2023 New York Jets (1 Viewer)

[Kiddnets]

Only a few days away - some updated items

Vegas is shifting to Traveon Walker to go #1 - fallout would be interesting - still possible for the top 3 DEs to go 1-2-3 but I think there is at least one surprise where an OL or even QB sneaks into the top 3.  

JD really runs a tight ship - Ive seen nothing more than speculation - he did such a good job in FA that there is no glaring need and he could go many different directions

The longer the Deebo saga drags out the better it is for the JEts IMO - he simply isnt in the same class or pedigree as Hill IMO - I can see JD making an offer but not a crazy one and Deebo really wanting to go to SF East so maybe they get him without giving up the #10  or a mega offer - I'd really be ok either way.  It would be nice to get a big time weapon like Deebo who is ready now but I also really like a few of the WRs that would be available - so rare time that Im ok either way it breaks.  

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Only a few days away - some updated items

Vegas is shifting to Traveon Walker to go #1 - fallout would be interesting - still possible for the top 3 DEs to go 1-2-3 but I think there is at least one surprise where an OL or even QB sneaks into the top 3.  

JD really runs a tight ship - Ive seen nothing more than speculation - he did such a good job in FA that there is no glaring need and he could go many different directions

The longer the Deebo saga drags out the better it is for the JEts IMO - he simply isnt in the same class or pedigree as Hill IMO - I can see JD making an offer but not a crazy one and Deebo really wanting to go to SF East so maybe they get him without giving up the #10  or a mega offer - I'd really be ok either way.  It would be nice to get a big time weapon like Deebo who is ready now but I also really like a few of the WRs that would be available - so rare time that Im ok either way it breaks.  

I'd be shocked if the 1.10 is on table knowing JD. I think it's just people trying to "connect dots" and one person says "they'll offer pick 10" and other sources run with it.

Obviously it could happen, but I think taking a WR with the pick  and locking in a rookie deal is the much smarter approach. I like Deebo  a lot, but think he's being a bit over-rated.

 

[Kiddnets]

I'd be shocked if the 1.10 is on table knowing JD. I think it's just people trying to "connect dots" and one person says "they'll offer pick 10" and other sources run with it.

Obviously it could happen, but I think taking a WR with the pick  and locking in a rookie deal is the much smarter approach. I like Deebo  a lot, but think he's being a bit over-rated.

agreed - when it came out the Jets were in on Tyreek everyone assumed it was for the #10 and shocked when it was "only" 2 second rders - I like Deebo but besides being younger there is no way he is close to the pedigree on Tyreek.  JD knows this - I wouldnt be upset if he dealt the #10 for Deebo as I do like him a lot - but knowing JD's history of being a tough as nails negotiator I think his offer is less.  SF homers are assuming they'll get a king's ransom for Deebo but I just dont see it.  

Also keep in mind not a ton of teams can afford Deebo's contract demands - have enough draft capital to get a deal done - offer a place that is attractive to him along with getting paid and is out of the conference for SF to deal him

I think if a deal gets done it will be better than what has been reported - but I also can see JD sitting pat - great spot to be in.  

 

[Kiddnets]

more Jameson hype - he's not going to last to #10 - if they dont land Deebo I wouldnt be shocked if they grab him at #4 -  At worst hes going to push down another top WR if he goes early - Id love him at #10 though!  

The Athletic's Bruce Feldman reports an NFL wide receivers coach likened Alabama WR Jameson Williams' speed to Tyreek Hill's. 

The receivers coach said Williams is the draft's top wideout and "it's not close." "He’s blazing fast and you can’t replicate that top-end, and his play speed is different  — like Tyreek Hill different — he’s running away from SEC guys," the coach told Feldman. "His explosiveness after the catch is rare. His quickness at the line of scrimmage is just different." Williams, who posted a mind boggling 4.3 40-yard dash and an 84th percentile speed score, had 19.9 yards per reception in 2021, the highest mark among pass catchers with at least 50 targets. Scouts and NFL coaches told Feldman they admired Williams' competitiveness on game day and in practice, and see him as the receiver with the most upside in the 2022 draft class. Williams, of course, is recovering from an ACL injury headed into the draft. NBC Sports' Peter King has Williams going to the Jets with the tenth pick in this week's draft. Meanwhile. NBC Sports Edge's Thor Nystrom projects Williams as the class' fourth best wideout

 

[TLEF316]

yeah, I'm right in the same boat. I'm not losing sleep if they give up #10 for Deebo, but I'm not over the moon for the move. If he doesn't want to continue to run the ball, is he still an all-pro caliber player? Hard to say.

