Gottabesweet
Footballguy
knock on wood.
On a side note with McCoy likely out until 11/8 Miami game, when do you think we see Sammy at the earliest/latest.
Is he likely out until the bye as well? Very curious on that calf.
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On a side note with McCoy likely out until 11/8 Miami game, when do you think we see Sammy at the earliest/latest.
Is he likely out until the bye as well? Very curious on that calf.
Resident A
Footballguy
I was under the impression that Watkins was a just 1 week thing. He was sorely missed, moreso than McCoy IMO.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Updated today from Dr.Bramel
Sammy Watkins remains in the rehab and recovery phase with a calf injury. We've seen how difficult it is for players to recover quickly and effectively from calf strains. It's likely the Bills will continue to bring Watkins back slowly. His absence could easily last another 2-3 weeks.
Two more weeks, would be the London game, or they could hold him out another and get extra rest with the bye.
I think both will be out till 11/8
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Bills_Fan11
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After further review I think this is probably right. Also one of those TD drives extended by penalty on FG. A penalty which the refs apparently go out of their way to avoid except when it involves the Bills. Basically 18pts by terrible calls.Steve Tasker said:
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flysack
Footballguy
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Karlos has a concussion Whaley just said he reported it late to the staff late Monday night. Ridiculous. Hinted at hoping he's cleared by Friday. Trying out backs today, likely Bryce Brown a possability.
Whaley hinted at McCoy being long term. Seemed like they are going to see what Watkins is like this week, but thinking more so for next week, is at least how I understood it. Said it wasn't a Victor Cruz calf injury.
Talked about wanting to not have his young QB pass 40 times a game and scouting.
Whaley hinted at McCoy being long term. Seemed like they are going to see what Watkins is like this week, but thinking more so for next week, is at least how I understood it. Said it wasn't a Victor Cruz calf injury.
Talked about wanting to not have his young QB pass 40 times a game and scouting.
OC Zed
Footballguy
The weekly reports from the stands and parking lot is really embarrassing. Doesn't anyone else in actually living in Western NY actually feel this way?
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
This season has turned kind of ugly really fast. We're to the point where they're bringing in Trent Richardson for a workout
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Trent Richardson's house
[Phone rings]
{sets down donut}
"Hello?"
[Phone rings]
{sets down donut}
"Hello?"
Bills_Fan11
Footballguy
Is that for real? How do they not just bring Bryce Brown back. He's a fine stopgap in a pinch, can catch a little bit, presumably knows the offense.
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Steve Tasker
Footballguy
I'm just kinda surprised it's being picked up nationally now. Seems like it started last year with the Kiko Alonso jersey #######. I had season tickets from 2003-2009 and 2015-present and have been to at least 3-4 games per year since about 2000, and the atmosphere seems pretty much the same as it has always been. Maybe it's just the advent of social media?
yeah, Bills fans have always been sloppy drunks.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Super King
Footballguy
Super King
Footballguy
I'd say at least 1/3 of the people on my bus were blowing this Sunday at the game.
I'd say at least 1/3 of the people on my bus were blowing this Sunday at the game.
What were they blowing?
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Jordan Gay cut - Signed Billy Cundiff who can handle kick off's - The writing could be on the wall for Carpenter as it should.
Denarious Moore signed who can handle PR duties as well and can offer more than Thigpen was at the WR position. I did feel comforable with Thigpen returning punts. He actually caught the ball unlike McKelvin. I guess catching a few punts this year inside his own eight yard line did him in.
Aaron Williams practiced - not sure what capacity.
Miller was limited.
Watkins didn't practice.
Obviously no McCoy
Boobie Dixon will start "if" Karlos is unable to go.
Who will lead the Bills in rushing if Karlos can't play? - Boobie, Tyrod, Wood, Harvin
Denarious Moore signed who can handle PR duties as well and can offer more than Thigpen was at the WR position. I did feel comforable with Thigpen returning punts. He actually caught the ball unlike McKelvin. I guess catching a few punts this year inside his own eight yard line did him in.
