2021 Buffalo Bills - Same as it ever was*** (2 Viewers)

[Steve Tasker]

Good news: some of the results went the Bills way today...Jets, Dolphins, Raiders lose. It will cushion the blow a bit after tomorrow's loss.

Bad news: Chiefs have won 4 straight and the Bills have to go to Arrowhead next week. Visiting a hot team with playoff implications on the line. How will the Bills show?

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Good news: some of the results went the Bills way today...Jets, Dolphins, Raiders lose. It will cushion the blow a bit after tomorrow's loss.

Bad news: Chiefs have won 4 straight and the Bills have to go to Arrowhead next week. Visiting a hot team with playoff implications on the line. How will the Bills show?

Yeah, those teams lost, but I think the Bills will be competing against the Steelers, Chiefs, and Texans/Colts, based on schedules. Next week's game could be the deciding factor... Very important two games coming up, starting tomorrow night.

 

[flysack]

Good news: some of the results went the Bills way today...Jets, Dolphins, Raiders lose. It will cushion the blow a bit after tomorrow's loss.

Bad news: Chiefs have won 4 straight and the Bills have to go to Arrowhead next week. Visiting a hot team with playoff implications on the line. How will the Bills show?

I know what I'm about to say. I know how it will be received. You know I'm an old Bills fan from the Bruce Smith '85 pick and on. But listen -

Imagine they win tonight. NE is gimpy. The Bills are healthy.

Yes, I know. But listen -

If they win tonight, they will become an injury-riddled team who finally got healthy and ripped off a 3 game winning streak against their division, including ending their hated rival's undefeated season.

Then they go into Arrowhead.

Yes. Can we Billieve?

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Good luck bills fans. I could see yall winning tonight...but next week at KC is an L.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Good luck bills fans. I could see yall winning tonight...but next week at KC is an L.

Am I the only one who thinks Kansas City isn't very good? They have a soft upcoming schedule which could be the determining factor, but I've just not been impressed from when I've seen them play. I didn't see them destroy San Diego yesterday though.

If the KC game was a home game, I'd be confident in the Bills - assuming they make it through tonight without injury problems. But on the road, I think it's close.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Good luck bills fans. I could see yall winning tonight...but next week at KC is an L.

Am I the only one who thinks Kansas City isn't very good? They have a soft upcoming schedule which could be the determining factor, but I've just not been impressed from when I've seen them play. I didn't see them destroy San Diego yesterday though.If the KC game was a home game, I'd be confident in the Bills - assuming they make it through tonight without injury problems. But on the road, I think it's close.

Their defense is playing really well. Their offense is pretty limited since losing Charles and will be even moreso without West.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Good news: some of the results went the Bills way today...Jets, Dolphins, Raiders lose. It will cushion the blow a bit after tomorrow's loss.

Bad news: Chiefs have won 4 straight and the Bills have to go to Arrowhead next week. Visiting a hot team with playoff implications on the line. How will the Bills show?

Yeah, those teams lost, but I think the Bills will be competing against the Steelers, Chiefs, and Texans/Colts, based on schedules. Next week's game could be the deciding factor... Very important two games coming up, starting tomorrow night.

I'm still having trouble taking the AFC South seriously. I will be stunned if they get 2 teams in the playoffs. I'm still thinking Steelers, Jets, and now the Chiefs will be in the hunt for the long-run.

 

[Gottabesweet]

Need to go 1/2 these next two weeks.

Our 40% chances currently take abount a 28% hit going 0-2.

KC's D has been playing well.

Let's just shock the world and win tonight.

 

[Gottabesweet]

Good news: some of the results went the Bills way today...Jets, Dolphins, Raiders lose. It will cushion the blow a bit after tomorrow's loss.

Bad news: Chiefs have won 4 straight and the Bills have to go to Arrowhead next week. Visiting a hot team with playoff implications on the line. How will the Bills show?

Yeah, those teams lost, but I think the Bills will be competing against the Steelers, Chiefs, and Texans/Colts, based on schedules. Next week's game could be the deciding factor... Very important two games coming up, starting tomorrow night.

I'm still having trouble taking the AFC South seriously. I will be stunned if they get 2 teams in the playoffs. I'm still thinking Steelers, Jets, and now the Chiefs will be in the hunt for the long-run.