And if he's not that level as a pure WR....can the Jets do better taking Wilson or Williams (IMO, the 2 best WR's in the draft. I'm not really a London guy) at 10 and paying them a rookie deal?

Tough spot. But I think I'd still give them #10 if that's their walkaway price. Have to give Zach every potential resource to succeed.

 

[TLEF316]

That being said.....its not like the trading season ends on Thursday. If you think Deebo is going to continue to be a malcontent, maybe you gamble and wait them out. Bet on the potential of your team NOT being one of the worst 10 next year....allowing you to keep your top 10 pick and give them a (hopefully) lower first rounder next year.

Of course, that would mean passing on a WR in the draft...which would obviously be somewhat risky (although not disastrous, as the Jets still have 3 very competent WR's and a vastly improved TE room)

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

SF homers are assuming they'll get a king's ransom for Deebo but I just dont see it.  
 

not at all. I posted what a sports writer said, which was that the expectation was it would take a king’s ransom to pry him away. He was basing that on what he believed the Niners would want, since they’ve made it clear they’re not keen on trading him.

i didn’t say I expected to get a king’s ransom. 

Those are very different things.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Jets “all-In” on trading for Deebo?

 

[sheerterror]

So according to McShay, Linderbaum and Karalaftis are expected to fall to the second round.

Can we pull off:
Sauce
Jameson Williams
Karalaftis
Linderbaum

with 4, 10, 35, 38????

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Jets “all-In” on trading for Deebo?

If KNBR says so....

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If KNBR says so....

I’m just posting the news bro. Don’t shoot the messenger.  

 
 

also, this was according to Pro Football Network’s Tony Pauline.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I’m just posting the news bro. Don’t shoot the messenger.  

 

You'd be a very busy guy if you copied and pasted the link every time you saw it out there. One site posts some speculation and all of a sudden every news link picks up on those rumors and further promulgates it.

I have yet to see one quote from anyone associated with the Jets - but have seen plenty of SF fan sites talk about the haul they're gonna get. This is 100% based on the Jets going in on Hill and Miami ending up with him. I think there's truth to the fact that the Jets want to add a WR to help out Zach - but right now it's likely just "dot connecting" based on that.

I've seen about 375 tweets and news stories saying this is happening - I'll believe it when I see it happen - not when I get story # 376 for KNBR.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

You'd be a very busy guy if you copied and pasted the link every time you saw it out there. One site posts some speculation and all of a sudden every news link picks up on those rumors and further promulgates it.

I have yet to see one quote from anyone associated with the Jets - but have seen plenty of SF fan sites talk about the haul they're gonna get. This is 100% based on the Jets going in on Hill and Miami ending up with him. I think there's truth to the fact that the Jets want to add a WR to help out Zach - but right now it's likely just "dot connecting" based on that.

I've seen about 375 tweets and news stories saying this is happening - I'll believe it when I see it happen - not when I get story # 376 for KNBR.

lol - of course I’m going to see the local news links.

I agree with your premise. This is all about the swing & miss on Hill (weren’t they rumored to be after another FA WR as well?)

But again, this wasn’t something KNBR reported. It was Pro Football Network’s Tony Pauline who reported it. KNBR just picked it up. 

 

[TLEF316]

Yeah....pretty easy to connect the dots here. Jets went in on Hill. They inquired about Ridley.  They have extra picks and plenty of cap space. Add in the fact that the Jets regime is familiar with Deebo and its not exactly a thin limb to go out on.

