2021 College football thread - Auburn’s gotta Auburn. (1 Viewer)

[SFBayDuck]

BYU was never a realistic option for the Pac-10 or Pac-12 in large part because BYU won't play sports on Sundays.  You also have some very liberal schools in the Pac-12 and the Mormon stance on things like gay marriage won't fit culturally with the Pac-12 and the Pac-12 ain't bending on this one.  Academically, they aren't a research institution, so that's another problem.

Boise State was a commuter school for a long time and even now, doesn't have the academics to make the Pac-12.  That stuff still matters to the presidents et al.

Yup, and Boise is the 101st biggest tv market in the country, almost 50 spots behind metropolises like Buffalo and Fresno.  Doesn't make sense to split the pie into more pieces when the pie isn't getting bigger.  

 

[Osaurus]

Paying a coach for 10 years and driving him out after 3-4 is just dumb.  If the ND job is that bad, why would they want Kelly?  After all, they haven’t won a title since 88 and he can’t beat Bama.  LSU fires the coach who could though.  

Seriously wish this was a thing for lowly consultants like myself.

 

[Doug B]

Could you do "NC" instead of "Natty"?  Thanks.

No.

@Tom Servo... got anything to drink in the fridge?

 

[Brunell4MVP]

Virginia tech hired new HC Brett Pry, defensive coordinator at Penn state.  Not a name on most lists nor something many VT fans will like. But it’s a good hire.  A coordinator from a big time program is better IMO that brining up some mid level HC.  Hopefully he can recruit the areas from VT up to NY. Might take a while for him to win in state recruits.  We will see.  I like they went defensive side.  That’s where they still get pretty good players.  Hopefully he brings a good OC. 

ETA ...  I stand corrected on his ability to recruit VA.  Apparently he's been the assigned VA recruiter for PSU for a while, including the Hampton area which is the key one. 

 

[Tom Servo]

While I beat up Kelly plenty for his football acumen, he also rubbed many fans the wrong way with his personality screaming and turning purple at players his first few years on the job. The past 3-4 years he seemed to have turned a corner and become more likable, and even this season he was starting to say and act ways that were beginning to endear him to more fans.

I don't blame him for leaving, truly, for that amount of money or the opportunity. But man oh man is he returning to form here too:

"Multiple sources indicated that Brian Kelly’s address to the team on Tuesday morning lasted less than two minutes, then he turned around and walked out. He did not take questions from the players."

https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1465780600011247618

At least didn’t print out a note and tape one to everyone’s locker like Bobby Petrino did. 

 

[RUSF18]

Cincy really had a shot at this up until Oklahoma State upset Oklahoma. 

But with them now checking in at #5 have to figure that's the end of it with a win over Baylor. 

 

[bcat01]

Cincy really had a shot at this up until Oklahoma State upset Oklahoma. 

But with them now checking in at #5 have to figure that's the end of it with a win over Baylor. 

I was just coming to post this.

 

[WDIK2]

Cincy really had a shot at this up until Oklahoma State upset Oklahoma. 

But with them now checking in at #5 have to figure that's the end of it with a win over Baylor. 

Even with an Alabama loss?

 

[NutterButter]

Going through withdrawal.   Need a coach to quit stat.  I don't even care if its true.   

 

[Tom Servo]

Going through withdrawal.   Need a coach to quit stat.  I don't even care if its true.   

Sources tell me Ryan Day is quitting to run a pot farm. 

 

[Moe.]

Cincy really had a shot at this up until Oklahoma State upset Oklahoma. 

But with them now checking in at #5 have to figure that's the end of it with a win over Baylor. 

Wasn’t an upset, they were favored and ranked higher. Cincy plays a ranked team as well, I think they are gonna be fine. 

 

[Harry Frogfish]

Poor OU and now poor Jaxson Dart.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Fun fact for your day.

The coach with the highest all-time winning percentage in all of FBS is *still* Tom Osborne. He has a .836 win %.

The next closest is, of course, Nick Saban.

To catch Osborne's %, Saban would have to win the next 74 games in a row. Incredible.

 

[culdeus]

Fun fact for your day.

The coach with the highest all-time winning percentage in all of FBS is *still* Tom Osborne. He has a .836 win %.

The next closest is, of course, Nick Saban.

To catch Osborne's %, Saban would have to win the next 74 games in a row. Incredible.

When do OU and Texas show up in the SEC?

