Looks like they are going to needPeart sooner than later
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2022 New York Football Giants (under new management of Schoen & Daboll) (2 Viewers)
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The Big Donkey
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Yenrub
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Another close game thriller for the G-Men! This one seems to have been costly in terms of injuries. Neal, Bredeson and Bellinger all seem to have suffered injures that will keep them out for a while. I haven’t seen anything but it looked like Wan’Dale Robinson got hurt too.
Jones has improved on his ball security quite a bit this season (though he did get lucky with the interception being overturned by the roughing call). I have always said that Jones needs to use his legs 5-8 times a game to steal a few 1st downs and keep drives alive. He is doing even more than that now.
The defense gives up a ton of yards but somehow they keep the other teams out of the endzone and they keep the score close.
I’m enjoying the ride, they are fun to watch.
Jones has improved on his ball security quite a bit this season (though he did get lucky with the interception being overturned by the roughing call). I have always said that Jones needs to use his legs 5-8 times a game to steal a few 1st downs and keep drives alive. He is doing even more than that now.
The defense gives up a ton of yards but somehow they keep the other teams out of the endzone and they keep the score close.
I’m enjoying the ride, they are fun to watch.
Yenrub
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Neal appears to have a level 2 MCL sprain. Will miss some time https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1584572170973446145?s=20&t=o1qaiufl52Gzi3MiEQDuaQ
Bellinger suffered a fracture around his eye socket
Bellinger suffered a fracture around his eye socket
The hits just keep on coming.
My DABS t-shirt is on order.
The Big Donkey
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Giants GAME-WINNING TACKLE at the 1 yard line vs. Jaguars
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didn't catch this at the end of the game, but man, glad Julian Love is ok. pretty vicious hit from behind from #79 Luke Fortner.
Scummy move by Fortner .... Forward progress had long stopped and the pile was moving backwards. Cant tell from the Video but the play was probably whistled dead at that point. plus that should be considered a block in the back. Lowered his shoulder right into his lower backGiants GAME-WINNING TACKLE at the 1 yard line vs. Jaguars
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didn't catch this at the end of the game, but man, glad Julian Love is ok. pretty vicious hit from behind from #79 Luke Fortner.
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Giants schedule surgery for Daniel Bellinger, add tight end to practice squad
With rookie tight end Daniel Bellinger headed for eye surgery Thursday, the Giants signed a tight end to the practice squad.
"Giants rookie tight end Daniel Bellinger will undergo surgery Thursday to repair the fractured eye socket he sustained after being jabbed in the left eye by a Jaguars linebacker during Sunday’s game in Jacksonville. A source indicated that Bellinger is hopeful that he will be able to return this season and possibly as early as the team’s Thanksgiving game against the Cowboys in Dallas.
As expected, the Giants moved quickly to add a tight end to the roster Tuesday. The team signed Andre Miller to the practice squad to give themselves some depth at tight end....."
Yenrub
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Is this the same small school kid that was playing well in camp? I think he was a WR in collegeGiants schedule surgery for Daniel Bellinger, add tight end to practice squad
With rookie tight end Daniel Bellinger headed for eye surgery Thursday, the Giants signed a tight end to the practice squad.www.nj.com
"Giants rookie tight end Daniel Bellinger will undergo surgery Thursday to repair the fractured eye socket he sustained after being jabbed in the left eye by a Jaguars linebacker during Sunday’s game in Jacksonville. A source indicated that Bellinger is hopeful that he will be able to return this season and possibly as early as the team’s Thanksgiving game against the Cowboys in Dallas.
As expected, the Giants moved quickly to add a tight end to the roster Tuesday. The team signed Andre Miller to the practice squad to give themselves some depth at tight end....."
The Big Donkey
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yesIs this the same small school kid that was playing well in camp? I think he was a WR in collegeGiants schedule surgery for Daniel Bellinger, add tight end to practice squad
With rookie tight end Daniel Bellinger headed for eye surgery Thursday, the Giants signed a tight end to the practice squad.
"Giants rookie tight end Daniel Bellinger will undergo surgery Thursday to repair the fractured eye socket he sustained after being jabbed in the left eye by a Jaguars linebacker during Sunday’s game in Jacksonville. A source indicated that Bellinger is hopeful that he will be able to return this season and possibly as early as the team’s Thanksgiving game against the Cowboys in Dallas.
As expected, the Giants moved quickly to add a tight end to the roster Tuesday. The team signed Andre Miller to the practice squad to give themselves some depth at tight end....."
The Big Donkey
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@JordanRaanan: He’s back! Giants OL Nick Gates will be added to the active roster Wednesday, per source. His 21-day window on PUP expired today.
It’s the next step in an incredible comeback from gruesome leg injury. Gates needed 7 surgeries after fracturing his fibula + tibia Week 2 last year.
It’s the next step in an incredible comeback from gruesome leg injury. Gates needed 7 surgeries after fracturing his fibula + tibia Week 2 last year.