But zero chance the Jets are going to give up some sort of treasure trove of picks to get the guy. Even with youth on his side and the great season he had last year, I dont think he's the offense changing presence that Hill is. Pretty sure Hill is #1 on the list of skill players that NFL DC's fear. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Yeah....pretty easy to connect the dots here. Jets went in on Hill. They inquired about Ridley.  They have extra picks and plenty of cap space. Add in the fact that the Jets regime is familiar with Deebo and its not exactly a thin limb to go out on.

But zero chance the Jets are going to give up some sort of treasure trove of picks to get the guy. 

A single 1st this year and maybe a 2nd next year might be possible though.

FWIW I don’t actually think this will happen.

here’s 49ers GM John Lynch:

“told reporters in his pre-draft press conference that he will not talk about Deebo Samuel because it's not productive and not in the best interest of anyone.

He later adds: "I can't ever imagine wanting to move on from Deebo. ... He's too good of a player."

Pretty sure the 49er will do whatever they can to keep Deebo a 49er. 

But it’s fun to wonder about the possibilities. Personally I think Deebo would be a fantastic fit on the Jets. 

 

[TLEF316]

A single 1st this year and maybe a 2nd next year might be possible though.

FWIW I don’t actually think this will happen.

here’s 49ers GM John Lynch:

“told reporters in his pre-draft press conference that he will not talk about Deebo Samuel because it's not productive and not in the best interest of anyone.

He later adds: "I can't ever imagine wanting to move on from Deebo. ... He's too good of a player."

Pretty sure the 49er will do whatever they can to keep Deebo a 49er. 

But it’s fun to wonder about the possibilities. Personally I think Deebo would be a fantastic fit on the Jets. 

My answer to that package would be a respectful "no thank you" if I'm Douglas.

I know he's 3 years older, but look at what Davante Adams (Who is the superior player) cost in comparison.

The trade value of the package GB got (picks 22 and 53) was 1150 (per the traditional Jimmy Johnson chart).  The #10 pick alone is worth 1300.

The value of the Tyreke Hill package was roughly 1100 as well (depending on where the late round 2023 picks they got fall in the order next year)

 

[Dr. Octopus]

lol - of course I’m going to see the local news links.

I agree with your premise. This is all about the swing & miss on Hill (weren’t they rumored to be after another FA WR as well?)

But again, this wasn’t something KNBR reported. It was Pro Football Network’s Tony Pauline who reported it. KNBR just picked it up. 

Same "source" as the article Wingnut posted yesterday from some SF Fansite - that one also said SF would get "a boatload" in return. 

It's just some talking head speculating and people run with it was "news". It's not. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

My answer to that package would be a respectful "no thank you" if I'm Douglas.

I know he's 3 years older, but look at what Davante Adams (Who is the superior player) cost in comparison.

The trade value of the package GB got (picks 22 and 53) was 1150 (per the traditional Jimmy Johnson chart).  The #10 pick alone is worth 1300.

There were also quite a few more WR available at the time of that trade. 

Hill’s a Dolphin, Adams is a Packer. 

Deebo’s value is in a vacuum right now. The Jets need a WR. Clearly they prefer a plug & play veteran to a rookie.

Well, that has a price. And if it’s Deebo Samuel, it’s going to be a steep one. And whatever Adams or Hill commanded is completely irrelevant at this point.

Your logic works for a fantasy football trade, not a real life one. 

Again, I am skeptical it happens, but if it does, expect the price to be substantial. 

 

[Dr. Octopus]

There were also quite a few more WR available at the time of that trade. 

Hill’s a Dolphin, Adams is a Packer. 

Ummmm....no one knew Adams was available until after the trade was completed (and since he only wanted to go to Las Vegas, not sure how that's relevant) and no one knew Hill was available until about 20 minutes before the trade.

 

[TLEF316]

There were also quite a few more WR available at the time of that trade. 

Hill’s a Dolphin, Adams is a Packer. 

Deebo’s value is in a vacuum right now. The Jets need a WR. Clearly they prefer a plug & play veteran to a rookie.

Well, that has a price. And if it’s Deebo Samuel, it’s going to be a steep one. And whatever Adams or Hill commanded is completely irrelevant at this point.