 

[Poke_4_Life]

Wasn’t an upset, they were favored and ranked higher. Cincy plays a ranked team as well, I think they are gonna be fine. 

Was going to say the same thing. 

Even as an OKState alum/fan I think they only get in with a Bama or Cincy loss (and a win over Baylor).

 

[Moe.]

Poor OU and now poor Jaxson Dart.

Dart just might get a Heisman out of the deal 

 

[facook]

Was going to say the same thing. 

Even as an OKState alum/fan I think they only get in with a Bama or Cincy loss (and a win over Baylor).

Bama is going to lose to UGA.  Then it becomes a matter of which school 2 loss Bama gets in over: Undefeated Cinci, or 1 loss Ok St?  Either way, head's are going to esplode.

 

[Harry Frogfish]

Dart just might get a Heisman out of the deal 

Yeah I was wrong, thought Malachi was coming next year.

 

[Harry Frogfish]

Bama is going to lose to UGA.  Then it becomes a matter of which school 2 loss Bama gets in over: Undefeated Cinci, or 1 loss Ok St?  Either way, head's are going to esplode.

I root for this kind of scenario every year.

 

[facook]

Bama is going to lose to UGA.  Then it becomes a matter of which school 2 loss Bama gets in over: Undefeated Cinci, or 1 loss Ok St?  Either way, head's are going to esplode.

I root for this kind of scenario every year.

I'm rooting for UGA to win 45-0 on Saturday.

 

[Jayded]

Fun fact for your day.

The coach with the highest all-time winning percentage in all of FBS is *still* Tom Osborne. He has a .836 win %.

The next closest is, of course, Nick Saban.

To catch Osborne's %, Saban would have to win the next 74 games in a row. Incredible.

Uhh Knute Rockne’s still at .881 and the all time best winning percentage. Second is actually his protege too, Frank Leahy at .864. 

Of modern coaches, Urban Meyer is third on that list at .854.

 

[NutterButter]

Fun fact for your day.

The coach with the highest all-time winning percentage in all of FBS is *still* Tom Osborne. He has a .836 win %.

The next closest is, of course, Nick Saban.

To catch Osborne's %, Saban would have to win the next 74 games in a row. Incredible.

Huh?   Meyer is at .854.   

 

[AAABatteries]

Huh?   Meyer is at .854.   

He said it was fun, not accurate.

 

[Jayded]

In the swirl today rumors were out there about Kelly wanting Freeman to come down as most saw. 

Just watched a podcast of former ND players still connected and an interesting story arose from that 11 minute 7 am meeting. 

Using there words after Kelly said his short piece that Marcus Freeman “jumped his ###” and got all on his case. The players erupted in support and that’s partly why they were all advocating for him earlier.

Suffice to say he isn’t joining Kelly it would appear. 

P.S, Holtz players clearly cannot stand Kelly

 

[FairWarning]

While I beat up Kelly plenty for his football acumen, he also rubbed many fans the wrong way with his personality screaming and turning purple at players his first few years on the job. The past 3-4 years he seemed to have turned a corner and become more likable, and even this season he was starting to say and act ways that were beginning to endear him to more fans.

I don't blame him for leaving, truly, for that amount of money or the opportunity. But man oh man is he returning to form here too:

"Multiple sources indicated that Brian Kelly’s address to the team on Tuesday morning lasted less than two minutes, then he turned around and walked out. He did not take questions from the players."

https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1465780600011247618

ND is going to have to step up on paying their next coach.  Kelly was making $2.6 mil.  He definitely wasn’t the most personable, going back to his Grand Valley days.  

 

[gump]

The Committee put their ‘injury’ theory in use by dropping ND possibly out of the CFP, based on the coaching change (vs injury).

 

[Jayded]

ND is going to have to step up on paying their next coach.  Kelly was making $2.6 mil.  He definitely wasn’t the most personable, going back to his Grand Valley days.  

He wasn’t compensated that low. Just like his leaked LSU contract says his base pay there is $500k, that is closer to his base pay. ND is private so we would never know the exact amount, but people I know that are closer to the situation say he was closer to $7M per year. 

It’s not $9.5 per year, but better than it looks. 

 

[Jayded]

The Committee put their ‘injury’ theory in use by dropping ND possibly out of the CFP, based on the coaching change (vs injury).