Aaron Williams practiced - not sure what capacity.
Miller was limited.
Watkins didn't practice.
Obviously no McCoy
Boobie Dixon will start "if" Karlos is unable to go.
Who will lead the Bills in rushing if Karlos can't play? - Boobie, Tyrod, Wood, Harvin
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Lots of Twitter reports that Aaron Williams will be playing this week. That's very good news. Rambo and Duke Williams have been very sub-par
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
It was just a few weeks ago that we had more running backs than we could roster. How did we get to this point so fast?
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
snow! its buffalo after allI'd say at least 1/3 of the people on my bus were blowing this Sunday at the game.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Just so the Fred Jackson lovers have something to complain about. Who is also, no shocker... hurt again.
who isn't a Fred Jackson lover?
Does Bryce Brown prefer to stay home or something? Not sure why he wasn't signed already.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
I like him, but it was the right move to get rid of Fred. In hindsight the rest of our RB's are all hurt, but so is Fred in Seattle.
It says something that Bryce Brown isn't here after all or was even claimed right away. Are teams working him out? Boom Herron was getting worked out by more teams the last 2-3 weeks.
Boobie, Cierre and Boom Herron will be a weird backfield if that's the case Sunday.
Hoping Karlos is ok to go.
Bryce Brown worked out with the Colts earlier this week. Also with the Jets last week I believe.
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Nobody wants a fumbler. That's why Bryce Brown is sitting at home.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Bills twitter account tweeted... Sources say... Sammy Watkins smiling at practice today.
Not sure to what extent he's practicing or if it's a twitter troll job, but he's out there.
Not sure to what extent he's practicing or if it's a twitter troll job, but he's out there.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
PFF absolutely loves Darby. They have him listed as the frontrunner for Defensive ROY and on their All-Pro team after 4 weeks. Obviously it's a very long season and plenty of time for a dropoff, but what an encouraging start for his career....for a guy that many pundits called a reach.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
All the hand wringing by some about not having a first round pick and the Bills come away with Darby, Karlos and Miller. His first round picks may be somewhat questionable so far, but Whaley has been hitting the rest of his drafts out of the park.
not crazy about last year's 2nd rounder but everybody misses sometimes.GroveDiesel said:
2014:
Watkins
Kouandjio
P.Brown
Cockrell
Richardson
R.Johnson
Henderson
3 starters out of this group, and Cockrell looked pretty good for the Steelers so might make a quality reserve at least. I also think Randell Johnson is a nice depth LB who could develop into a bigger role at some point.
missed this last week, but always helps me to see these breakdowns after the fact:
http://www.wgr550.com/JW-All-22-Review-Bills-Giants/22039752
http://www.wgr550.com/JW-All-22-Review-Bills-Giants/22039752
Bills_Fan11
Footballguy
I'll spare everyone the "offense needs to be better" post, since that goes w/out saying. Can we just bank that one and move on? Special thanks to Whisenhunt & T-Mobile.
For the 5th time in 6 weeks Vegas has Bills a virtual pick 'em. I think an opponent coming off a Seattle game as opposed to extra rest for once is a plus. I sorta like our chances if Sammy is back which by most accounts he should be.
For the 5th time in 6 weeks Vegas has Bills a virtual pick 'em. I think an opponent coming off a Seattle game as opposed to extra rest for once is a plus. I sorta like our chances if Sammy is back which by most accounts he should be.
smapdi
Footballguy
Tyrod saved the win this week with his legs. With the junior varsity RB crew the Bills fielded, they really couldn't do anything the entire game. TMobile had a huge 26 yard scramble for an important 1st down & then a beautiful TD run. He was their most explosive ball carrier today. Those runs also help set up the game wining TD pass to Hogan.
From the looks of the first 3 quarters, this team desperately needs Sammy Watkins, Shady McCoy, & Karlos Williams back. Without Watkins, the other WRs are having a lot of trouble getting open. Sammy draws so much attention & keeps the CB1 and safeties occupied .
