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2023 New York Jets (10 Viewers)
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
A-Z, maybe it’s just alphabetical order.
He’s had a trash defenses his whole career. This is a great fit for both player and team.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
I cant imagine Carr moving that quickly - I figure it will be a week but you never know. Personally I want Rodgers but if Carr is pushing for a deal now and they are not able to wait until A-Rod takes his "trip" - I sign Carr. The fact that Arod has to go through this to even commit to playing 1 more year throws a bunch of flags - never mind the big comp it will take to get him.
Jets QB literally couldnt complete the simplest of passes - Carr would be a massive upgrade.
He’s basically the only feee agent in the nfl now. He should have offers from the Saints, Jets, Panthers today and maybe the Texans or Falcons or Commanders too. I know it doesn’t always work that fast but it should in this case.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Carr would be an upgrade without a doubt, but he seems way too sensitive for the NY media jackals. He is really going to have to pray in overdrive to deal with those jerks.
I would imagine that he would take a week to meet with teams which should give the Jets a chance to maybe know what is going on with drama-queen Rodgers. Regardless, I would think that Carr would prefer going elsewhere.
Pure conjecture, but I think the Jets sniff around on Carr, but wait for Rodgers. Settle for Jimmy G if Rodgers isn't available or doesn't want to go to them. The fallback is Tannehill if he gets cut. Hello Brissett /Mike White if all that falls through. With our history of disappointment, it's not doubt going to be the latter after tons of off-season drama.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
There’s that plus his cold weather game struggles plus his lack of killer instinct on the field, which could surely make him another bust Jets QB. The saving grace is now no assets would need to be given up for him.
All those negatives and he’s still probably the second most attractive QB on the market. There’s a reason stud QBs don’t make it to the open market often.
We all kind of got excited about replacing Zac with a veteran. The wind is starting to leave those sales seeing what’s out there.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
They definitely all have warts and the possibility of imploding in NY. If anything, that just tells us how bad our QB situation is after blowing the #2 overall pick. As opposed to in the past, at least we have a pretty good team other than the QB position.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
I think Carr is going to want to do the grand tour since he has like a month head start - it is a great opportunity for him and after the way the Raiders ditched him he'll want to be wined and dined. If he signs really fast it will be a deal that you wouldn't be happy with since it would be a clear the decks kind of offer.
It definitely makes sense for you guys to lock up Carr when he is ready to sign if Rodgers is still doing his Hamlet routine (which of course he will be no doubt).
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It definitely makes sense for you guys to lock up Carr when he is ready to sign if Rodgers is still doing his Hamlet routine (which of course he will be no doubt).
-QG
-OZ-
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Tannehill to the jets talk heating up but it doesn’t make sense unless they know (or are just exploring options) Carr goes to NO and Rodgers stays in place.
On the titans side that scares me a little because it could mean either Rodgers, Lance, a rookie or scrap the season and hope for next year. It wouldn’t make sense imo for the jets to trade for tanny and carr sign in Tennessee unless Carr really prefers Nashville
seems like a stretch.
On the titans side that scares me a little because it could mean either Rodgers, Lance, a rookie or scrap the season and hope for next year. It wouldn’t make sense imo for the jets to trade for tanny and carr sign in Tennessee unless Carr really prefers Nashville
seems like a stretch.
zamboni
Footballguy
Unfortunately, that's perhaps the most important "other than" in all of sports.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Tannehill to the jets talk heating up but it doesn’t make sense unless they know (or are just exploring options) Carr goes to NO and Rodgers stays in place.
On the titans side that scares me a little because it could mean either Rodgers, Lance, a rookie or scrap the season and hope for next year. It wouldn’t make sense imo for the jets to trade for tanny and carr sign in Tennessee unless Carr really prefers Nashville
I think the Jets would consider him if he is cut and their top 2-3 options are out.
That rumor yesterday by Titans Rossi sounded like complete bs. If there is one thing that JD does well, it's making trades. Just sounds completely unlikely of him to give up 2 draft picks and pay for Tannehill's base salary (something like $27m or something like that) for a guy that may get cut and who there are similar if not better options out there for free
Sounds like Twitter clicks knowing that the Jets are looking for a vet QB. The poor Titans fans in the comments section looking for the 13th pick plus another one for Tannehill. Lol. Come one people. It was Valentine's Day, not April Fools.
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Tannehill to the jets talk heating up but it doesn’t make sense unless they know (or are just exploring options) Carr goes to NO and Rodgers stays in place.
On the titans side that scares me a little because it could mean either Rodgers, Lance, a rookie or scrap the season and hope for next year. It wouldn’t make sense imo for the jets to trade for tanny and carr sign in Tennessee unless Carr really prefers Nashville
I think the Jets would consider him if he is cut and their top 2-3 options are out.
That rumor yesterday by Titans Rossi sounded like complete bs. If there is one thing that JD does well, it's making trades. Just sounds completely unlikely of him to give up 2 draft picks and pay for Tannehill's base salary (something like $27m or something like that) for a guy that may get cut and who there are similar if not better options out there for free
Sounds like Twitter clicks knowing that the Jets are looking for a vet QB. The poor Titans fans in the comments section looking for the 13th pick plus another one for Tannehill. Lol. Come one people. It was Valentine's Day, not April Fools.
