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2024 Detroit Crimson Tide..Roll Lions: Draft day! (33 Viewers)
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Campbell in postgame locker room
longer version (+ Isaiah Biggs breakdown)
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Lions coaches vs teams 5+ games over .500
Jim Schwartz: 0-10
Jim Caldwell: 0-8
Matt Patricia: 0-2
Darrell Bevell: 0-2
Dan Campbell: 3-0
longer version (+ Isaiah Biggs breakdown)
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Lions coaches vs teams 5+ games over .500
Jim Schwartz: 0-10
Jim Caldwell: 0-8
Matt Patricia: 0-2
Darrell Bevell: 0-2
Dan Campbell: 3-0
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Kerby Joseph has 47 yards on 3 interceptions
Kenny Golladay has 51 yards on 4 receptions (10 targets)
The comp pick the Lions received for Golladay was used on Joseph (97th)
Kenny Golladay has 51 yards on 4 receptions (10 targets)
The comp pick the Lions received for Golladay was used on Joseph (97th)
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Love it, and I can see why players would love it too.
If DC would have figured it out a little earlier Lions could easily be 6-4. But he is learning on the job.
TartanLion
Footballguy
As I end up realising every year, there is very little in about 25ish of the NFL teams. You have 2-4 elite teams, 2-4 absolute dumpster fires that are tanking for a new QB then the rest are all just marginal depending on injuries/ref decisions/HC mistakes etc. Lions threw the game away against 8-2 Viking in week 3 or whenever it was. If they’d won that, what would they have gone on to do up until now ??
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Alim McNeill had his most complete game as a pro. 4 tackles, 3 TFL, 1 sack, 3 QB hits.
Cominsky had a sack and 2 TFL - pretty big game with Josh Pascal and Charles Harris out. Hutch with the INT and FR - he's so much more effective when they stand him up (same as college.)
Evan Brown went down after 14 plays, Dan Skipper once again stepped in and the offense didn't miss a beat. Tremendous game in the trenches on both sides of the ball.
Lions went for it on 4th down zero times yesterday. 2nd time this year (Dallas.) 4/6 v MIN, 0/6 v NE. With this coach I don't mind seeing a 0/0 once in awhile.
But seriously, I do feel like MCDC has been much calmer in game of late, not pressing too much. He's learning to trust the players more.
Cominsky had a sack and 2 TFL - pretty big game with Josh Pascal and Charles Harris out. Hutch with the INT and FR - he's so much more effective when they stand him up (same as college.)
Evan Brown went down after 14 plays, Dan Skipper once again stepped in and the offense didn't miss a beat. Tremendous game in the trenches on both sides of the ball.
Lions went for it on 4th down zero times yesterday. 2nd time this year (Dallas.) 4/6 v MIN, 0/6 v NE. With this coach I don't mind seeing a 0/0 once in awhile.
But seriously, I do feel like MCDC has been much calmer in game of late, not pressing too much. He's learning to trust the players more.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
- 1.01 Travon Walker, ED/LB
61.2 PFF grade
36 tackles, 2.5 sacks, 1 INT, 2 PD, 0 FF, 0 FR
- 1.02 Aidan Hutchinson, ED
66.8 PFF
31 tackles, 5.5 sacks, 2 INT, 2 PD, 0 FF, 1 FR
- Derek Singley Jr, CB
49.1 PFF
43 tackes, 1 INT, 5 PD
- 1.03 Suace Gardner, CB
86.1 PFF
45 tackles, 2 INT, 14 PD
- Kayvon Thibodeaux, ED
65.3 PFF
19 tackles, 1 sack, 0 INT, 3 PD, 1 FF, 1 FR
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Agree that Hutch is way better standing up and a little of the line where he is not engaged right away. Where did Cominsky come from? Had not seen much of him all year.
