Zegras11
Footballguy
NFL Greatest Defensive Linemen Rankings
Having already done the offensive linemen, I was able to use the similar process for the category on this one.
Criteria:
I randomly write down the players names. I have no clue as to the order they were drafted.
*Awards - 12 max. 2 pts for each Player Of the Year (POY), NFL100, League MVP, 1st Team All decade. 1 pt fpr 2nd Team All Decade.
*All Pro Years (AP) - 12 max. Relative ranking of all involved with #1 getting 12 pts.
*Pro Bowl years (PB) - 5 max. Same as above with a max of 5 pts. 40% of AP that I used before.
*Approximate Value (weighted) - 10 pt max. This is a career total number done by FBref.com. Relatively ranked...
*Approximate Value (AV10) #of 10+ seasons - 10pt max. FBref.com assigns a Relative Value to all NFL players each year. High is around 20. A 10 or higher is a solid year. This is the relative rank of the number of AV10 seasons a player had in his career. Rewards consistent solid effort over a few great years.
*Internet Ranking Lists - 3pts max each. Found three solid lists. Used only the Top16 from each list. Relatively ranked.
Possible Players Missing - Buck Buchanon, Howie Long
1 PT - Joe Klecko. 11.75 pts. Must have been our token Jets fan that picked this one. I'm too embarrassed to look to see who drafted him. His six PB(4) and AP(2) are barely more than half of anyone else on the list. I think his only award was the trophy for finishing 6th place in 8th Grade Pop Warner. By far the lowest Value scores on the list also.
2 PTS - Chris Doleman. 22.74 pts. Only two 1990 2nd Teams and two PB hurt Doleman. He was in the middle of a cluster of eight players in AV scores, but wasn't on any of the three Net Lists.
3 PTS - Julius Peppers. 28.76 pts. 9 PB and only 3 AP. On only 1 of 3 Net Lists. Two 1st teams and a 2nd. Mostly at the bottom in many cats with the group of 8-9 that are pretty similar. Lack of AP was the major thing here.
4 PTS - Warren Sapp. 30.64 pts. 7PB and 4 AP to barely edge Peppers. Had a POY that Peppers did not, which helped him overcome being a fraction under Peppers on AV scores. Two 1st and one 2nd team also.
5 PTS - Aaron Donald. 30.79 pts. Has two POY awards. 6PB and 5 AP in six seasons. His AV scores are ok with only six years. He was 6th on one of the Net lists which pushed him ahead of Sapp, which is the right call.
6 PTS - JJ Watt. 31.09 pts. Has three POY awards. Injuries over the years have hurt for sure. 5 PB and 5 AP. AP weighted was higher than Donald's to create the edge here. Was 7th on one net list. These last three are so close, but I like the order of them.
7 PTS - Michael Strahan. 32.26 pts. Has a POY, 1st and 2nd team. 7PB and 4 AP. AP Weighted was 5th at 121. (Watt 98). Nine AV10+ seasons was 4th on the list. Was on two Net lists and 9th and 10th.
8 PTS - John Randle. 32.73 pts. Two 1st teams and first to have a NFL100. 7PB and 6AP to edge Strahan. Was on all three Net lists. The extra AP's were just enough to have him slide past Strahan.
9 PTS - Deacon Jones. 34.87 pts. 8PB and 5AP. Had 3rd lowest AVWeighted score and only five AP10+ seasons. Historians and Net Lists love him though. All in the Top 6 despite numbers that just don't match the rest.
10 PTS - Merlin Olsen. 38.50 pts. 14 PB and 5 AP. Had eight AV10+ seasons. Also in the Top 6 of the three Net lists.
11 PTS - Gino Marchetti. 39.53 pts. 11 PB and 7 AP in 57 less games than Jonathan Garvey. He had eight AV10+ seasons also, Was #7 on each of the Net lists, but did more than Merlin did.
12 PTS - Bob Lilly. 39.55 pts. Had 11PB and 7 AP also. His AV scores were just slightly higher than Gino's Had one more 1st team than Gino. This one was a close one!
13 PTS - Mean Joe Greene. 40.54 pts. Had two POY. 10PB and 4AP. Was 4th or 5th on the each of the Net lists. The two POY to Lilly's none of that type pushed him a point ahead of Lilly.
14 PTS - Alan Page. 44.68 pts. 9PB and 6AP. AV Wighted of 135 of 3rd highest. His 10 AV10+ seasons was also 3rd. 5th/3rd/5th on the Net lists.
The Top TWO players were clearly 1/2 in this Category.
15 PTS - Bruce Smith. 59.36 pts. 15 pts better than Page!! Had the most games played at 279. 11PB and 8AP(1stT). had 147 AV career points, clearly #2 here.Tied for the high in AV10+ seasons with 13. That means he was a Top 10 NFL player 13 times. That's insane. Was 2nd/2nd/1st on the three net lists.
16 PTS - Reggie White. 60.02 pts. It's amazing these two were so, so close, despite being so, so far ahead of the rest of the field. 13PB(1st) and 8AP(1stT) edged Smith a tad. His 157 Career AV is one point behind all-time NFL defensive leader and 6th for any player. Had 13 AV10+ seasons also like Smith. Was 1st/1st/2nd on the three Net lists.