Your logic works for a fantasy football trade, not a real life one. 

Again, I am skeptical it happens, but if it does, expect the price to be substantial. 

By that same logic....Deebo has basically come out and demanded a trade.(not that SF is in any way required to give in and do it) Its been publicly reported and that hurts SF's leverage.   The Hill trade market materialized in hours. From what I remember, the Adams trade literally came out of nowhere (everyone fully believed he'd be back in GB after Rodgers re-upped)

Obviously no point going back and forth on this (its not like there's some concrete price for this...its whatever the teams agree to). But I'd very surprised if Douglas gave up anything more than the #10 pick for Samuel (and it might not even be that).

And if this stretches past Thursday (which seems likely, as SF still contends that they're not trading him) then obviously all bets are off. (since any pick they trade for would be speculative and not bring back any dividends for an entire year)

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Clearly they prefer a plug & play veteran to a rookie.

Nothing is "clear" it's all just speculation and "connecting dots". They literally made a offer for Hill and as far as we know KC approached them - what other WRs have they made an offer for? 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Nothing is "clear" it's all just speculation and "connecting dots". They literally made a offer for Hill and as far as we know KC approached them - what other WRs have they made an offer for? 

Seems pretty clear to me considering they were after Ridley, and then Hill. If they weren't, why not just draft a rookie WR at 10? 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

By that same logic....Deebo has basically come out and demanded a trade.(not that SF is in any way required to give in and do it) Its been publicly reported and that hurts SF's leverage.   The Hill trade market materialized in hours. From what I remember, the Adams trade literally came out of nowhere (everyone fully believed he'd be back in GB after Rodgers re-upped)

Obviously no point going back and forth on this (its not like there's some concrete price for this...its whatever the teams agree to). But I'd very surprised if Douglas gave up anything more than the #10 pick for Samuel (and it might not even be that).

And if this stretches past Thursday (which seems likely, as SF still contends that they're not trading him) then obviously all bets are off. (since any pick they trade for would be speculative and not bring back any dividends for an entire year)

I don't disagree with anything you've said. That said, there's a lot of smoke for there to be no fire. 

I'd be shocked if the Jets weren't at least kicking the tires on such a trade, and if I were a Jets fan I'd be disappointed if they weren't at least putting feelers out.  I think it's a bit premature to dismiss all of the reporting as wishful thinking by Bay Area media as @Dr. Octopus seems to be doing. 

And as I've now said a couple of times, I think (and hope) that Deebo stays a 49er. They need him as much as the Jets do, and for pretty much the same reasons....young QBs need experience WRs. Just as Deebo would be a boon to Wilson, so would he be to Lance. 

As a Wilson dynasty owner I'd love to see them get Deebo, but as a 49ers fan it would be with mixed feelings to see him go. 

My gut tells me that this is all still negotiating tactics from Team Deebo to squeeze every drop of cash they can out of SF. But I'm cynical like that. 

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Seems pretty clear to me considering they were after Ridley, and then Hill. If they weren't, why not just draft a rookie WR at 10? 

They were after Ridley? I remember Ridley requesting a trade - and him pulled from the market almost immediately because the gambling story broke. Did the Jets make an offer? Did they go after him or answer a phone call?

I'm not saying the Jets wouldn't want to add a WR - I mean I do know they made an offer for Hill. I'm sure they would have some interest in Deebo as well - I'm just not sure Douglas is willing to come close to what SF fans expect. I mean if that ends up happening and they give this year's 10 (plus more) I will be surprised - but I've seen the Jets do plenty of dumb things before.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'd be shocked if the Jets weren't at least kicking the tires on such a trade, and if I were a Jets fan I'd be disappointed if they weren't at least putting feelers out.  I think it's a bit premature to dismiss all of the reporting as wishful thinking by Bay Area media as @Dr. Octopus seems to be doing. 

I have not been doing that. Maybe re-read what I've written. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I have not been doing that. Maybe re-read what I've written. 

I did. It seemed to me you were saying there was nothing to any of these reports, that they're all baseless rumors. 