Speaking of Parsons he was unblockable yesterday. Cousins "did not like that" at all.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I just want to congratulate you all for 3 wins in a row. I'm happy for the players and I hope that Dan Campbell can finish strong so there isn't a lot of questions about who is leading this team in 2023. I see big things coming for the Lions and maybe because they have been doormats for so long, I like the uniforms, the look, wish they would figure out how to play on real grass, whatever the cost. Build a place adjacent that's a green house like thing that is there for the sole purpose of a proper turf vs that carpet. That's my only complaint
Maybe Goff won't take you to the promised land but you are armed with the Rams #1 and let me tell you that's starting to look like your future QB if you choose to go that route. I think Goff is worth something in a trade, not sure his exact value but he's better than at least 8-10 starting QBs this past weekend. Goff needs everything running well around him but he's not terrible and i could see a Playoff level team that needs an upgrade there, could be traded for the right price.
Hutch is a BEAST! I like him a lot and thought he was one of the absolute gems in the Draft, so happy for him. He is going to be the face of the franchise on defense, just a delight to watch and root for. Maybe the biggest thing since Watt or the Bosa Brothers, he's on that level which quite frankly makes him an All-Pro almost immediately and that's rare in the NFL. This guy can get sacks, picks, TFLs, he's a nightmare walking.
This team is ready to create a new fan base or expand greatly on the one they've treated so poorly for so long. It sure looks like things are on the cusp of getting better. Hoping for a good showing on Thanksgiving, easy to say automatic loss but I really hope the Lions make them earn it.
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Maybe Goff won't take you to the promised land but you are armed with the Rams #1 and let me tell you that's starting to look like your future QB if you choose to go that route. I think Goff is worth something in a trade, not sure his exact value but he's better than at least 8-10 starting QBs this past weekend. Goff needs everything running well around him but he's not terrible and i could see a Playoff level team that needs an upgrade there, could be traded for the right price.
Hutch is a BEAST! I like him a lot and thought he was one of the absolute gems in the Draft, so happy for him. He is going to be the face of the franchise on defense, just a delight to watch and root for. Maybe the biggest thing since Watt or the Bosa Brothers, he's on that level which quite frankly makes him an All-Pro almost immediately and that's rare in the NFL. This guy can get sacks, picks, TFLs, he's a nightmare walking.
This team is ready to create a new fan base or expand greatly on the one they've treated so poorly for so long. It sure looks like things are on the cusp of getting better. Hoping for a good showing on Thanksgiving, easy to say automatic loss but I really hope the Lions make them earn it.
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Bozeman Bruiser
Footballguy
I am an admitted bandwagon fan that was on board for about 10 years then hopped off when I no longer had any Lions on my fantasy rosters. ARSB brought me back around this summer and it has been an exciting/frustrating ride. Glad to see they are getting healthier and things are coming together. Some teams you can just look at and tell the players have given up and don't want to be there. Not these guys, they look hungry and united.
Here's to MCDC shouting "that's four" in the locker room Thursday afternoon.
And also shouting "that's ten" in Lambeau week 18
Here's to MCDC shouting "that's four" in the locker room Thursday afternoon.
And also shouting "that's ten" in Lambeau week 18
Never that excited about Swift, although he did look good early. Much rather be giving more feeds to Jackson.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Let's give a shout out to OC Ben Johnson. Not exactly an all pro lineup to work with at the skill positions, but he seems to come up with plays that work.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Week 11 PFF Grade highlights
WR Amon-Ra St. Brown – 82.4
LGJustin Jonah Jackson – 80.8
RT Penei Sewell – 73.8
WR Kalif Raymond – 72.4
The OL thrived in New York. Interestingly, both St. Brown and Raymond earned individual blocking grades over 86, indicating greatness. Decker did not allow a single QB pressure against the Giants, largely marched up against first-rounder Kayvon Thibodeaux.
Lowest 5 offensive grades
QB Jared Goff – 47.9
FB Jason Cabinda – 49.8
TE James Mitchell – 53.0
WR DJ Chark – 53.5
RB D’Andre Swift – 54.6
Goff registered his lowest-graded game of the season, both overall and as a passer (42.4). Cabinda’s grade was impacted by a dropped pass and a missed blitz pickup assignment. Swift’s fumble lowered his grade, which was salvaged by a late TD.
NT Alim McNeill – 91.0
DE Aidan Hutchinson – 85.6
CB Will Harris – 77.8
S Kerby Joseph – 69.2
LB Derrick Barnes – 69.0
McNeill had a whale of a game, as did Hutchinson with his INT and fumble recovery. Four of the five players here are rookies or in their second seasons. Harris continues to play well as the team’s primary slot CB.