We’ll see. I certainly don’t expect anything there and kind of hope he stays. There’s no chance of getting the 13. But a 2 seems possible. If the jets run out of options and Ran chooses to make major moves.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
These poor Titans fans think otherwise after this Tweet. Some online think they will get a first and third rounder now. It's hilarious. They would be lucky to get a 6th rounder from anyone.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
I mean I guess you can also hope the biggest sucker to come along but yeah I mean not with that resume. I mean like Matt Ryan (never mind how it actually) at least had the Super Bowl appearance on his resume. 2-3 in the playoffs with 7 TDs and 5 INTs? Nobody is killing themselves for that when the incentive for the Titans to move on is so clear
-QG
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I’ve been of the mindset, Tannehill was an option if he was released. I don’t think he will be but the rumors were based on other rumors that the Titans would try and move from 10 to 1. At this point I don’t think he’s really on the radar.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I see we've entered Peter King Throws S*** Against The Wall to See What Sticks SZN
I'd give this a .00000000001% chance of happening.
I'd give this a .00000000001% chance of happening.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
“seriously consider” is such an empty statement.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’m seriously considering winning the lottery.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
First off it’s Peter King “believes” (based on what exactly?)…
I just never thought Jackson was a realistic option.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Sorta like how everyone says the Jets are all-in on Aaron Rodgers.
Aaron Rodgers isn’t even all-in on Aaron Rodgers right now. Cmon.
RC94
Footballguy
So am I. I like money.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Here we go - while Arod is tripping there is a chance the Jets dont let Carr out of the complex this weekend. Again Id prefer Arod but if by waiting for him risks losing Carr Id just sign Carr. Longer term solution, no draft capital, still massive upgrade - he would need to elevate his game to make a super bowl run but if they add more pieces I can see it.
zamboni
Footballguy
A few Jets beat writers reporting it as well - Connor Hughes for one.
zamboni
Footballguy
I don't believe in Carr as a guy that can elevate the offense, much like Jimmy G, but with the weapons they have and the supporting defense, he probably doesn't have to.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Yeah, after the fact they pull the "confirm" card.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
They almost made the playoffs with a guy who cant complete a screen pass. Carr is 2 yrs removed from a 30 TD and less than 10 int season - plus he stays healthy. Much better option than Jimmy G. Still would rather A-Rod but the guy needs to go off to even decide if he wants to play anymore. Cant risk losing the best option out there for that IMO
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
At this point, I hope Carr is a Jet by the time Rodgers sees sunlight, but I don't really believe Carr is singing with anyone right away. He has a full month head start, why not use it?
Kiddnets
Footballguy
only way I can see is he really wants the Jets and its a chance to sneak in before A-Rod makes his decision.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Carr all smiles at lunch in North Jersey Italian restaurant.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Got me wondering they would take Rodgers for lunch/dinner.
The leaks out of the Carr dinner is that it went really well.
-QG
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Rodgers will brown-bag it. No way he takes a chance that Woody slips his new edible Johnson & Johnson vaccine into his food at any restaurant.
rockaction
Footballguy
Numbers to remember
13, 43, 74, 112, 145
Those are the ordered numbers of our draft picks.
Buckle up. April 27th or so.
13, 43, 74, 112, 145
Those are the ordered numbers of our draft picks.
Buckle up. April 27th or so.
For you Jets folks, what's your percent chance you think today Carr signs with the Jets?
rockaction
Footballguy
I honestly have no idea. I'd say slim, but weirder things have happened.
rockaction
Footballguy
From Yahoo - Jan 15, 2022
"The California native turns into a pumpkin whenever the temperature drops. Carr owns a positive Expected Points Added per play in his career when it's warmer than 40 degrees, but dips into the negative as it gets colder. Per Paul Dehner Jr., Carr is 0-5 in games where the temperature was 37 degrees or less at kickoff. Today's game in Cincinnati will be a brisk one, kicking off in the low 30s. To compound matters for the Raiders QB, a key component to hitting prop overs is staying on the field. Las Vegas ranks 22nd in third-down conversion rate, converting just 37.4% of the time."
His team has never scored over 17 points when the temp is less than 37. He's never thrown more than one touchdown in those games. He's now 0-7 with the Pittsburgh game this year, which was a horrible game by Carr.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I expect him to meet with other teams since he has a month head start. I’d say very low, maybe 4%.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yep. And if the Jets do make an offer, he'll have it in his back pocket for negotiations with other teams, which leads me to believe he won't sign today. He's really the only guy out there right now. He'll find a suitor.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
I'm not a Carr advocate, but I would like to see relative stats. I would suspect that most QBs don't do well in the cold. We know that scores go down 3-4 points and turnovers increase. Ball pressure goes down. Grip strength decreases. Muscles tighten up. Reflexes go down. Harder to breathe, etc. All smaller factors that add up.
If you go look at say week 16 of this past season, it was really cold in most of the country (West Coast excluded). Scores were ridiculously low. QB stats were not good with a couple of exceptions and they all had lower than average weeks.
rockaction
Footballguy
Sure. Just providing the information I found. I don't have overall stats for QBs under 35 or so degrees. Perhaps that could be found.
No, it's not that easy. But I found this in comparison. Large sample size, too.
Here's How Aaron Rodgers Plays When Temperatures Drop Below Freezing
Rodgers has ice water in his veins. The stats prove it.
spectrumnews1.com
There is no update on whether we know what he does in the dark.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I'm guessing he sits in a bucket of ice water.
rockaction
Footballguy
I was going for a Fall Out Boy lyric, but this will do. It was just in my head.
My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark (Light Em Up)
Groans. I'm not sure I want that earworm. Here we go. I should be really careful lest somebody consider me a Fall Out Boy aficionado.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
fatness
Footballguy
That might be a very definite possibility.
(actually said by a guy I worked with, who slammed his fist on a desk for emphasis)
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