Having already done the offensive linemen, I was able to use the similar process for the category on this one.
Criteria:
I randomly write down the players names. I have no clue as to the order they were drafted.
*Awards - 12 max. 2 pts for each Player Of the Year (POY), NFL100, League MVP, 1st Team All decade. 1 pt fpr 2nd Team All Decade.
*All Pro Years (AP) - 12 max. Relative ranking of all involved with #1 getting 12 pts.
*Pro Bowl years (PB) - 5 max. Same as above with a max of 5 pts. 40% of AP that I used before.
*Approximate Value (weighted) - 10 pt max. This is a career total number done by FBref.com. Relatively ranked...
*Approximate Value (AV10) #of 10+ seasons - 10pt max. FBref.com assigns a Relative Value to all NFL players each year. High is around 20. A 10 or higher is a solid year. This is the relative rank of the number of AV10 seasons a player had in his career. Rewards consistent solid effort over a few great years.
*Internet Ranking Lists - 3pts max each. Found three solid lists. Used only the Top16 from each list. Relatively ranked.
Possible Players Missing - Buck Buchanon, Howie Long
1 PT - Joe Klecko. 11.75 pts. Must have been our token Jets fan that picked this one. I'm too embarrassed to look to see who drafted him. His six PB(4) and AP(2) are barely more than half of anyone else on the list. I think his only award was the trophy for finishing 6th place in 8th Grade Pop Warner. By far the lowest Value scores on the list also.
2 PTS - Chris Doleman. 22.74 pts. Only two 1990 2nd Teams and two PB hurt Doleman. He was in the middle of a cluster of eight players in AV scores, but wasn't on any of the three Net Lists.
3 PTS - Julius Peppers. 28.76 pts. 9 PB and only 3 AP. On only 1 of 3 Net Lists. Two 1st teams and a 2nd. Mostly at the bottom in many cats with the group of 8-9 that are pretty similar. Lack of AP was the major thing here.
4 PTS - Warren Sapp. 30.64 pts. 7PB and 4 AP to barely edge Peppers. Had a POY that Peppers did not, which helped him overcome being a fraction under Peppers on AV scores. Two 1st and one 2nd team also.
5 PTS - Aaron Donald. 30.79 pts. Has two POY awards. 6PB and 5 AP in six seasons. His AV scores are ok with only six years. He was 6th on one of the Net lists which pushed him ahead of Sapp, which is the right call.
6 PTS - JJ Watt. 31.09 pts. Has three POY awards. Injuries over the years have hurt for sure. 5 PB and 5 AP. AP weighted was higher than Donald's to create the edge here. Was 7th on one net list. These last three are so close, but I like the order of them.
7 PTS - Michael Strahan. 32.26 pts. Has a POY, 1st and 2nd team. 7PB and 4 AP. AP Weighted was 5th at 121. (Watt 98). Nine AV10+ seasons was 4th on the list. Was on two Net lists and 9th and 10th.
8 PTS - John Randle. 32.73 pts. Two 1st teams and first to have a NFL100. 7PB and 6AP to edge Strahan. Was on all three Net lists. The extra AP's were just enough to have him slide past Strahan.
9 PTS - Deacon Jones. 34.87 pts. 8PB and 5AP. Had 3rd lowest AVWeighted score and only five AP10+ seasons. Historians and Net Lists love him though. All in the Top 6 despite numbers that just don't match the rest.
10 PTS - Merlin Olsen. 38.50 pts. 14 PB and 5 AP. Had eight AV10+ seasons. Also in the Top 6 of the three Net lists.
11 PTS - Gino Marchetti. 39.53 pts. 11 PB and 7 AP in 57 less games than Jonathan Garvey. He had eight AV10+ seasons also, Was #7 on each of the Net lists, but did more than Merlin did.
12 PTS - Bob Lilly. 39.55 pts. Had 11PB and 7 AP also. His AV scores were just slightly higher than Gino's Had one more 1st team than Gino. This one was a close one!
13 PTS - Mean Joe Greene. 40.54 pts. Had two POY. 10PB and 4AP. Was 4th or 5th on the each of the Net lists. The two POY to Lilly's none of that type pushed him a point ahead of Lilly.
14 PTS - Alan Page. 44.68 pts. 9PB and 6AP. AV Wighted of 135 of 3rd highest. His 10 AV10+ seasons was also 3rd. 5th/3rd/5th on the Net lists.
The Top TWO players were clearly 1/2 in this Category.
15 PTS - Bruce Smith. 59.36 pts. 15 pts better than Page!! Had the most games played at 279. 11PB and 8AP(1stT). had 147 AV career points, clearly #2 here.Tied for the high in AV10+ seasons with 13. That means he was a Top 10 NFL player 13 times. That's insane. Was 2nd/2nd/1st on the three net lists.
16 PTS - Reggie White. 60.02 pts. It's amazing these two were so, so close, despite being so, so far ahead of the rest of the field. 13PB(1st) and 8AP(1stT) edged Smith a tad. His 157 Career AV is one point behind all-time NFL defensive leader and 6th for any player. Had 13 AV10+ seasons also like Smith. Was 1st/1st/2nd on the three Net lists.