DE Austin Bryant – 32.9
LB Malcolm Rodriguez – 34.7
CB Mike Hughes – 42.9
DL John Cominsky – 46.5
Board’s low score was based on coverage, where he surrendered a touchdown and was beaten for another catch. Bryant missed two tackles, while Rodriguez was beaten for four receptions and a lot of yards-after-catch.
Top 5 overall offensive grades
LT Taylor Decker – 86.3WR Amon-Ra St. Brown – 82.4
LG
RT Penei Sewell – 73.8
WR Kalif Raymond – 72.4
The OL thrived in New York. Interestingly, both St. Brown and Raymond earned individual blocking grades over 86, indicating greatness. Decker did not allow a single QB pressure against the Giants, largely marched up against first-rounder Kayvon Thibodeaux.
Lowest 5 offensive grades
QB Jared Goff – 47.9
FB Jason Cabinda – 49.8
TE James Mitchell – 53.0
WR DJ Chark – 53.5
RB D’Andre Swift – 54.6
Goff registered his lowest-graded game of the season, both overall and as a passer (42.4). Cabinda’s grade was impacted by a dropped pass and a missed blitz pickup assignment. Swift’s fumble lowered his grade, which was salvaged by a late TD.
Top 5 overall defensive grades
NT Alim McNeill – 91.0
DE Aidan Hutchinson – 85.6
CB Will Harris – 77.8
S Kerby Joseph – 69.2
LB Derrick Barnes – 69.0
McNeill had a whale of a game, as did Hutchinson with his INT and fumble recovery. Four of the five players here are rookies or in their second seasons. Harris continues to play well as the team’s primary slot CB.
Bottom 5 defensive grades
LB Chris Board – 27.8DE Austin Bryant – 32.9
LB Malcolm Rodriguez – 34.7
CB Mike Hughes – 42.9
DL John Cominsky – 46.5
Board’s low score was based on coverage, where he surrendered a touchdown and was beaten for another catch. Bryant missed two tackles, while Rodriguez was beaten for four receptions and a lot of yards-after-catch.
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
He runs big, so he can play both positions.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Also, Cabinda at FB being back is huge. Dude is friggin' load, great blocker.
Week 11 first defense play was Alim McNeill stuffing Barkley for a TFL.
First offensive play was Penei walking back Big Cat Williams and Jonah pulling and Cabinda leading, Jamaal goes for 11 yards.
Talk about setting the tone - that was the whole game condensed.
This is a physical football team playing the brand of football Campbell & Holmes envisioned when they came in here.
Motor City Smashmouth
Week 11 first defense play was Alim McNeill stuffing Barkley for a TFL.
First offensive play was Penei walking back Big Cat Williams and Jonah pulling and Cabinda leading, Jamaal goes for 11 yards.
Talk about setting the tone - that was the whole game condensed.
This is a physical football team playing the brand of football Campbell & Holmes envisioned when they came in here.
Motor City Smashmouth
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
four plays from Hutchinson
- comes all the way across the formation to take down Saquon (with Barnes)
- blows up the toss sweep by overpowering Golladay forcing Barkley wide
- one step rush then drops off into coverage, great athletic play to intercept + return 20 yards
- always be hustling - fumble recovery after Will Harris forces the ball out
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Speaking of Justin, anything to see here? Teams usually can't support 3 RBs, but he seems to be carving out a role with Swift getting so few touches.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Alim McNeill named Defensive Player of the Week
Three weeks ago they were 1-6 and statistically they were the worst defense of the millennium
Now we’re 4-6 and have had the DPotW two the last three weeks
Three weeks ago they were 1-6 and statistically they were the worst defense of the millennium
Now we’re 4-6 and have had the DPotW two the last three weeks
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
D’Andre is essentially the CoP back rn
Justin ran hard got rewarded with a season high 24 snaps
Last 3:
JW 36-24-30
DS 9-18-20
JJ 12-16-24
JC (FB) x-12-26
It ain’t broke
That said, gonna be fun having Jamo running around soon - could really see this offense taking off
(31 two of the last three and five times on the year, not complaining - I think Ben Johnson is killing it)
The defense is the reason they’re winning. Would be great, though, if we just stuck with run heavy, move the chains with ARSB, and send Jameson on the occasional 9 route when they stack the box.