They’re setting up the Alabama excuse for the Georgia loss. I get the injury side, but what if Kelly was holding ND back? Sounds crazy to most I’m sure, but what evidence has Kelly shown that he’s the difference in ND being ready for a playoff game? Maybe Freeman would have them better prepared.
 

Almost feels too perfect a setup that losses will happen and they’d be in but this becomes Kelly’s final gift L to ND on his way out. 

 

[FairWarning]

They’re setting up the Alabama excuse for the Georgia loss. I get the injury side, but what if Kelly was holding ND back? Sounds crazy to most I’m sure, but what evidence has Kelly shown that he’s the difference in ND being ready for a playoff game? Maybe Freeman would have them better prepared.
 

Almost feels too perfect a setup that losses will happen and they’d be in but this becomes Kelly’s final gift L to ND on his way out. 

ND played Georgia, Clemson, and OU pretty well in the last 5 years.  I think it’s more the type of athlete ND allows.  IDK how many athletes on those schools (or Bama and Ohio St) ND actually recruits.  This has always been a hot topic in South Bend for years. 

 

[gump]

They’re setting up the Alabama excuse for the Georgia loss.

Per ESPN, chances of a 2-loss Bama getting into the CFP are < 50%, unless 2/3 of UM/OkSt/Cin lose...ND not considered.

 

[FairWarning]

Per ESPN, chances of a 2-loss Bama getting into the CFP are < 50%, unless 2/3 of UM/OkSt/Cin lose...ND not considered.

ND shouldn’t be considered with the schedule. They never dreamed to be 11-1 in a  rebuilding year.

 

[Capella]

Per ESPN, chances of a 2-loss Bama getting into the CFP are < 50%, unless 2/3 of UM/OkSt/Cin lose...ND not considered.

Yea if Bama loses they’d need a lot of help. They aren’t putting a relatively unimpressive 2-loss Bama team over a bunch of 1-loss conference champs. 
 

I don’t believe the committee has ever unfairly ranked Bama before so I don’t see what all the drama is about. 

 

[Tom Servo]

Yea if Bama loses they’d need a lot of help. They aren’t putting a relatively unimpressive 2-loss Bama team over a bunch of 1-loss conference champs. 

I don’t believe the committee has ever unfairly ranked Bama before so I don’t see what all the drama is about. 

I'd go so far as to say Bama is toast if they lose, doubly so if Georgia runs them out of the barn.  

IMO, if UGA, UM and Cincy all win they're in.  If Okie State takes care of business, they leap Cincy to take the three seed.

 

[Poke_4_Life]

I'd go so far as to say Bama is toast if they lose, doubly so if Georgia runs them out of the barn.  

IMO, if UGA, UM and Cincy all win they're in.  If Okie State takes care of business, they leap Cincy to take the three seed.

I knew I liked you.  

 

[gump]

OU Compliance tweet

Seems Riley has guys still on staff at OU recruiting for USC, which 5-star recruit Domani Jackson accidentally exposed in an interview.

 

[FairWarning]

I'd go so far as to say Bama is toast if they lose, doubly so if Georgia runs them out of the barn.  

IMO, if UGA, UM and Cincy all win they're in.  If Okie State takes care of business, they leap Cincy to take the three seed.

Is Cincy in with a win?  I’m not convinced they are.  A big win by Ok St (with a better schedule) may bump Cincy.  Of course if  Bama loses by double digits, it shouldn’t matter.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

When do OU and Texas show up in the SEC?

After the events that have unfolded over the past weekend I think OU is going to stay as long as possible in the BIG12. 

 

[Tom Servo]

Is Cincy in with a win?  I’m not convinced they are.  A big win by Ok St (with a better schedule) may bump Cincy.  Of course if  Bama loses by double digits, it shouldn’t matter.

If Cincy isn't in, then who?  A ND team whose best wins are no longer in the Top 25? A two loss Bama? All the other Top 10 teams have at least two losses.  The CFP hasn't taken a 2 loss team yet and there's no reason I can see why they'd change now.

 

[Tom Servo]

Chip Kelly invited his assistants to a party and made them shovel snow and park cars.

When now-NFL head coaches Robert Saleh and Matt LaFleur were graduate assistants under Kelly at Central Michigan, they received what they believed to be invitations to a party at Kelly's house. As it turns out, however, they received mandates to shovel snow and park cars all night. Sounds about on par for the guy who gave his Notre Dame team all of two minutes of his time on his way out the door.

You're going to have to pour me a glass of Yikes Hard Lemonade.