These schedule's are all crazy. Pitt, KC has very nice schedules going forward, Haven't looked at the south, I know a bunch of them play eachother. Just need them to "beat" up on eachother.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Good news: some of the results went the Bills way today...Jets, Dolphins, Raiders lose. It will cushion the blow a bit after tomorrow's loss.

Bad news: Chiefs have won 4 straight and the Bills have to go to Arrowhead next week. Visiting a hot team with playoff implications on the line. How will the Bills show?

Yeah, those teams lost, but I think the Bills will be competing against the Steelers, Chiefs, and Texans/Colts, based on schedules. Next week's game could be the deciding factor... Very important two games coming up, starting tomorrow night.

I'm still having trouble taking the AFC South seriously. I will be stunned if they get 2 teams in the playoffs. I'm still thinking Steelers, Jets, and now the Chiefs will be in the hunt for the long-run.

These schedule's are all crazy. Pitt, KC has very nice schedules going forward, Haven't looked at the south, I know a bunch of them play eachother. Just need them to "beat" up on eachother.

Texans have:

Saints (W?)

@Bills

Patriots (L)

@Colts (W?)

@Titans (W?)

Jaguars (W?)

If they find a way to win against the Bills they could very possibly finish 10-6.

Colts:

Buccaneers (W?)

@Steelers (L)

@Jaguars (W?)

Texans (W?)

@Miami (W?)

Titans (W?)

That's a bit tougher, but if they get on a roll they could finish with 10 wins, too. Obviously they can't both win their head to head game, but one could finish with 10 and the other with 9.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Joe Buscaglia ‏@JoeBuscaglia 3h3 hours ago

Tom Brady on MNF at home since 2001: 7-1 record, outscored opponents by almost 2 TDs (33.5 to 19.8), and they haven't lost in over 10 years.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Joe Buscaglia ‏@JoeBuscaglia 3h3 hours ago

Tom Brady on MNF at home since 2001: 7-1 record, outscored opponents by almost 2 TDs (33.5 to 19.8), and they haven't lost in over 10 years.

So you're saying there's a chance...?!?!

 

[Bills_Fan11]

Worthless tweet alert. Do they not win 7 of every 8 at home anyway?

 

[GroveDiesel]

Leodis McKelvin to return kicks tonight. I can't possibly see how that could go wrong.

 

[Fariq]

I see Sieve Time has made its way to Buffalo. I believe I may have warned Bills fans of this in this thread in January. Tonight at New England-

First 29 minutes: 3 points allowed.

Final minute of first half: Sieve Time.

 

[Steve Tasker]

I don't think that's a Rex thing. That's been happening to the Bills against the Patriots for the past 15 years.

 

[Fariq]

I don't think that's a Rex thing. That's been happening to the Bills against the Patriots for the past 15 years.

Most Jets losses in the Ryan era featured Sieve Time.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I don't think that's a Rex thing. That's been happening to the Bills against the Patriots for the past 15 years.

Most Jets losses in the Ryan era featured Sieve Time.

Those were the first points the Bills have given up in under the 2 minute mark in the first half.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Leodis McKelvin to return kicks tonight. I can't possibly see how that could go wrong.

Just brutal

 

[Steve Tasker]

Hope to god they can be healthy for next week.

 

[Steve Tasker]

High points:

- front 4 pass rush - specifically Jerry Hughes

- McCoy

- pass protection, Tyrod was barely touched

- Darby & Co shutting down Gronk

Low points:

- Tyrod was off all night plus the injury

- didn't love the O playcalling....felt like Watkins was only running deep nine routes for the first 3.5 quarters

- open field tackling

- Duke Williams

 

[flysack]

Leodis McKelvin to return kicks tonight. I can't possibly see how that could go wrong.

Prophetic.

 

[On The Rocks]

It's Tuesday morning, and Tyrod Taylor just under threw another receiver.

 

[flysack]

I'll be honest: I'm beginning to have some doubts about Tyrod.

I love his poise and courage, but his field vision isn't that great.

For those of you who like reviewing the All-22 footage, I'd love to know how many times he failed to see Sammy open. I have a sneaky suspicion it's a lot.

 

[flysack]

High points:

- front 4 pass rush - specifically Jerry Hughes

- McCoy

- pass protection, Tyrod was barely touched

- Darby & Co shutting down Gronk

Low points:

- Tyrod was off all night plus the injury

- didn't love the O playcalling....felt like Watkins was only running deep nine routes for the first 3.5 quarters

- open field tackling

- Duke Williams

Agree on the playcalling, but those sweep plays with both RBs on the field were new, and they worked well.