I would not say the defense is why they are winning. The defense was why we were 1-6, historically pitiful. The last three games they were finally pulling their weight and making some plays which is what the offense needs out of them.
I got persecuted online during preseason for suggesting Justin Jackson was our best RB. His career numbers were notably better than Swift's. Besides the injuries, I just never bought into Swift being one of the NFL's best backs. Never saw great running instincts. Swift was handed an awesome opportunity to run behind an elite OL, and could not hold up.
Watching Jamo will be really fun.
Moonlight
Footballguy
In the last three games Lions have had more sacks, committed fewer penalties and created more turnovers than their opponent. All three of these games have been victories.
This despite being outgained by 135 yds (GB), 85 (Chi), 85 (NY). Being consistently out gained by your opponents is not a good predictor for long term success.
Buffalo's offense particularly its WRs are so much better than our last three opponents. This combined with Josh Allen's running will likely outmatch our defense.
Buffalo and the Lions are in the top third for fewest penalties. The Lions penalty rate has been a source for optimism and can signify good coaching and intelligent players.
Lions' sacks on defense are tied for fifth fewest but on offense they have given up the third fewest sacks. Buffalo is also good on pass protection but generates more sacks on defense than the Lions.
Lions will need to win the turnover battle and the offense will need to score points to keep up for the Lions to have a chance. Expect that the Lions will again be significantly out gained.
Would also expect at least one trick play or fake from Campbell to keep up and also being on national stage. Hopefully, Campbell can keep it in his pants for most of the game. I really did not care for his declining a penalty last game that would have given the Giants a second down and 19 as opposed to a third and 7. That is just not a percentage move.
This despite being outgained by 135 yds (GB), 85 (Chi), 85 (NY). Being consistently out gained by your opponents is not a good predictor for long term success.
Buffalo's offense particularly its WRs are so much better than our last three opponents. This combined with Josh Allen's running will likely outmatch our defense.
Buffalo and the Lions are in the top third for fewest penalties. The Lions penalty rate has been a source for optimism and can signify good coaching and intelligent players.
Lions' sacks on defense are tied for fifth fewest but on offense they have given up the third fewest sacks. Buffalo is also good on pass protection but generates more sacks on defense than the Lions.
Lions will need to win the turnover battle and the offense will need to score points to keep up for the Lions to have a chance. Expect that the Lions will again be significantly out gained.
Would also expect at least one trick play or fake from Campbell to keep up and also being on national stage. Hopefully, Campbell can keep it in his pants for most of the game. I really did not care for his declining a penalty last game that would have given the Giants a second down and 19 as opposed to a third and 7. That is just not a percentage move.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
shoot - Jonah is in the protocol
really hope Evan Brown heals up so we're only missing one OG (Dan Skipper is a decent replacement)
otherwise we're looking at Kayode Awosika (has played 8 snaps) or Logan Stenberg (PFF grade 34.9 - think he had a 0.0 pass blocking grade last time he started)
really hope Evan Brown heals up so we're only missing one OG (Dan Skipper is a decent replacement)
otherwise we're looking at Kayode Awosika (has played 8 snaps) or Logan Stenberg (PFF grade 34.9 - think he had a 0.0 pass blocking grade last time he started)
| Player | Position | Injury | Monday* | Tuesday* | Wednesday | Game Status |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Evan Brown | C | ankle | NP | NP | ||
| Charles Harris | DL | groin | NP | NP | ||
| Jonah Jackson | G | concussion | NP | NP | ||
| Jeff Okudah | CB | concussion | NP | NP | ||
| Josh Paschal | DL | knee | NP | NP | ||
| DJ Chark | WR | ankle | LP | LP | ||
| Frank Ragnow | C | foot | NP | LP | ||
| Josh Reynolds | WR | back | NP | LP | ||
| Malcolm Rodriguez | LB | elbow | FP | FP | ||
| D'Andre Swift | RB | ankle/shoulder | FP | FP |
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
We'll be missing Okudah and Jonah for sure. Who knows with Evan Brown, maybe he gets in a practice tomorrow and guts it out.
