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Darren Dreger@DarrenDreger

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15m

Bruins and Taylor Hall are working on the final details of his agreement, including no-trade coverage. When finalized and signed, Hall stays in Boston for 4 years at $6 mil per season.

 
CapFriendly@CapFriendly

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1m

TRADE:
To Calgary #Flames: F Tyler Pitlick
To Seattle #Kraken: 2022 4th RD pick (CGY)

 
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Frank Seravalli@frank_seravalli

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4m

Barclay Goodrow's deal with #NYR is 6 years, $21.85 million. Official AAV is $3.642 million.

 
Getzlaf15 said:
Darren Dreger@DarrenDreger

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15m

Bruins and Taylor Hall are working on the final details of his agreement, including no-trade coverage. When finalized and signed, Hall stays in Boston for 4 years at $6 mil per season.
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and a NTC?  man, hall has his license to loaf.  

 
Getzlaf15 said:
CapFriendly@CapFriendly

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19s

TRADE
To Arizona #Coyotes D Shayne Gostisbehere 2022 2nd round pick 2022 7th round pick (STL)
To Philadelphia #Flyers No Return
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Yikes, can't believe Flyers had to attach a 2nd round pick to give up Ghost like that, for literally nothing in return. 2016 Calder cup runner up, 65 points 4 years ago, and now this......

 
Fletcher basically says that Seattle's price to take on Gostisbehere was much higher than the one he paid to Arizona today.
 

Ron Francis really galaxy brained this whole thing. 

 
so, the godrow contract pays him 5.1 year 3 and 5 year 4.  last 2 years total 5mm.  if they buy him out after 4, he would be owed 2/3 amortized over 4 years, or about 837m for 4.

 
AcerFC said:
Explain this for those of us who don’t get numbers
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i am no eggspurt and i think may be wrong.  i actually think the NHL uses AAV for buyout purposes.  so let's rethink.

his annual base is 3,642m.  AAV.  players over 26 that are bought out get 2/3 the remaining AAV left on deal.  you multiply remaining total AAV by 2/3 for buyout total.  then you spread that amount over the remaining years left on contract times 2.

actually, if he is bought out after year 4, it would be about 7.3 x .67 = 4,856m divided by 4 (2yrs left x 2 multiplier) = 4 years of dead money at about 1.2mm per.

 
It also has the benefit of making the player more attractive in a trade down the road with a team that isn't competing because the high AAV helps with reaching the cap floor but the actual amount of cash you're laying out is much less. 

 
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Dammit Chuck!

@AntSanPhilly: The @NHLFlyers are acquiring Rasmus Ristolainen from Buffalo. Robert Hagg going back to the Sabres plus more.

 
@JShannonhl: Sounds like Rasmus Ristolainen is going to Philadelphia in a package deal that includes the Sabres getting the 13th pick in the draft.

 
@avappleyard: So....

Ghost+Patrick+Myers+Hagg+1st+2nd+7th

for

Ellis, Ristolainen, -$2.25 million cap space

@NHLFlyers swinging... but that is a lot of assets to give up and not get back a #1 defenseman. #Flyers

 
JaxBill said:
@JShannonhl: Sounds like Rasmus Ristolainen is going to Philadelphia in a package deal that includes the Sabres getting the 13th pick in the draft.
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yeah that seems like a little bit of an overpay, but they needed to grab somebody to pair with Sanheim. After yesterday having to give up an a 2nd rounder just to trade away Ghost it is just a strange land with the NHL off-season here. 
 

Not sure what else Fletcher is looking to do, but i am guessing he isn't done

 
Capella said:
Fletcher basically says that Seattle's price to take on Gostisbehere was much higher than the one he paid to Arizona today.
 

Ron Francis really galaxy brained this whole thing. 
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yeah the rumors were teams were asking for Ghost plus this year's 1st or Ghost and Cam York. that is just pretty nutty. 

 
TRADE
To Philadelphia #Flyers D Rasmus Ristolainen
To Buffalo #Sabres D Robert Hägg 2021 1st round pick (PHI - #14 overall [13th pick when accounting for the forfeited ARI pick]) 2023 2nd round pick

 
modogg said:
yeah that seems like a little bit of an overpay, but they needed to grab somebody to pair with Sanheim. After yesterday having to give up an a 2nd rounder just to trade away Ghost it is just a strange land with the NHL off-season here. 
 

Not sure what else Fletcher is looking to do, but i am guessing he isn't done
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he can't be done. They have 10 mil in cap space and have to re-sign RFA Hart & Sanheim plus sign a backup goalie. That would get them to 19 on the roster.

@CapFriendly: Philadelphia #Flyers update after acquiring Rasmus Ristolainen

Projected cap hit: $71.4M
Projected cap space: $10.1M

Roster size: 16 (12F - 4D - 0G)

RFAs include:
D Sanheim
G Hart

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/flyers?twitter_img=1627078932

 
JaxBill said:
he can't be done. They have 10 mil in cap space and have to re-sign RFA Hart & Sanheim plus sign a backup goalie. That would get them to 19 on the roster.