Did I misunderstand? Please clarify then what this means: 

Same "source" as the article Wingnut posted yesterday from some SF Fansite - that one also said SF would get "a boatload" in return. 

It's just some talking head speculating and people run with it was "news". It's not. 

talking head speculating? Not News? 

Seems like I understood you perfectly. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

They were after Ridley? I remember Ridley requesting a trade - and him pulled from the market almost immediately because the gambling story broke. Did the Jets make an offer? Did they go after him or answer a phone call?

No idea about the details, but the reports were that there was a deal in place at the time of the suspension, but the Falcons pulled it (which was an honorable thing to do). 

I'm not saying the Jets wouldn't want to add a WR - I mean I do know they made an offer for Hill. I'm sure they would have some interest in Deebo as well - I'm just not sure Douglas is willing to come close to what SF fans expect. I mean if that ends up happening and they give this year's 10 (plus more) I will be surprised - but I've seen the Jets do plenty of dumb things before.

Agreed on all points, and said as much above. I think the Jets want a receiver with proven talent to add to the mix. I don't know to what extent they'd be willing to pay for that, and I personally don't think it's going to happen. 

But it might. 

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'm getting close to getting suspended again.

I did. It seemed to me you were saying there was nothing to any of these reports, that they're all baseless rumors. 

Did I misunderstand? Please clarify then what this means: 

talking head speculating? Not News? 

Seems like I understood you perfectly. 

I said they are taking one speculative report and running with it. That isn't news - maybe it was the first time - not the 357 other times - and any speculation on a "boatload" of picks is likely wishful thinking.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I'm getting close to getting suspended again.

or, hear me out, you could take a calm and mature approach in responding to me.  It’s an option.  

I said they are taking one speculative report and running with it. That isn't news - maybe it was the first time - not the 357 other times - and any speculation on a "boatload" of picks is likely wishful thinking.

And I agreed with you about that. 

But you’re not saying anything different here than I asserted. 

Cheers. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Nice topic title. lol.

no SF Homers are brokering anything. We’re reading the same stuff you are. 

 

[Dr. Octopus]

And just so it’s clear. I’m in no way saying SF and the Jets haven’t had any discussions. I would guess they have. I’m saying Paulino doesn’t really know and was likely speculating and “connecting dots” and other outlets run with it. The same story just keeps getting kicked around and no one has really said anything definitive- sports media just needs things to report so it gets kicked around and around.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

And just so it’s clear. I’m in no way saying SF and the Jets haven’t had any discussions. I would guess they have. I’m saying Paulino doesn’t really know and was likely speculating and “connecting dots” and other outlets run with it. The same story just keeps getting kicked around and no one has really said anything definitive- sports media just needs things to report so it gets kicked around and around.

That’s fair, and I agree. I’m sure they’ve spoken about it. I’m also sure that the news media loves to make mountains out of molehills.

We’ll collectively find out very soon what the real deal is. 

Personally, I hope Deebo gets paid by the 49ers. Back up the Brink‘s truck, because he is worth it.
 

on that note, I disagree with those downplaying Deebo Samuels ability, saying he’s not a special player, or not on Tyreek Hill’s level. They are entirely different types of receivers, and for what Deebo Samuel is, he is incredibly good at football. Any team  would love to have a Deebo Samuel.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

That’s fair, and I agree. I’m sure they’ve spoken about it. I’m also sure that the news media loves to make mountains out of molehills.

We’ll collectively find out very soon what the real deal is. 

Personally, I hope Deebo gets paid by the 49ers. Back up the Brink‘s truck, because he is worth it.
 

on that note, I disagree with those downplaying Deebo Samuels ability, saying he’s not a special player, or not on Tyreek Hill’s level. They are entirely different types of receivers, and for what Deebo Samuel is, he is incredibly good at football. Any team  would love to have a Deebo Samuel.

Saying Hill is much better is not an insult to Samuel. I think most think he’s very good. Personally I’d question if he’s worth giving a boatload if picks and then having to pay him like a top WR. I’d much rather draft one - and I know the risks there of course.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Saying Hill is much better is not an insult to Samuel. I think most think he’s very good.

