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2019 College football thread - It's 2020, yo. Go to the new thread. (3 Viewers)

Are people thinking Ohio State totally outclasses LSU, or that it’s a coin flip and Ohio State has a tiny edge somewhere?

 
Doug B said:
Are people thinking Ohio State totally outclasses LSU, or that it’s a coin flip and Ohio State has a tiny edge somewhere?
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No way outclassing. Very slight edge due to OSU beating ranked opponents +25 and LSU beating ranked teams +12. 
 

But either way. 

 
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Doug B said:
Are people thinking Ohio State totally outclasses LSU, or that it’s a coin flip and Ohio State has a tiny edge somewhere?
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Tiny edge. They were #1 before these games. I can't see them having LSU hop them when they both won their conference titles. Doesn't matter how it was done. 

 
Insein said:
Tiny edge. They were #1 before these games. I can't see them having LSU hop them when they both won their conference titles. Doesn't matter how it was done. 
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They hopped LSU when both teams won :shrug:   Guess it won’t matter, though.

 
Mr.Pack said:
Cheap shot,  trying to injure Coan. I expect no less from an OSU player
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Just got a chance to watch it again. Coan was not only inbounds, but was cutting toward the end zone to actively try to score. Not sure there’s a real gripe here.

 
Doug B said:
They hopped LSU when both teams won :shrug:   Guess it won’t matter, though.
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It's what have you done for me lately. LSU hopped OSU when they beat Bama and OSU beat Maryland. Then OSU hopped LSU when they beat PSU and LSU beat Arkansas. 

 
Uruk-Hai said:
Wisconsin looks gassed
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This. Talent eventually takes over. Losing Orr really hurt because he can fight through blocks and go sideline to sideline

Mr.Pack said:
Yes, yes he does. Goes super uber conservative 
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No. No he doesn't. You're misguided per usual. He doesn't make adjustments well, I will give your that. He doesn't deviate from the initial game plan, I will concede. But he doesn't go Uber conservative. That's sports talk radio mentality

 
They’ll flip LSU and OSU. LSU was supremely dominant over #4 and OSU struggled with #8 for a while. I assume they were super close and that will be enough to flip them. 
 

LSU will kill Oklahoma and I think Clemson beats OSU. 
 

Finally, I’m fine with Norvell. Guy seems like a good coach. Hope he hires some ace recruiters. 

 
SHIZNITTTT said:
Once the NCAA realizes how much money would be generated by expanding the playoffs it will happen. 

Home games for the higher seeds would be wonderful. 

More college football played by the top 8 teams would be wonderful. 

Less top teams having players sitting out of the "Blue Bonnet Bowls" would be wonderful. 

Cons - none 
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The cons are we don’t have 8 really good teams. We barely have 4 most years. 

 
bigmarc27 said:
1. I agree that things are cyclical, however I think the playoff era and transfers has shifted the scales in favor of dominance.  
2. I think an appropriate reward for winning your conference is getting into the playoff. Also if you automate that part, you get even more OOC games. Bama can play Penn State instead of Alabama A&M because that easy W doesn’t matter anymore. 
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FSU had 15 straight seasons of finishing in the top-5 (never will be repeated, thanks for taking care of Bama, Auburn!) what does the playoff era have to do with dominance? Nebraska won 3 titles in the 90s when there was no playoff. The history of college football has been nothing but it going in cycles. 

 
What is your guess for CFP rankings?

1) LSU

2) Ohio State

3) Clemson

4) Oklahoma

5) Oregon

6) Georgia

7) Baylor 

8) Penn St

9) Florida

10) Utah

 
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WDIK2 said:
I think that's the point he's making.  If Oregon didn't play Auburn this year they would still very much be in the playoff conversation even with the loss to ASU.  If the conference champs got auto-bids, they're in.  Might see more big name OOC games if 2 losses (1 OOC and 1 conference) didn't pretty eliminate a team.  :shrug:      
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Sorry, my post was sarcastic. I agree that I want auto bids for Conference champs so that they do schedule better teams OOC. That's win, win to me. 