@CapFriendly: Philadelphia #Flyers update after acquiring Rasmus Ristolainen

Projected cap hit: $71.4M
Projected cap space: $10.1M

Roster size: 16 (12F - 4D - 0G)

RFAs include:
D Sanheim
G Hart

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/flyers?twitter_img=1627078932
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yup. intrigued to see what Hart's contract will look like compared to the rest of the league. Have to think there is a big priority on signing him and Sanheim.  

 
Darren Dreger@DarrenDreger

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7m

Lots of attention being paid to NYR, Minny, Anaheim, La as potential fits for Jack Eichel. Some rumblings Montreal could be in the mix for the star center.

 
Rangers have to do something here prior to the draft.  They need to move Buchnevich, otherwise they are going to get nothing for him.  If they are able to parlay that into an offer for Eichel, we shall see, but I have to believe they would have been granted access to his medical records already if they were forming a legit offer which Buffalo would have considered.

 
I agree.  I think he's played a prime role in the Sabres not being good for a long time.   The Sabres got a nice haul for him IMO.


 

Did the Flyers pay too much?

Charlie O'Connor, Flyers beat writer: In short — yes, they did.

Ignore Hägg's inclusion in the trade — he's a throw-in included to clear cap space who would have been redundant with Ristolainen anyway. But giving up prime assets for a defenseman in Ristolainen who has struggled mightily in top-pair usage his entire career is a major, major risk on the part of Chuck Fletcher and the Flyers.

To be blunt, he's been an advanced metrics disaster. It's certainly possible that given a lesser role, Ristolainen can succeed. But to pay first- and second-round picks to take that risk? That's a massive cost, especially given Ristolainen's not insignificant cap hit ($5.4 million) and the fact that he's signed through only the 2021-22 season.

 
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Elliotte Friedman@FriedgeHNIC

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3m

Buchnevich to STL for Blais and a 2nd in 2022
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Well, it's better than nothing I suppose.  Unfortunate situation for Buchnevich with the Rangers as he's decent enough, but just wasn't affordable and Rangers have better answers in the pipeline.

 
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JaxBill said:
@BroadStHockey: He's hoping stability and a good partner will make him... good? Sure Chuck.
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Kevin @ntrider825

·Jul 17

Since 2013, 68 defenseman have played at least 8,000 5v5 minutes. Where Rasmus Ristolainen ranks among them in:
Goals-For %: 68th
Shots-For%: 68th
Corsi-For%: 68th
Fenwick-For%: 68th
Goals-For/60: 68th
Goals-Against/60: 65th
xGF/60: 68th
xGA/60: 55th
Expected Goals-For%: 68th
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https://theathletic.com/2725890/2021/07/23/nhl-trade-grades-flyers-overpay-for-rasmus-ristolainen-and-sabres-finally-get-a-big-win/
 

Dom Luszczyszyn: Let’s start positively: Finally, a win for Buffalo. A MASSIVE win for Buffalo. The common thread throughout the Sabres’ struggles to get out of the basement over the last decade has been Ristolainen. The difference between every player’s numbers with him on the ice and on the bench is absolutely staggering and that’s perfectly encapsulated by the team’s franchise player, Jack Eichel (who’s also on the way out). Over the last three seasons, Eichel has spent nearly 1,000 minutes with Ristolainen and in that time has a 46 percent goal rate. It’s 55 percent without him. By expected goals RAPM (a regressed version of expected goals that takes into account teammates and competition) Ristolainen’s effect is the 22nd worst among all defenders and the third-worst by goals. On a consistently bad Sabres team, Ristolainen has always been the anchor dragging everyone down.

Sabres grade: A-plus
Flyers grade: F-minus

Sean Gentille: Ristolainen is a replacement-level defensemen with big minutes and bad across-the-board numbers who makes $5.4 million a year. That’s tough to carry, period. When you throw in the 14th pick and another second-rounder, it’s … hoo boy. Honestly, the best way I can sum up the deal: When I saw it first reported, I thought it was fake.

As for the Sabres, if this isn’t a 100-percenter, I’m not sure what is. To turn a big-money, bad-results guy on an expiring deal into those two picks? Wizardry.

Sabres grade: A-plus
Flyers grade: J
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CapFriendly Depth Charts@CF_DepthCharts

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1h

In summary, the #Flyers have now traded away
Shayne Gostisbehere, Robert Hagg, one first round pick, two 2nd round picks and a 7th round pick
for Rasmus Ristolainen.

 
Elliotte Friedman@FriedgeHNIC

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4m

Credit to

@Gambo987

who was first to report on OEL/Garland, but Beagle, Eriksson, Roussel and 9th overall pick are involved.

 
the buchnevich deal was inevitable, especially with kakko, lafreniere and kravtsov around.  blais seems a serviceable 3rd liner with a decent enough contract.  in the nhl you can’t pay them all and the nyr need money for fox and igor and likely mika and maybe the eichel tower.  

 
Pierre LeBrun@PierreVLeBrun

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2m

9h overall pick plus Eriksson, Roussel and Beagle all going to Arizona I’m the proposed deal, sources confirm. Holy mama

 
Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli

#Canucks essentially traded one more year of pain ($12 mil in cap hits between Eriksson, Beagle + Roussel) in exchange for a better team next season with Garland and OEL. But potential long-term cap consequences with OEL at $8.25 million through 2026-27.
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