2019 NBA Playoffs Thread: Toronto Raptors win NBA title #1.33 (1 Viewer)

[TobiasFunke]

For all the complaining about the end of the game and the criticism of the time-out and the refs taking forever (and it did suck a lot of the fun out of the ending) the Warriors absolutely had a chance to win at that point, so they had to make sure they got it right.  Raptors/Kawhi were up 1 and had three free throws (tech plus two on the inbounds play)- if they had missed any of them and then made the last one the Warriors could have thrown an inbounds pass down the floor and gotten a catch-and-shoot to tie or win the game. 0.9 is plenty of time.

On this play LeBron caught a long Kevin Love inbounds pass off a made FT to make it a 3 point game, took a dribble and two steps back to get behind the arc, and still only took about a second to get the shot off.

Another possibility before the last two FTs- Raptors can't find an open man on the post-tech inbounds and instead of just throwing it off someone's leg to kill the clock they panic and commit a 5 second or traveling violation, turning the ball over and giving the Warriors the ball on the side and a chance to tie or win on a catch-and-shoot. I can't think of a recent NBA example of this but it happened in a big college game last season.  This game was actually really similar, because the team with the 2 point lead got possession on a tech call (lane violation I think) with 0.9 on the clock and simply had to inbound safely to get the win. 

Basically, until the margin is 4+ and there's not enough time for two shots there's always a chance in basketball.  #### happens.

 

[GROOT]

Torn ACL for Klay. Damn.

I wonder if going back in the game made it worse

 

[Juxtatarot]

With all the free agency possibilities and the Durant and Thompson injuries, next year seems to be the most open for new contenders since, at least, 2010.  I have absolutely no idea who will be the top three or four teams.

 

[gianmarco]

I wonder if going back in the game made it worse

No. Once it's torn, that's it. 

Potentially, if his knee gives way, he could injure something else, but that didn't seem the case at all.

 

[GROOT]

No. Once it's torn, that's it. 

Potentially, if his knee gives way, he could injure something else, but that didn't seem the case at all.

I was thinkiing a partial tear becoming a bigger tear 

 

[gianmarco]

I was thinkiing a partial tear becoming a bigger tear 

Walking on it wouldn't affect it if the knee is stable (which his looked to be).  If his knee was unstable, then yes.  People can walk with partial tears and even with complete tears.  You just can't cut on it.  If he had tried to play on it, that would be a different story, but just taking free throws and getting subbed out shouldn't have changed anything. 

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

3, 2, 1 until Drake lifts his NBA LOB trophy on stage with the rest of his teammates 

 

[Doug B]

I’d vote for Mavericks and Pelicans as most overrated on that list. 

Wish I could say otherwise, but "yeah" on the Pelicans.

 

[Doug B]

Three in the cap era, and against James, is pretty good. They were brutally unlucky during this series, but if Shump hits that shot in G1, the Cavs go up 1-0, and Kyrie doesn't get hurt in OT, that series easily could've gone the other way. If there was no cap spike off GS losing to Cleveland, they couldn't have made Durant work.

I never, ever can understand NBA finances -- what means the bolded? What did the outcome of a given championship series have to do with a "cap spike"? No doubting, just totally ignorant on this stuff.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

I was thinkiing a partial tear becoming a bigger tear 

Honestly--I think there is a chance that this was the case.  With that said--I don't think him coming back and shooting free throws made it worse. However--watching the game on live TV--the reporter that was close to the Warrior locker room was saying that Klay was running and jumping back there to try to lobby his way back into the game.  I would not be surprised at all if his injury went from being a partial tear to a full tear during that process--which occured right with the Warriors medical staff right there.   Regardless--I wish him and KD both good and successful recoveries. I also want to congratulate any Raptors fans in this forum for a great season.  

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Free agent landscape has really changed. 

 

[Long Ball Larry]

man, the takes were flying in here last night

 

[Juxtatarot]

I never, ever can understand NBA finances -- what means the bolded? What did the outcome of a given championship series have to do with a "cap spike"? No doubting, just totally ignorant on this stuff.

It didn't.  Just a coincidence.  Salary cap is based on percentage of revenue and there was a spike in revenue due to a big TV deal.  That spiked the cap allowing for teams to have more cap space than a typical, flatter year.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

With all the free agency possibilities and the Durant and Thompson injuries, next year seems to be the most open for new contenders since, at least, 2010.  I have absolutely no idea who will be the top three or four teams.

first thing i thought about this morning was how the balance of power in the league should be a lot different next year, and what will the Rockets do this offseason in response, as well as whether this could mean that Denver can actually get to a finals. 