McCoy & Williams speak for themselves : the rushing game was pitiful with Dixon and Heron. I really hope Shady gets bavk to 100% sooner rather then later so they can actually get production from their RB & help open up passing game
From the looks of the first 3 quarters, this team desperately needs Sammy Watkins, Shady McCoy, & Karlos Williams back. Without Watkins, the other WRs are having a lot of trouble getting open. Sammy draws so much attention & keeps the CB1 and safeties occupied .
McCoy & Williams speak for themselves : the rushing game was pitiful with Dixon and Heron. I really hope Shady gets bavk to 100% sooner rather then later so they can actually get production from their RB & help open up passing game
PFF ranking of top corners in the league through 5 weeks so far:
1. Josh Norman, CAR
2. Ronald Darby, BUF
3. Stephon Gilmore, BUF
4. Tyrann Mathieu, AZ
5. Chris Harris, DEN
6. Adam Jones, CIN
7. Patrick Robinson, SD
8. Desmond Trufant, ATL
9. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, NYG
10. Delvin Breaux, NO
1. Josh Norman, CAR
2. Ronald Darby, BUF
3. Stephon Gilmore, BUF
4. Tyrann Mathieu, AZ
5. Chris Harris, DEN
6. Adam Jones, CIN
7. Patrick Robinson, SD
8. Desmond Trufant, ATL
9. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, NYG
10. Delvin Breaux, NO
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Did anyone back in August think Buffalo wouldn't be on this list right now:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000555560/native/texans-lions-49ers-head-nfls-most-problematic-qb-situations?akapp=mobile&akview=phone&akvideo=on
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000555560/native/texans-lions-49ers-head-nfls-most-problematic-qb-situations?akapp=mobile&akview=phone&akvideo=on
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Classic Bills. Just enough hope and excitement with Tyrod Taylor and then....BOOM...sprained MCL and may miss multiple weeks.
Here's hoping that Manuel looks as good in his place as he looked during the preseason.
Here's hoping that Manuel looks as good in his place as he looked during the preseason.
Bills_Fan11
Footballguy
Was wondering what was up when I saw the line moved to +3. Yup that explains it. Nice knowing ya 2015.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Was only a matter of time. QBs, especially mobile QBs, miss games....hopefully EJ can hold down the fort. I'd be okay with 4-3 and a fresh Taylor coming off of the bye into the 3 straight division games.
Taylor was clutch, but it's not like the offense was a well oiled machine with him out there the past couple weeks. Hopefully they get Sammy and Karlos back this week.
I think most of us were feeling pretty good about John Miller, but he's not playing very well yet.
http://bills.buffalonews.com/2015/10/13/john-miller-struggles-marcell-dareus-shines-in-pffs-grading-for-week-five/
http://bills.buffalonews.com/2015/10/13/john-miller-struggles-marcell-dareus-shines-in-pffs-grading-for-week-five/
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I agree that Miller hasn't been very good, but I also have a hard time taking PFF seriously anymore. Their player grades have become a joke.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Seeing a lot of griping about the Bills trading Cassel....why? There are probably 0 teams (didn't look it up) carrying two competent veteran backup QBs. Manuel won the job, Cassel got traded. Seems like a no-brainer to me. The Bills are lucky they've got Manuel and not, say, Brandon Weeden or Jimmy Clausen.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
EJ didn't win the job, he was the #3 QB who was inactive until Cassel was traded.
Bills_Fan11
Footballguy
Technically true but obviously that trade doesn't happen if they don't think the difference is negligable.
Not necessarily- they said at the time EJ had a better chance to develop as the #2 than the #3, plus possibly other financial and roster concerns, draft pick compensation, etc.
I really don't think Cassel is good, but he was the #2 QB at the time.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
That might be true. The problem is that a lot of us don't think the difference was negligible. I was very much against the Cassel trade. The reason is because of the exact situation the team is in now.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
I'd rather have Cassel than carry two kickers, that's for sure. That's just dumb.
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