 
AAABatteries said:
Blowout of UGA >>>> one half of a blowout vs. Wisky
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True.  But OSU just became the first team since 1985 Auburn to beat three straight AP Top 10 teams, where OSU's starters had to play all 4 quarters. They were pretty banged up coming into the Wisky game, most notably Fields fighting an MCL injury, and it showed with him only gaining 1 yard rushing. The two teams LSU played before Georgia are a combined 9-15 and were blowouts allowing LSU to rest some of their starters later in the game. 

I wouldn't be shocked if LSU became #1, but I also wouldn't be shocked if OSU stayed #1.  OSU earned it with their last 3 game run. 

 
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College Football Playoff

by Brett McMurphy,   In my final projections in 2017, I correctly had 77 of the 78 bowl-bound schools. 

Championship – Jan. 13 (CFP semifinal winners)
Projection: LSU vs. Ohio State

Semifinals
Peach Bowl – Dec. 28 (CFP semifinal)
Projection: LSU (CFP No. 1) vs. Oklahoma (CFP No. 4)

Fiesta Bowl – Dec. 28 (CFP semifinal)
Projection: Ohio State (CFP No. 2) vs. Clemson (CFP No. 3)

New Year’s 6 Bowls

Rose Bowl – Jan. 1 (Big Ten vs. Pac-12)
Projection: Wisconsin vs. Oregon

Sugar Bowl – Jan. 1 (Big 12 vs. SEC)
Projection: Baylor vs. Georgia

Orange Bowl – Jan. 1 (ACC vs. SEC/Big Ten/Notre Dame)
Projection: Virginia vs. Florida

Cotton Bowl – Dec. 28 (at-large vs. Group of Five*)
Projection: Penn State vs. Memphis*

Other Bowls

Citrus Bowl – (Big Ten vs. SEC)
Projection: Michigan vs. Alabama

Outback Bowl – (Big Ten vs. SEC)
Projection: Minnesota vs. Auburn

Gator Bowl – (Big Ten/ACC vs. SEC)
Projection: Indiana vs. Tennessee

Holiday Bowl – (Big Ten vs. Pac-12)
Projection: Iowa vs. USC

Liberty Bowl – (Big 12 vs. SEC)
Projection: Kansas State vs. Navy**

Redbox Bowl – (Big Ten vs. Pac-12)
Projection: Illinois vs. Cal

Sun Bowl – (ACC vs. Pac-12)
Projection: Florida State vs. Arizona State

Military Bowl – (ACC vs. American)
Projection: North Carolina vs. Temple

Arizona Bowl – (Mountain West vs. Sun Belt)
Projection: San Diego State vs. Georgia State

Belk Bowl – (ACC vs. SEC)
Projection: Virginia Tech vs. Kentucky

Alamo Bowl – (Big 12 vs. Pac-12)
Projection: Texas vs. Utah

Camping World Bowl – (ACC vs. Big 12)
Projection: Notre Dame vs. Iowa State

Music City Bowl – (ACC/Big Ten vs. SEC)
Projection: Louisville vs. Mississippi State

Texas Bowl – (Big 12 vs. SEC)
Projection: Oklahoma State vs. Texas A&M

Pinstripe Bowl – (ACC vs. Big Ten)
Projection: Wake Forest vs. Michigan State

Independence Bowl – (ACC vs. SEC)
Projection: Miami vs. Southern Miss**

Cheez-It Bowl – (Big 12 vs. Pac-12)
Projection: Air Force** vs. Washington State

Quick Lane Bowl – (ACC vs. Big Ten)
Projection: Pitt vs. Western Michigan**

First Responder Bowl – (Big 12 vs. C-USA)
Projection: Eastern Michigan** vs. Louisiana Tech

Hawaii Bowl – (AAC vs. BYU)
Projection: Hawaii** vs. BYU

Mobile Bowl – (MAC vs. Sun Belt)
Projection: Miami (OH) vs. Louisiana

Armed Forces Bowl – (Big Ten vs. Mountain West)
Projection: Western Kentucky** vs. Utah State