 

[Gottabesweet]

Hopefully Jeff Tuel starts Sunday vs. KC.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/11/24/monday-night-football-officials/Gkecqt95j5tpE30ntKHaJM/story.html

 

[Gottabesweet]

Rex on WGR:

No Miller

likely no Easley

Taylor he thinks he'll play

Mario it's too early

They didn't ask about Dareus.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

I'll be honest: I'm beginning to have some doubts about Tyrod.

I love his poise and courage, but his field vision isn't that great.

Ditto.

I really wonder what this team would look like with Cassel, who seemed to have really good chemistry with the receivers. He made his reads, and delivered the ball accurately to get it in the hands of the play-makers. I still say this wasn't a team that needed a play-maker at QB. A field general would have fit perfectly.

 

[OC Zed]

Awful. Just awful. Again.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Chris Hogan with 11 targets. Watkins with 10. Makes sense.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I'll be honest: I'm beginning to have some doubts about Tyrod.

I love his poise and courage, but his field vision isn't that great.

Ditto.

I really wonder what this team would look like with Cassel, who seemed to have really good chemistry with the receivers. He made his reads, and delivered the ball accurately to get it in the hands of the play-makers. I still say this wasn't a team that needed a play-maker at QB. A field general would have fit perfectly.

I totally disagree with this. If your defense is going to give up 30 against a pretty average team, you need a guy who can make plays at QB. Cassel just isn't that guy (or Orton).

 

[Ghost Rider]

You also need to play smart. That roughing the passer penalty on 55 late in the game was one of the dumbest penalties I have ever seen, but it sums up a Rex Ryan team in a nutshell. Zero discipline.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I suspect this is largely my fault, by the way. I found out about a week and a half ago that I'm being promoted two notches up the administrative food chain effective in June, leapfrogging over some people. To balance things out, my school's football team subsequently lost the last two games of their season, including a playoff game, the Bills lost two straight, and even Arsenal has gone to #### to the degree that they can do so against bottom-table competition. Cosmic balance and all.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

You also need to play smart. That roughing the passer penalty on 55 late in the game was one of the dumbest penalties I have ever seen, but it sums up a Rex Ryan team in a nutshell. Zero discipline.

I don't think that was even among the dumbest penalties committed by Jerry Hughes personally. Kind of sad to say that.

 

[flysack]

You also need to play smart. That roughing the passer penalty on 55 late in the game was one of the dumbest penalties I have ever seen, but it sums up a Rex Ryan team in a nutshell. Zero discipline.

I don't think that was even among the dumbest penalties committed by Jerry Hughes personally. Kind of sad to say that.

He leads the league in personal fouls.

He's also the only real pass rushing threat we've had all season.

Speaking of the season, it's pretty much done.

 

[OC Zed]

You also need to play smart. That roughing the passer penalty on 55 late in the game was one of the dumbest penalties I have ever seen, but it sums up a Rex Ryan team in a nutshell. Zero discipline.

I don't think that was even among the dumbest penalties committed by Jerry Hughes personally. Kind of sad to say that.

Might not even be in the top 10. He has to be the dumbest player in the league.

 

[Bills_Fan11]

Another season over before December. Zero games won that mattered in my adult life.

 

[raidergil]

Horrible coaching. Rex blew 3 challenges - 1 he tried & 2 he didn't. D gets lit by Smith & Maclin?! After great start on O, the D let them down again.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Another season over before December. Zero games won that mattered in my adult life.

I think you could make the argument that the Bills have really only played 1 truly "important" game in the past 15 years (Pittsburgh 2004). Which of course they lost.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Another season over before December. Zero games won that mattered in my adult life.

I think you could make the argument that the Bills have really only played 1 truly "important" game in the past 15 years (Pittsburgh 2004). Which of course they lost.

I've mentioned this before, but my oldest child hadn't even turned one when the homerun-throwback game was played. He's now in the process of settling on a college. It makes me sick to my stomach what this team has done to an entire generation (literally) of fans. I'm not going anywhere because I'm completely bought-in and enjoyed the good times when they where around, but this is just awful for younger people.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I'll step out a little and predict 10-6.

Okay guys, time to get on it.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

I suspect this is largely my fault, by the way. I found out about a week and a half ago that I'm being promoted two notches up the administrative food chain effective in June, leapfrogging over some people. To balance things out, my school's football team subsequently lost the last two games of their season, including a playoff game, the Bills lost two straight, and even Arsenal has gone to #### to the degree that they can do so against bottom-table competition. Cosmic balance and all.

