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2021 Buffalo Bills - Same as it ever was*** (2 Viewers)

I though they'd nab Jones. They like him and rightly view him as a developmental QB - which he is. But that's what Tyrod was at one point too. Maybe he develops into a starting QB, maybe not. It's worth the gamble for the depth, imo.

Now that RB pick.....wtf....

 
OC Zed said:
Going into a new season with no new offensive line help?  This has turned out really well before...
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Sooo you were expecting someone to be drafted in the 5th or 6th or 7th round that would help the O-Line?  The O-Line was okay, sure they could have added some G-T depth in this draft and they'll be thin, especially if they get some injuries but the O-Line was one of the strengths last year.

 
The more I read about Jones, the more he sounds like EJ Manuel coming out of college, except EJ was more consistent in his game at FSU.

It makes you wonder that if our ####head former HC would have taken EJ in the 2nd or 3rd round like everyone projected, and forced him to develop a year or two like he needed, that maybe he could have been a good NFL QB. What a waste of a good character and arm.

 
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CanadianNFLJunkie said:
Sooo you were expecting someone to be drafted in the 5th or 6th or 7th round that would help the O-Line?  The O-Line was okay, sure they could have added some G-T depth in this draft and they'll be thin, especially if they get some injuries but the O-Line was one of the strengths last year.
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If? It's pretty much a guarantee that some of them are going to miss some games.

 
flysack said:
The more I read about Jones, the more he sounds like EJ Manuel coming out of college, except EJ was more consistent in his game at FSU.

It makes you wonder that if our ####head former HC would have taken EJ in the 2nd or 3rd round like everyone projected, and forced him to develop a year or two like he needed, that maybe he could have been a good NFL QB. What a waste of a good character and arm.
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I know taking Manuel in the 1st round increased the pressure on everyone, but it also gave the Bills an extra year on his contract. Which was important because they considered him a project, so the extra year would benefit both sides.

And having him sit for a year or two was EXACTLY the plan right up until Kevin Kolb suffered his career ending concussion. And to make matters worse, Manuel then got hurt with 3 weeks left in the preseason and missed out on that much more time to develop.

The entire first season was a total trainwreck. Then you get to year 2 with Marrone and the OC hating Manuel and scaring the crap out of him to the point where he was petrified to throw the ball. Then Orton gets brought in and trainwreck 2 was complete. 

Add in the rumors that came out after Marrone left about how they never even worked with Manuel individually, worked on his mechanics, or the fact that they didn't even have a QB Coach under Marrone, and the situation was completely screwed up every way possible. I don't know that anything would have changed for Manuel if he had received good coaching and Kolb had played for a year or two, but he seriously got screwed by the situation that did happen and never had a real chance to develop.

 
I like that WR the Bills took late. I have no idea if he can run routes, but he's reported to have good hands (unlike Goodwin) and his speed is ridiculous. Dude ran a 4.39 with a double hernia. Buffalo has had enough short fast receivers that did nothing to know that speed isn't everything and that game speed and track speed aren't the same, but if you're going to take a WR late, might as well take one with some game breaking ability.

 
It looks like the site I had been watching was a bit dated. It only showed baby Gronk and Zimmer. This looks to be a more complete list:

DE Bryson Albright, WR Davonte' Allen, WR Gary Chambers, WR Ed Eagan, LS Reid Ferguson, FB Glenn Gronkowski, C Robert Kugler, OL Jamison Lalk, QB Joe Licata, G Marquis Lucas, OL Keith Lumpkin, K Marshall Morgan, LB Eric Striker, CB Julian Whigham, DT Justin Zimmer

I don't know much about any of them, but at least they're bringing in some bodies at WR and OL to compete...

 
Cordy Glenn got paid. 5 years $65M. Rumored $30M over the first 2 years. 

Hard to see how they'll be able to keep Gilmore. Or sign Tyrod to a contract if TT proves to be legit. 

But no question Glenn is a stud.

 
GroveDiesel said:
Cordy Glenn got paid. 5 years $65M. Rumored $30M over the first 2 years. 

Hard to see how they'll be able to keep Gilmore. Or sign Tyrod to a contract if TT proves to be legit. 

But no question Glenn is a stud.
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What was his franchise number for this season? I haven't had a chance to look into it yet, but when I first heard this I assumed it would free up a few million this year.

 
GroveDiesel said:
I hope that Eric Striker kid can make the team. He seems like a great kid.
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Agreed.  Seems like a good prospect.

I also love his life story.  He overcame a drinking problem, landed that plane full of people, and reunited with his estranged girlfriend.  Great guy, aside from the whole Macho Grande thing.  