Bills are going to be without their starting C, DE (last year's 1st round pick) and 2-time pro bowl MLB. Lost Micah Hyde for the year earlier.
It's that time of year, everybody is banged up. Lions are no worse off than most teams. Last year we were like 3rd in man games missed, this year we're middle of the pack.
If Brown misses the game i'm hoping they give the Nigerian kid from Buffalo a shot at the job. Logan sucks, let's see if the kid responds. Next man up.
LFG
Bills are going to be without their starting C, DE (last year's 1st round pick) and 2-time pro bowl MLB. Lost Micah Hyde for the year earlier.
It's that time of year, everybody is banged up. Lions are no worse off than most teams. Last year we were like 3rd in man games missed, this year we're middle of the pack.
If Brown misses the game i'm hoping they give the Nigerian kid from Buffalo a shot at the job. Logan sucks, let's see if the kid responds. Next man up.
LFG
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
copycat league
Lions stole this one right off the Giants film study (Big Blue has run 8 OL plays a few times)
Nelson at LT, normal interior 3, Sewell at his normal RT, THEN Decker outside of him, G Kayode Awosika outside of Decker, Brock Wright in the slot/flanker spot.
Just for good measure ARSB comes in from the outside rigfht to smack the DB
What are you going to do about it? (A: not much)
edit: linky
Lions stole this one right off the Giants film study (Big Blue has run 8 OL plays a few times)
Nelson at LT, normal interior 3, Sewell at his normal RT, THEN Decker outside of him, G Kayode Awosika outside of Decker, Brock Wright in the slot/flanker spot.
Just for good measure ARSB comes in from the outside rigfht to smack the DB
What are you going to do about it? (A: not much)
edit: linky
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Starters
NT 22 McNeill
DT 26 Buggs
ED 22 Hutchinson
DE 27 Cominsky
LB 23 Rodriguez
LB 28 Anzalone
CB 23 Okudah
CB 25 Jacobs
CB 26 W.Harris
SS 22 Joseph
FS 25 Elliott
average age 24.45
key defensive reserves
ED Bryant 26
LB Barnes 23
LB J.Okwara 24
CB M.Hughes 25
CB Oruwariye 26
average age 24.8
At final cutdown day, the Lions were the third youngest roster in the league at 25.1.
Listed above is the starting 11 versus the Giants and the reserves with the most snaps.
They were historically bad the first 8 weeks. With a mediocre defense we could have started 6-4, maybe even 7-3. But we didn’t & that’s not changing.
You know what is changing? Their ability to play together as a unit.
Their defense is growing up.
NT 22 McNeill
DT 26 Buggs
ED 22 Hutchinson
DE 27 Cominsky
LB 23 Rodriguez
LB 28 Anzalone
CB 23 Okudah
CB 25 Jacobs
CB 26 W.Harris
SS 22 Joseph
FS 25 Elliott
average age 24.45
key defensive reserves
ED Bryant 26
LB Barnes 23
LB J.Okwara 24
CB M.Hughes 25
CB Oruwariye 26
average age 24.8
At final cutdown day, the Lions were the third youngest roster in the league at 25.1.
Listed above is the starting 11 versus the Giants and the reserves with the most snaps.
They were historically bad the first 8 weeks. With a mediocre defense we could have started 6-4, maybe even 7-3. But we didn’t & that’s not changing.
You know what is changing? Their ability to play together as a unit.
Their defense is growing up.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Aidan Hutchinson name NFC Defensive Player of the Week
Nice, but Alim McNeill (the PFF DPotW) was more impactful
National media loves getting on the Lions' crank
Three wins and they think Campbell is Halas/Lombardi all rolled into one
national Power Rankings moved Detroit up like 8-10 spots last week
the internet might break if they upset the Bills
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This is a mind-blowing stat: The Bills have scored a single second-half touchdown since Week 6 vs. KC.
Week 7: bye
Week 8 vs. GB: 3 points (1 FG)
Week 9 vs. NYJ: 3 points (1 FG)
Week 10 vs. MIN: 6 points (2 FGs)
Week 11 vs. CLE: 18 points (4 FGs 1 TD)
Devin Singletary scored on a 5 yard rush, 2-point conversion failed.