Birmingham Bowl – (American vs. SEC)
Projection: Cincinnati vs. Boston College**

Idaho Potato Bowl – (MAC vs. Mountain West)
Projection: Ohio vs. Nevada

Bahamas Bowl – (C-USA vs. MAC)
Projection: Charlotte vs. Buffalo

Gasparilla Bowl – (American vs. C-USA)
Projection: UCF vs. Marshall

Frisco Bowl – (American vs. Open)
Projection: Tulane vs. Central Michigan**

Boca Raton Bowl – (American vs. MAC)
Projection: SMU vs. Florida Atlantic**

New Orleans Bowl – (C-USA vs. Sun Belt)
Projection: UAB vs. Appalachian State

Camellia Bowl – (MAC vs. Sun Belt)
Projection: Kent State vs. Arkansas State

Las Vegas Bowl – (Mountain West vs. Pac-12)
Projection: Boise State vs. Washington

Cure Bowl – (American vs. Sun Belt)
Projection: Liberty** vs. Georgia Southern

New Mexico Bowl – (C-USA vs. Mountain West)
Projection: FIU vs. Wyoming

*-The highest rated champion from the Group of Five conferences (American, Conference USA, Mid-American, Mountain West and Sun Belt) will be selected to play in the Cotton Bowl.

**-Replaces team from league that can’t fill bowl.

 
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Politician Spock said:
True.  But OSU just became the first team since 1985 Auburn to beat three straight AP Top 10 teams, where OSU's starters had to play all 4 quarters. They were pretty banged up coming into the Wisky game, most notably Fields fighting an MCL injury, and it showed with him only gaining 1 yard rushing. The two teams LSU played before Georgia are a combined 9-15 and were blowouts allowing LSU to rest some of their starters later in the game. 

I wouldn't be shocked if LSU became #1, but I also wouldn't be shocked if OSU stayed #1.  OSU earned it with their last 3 game run. 
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I have no rooting interest at all but for me, you can’t give OSU “credit” for beating Michigan while LSU beats Arkansas and not do the same for LSU this week.  In addition, I think LSU’s body of work is more impressive than OSU - although it’s close.

 
AAABatteries said:
I have no rooting interest at all but for me, you can’t give OSU “credit” for beating Michigan while LSU beats Arkansas and not do the same for LSU this week.  In addition, I think LSU’s body of work is more impressive than OSU - although it’s close.
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FWIW, during the ACC title game last night they showed Cesaers had listed hypothetical lines...

Clemson -4.5 vs LSU

Ckemson -1.5 vs OSU

Personally, I think I’d rather take my chances vs OSU, but either would be fun. 

 
AAABatteries said:
I have no rooting interest at all but for me, you can’t give OSU “credit” for beating Michigan while LSU beats Arkansas and not do the same for LSU this week.  In addition, I think LSU’s body of work is more impressive than OSU - although it’s close.
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OSU passed LSU for beating Penn State while LSU played Arkansas. So I understand that you are saying LSU should pass OSU for beating Georgia while OSU played Wisconsin.

What you are leaving out is the week that occurred in the middle, where OSU thumped a 9 win MIchigan team by 29 in Michigan Stadium, while LSU played a 5 loss Texas A&M team. This did not result in OSU passing LSU, because OSU had already passed LSU. If anything, it casued LSU to lose ground on OSU. 

LSU's impressive win against Georgia has to trump two weeks of OSU's work, as LSU didn't gain any ground on OSU in the middle week, and actually probably lost some.

Again, I would not be shocked if LSU became #1, but it's not a matter of looking at their 11th games and their 13th games. Their 12th games matter too.  

 
bigmarc27 said:
FWIW, during the ACC title game last night they showed Cesaers had listed hypothetical lines...

Clemson -4.5 vs LSU

Ckemson -1.5 vs OSU

Personally, I think I’d rather take my chances vs OSU, but either would be fun. 
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Is that right? Clemson favored against either?

 
That Clemson-LSU line would get bet down quick. The public likely would never see -4.5. I think it would end Clemson -1. 

 
SHIZNITTTT said:
New Year’s 6 Bowls

Rose Bowl – Jan. 1 (Big Ten vs. Pac-12)
Projection: Wisconsin vs. Oregon

Sugar Bowl – Jan. 1 (Big 12 vs. SEC)
Projection: Baylor vs. Georgia

Orange Bowl – Jan. 1 (ACC vs. SEC/Big Ten/Notre Dame)
Projection: Virginia vs. Florida

Cotton Bowl – Dec. 28 (at-large vs. Group of Five*)
Projection: Penn State vs. Memphis*
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:yawn:

 
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