 
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GroveDiesel said:
Cordy Glenn got paid. 5 years $65M. Rumored $30M over the first 2 years. 

Hard to see how they'll be able to keep Gilmore. Or sign Tyrod to a contract if TT proves to be legit. 

But no question Glenn is a stud.
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Yeah, I think you just have to pay Glenn.  Corners are replaceable, but LT isn't.  

 
GroveDiesel said:
Cordy Glenn got paid. 5 years $65M. Rumored $30M over the first 2 years. 

Hard to see how they'll be able to keep Gilmore. Or sign Tyrod to a contract if TT proves to be legit. 

But no question Glenn is a stud.
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Even with that contract, they still have about 50m under the cap next year.  Kyle Williams also set to make 8.5 at 34 years old.  I think they will be able to get Gilmore done, if not both at big cap figures if they want.

 
Written by Aaron Schatz




Buffalo Bills


Right tackle

One tackle spot is set in Buffalo, with Cordy Glenn signing a five-year, $65 million extension this week. But the other tackle spot is a big question mark. The biggest problem is that 2014 second-round pick Cyrus Kouandjio has never developed. The Bills somewhat made up for that failure by finding a passable right tackle, Seantrel Henderson, in the seventh round that same year. But Henderson missed the last five games of last season battling Crohn's disease, and he's likely to miss at least part of the 2016 season trying to get healthy and back to his playing weight. That leaves Jordan Mills, the Chicago Bears' castoff who passed Kouandjio on the depth chart to start last December. Mills was not very good with the Bears, which is why they cut him after only two years. Buffalo didn't draft a single lineman this year; the best remaining free-agent tackle is probably Khalif Barnes, who is 34 and started only one game for Oakland last season.
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2016/insider/story/_/id/15469502/biggest-remaining-holes-all-32-teams-2016-nfl-draft-frank-gore-mike-evans

I'm still a bit peeved they didn't draft a RT in at least round 3. One significant injury to LT, G, or C could cripple this offense.

 
So despite their claims that he would not need surgery, Shaq Lawson is scheduled for surgery tomorrow and will likely be out 4-6 months. Nice job Whaley and crew.

 
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So despite their claims that he would not need surgery, Shaq Lawson is scheduled for surgery tomorrow and will likely be out 4-6 months. Nice job Whaley and crew.
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And Watkins is recovering from a broken foot.  Lovely.

 
Supposedly Watkins had the surgery 3 weeks ago and only now making it public?

As for Lawson, he apparently injured it working out recently?? so maybe that's why the medical staff originally cleared him to be drafted.

 
CanadianNFLJunkie said:
Supposedly Watkins had the surgery 3 weeks ago and only now making it public?

As for Lawson, he apparently injured it working out recently?? so maybe that's why the medical staff originally cleared him to be drafted.
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He aggravated the injury he already had. The one the team swore he would not need surgery for. He aggravated it making a swim move against a tackling dummy. If he aggravated it against a tackling dummy, he would have aggravated it against live competition as well. The team doctors should be fired if they really did clear him. Chances are, the doctors may not have even cleared him, but Rex & Whaley wanted him so bad they took him anyway and lied through their teeth.

 
Great off season for the Bills:

Shaq Lawson: shoulder surgery

Reggie Ragland: partially torn ACL, probably done for the season.

Karlos Williams: fat and suspended

J. Williams: Arrested for DWI

 
GroveDiesel said:
Great off season for the Bills:

Shaq Lawson: shoulder surgery

Reggie Ragland: partially torn ACL, probably done for the season.

Karlos Williams: fat and suspended

J. Williams: Arrested for DWI
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Yeah but our Bills now have Reggie Bush. So the Williams are less of a loss. 

I complained enough about Rex last offseason so I won't go down that road again but losing Lawson and Ragland is probably a major deal since they were likely going to be key as Rex tries to build his defense. 

Also, what's the word on Sammy?

 
Why can't we have nice things?

Remember the days when the Bills killed it in the draft, getting two defensive starters in the first two rounds?

Ahhh, those were the days.

 
flysack said:
Why can't we have nice things?

Remember the days when the Bills killed it in the draft, getting two defensive starters in the first two rounds?

Ahhh, those were the days.
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There's a great line in Yankee Doodle Dandy. George Cohan's future wife and hopeful Broadway performer said, "I know I have talent, even if I am from Buffalo." 

 
Schefter also tweeted saying that Shaq could be back October at the earliest.  His timetable has been a question mark.  If he practices in November and is back after the bye 11/20 that's still 7 games.

 
Ah yes, preseason football, the time of year when I try to find any takers to just take my season tickets for free, and never find anyone.

 
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