Josh Allen has accounted for zero (0) second half touchdowns in the last 4 games.
Nice, but Alim McNeill (the PFF DPotW) was more impactful
National media loves getting on the Lions' crank
Three wins and they think Campbell is Halas/Lombardi all rolled into one
national Power Rankings moved Detroit up like 8-10 spots last week
the internet might break if they upset the Bills
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This is a mind-blowing stat: The Bills have scored a single second-half touchdown since Week 6 vs. KC.
Week 7: bye
Week 8 vs. GB: 3 points (1 FG)
Week 9 vs. NYJ: 3 points (1 FG)
Week 10 vs. MIN: 6 points (2 FGs)
Week 11 vs. CLE: 18 points (4 FGs 1 TD)
Devin Singletary scored on a 5 yard rush, 2-point conversion failed.
Josh Allen has accounted for zero (0) second half touchdowns in the last 4 games.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Goff is on The Ticket every Tuesday at 10:30. Not sure where this ends up but would love to see Lions have success with Goff. Very honest, and funny during his interviews, just seems like a great guy. Staffords interviews were all the same. Um..we played hard..um just got to keep working ..um
Goff tells exactly what is going on good and bad.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
He’s a good dude. But Kirk Cousibs is a good dude, too. Probably neither ever gonna win a ring as a starter.
People make fun of Cousins and his tower of rocks. Yeah, it’s morbid, but it’s 100% true. Our days are numbered, make the most of every one.
If I had a tower of rocks it would probably only have 240 or 360 stones left. Just one before I die, Lord. Just once. And we both know Jared is probably not an instrument of thy peace when it comes to the Lombardi Trophy.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
In the Super Bowl victory parade, may Goff turn away as a photographer falls off the stage onto you.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I went to the Wings victory parade in 1997 - 40 red Mustangs carrying all the players, coaches & owners. Few days earlier I had turned down a $500 front row seat game 4; McCarty after scoring his Cup winner was on the front page of the Free Press, and my buddy was 3 feet away pounding the glass.
The Bad Boys were so great in my late 20s. First title was a few months after I was honorably discharged. Watched every game on PASS.
Will never be anything like the Bless You Boys season. That had been progressing for years. Just a perfect wire to wire season.
I lost my voice during One for the Thumb. Remember my nephews, then in junior high, thinking me and their dad were lunatics. “Guys, it’s just one game.” You don’t get it; this might never happen again.
At the time, I thought I was kidding.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Well Goff has already played in a SuperBowl. Something no other Lion QB has ever done.
Goff may not be the final answer but if Lions draft a QB we could end up like Zack Wilson or Trey Lantz and starting over again. Pickett is not tearing it up. could be another 2-3 year process.
Who is out there as a fA that would be better? Lamar Jackson will be an UFA? Throw the $$$$ at him?
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Lamar will get tagged. But even if that were a realistic option, his deal would be an albatross to roster construction. Right back to trying to carry the huge Stafford & Suh contracts right before they restructured the rookie slotting.
IDK, gotta have faith Holmes will get it right. You’re absolutely right, he might whiff. Look at all the draft capital Chicago squandered on Trubisky. But it’s still the best path. IMO
Goff is adequate. Doesn’t elevate his teammates. He is nowhere near - not even close - to being the deep ball passer he was 4-5 years ago. Probably never will be.
I just don’t think he has the moxy to be a SB champ. Hard to define. You got it or you don’t. His confidence ebbs and flows.
I’m fine with him starting next year while they bring along the draft pick, but that’s a delicate thing to balance.
TartanLion
Footballguy
Wonder how much it would be to trade for Tyler Huntley ? Cheaper than first rounders, really liked what I saw from him in relief for Lamar.
I do wonder about Anthony Richardson given that Lamar/Fields/Hurts have all come into the league as underdeveloped guys with great running ability and all have flashed from great to at least very promising. Maybe could be had with the later 1st round pick or maybe even 2nd ? Richardson looks electric with his running and is a big dude as well. That kind of QB, with a great line, decent weapons and what looks to be a very good OC, could be dynamite if it went right
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I like Huntley. Has been around the NFL game awhile, put up pretty good numbers when Jackson was hurt. If Jackson signs a long term deal pretty sure Huntley will want out with a chance to make some cash himself.