 

[Da Guru]

Feel bad for Dwayne Casey.  wins coach of the year and gets fired. Raptors win NBA title and Casey is stuck with the Pistons trying to show Andre Drummond how to play basketball

 

[FreeBaGeL]

No way with less than a second left that accidental TO they didn’t have ever turns into a Win but besides that yeah real smart play. 

It was closer than people thought.  On that last Toronto inbounds to Kawhi if he threw that a foot further and it went over Kawhi's head and out of bounds without being touched then GS would have been inbounding the ball at mid-court with 0.9 left.

 

[TobiasFunke]

It was closer than people thought.  On that last Toronto inbounds to Kawhi if he threw that a foot further and it went over Kawhi's head and out of bounds without being touched then GS would have been inbounding the ball at mid-court with 0.9 left.

 

[jhib]

Kyle and Kawhi really do seem in love here

https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/1139407212013506561

EDT:  Watching this again, they're acting like they've been drinking all day for 12 hours and are hammered.

Kawhi was limping and really stiff coming off the podium. Maybe he has been hurt last two games?

In the video above he (I think) said that he was limping around because he didn't have to play any more games.  Sounds like he was hiding it as best he could earlier in the series.

 

[jhib]

Kawhi is great to watch and horrible to listen to.  U could stare at tree and get more excited.

I don't know about getting excited, but the fact that he's a different cat makes him more interesting to listen to, IMO.

 

[Capella]

man, the takes were flying in here last night

It’s the best 

 

[Bull Dozier]

Honestly--I think there is a chance that this was the case.  With that said--I don't think him coming back and shooting free throws made it worse. However--watching the game on live TV--the reporter that was close to the Warrior locker room was saying that Klay was running and jumping back there to try to lobby his way back into the game.  I would not be surprised at all if his injury went from being a partial tear to a full tear during that process--which occured right with the Warriors medical staff right there.   Regardless--I wish him and KD both good and successful recoveries. I also want to congratulate any Raptors fans in this forum for a great season.  

Yeah, I found it interesting she makes the report that Klay is jumping around trying to prove he is ok to go back in.  They cut back to the game.  And 15 seconds later they cut back to Doris with the report that Klay is out and not coming back.  Sure sounded in real time like Klay did something to hurt himself while trying to show he was ok.  But in reality, it could have just been timing of information getting to her.

 

[dickey moe]

It's a housewarming gift for Kawhi

That might be the most Canadian thing ever.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Feel bad for Dwayne Casey.  wins coach of the year and gets fired. Raptors win NBA title and Casey is stuck with the Pistons trying to show Andre Drummond how to play basketball

better for him than getting embarrassed in the playoffs again and making less money overall.  He wasn't good enough, but was able to somehow convince the other dummy ed stefanski to give him a ton of dough.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

these takes about derozan and casey missing out on the success are strange.  the only reason that this championship happened was because Masai had the vision to realize that what he had was good, but not good enough, and figured out how to significantly upgrade both.

 

[wikkidpissah]

My karma scorecard is a mess....

*Oooo, Canada!*

 

[Da Guru]

better for him than getting embarrassed in the playoffs again and making less money overall.  He wasn't good enough, but was able to somehow convince the other dummy ed stefanski to give him a ton of dough.

I think Leonard would have made him a little better. Without Leonard it would have been more of the same no matter who was coaching.

 

[GoBirds]

My karma scorecard is a mess....

*Oooo, Canada!*

Pulling for did leave me feeling a little dirty. Then I remembered it was the Warriors. 

 

[thecatch]

first thing i thought about this morning was how the balance of power in the league should be a lot different next year, and what will the Rockets do this offseason in response, as well as whether this could mean that Denver can actually get to a finals. 

This could ripple all the way down the Western Conference. Can you bet on a team not making the playoffs next year? GS will be running out Curry, Green, Iguodola, Evans, Jones, and maybe Cook, Looney, and Bell (last three are FAs) for most if not all of the year. They’ll have a late first round pick and the MLE to add to that group.  I think leaning on Curry and Green to carry them to 50ish wins after the workload they’ve had the last 5 years is asking an awful lot. 

 

[Alex P Keaton]

first thing i thought about this morning was how the balance of power in the league should be a lot different next year, and what will the Rockets do this offseason in response, as well as whether this could mean that Denver can actually get to a finals. 

Next season could be really fun to watch.   The path to a title is wide open now.