From a RL football perspective, an argument could be made that Deebo is better than Hill. He’s a big bodied receiver where Hill is slight of build.

While Hill has pretty much put to bed the belief that he’s a 1-trick pony, and has shown plenty of toughness over the middle, I don’t think anyone would argue that Hill is tougher than Deebo when it comes to taking contact. 

They’re just completely different types of players. 

I don’t see a huge difference in value between the two. Put Deebo on the Chiefs with Mahomes and this is probably a different conversation. 

But this is off topic, so…

 

[Kiddnets]

From a RL football perspective, an argument could be made that Deebo is better than Hill. He’s a big bodied receiver where Hill is slight of build.

While Hill has pretty much put to bed the belief that he’s a 1-trick pony, and has shown plenty of toughness over the middle, I don’t think anyone would argue that Hill is tougher than Deebo when it comes to taking contact. 

They’re just completely different types of players. 

I don’t see a huge difference in value between the two. Put Deebo on the Chiefs with Mahomes and this is probably a different conversation. 

But this is off topic, so…

Deebo's usage and injury history scares me - dude is a beast but I dont think he has the career that Tyreek does - cant see him staying healthy at current usage which is why he wants a big contract - cant blame him

Id be very happy to have him but like Doc says - its one thing to pay the guy ala SF - its another to give up valuable assets to pay the guy op 5 WR $.  As said Id be very happy to get him but hope JD is playing hard ball and am more than fine with passing if they are asking for too much.  

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Deebo's usage and injury history scares me - dude is a beast but I dont think he has the career that Tyreek does -

He reminds me of Keenen Allen a lot as a player. I love(d) Allen but that playing style leads to getting banged up a lot and Samuel has had some injuries already. I'd love for the Jets to get him. I would hope it would be less than they offered for Hill. I'd hate the contract they would have to give him, but I'd live with it.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Deebo's usage and injury history scares me - dude is a beast but I dont think he has the career that Tyreek does - cant see him staying healthy at current usage which is why he wants a big contract - cant blame him

Id be very happy to have him but like Doc says - its one thing to pay the guy ala SF - its another to give up valuable assets to pay the guy op 5 WR $.  As said Id be very happy to get him but hope JD is playing hard ball and am more than fine with passing if they are asking for too much.  

I don’t disagree. I think he he was on a team that didn’t have the deficiencies that SF had he could be used as a more traditional WR and be extremely productive, while also avoiding the injuries that getting into 7-9 car crashes a week causes.

In that scenario he’s more like a hybrid TE/WR than he would be a “Wideback” (I hate that word. lol) 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

He reminds me of Keenen Allen a lot as a player. I love(d) Allen but that playing style leads to getting banged up a lot and Samuel has had some injuries already. I'd love for the Jets to get him. I would hope it would be less than they offered for Hill. I'd hate the contract they would have to give him, but I'd live with it.

No question he’d be helpful in developing Wilson. 

 

[efactor]

If KNBR says so....

What a bunch of goofs on that station.  Larry Krueger was the only exception and I think he left, but I never listen to them anymore, so not sure he followed through 

Last place I would go for anything on the Niners

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

What a bunch of goofs on that station.  Larry Krueger was the only exception and I think he left, but I never listen to them anymore, so not sure he followed through 

Last place I would go for anything on the Niners

I saw it on the Twitter r/t’d by one of the Niners beat guys. 

and once again, KNBR was repeating a story from Pro Football Network’s Tony Pauline.

Not that I’m defending KNBR, but it’s kinda dumb to bash them when all they did was post someone else’s piece. 

Also, Tom Tolbert is great, and is still on the air. 

I liked Krueger back in the day, but he was fired for comments about the Filipe Alou led SF Giants, where he said they were taking ABs like, “a bunch of free-swinging Caribbeans” 

This did not sit well with MLB, or ownership, and he was eventually fired for it.  Alou personally complained to the radio station, as he was personally offended. 

 

[efactor]

I saw it on the Twitter r/t’d by one of the Niners beat guys. 

and once again, KNBR was repeating a story from Pro Football Network’s Tony Pauline.