What is he worth. A second rounder we got from Hock trade? i think so.
TartanLion
Footballguy
I’ve been thinking about Huntley to us ever since I saw him last season. I believe he’s a restricted free agent after this season, got to think a few teams will be looking at him. Like you say, and what I like as well, is that he’s been around the NFL for a while now, made some starts, been in a good organisation. His ceiling is too high to remain a backup as a 24 year old in his physical prime. Really good runner, arm for a deep ball and the short and intermediate stuff he flicks out of his wrist with minimal effort.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
It is gonna be so loud tomorrow.
The Detroit Lions are trending toward a crowd of more than 66,000 people tomorrow for the Thanksgiving Day game vs. Buffalo. That would track toward the potentially second-highest Lions game attendance in Ford Field history, behind the Chicago Bears game in 2011.
The Detroit Lions are trending toward a crowd of more than 66,000 people tomorrow for the Thanksgiving Day game vs. Buffalo. That would track toward the potentially second-highest Lions game attendance in Ford Field history, behind the Chicago Bears game in 2011.
The crowd will be a huge factor if the game is close.
Moonlight
Footballguy
Lions made more mistakes than Bills but played a strong game. Tough loss. Either the Bills are overrated, or we are underrated.
Lions again outgained. (75yds). Turnovers were even. Lions again had fewer penalties than opponent. Though the last penalty against Bryant was significant and dumb.
Thought Goff's throws were not as sharp after his very near INT and he may have lost some confidence thereafter.
Like to hear Campbell's explanation for his clock mgt. Looks like he didn't want to leave any time for Bills but they were shooting themselves in the foot on offense.
Lions continue to improve. Get some more talent on defense and we will be a contender.
Lions again outgained. (75yds). Turnovers were even. Lions again had fewer penalties than opponent. Though the last penalty against Bryant was significant and dumb.
Thought Goff's throws were not as sharp after his very near INT and he may have lost some confidence thereafter.
Like to hear Campbell's explanation for his clock mgt. Looks like he didn't want to leave any time for Bills but they were shooting themselves in the foot on offense.
Lions continue to improve. Get some more talent on defense and we will be a contender.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Sometimes when the Lions stay with a team that is better it's bc the other team made a bunch of mistakes.
I don't think the Bills played bad at all. The Lions played up to their level.
Thought Ben Johnson called a good game. In game comments were hilarious - people second guess no matter what they try. But instead of turtling up (as they typically do) they stayed aggressive. Kept pushing the ball downfield instead of settling for dump offs and short passes.
End game was a tricky balance - if they convert the pass to Chark then they have the time outs to take shots or run any play they want. They didn’t call them earlier bc they were trying to leave enough time to win but still preserve the FG opportunity to tie.
End of the day the Bills made one more play. Detroit overcame a lot of in game adversity (turnover, missed short FG) & kept battling. Losing sucks but their growth continues.
They can play with anyone.
I don't think the Bills played bad at all. The Lions played up to their level.
Thought Ben Johnson called a good game. In game comments were hilarious - people second guess no matter what they try. But instead of turtling up (as they typically do) they stayed aggressive. Kept pushing the ball downfield instead of settling for dump offs and short passes.
End game was a tricky balance - if they convert the pass to Chark then they have the time outs to take shots or run any play they want. They didn’t call them earlier bc they were trying to leave enough time to win but still preserve the FG opportunity to tie.
End of the day the Bills made one more play. Detroit overcame a lot of in game adversity (turnover, missed short FG) & kept battling. Losing sucks but their growth continues.
They can play with anyone.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Yeah the in game thread is basically made up of disgruntled fantasy owners blaming others for their own bad draft picks.
The thing I like most about this team is the young players are getting better week in and week out. And Brad Holmes has had 2 great drafts. That makes me extremely optimistic about next year's draft when we will have 5 picks in the first 3 rounds.
This team just needs more talent on defense to be a legit playoff contender. But I am very happy with how they are playing.
This team just needs more talent on defense to be a legit playoff contender. But I am very happy with how they are playing.