 

[Don't Noonan]

Portland not getting enough love as usual in preseason odds

 

[tommyboy]

I don't know about getting excited, but the fact that he's a different cat makes him more interesting to listen to, IMO.

i would prefer if he'd get a Stephen Hawking rig and speak through a computer.    It would improve his inflection and delivery

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Portland not getting enough love as usual in preseason odds

Maybe if they swap Curry brothers they will have a good shot

 

[The Big Donkey]

NBA Championships

Jeremy Lin: 1

Carmelo Anthony: 0

 

[Don't Noonan]

Maybe if they swap Curry brothers they will have a good shot

That would help!

 

[SWC]

were there a bunch of posts deleted in here i am sad i did not have a computer to enjoy all of the original hottakery take that to the bank bromigos

 

[Deamon]

This could ripple all the way down the Western Conference. Can you bet on a team not making the playoffs next year? GS will be running out Curry, Green, Iguodola, Evans, Jones, and maybe Cook, Looney, and Bell (last three are FAs) for most if not all of the year. They’ll have a late first round pick and the MLE to add to that group.  I think leaning on Curry and Green to carry them to 50ish wins after the workload they’ve had the last 5 years is asking an awful lot. 

I think that team can still make the playoffs.  Especially if Klay is there for even 15 games.  They'd be sitting around a 7-ish seed and playoffs would be very exciting if KD returned for them.  Even without KD they'll be in the mix to win the western playoffs but don't think they'd make the finals. 

Get ready guys, next year is going to be the most wide open year we've seen in a very long time. 

 

[Capella]

Wonder where Boogie goes. He looked good. 

 

[Capella]

Man the off-season is so good. I’ll start that thread Monday so that everybody has time to get their takes in here. 

 

[SWC]

did you guys know that damarcus booger cousins is only 28 years old and he looks like a geezer now with his achiles well kevin der spatula durantula is on the other hand 30 years old so will he look even older and slower when he comes back from his injury we will never know but i sure wish we could have answers to these types of riddles take that to the bank brohans 

 

[tjnc09]

Ujiri being investigated for pushing/striking a cop trying to enter the floor.  

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I'm really proud of Drake earning his first ring.

1st? Two w Miami, three with GS, one with Cle, one with Toronto. Drake is the Robert Horry of pedo r&b superfans.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Wonder where Boogie goes. He looked good. 

He's going to be a liability against high PNR for the rest of his career.

 

[SWC]

i hope they use der spatula durantulas achiles to repair clay thompsons knee and create a superhuman basketball cyborg who can dunk from the three point line take that to the bank bromigos 

 

[tjnc09]

I think that team can still make the playoffs.  Especially if Klay is there for even 15 games.  They'd be sitting around a 7-ish seed and playoffs would be very exciting if KD returned for them.  Even without KD they'll be in the mix to win the western playoffs but don't think they'd make the finals. 

Get ready guys, next year is going to be the most wide open year we've seen in a very long time. 

I don't know about having Durant and Thompson back for the postseason.  Their organization is going to be scrutinized for every health related decision they make next year.  

They really should just punt next season.  Hope to get 1-2 more rings out of them in 21/22

 

[Juxtatarot]

I don't know about having Durant and Thompson back for the postseason.  Their organization is going to be scrutinized for every health related decision they make next year.  

They really should just punt next season.  Hope to get 1-2 more rings out of them in 21/22

100% agree.

 

[thecatch]

I think that team can still make the playoffs.  Especially if Klay is there for even 15 games.  They'd be sitting around a 7-ish seed and playoffs would be very exciting if KD returned for them.  Even without KD they'll be in the mix to win the western playoffs but don't think they'd make the finals. 

Get ready guys, next year is going to be the most wide open year we've seen in a very long time. 

Is that Warriors team sans Klay even as good as like the Lakers or full strength Pelicans last year?  Maybe I’m underestimating Curry, but he’ll have zero support for the bulk of next season. 

 

[thecatch]

He's going to be a liability against high PNR for the rest of his career.

historically he has been able to balance that out by being a dominant post scorer. This would have been a different series if he had been capable of really punishing guys like Ibaka and Siakam in the post like he used to be able to do. If he can get back to that point, I think he can have value notwithstanding the defensive shortcomings. 

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Ujiri being investigated for pushing/striking a cop trying to enter the floor.  

I read he shoved the cop twice, should be a year long ban coming

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

He's going to be a liability against high PNR for the rest of his career.

This.

And he was getting run off the court BEFORE his achilles injury in New Orleans. His declining defense finally coming to the forefront. He's gotten incredibly lazy on that end. New Orleans offered him 2/40 at the end of last year......and he declined. Pelicans took the offer off the table thereafter. Presumably because they showed to be a much better uptempo team without him....

 

[Capella]

He's going to be a liability against high PNR for the rest of his career.

So Portland?