Tweet about the alleged incident

 

[JaxBill]

@Brett_McMurphy: Brian Kelly: "We got Garth Brooks coming. I’m pretty excited about that. You guys like Garth Brooks? He’s pretty good."

 

[Foosball God]

Chip Kelly invited his assistants to a party and made them shovel snow and park cars.

You're going to have to pour me a glass of Yikes Hard Lemonade.

Tweet about the alleged incident

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNfWcKjLzfk&ab_channel=bigfella1998

 

[AAABatteries]

If Cincy isn't in, then who?  A ND team whose best wins are no longer in the Top 25? A two loss Bama? All the other Top 10 teams have at least two losses.  The CFP hasn't taken a 2 loss team yet and there's no reason I can see why they'd change now.

I think the 4 is fairly straightforward - UGA, UM, Cincy, OSU - win and they are in.

If Bama beats UGA:  Bama, UM, UGA, OSU - Cincinnati would be 5th I think

If Bama lose and one of UM, Cincy, OSU lost then ND gets 4th.

That's how I see it shaking out and probably is 95% probability one of those scenarios. 

I think any 2-loss team is out (that would include Bama) except.....

if total chaos happens and Bama, UM, OSU and Cincy lose - if that happens I think it is:  UGA, Oregon, Bama, ND  (if Oregon beats Utah - if Oregon loses then hell if I would know who the 4th team is, would be a total crapshoot - maybe Baylor?)

 

[trader jake]

If Bama loses, they're out.  I don't care if they lose by 2 points in 4OTs to Georgia.  The committee is totally full of crap every time they give their "reasons" for what teams get in, the weekly rankings, or just about anything else they say...but even they're not dumb enough to put in a 2 loss team.

 

[trader jake]

Right? 

 

[JaxBill]

I think the 4 is fairly straightforward - UGA, UM, Cincy, OSU - win and they are in.

If Bama beats UGA:  Bama, UM, UGA, OSU - Cincinnati would be 5th I think

If Bama lose and one of UM, Cincy, OSU lost then ND gets 4th.

That's how I see it shaking out and probably is 95% probability one of those scenarios. 

OSU not tOSU,  right?

 

[FairWarning]

If Cincy isn't in, then who?  A ND team whose best wins are no longer in the Top 25? A two loss Bama? All the other Top 10 teams have at least two losses.  The CFP hasn't taken a 2 loss team yet and there's no reason I can see why they'd change now.

A 2-loss bama if they play Georgia tight.  It's set up for the power conferences.

 

[Jayded]

I think the committee has signaled ND is out no matter what unless it's more than two of the teams losing in front of them because of the Kelly situation they specifically called out as well.

I think if Bama wins, it's Bama/Georgia/UM/Ok State most likely with Cincinnati out. If Bama loses and one of the other loses where people thought ND would get in, I think the Kelly situation greatly opened the door for the possibility of Bama still being in an getting the "well they only lost by ____ and Brian Kelly's gone so...."

 

[Moe.]

OU Compliance tweet

Seems Riley has guys still on staff at OU recruiting for USC, which 5-star recruit Domani Jackson accidentally exposed in an interview.

I think OU fans are right to be upset about this one. It appears that Manning was literally on the road with Stoops recruiting for OU and texting guys on behalf of USC at the same time. 

I'm with GM now, the guy can't coach a lick and is going to fail. He had nothing to do with Baker and Kyler, didn't develop Hurts much, made Rattler worse, and I didn't see much improvement from Williams between UT and OSU. QB whisperer my ###. 

 

[General Malaise]

I wouldn't go so far as to say Riley can't coach a lick....I mean, there are NFL minds that like to study his offensive schemes.  

But......I'm not so sure this is a slam dunk hire that will turn USC around overnight.  Again, it's one thing to inherit a strong program and guide it than it is to inherit a mess and turn it into a success.  

 

[AAABatteries]

If Bama loses, they're out.  I don't care if they lose by 2 points in 4OTs to Georgia.  The committee is totally full of crap every time they give their "reasons" for what teams get in, the weekly rankings, or just about anything else they say...but even they're not dumb enough to put in a 2 loss team.

Armageddon scenario I mentioned above could force them to put a 2-loss team in.  If they do then I think a 2-loss Bama gets in over a 2-loss Baylor or Iowa - even with a conference championship.  And I’d have no problem with that.  I have no interest in watching UGA destroy Iowa or Baylor.