Not that I’m defending KNBR, but it’s kinda dumb to bash them when all they did was post someone else’s piece. 

Also, Tom Tolbert is great, and is still on the air. 

I liked Krueger back in the day, but he was fired for comments about the Filipe Alou led SF Giants, where he said they were taking ABs like, “a bunch of free-swinging Caribbeans” 

This did not sit well with MLB, or ownership, and he was eventually fired for it.  Alou personally complained to the radio station, as he was personally offended. 

Well, for the record, I didn't bash them for repeating a post.  Just pointed out they suck IMO

Tom Tolbert being great is a stretch, unless he has gotten much better in the last 3-4 years which is when I just couldn't listen anymore.  

Kruger knew his football and stuck to the subject.  Plus him and Radnich had a good back and forth.  Tolbert was constantly trying to be a comedian (again talking in past tense) and Murph and Mac show was unlistenable.  How those two bores stay on the air in a major media market is a mystery.  

Was listening when a caller accused Radnich of being a racist and anti-black.  Radnich pointed out that probably wasn't the case since he was married to an African American woman.  

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Well, for the record, I didn't bash them for repeating a post.  Just pointed out they suck IMO

Tom Tolbert being great is a stretch, unless he has gotten much better in the last 3-4 years which is when I just couldn't listen anymore.  

Kruger knew his football and stuck to the subject.  Plus him and Radnich had a good back and forth.  Tolbert was constantly trying to be a comedian (again talking in past tense) and Murph and Mac show was unlistenable.  How those two bores stay on the air in a major media market is a mystery.  

Was listening when a caller accused Radnich of being a racist and anti-black.  Radnich pointed out that probably wasn't the case since he was married to an African American woman.  

I’m with you on Myron & Mac. And Tolbert actually has improved since Razor retired (due to disease, IIRC).

i was never a Murph & Mac guy.

95.7 is a million times better than KNBR.  I agree KNBR isn’t great. I just like to be fair directing criticism. All good. 

 

[Mister CIA]

Win/win? This is Mike Lynn levels of bad. EDIT: Referring specifically to her 49er/Jets trade suggestion.

https://www.nfl.com/news/2022-nfl-draft-win-win-trade-scenarios-in-round-1

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Win/win? This is Mike Lynn levels of bad. EDIT: Referring specifically to her 49er/Jets trade suggestion.

https://www.nfl.com/news/2022-nfl-draft-win-win-trade-scenarios-in-round-1

LMAO! Sign me up for that action!!!!

 

 

[farfromforgotten]

I hereby petition that Cynthia Frelund be added into the thread title. 

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Win/win? This is Mike Lynn levels of bad. EDIT: Referring specifically to her 49er/Jets trade suggestion.

https://www.nfl.com/news/2022-nfl-draft-win-win-trade-scenarios-in-round-1

LOL.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I hereby petition that Cynthia Frelund be added into the thread title. 

I would break my TV if the Jets were dumb enough to include Moore in that deal - I’d be mad enough if it was just the picks.
 

Actually I will go on record and say I will officially give up on this team if that trade was real. 

Thats the most laughable deal I’ve seen so far - see how stupid all of this is? Can’t wait for the draft to finally get here.

By tomorrow the Jets will be throwing in the Statue of Liberty.

 

[TLEF316]

Lol at that deal. Might as well just throw in AVT, both Michael carters and a roll in the hay with Zach Wilson's girlfriend while they're at it

 

[Kiddnets]

This is what happens when a GM runs a tight ship like JD - there are no leaks to run with so you get to see how clueless some of these reporters are with these trade ideas.  hysterical

 

[Dr. Octopus]

This is what happens when a GM runs a tight ship like JD - there are no leaks to run with so you get to see how clueless some of these reporters are with these trade ideas.  hysterical

...and some fans on the other side actually start to believe the nonsense of what they're getting back.

I mean I get the Jets reputation around the league and it's surely well deserved, but if we just look at the Douglas era, he's shown to be more than competent in his trade negotiations and has not shown any inkling that he does things in desperation.