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Giants also start the clock on three players on Injured Reserve. OL Matt Peart, OLB Elerson Smith and CB Rodarius Williams all return to practice today.
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Giants also start the clock on three players on Injured Reserve. OL Matt Peart, OLB Elerson Smith and CB Rodarius Williams all return to practice today.
Giants’ QB Daniel Jones named NFC Offensive Player of the Week
Giants’ QB Daniel Jones named NFC Offensive Player of the Week
Quarterback honored after leading another come-from-behind victory
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Toney still not participating in practices
I really wish the Giants would get rid of him before the trade deadline but I guess nobody wants to get stuck with this headache
The Jets have 2 disgruntled WRs Mims and Elijah Moore who would both be better fits than Toney
Jeudy and Claypool are both said to be available ... swap or package Toney with a day 3 pick (.ie Toney and a 4th or 5th)
He's a 1st rd pick that has shown some talent ... Someone has to want him
Make it happen !!
I really wish the Giants would get rid of him before the trade deadline but I guess nobody wants to get stuck with this headache
The Jets have 2 disgruntled WRs Mims and Elijah Moore who would both be better fits than Toney
Jeudy and Claypool are both said to be available ... swap or package Toney with a day 3 pick (.ie Toney and a 4th or 5th)
He's a 1st rd pick that has shown some talent ... Someone has to want him
Make it happen !!
Yenrub
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Wish granted! Toney traded to KC for a 3rd and conditional 6
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The Big Donkey
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Daboll on Toney trade—“I thought it was best for team, on to Seattle.”
FairWarning
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So who are the winners in the NY WRs?
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
The WR group where not one of them has over 200 yards this year?
My pick would be Wan'dale.
Happy he's gone but not happy with the return. It's a compensatory 3rd which is essentially early 4th and a 6th.
Chiefs 6th rd pick is basically UDFA
The Giants are the winners ... addition by subtraction
No impact on the receivers ... Toney has 2 receptions for 0 yds on the season ... He probably has more penalty Yds then receiving yards
Somehow this team is winning despite themselves.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Losing a first round talent for a comp 3rd and a 6th isn't a win regardless.
1) He shouldn't have been a 1st rd pk
2) He hasnt performed like a 1st rd pick
3) He's a headache that doesn't want to play football
4) His Music SUX !!!!!
FairWarning
Footballguy
Sometimes it’s better to cut bait early and minimize the damage. The Cards did it with josh Rosen.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
"I've never even been a part of a 10-win team. I'm trying to do everything to get back out there." Kenny Golladay wants to get healthy and contribute to the Giants"
They have a GM now who actually understands how the business works. He threw out the abacus Gettleman had in his office.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Jaguars are already on record as saying they'd draft him if he got past the Giants later in the first. It's unfortunate he couldn't stay healthy but all in all it was a pick Giants didn't really need at the time and ultimately turned up as a waste. Everything else has no bearing on my point.
As far as damage not like he was a cancer in the locker room, he just was never around.
The Frankman
Footballguy
I really respect Kenny Golladay for how he's handled all the bashing. He makes one comment on how Daniel Jones can't get him the ball because Jones can't throw into tight windows last year, he's suddenly labeled a "diva". We don't know the extent of the surgery he had, but then people rip him for being unable to create separation (despite NEVER being a guy who creates separation, his whole game is winning contested catches on an elite level) and other false narratives. Throughout it all he didn't **** on the fanbase or anything, he just worked on the side and rehabbed like a true professional. He COULD have went to Golden Tate route (who told no lies
) but it wouldn't have been good for the team.
IrishTwinkie
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Unless I am misremembering, Toney was the pick that resulted after the Giants swapped picks with Chicago. Chicago picked Fields and the Giants traded down and got Toney. Dallas followed up the Chicago pick with Parsons...
In hindsight this is a massive blunder in the first round. As if we needed more evidence.
This is addition by subtraction. That draft capital was wasted the minute the Giants traded down. Its going to take years to recover from the near decade of GM-malpractice.
ETA: Ok, I dug in a little more. I forgot the Giants got multiple picks from that trade. They got Neal and Bellinger this year as part of that trade. So I suppose that takes a little of sting off from no picking Parsons. But it doesn't change my opinion about the Toney pick.
In hindsight this is a massive blunder in the first round. As if we needed more evidence.
This is addition by subtraction. That draft capital was wasted the minute the Giants traded down. Its going to take years to recover from the near decade of GM-malpractice.
ETA: Ok, I dug in a little more. I forgot the Giants got multiple picks from that trade. They got Neal and Bellinger this year as part of that trade. So I suppose that takes a little of sting off from no picking Parsons. But it doesn't change my opinion about the Toney pick.
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The Big Donkey
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Lot of talk that they wanted Devonta Smith at #11, Philly traded up with Dallas to take him at #10. Giants trade out of #11, Dallas takes Parsons at #12. Giants got played. I liked the trade down after Devonta was taken but Toney was a bad pick.