You selfish *******!!

Congrats.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

You also need to play smart. That roughing the passer penalty on 55 late in the game was one of the dumbest penalties I have ever seen, but it sums up a Rex Ryan team in a nutshell. Zero discipline.

Hughes was doing dumb things before Rex ever showed up.

 

[flysack]

Pipe dream wish -

Fire Rex.

Hire Swartz as HC

Retain Greg Roman

 

[GroveDiesel]

Pipe dream wish -

Fire Rex.

Hire Swartz as HC

Retain Greg Roman

Rex definitely blew the challenges yesterday, but he was 5 of 6 this year before yesterday. And let's be honest, while it was terrible that he didn't challenge the Hogan catch, even if he won that the Bills needed to go 50+ yards, get the TD and then the 2 point conversion just to force overtime.

And I've seen a lot of criticism of Rex for dropping 8 guys into coverage instead of blitzing yesterday, but Gilmore, Darby and Robey all had easy pick 6s either bounce right off their chests or just whiffed on. If those guys made just one of those, the Bills likely win and we'd be talking about how much of a genius Rex was to sit back and let Alex Smith make mistakes. But the players didn't execute.

 

[Steve Tasker]

I also hate how games like yesterday ruin my desire to watch football. I turned off the game yesterday after the 4th down challenge and didn't watch a single minute of football or check any scores thereafter. Turns out I missed what was apparently a very good SNF game. Thanks, Bills.

 

[flysack]

Pipe dream wish -

Fire Rex.

Hire Swartz as HC

Retain Greg Roman

Rex definitely blew the challenges yesterday, but he was 5 of 6 this year before yesterday. And let's be honest, while it was terrible that he didn't challenge the Hogan catch, even if he won that the Bills needed to go 50+ yards, get the TD and then the 2 point conversion just to force overtime.

And I've seen a lot of criticism of Rex for dropping 8 guys into coverage instead of blitzing yesterday, but Gilmore, Darby and Robey all had easy pick 6s either bounce right off their chests or just whiffed on. If those guys made just one of those, the Bills likely win and we'd be talking about how much of a genius Rex was to sit back and let Alex Smith make mistakes. But the players didn't execute.

My post was more about the season under Rex. The defense has regressed, the team is undisciplined, and highly plaid players are not producing and grumbling about it.

The offense has improved. And I do think a year of experience in Roman's system is what Tyrod needs to make quicker reads, etc. He is smart. He throws a great deep ball, and he doesn't scramble at first chance. I'm thinking another year running that offense will pay huge dividends.

I just don't see the defense returning to championship form under Ryan.

A year ago I would have never dreamed of writing the above sentence.

 

[Steve Tasker]

I am not ready to writeoff Tyrod. He has looked shaky at times but he's only started 9 games as a pro. 5-4 as a starter, 66% completion, 1,960 yards, 14 TD, 4 INT, 290 rushing and 2 TDs. Yes he's a one-read QB right now and only using half of the field.

Maybe he's not the future, but any Bills fan would be foolish to write him off at this point, I think. Draft a QB and let them battle it out, but I'm not gonna say he's a scrub based on what we've seen thus far. I think if you would've asked any Bills fan if they'd be happy with those numbers from the QB at the beginning of the season, every one of them would be ecstatic. He's just been inconsistent at times and the defense hasn't been what we'd hoped.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I am not ready to writeoff Tyrod. He has looked shaky at times but he's only started 9 games as a pro. 5-4 as a starter, 66% completion, 1,960 yards, 14 TD, 4 INT, 290 rushing and 2 TDs. Yes he's a one-read QB right now and only using half of the field.

Maybe he's not the future, but any Bills fan would be foolish to write him off at this point, I think. Draft a QB and let them battle it out, but I'm not gonna say he's a scrub based on what we've seen thus far. I think if you would've asked any Bills fan if they'd be happy with those numbers from the QB at the beginning of the season, every one of them would be ecstatic. He's just been inconsistent at times and the defense hasn't been what we'd hoped.

Taylor has exceeded the wildest dreams that any of us had for the QB position during the offseason. By all means, draft a QB, and keep drafting them until we stumble into a legitimate franchise QB. But I would be perfectly happy with Taylor as our presumed starter heading into next season.