IrishTwinkie
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I can't say that I follow college football closely, outside of watching my daughter's college FCS team. So it isn't like I am some draft savant or anything. I just liked what I saw of Parsons when they were talking about him and was hoping they'd take a line backer. The giants line backers have stunk so bad that I figured this was an obvious pick. So I was (and apparently am) bitter about how it all went down.
I am glad Toney is gone. He certainly seemed like he didn't want to be on the team.
I am glad Toney is gone. He certainly seemed like he didn't want to be on the team.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
truth. you have to go back to 2006 (Antonio Pierce) and 2001 (Jesse Armstead) for that last pro bowlers on this team at that position. DeOssie made in 08' and 10' but that was a special teamer.
modogg
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both him and Claypool are such enigmas. hard to figure out what is holding both back, but i think if Toney is to have a career getting traded to a team like KC will show it.
I like that ... great attitude.I really respect Kenny Golladay for how he's handled all the bashing. He makes one comment on how Daniel Jones can't get him the ball because Jones can't throw into tight windows last year, he's suddenly labeled a "diva". We don't know the extent of the surgery he had, but then people rip him for being unable to create separation (despite NEVER being a guy who creates separation, his whole game is winning contested catches on an elite level) and other false narratives. Throughout it all he didn't **** on the fanbase or anything, he just worked on the side and rehabbed like a true professional. He COULD have went to Golden Tate route (who told no lies
A lot of people are saying the injury was more signficant than most people knew but Dumbazz Gettleman didnt care,
Would love to see him make it back ... the Golloday they thought they were getting is exactly what the Giants need right now
What an insult to Claypool ... Not sure why you would compare him to Toney ???? If Toney was 50% of what Claypool has been he'd still be a Giant and would easily be the best WR on the Giants.
Claypool had almost 900 yds and 9 tds a rookie??? Almost 900 yds last year ... he has 2000 yds and 12 TDs vs Toney 440 and 0 Tds ?
And Claypool was drafted late 2nd rd ... he been a great value
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Just a midseason PSA, we want the Saints to win that weak division (the eagles have their 1st rounder next year). Ravens win was nice tonight.
I dont know how the Eagles do it?? Every year they are good and ever year they have multiple 1st rd pcks
Snotbubbles
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The Eagles very well could get a haul for the Saints pick if it lands in the area where one of the top QBs are going to get drafted.
The Big Donkey
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Daniel Jones and the Giants Are Breaking Defenses
Daniel Jones highlights - The New York Giants are 6-1, and no one believes Brian Daboll's team is for real... except for us. Josh McCown and Josh Norris dive...
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Interesting vid, Josh McCown breaks down what DJ and the offense are doing. about 40 minutes long.
The Big Donkey
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Jeremy Fowler
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#Giants TE Daniel Bellinger underwent successful surgery to correct fractures on lower window of eye socket and damage to septum, per source. Player hopes to return in 2-6 weeks, but separate source says 4-6 weeks could be more reasonable, depending on healing.
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#Giants TE Daniel Bellinger underwent successful surgery to correct fractures on lower window of eye socket and damage to septum, per source. Player hopes to return in 2-6 weeks, but separate source says 4-6 weeks could be more reasonable, depending on healing.
IrishTwinkie
Footballguy
I thought I saw that there was a Daboll link with Jeudy. So it seems that it is a known entity for a position group that needs a lot of help. I'll try to find the article again.
ETA:
Giants’ Kadarius Toney trade could be setting up Jerry Jeudy pursuit
There is a feeling around the league that the Giants could be adding NFL Draft capital to make sure they can compete in the sweepstakes if the Broncos make former first-round pick Jerry Jeudy avail…
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Daboll was offensive coordinator at Alabama Jeudy's freshman year
Disgusting !! Giants looked absolutely pathetic today ... 6-11 is not out of the questions
I've never seen so many players look so indecisive with he ball in their hands as I did today
Barkley was horrible indecisive and went down like he was about 150lb RB! James disgustingly bad indecisive and baby hands! Jones ran at all of the wrong times and didnt run when he should have! That Terrible TE Tanner Hudson ... didnt know to get out of bounds twice!! Marcus Johnson cant catch anything 1 of 6 targets and all of them hit hom in the hands.
Also, and I hate to say it, Kayvon Thibodeaux kinda sux. He runs full speed around the blockers and takes himself out of the play. He has no power or pass rush skill and relies 100% on speed rush
Thank God for the Bye week ... Giants need to get WR help somehow
I've never seen so many players look so indecisive with he ball in their hands as I did today
Barkley was horrible indecisive and went down like he was about 150lb RB! James disgustingly bad indecisive and baby hands! Jones ran at all of the wrong times and didnt run when he should have! That Terrible TE Tanner Hudson ... didnt know to get out of bounds twice!! Marcus Johnson cant catch anything 1 of 6 targets and all of them hit hom in the hands.
Also, and I hate to say it, Kayvon Thibodeaux kinda sux. He runs full speed around the blockers and takes himself out of the play. He has no power or pass rush skill and relies 100% on speed rush
Thank God for the Bye week ... Giants need to get WR help somehow
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