2023 New York Jets (2 Viewers)

[mphtrilogy]

I think a Defensive HC like Saleh should scheme a pass rush

The SF defense was based on having four great pass rushers getting pressure with very little blitzing. Obviously it doesn't take a defesive genius to come up with a scheme like that - but when you can pull it off you get the best of both worlds.

I'm starting to feel icky defending Salah and Douglas in here - but I do think some of the attacks are a little off-base. Like I said this is a results based league though and their results are terrible, so by all rights the Jets should be cleaning house and firing everybody - but we all know who's really running the team now .

Salah is on the same timeline as Arthur Smith, will be interesting to see what happens in Atl, and we already saw what happened to Staley who was also in his hire year, he was gifted one more year for better or worse because of Rodgers, hope he uses it wisely. That being said, once he gets cut here he will will find another job as D coordinator and find his way back to a HC job this league loves retreads.

 

[Kiddnets]

Throw in the head scratching seldom used 1st rd pick and it was horrific.

He started coming on in the second half of the season, and they're likely to lose Huff. Don't get me wrong, OL or WR should have been the way to go - but the Jets defense is built around having a strong pass rush, so the pick wasn't a total bust, assuming he builds on this year.

If they franchise Huff and can trade him for a premium pick that would help, Agree that its too early to call him a bust but I think a Defensive HC like Saleh should scheme a pass rush and give the depleted O some help. Especially with a 2 yr window.

Gotta figure this year they go all in on helping the O.

They did literally that with the undrafted Bryce Huff! This was also one of my huge beefs with the Bowels-McCrapgnon error.....not one but TWO top 40 picks on SAFETIES and our HC was a freakin' SECONDARY COACH! How many regimes have to continually mismanage the high pick assets we are constantly gifted due to this inferior on field product?

Huff was a great find - doubt they can afford to pay him $20M. if Saleh is truly a great Def coach and they believe in Will Mcd then they should franchise and trade Huff for a premium pick for the O. The defense even minus Huff should be good enough.

The 1st rd safeties were a big mistake but Jamal turned into AVT and GW so cant complain I guess. Got lucky he was such a tool.

 

[Kiddnets]

I think a Defensive HC like Saleh should scheme a pass rush

The SF defense was based on having four great pass rushers getting pressure with very little blitzing. Obviously it doesn't take a defesive genius to come up with a scheme like that - but when you can pull it off you get the best of both worlds.

I'm starting to feel icky defending Salah and Douglas in here - but I do think some of the attacks are a little off-base. Like I said this is a results based league though and their results are terrible, so by all rights the Jets should be cleaning house and firing everybody - but we all know who's really running the team now .

Salah is on the same timeline as Arthur Smith, will be interesting to see what happens in Atl, and we already saw what happened to Staley who was also in his hire year, he was gifted one more year for better or worse because of Rodgers, hope he uses it wisely. That being said, once he gets cut here he will will find another job as D coordinator and find his way back to a HC job this league loves retreads.

Arthur Smith may e the 1 HC I think is worse than Saleh so far. At least Saleh tries to use his playmakers.

So far Saleh is a Todd Bowles type HC - great DC - lousy HC. He'll definitely get another crack at it if Bowles got a 2d chance

 

[rockaction]

Jamal turned into AVT and GW

Jamal could have been Mahomes, Kiddnets.

Never forget.

 

[sheerterror]

Throw in the head scratching seldom used 1st rd pick and it was horrific.

He started coming on in the second half of the season, and they're likely to lose Huff. Don't get me wrong, OL or WR should have been the way to go - but the Jets defense is built around having a strong pass rush, so the pick wasn't a total bust, assuming he builds on this year.

If they franchise Huff and can trade him for a premium pick that would help, Agree that its too early to call him a bust but I think a Defensive HC like Saleh should scheme a pass rush and give the depleted O some help. Especially with a 2 yr window.

Gotta figure this year they go all in on helping the O.

They did literally that with the undrafted Bryce Huff! This was also one of my huge beefs with the Bowels-McCrapgnon error.....not one but TWO top 40 picks on SAFETIES and our HC was a freakin' SECONDARY COACH! How many regimes have to continually mismanage the high pick assets we are constantly gifted due to this inferior on field product?

Huff was a great find - doubt they can afford to pay him $20M. if Saleh is truly a great Def coach and they believe in Will Mcd then they should franchise and trade Huff for a premium pick for the O. The defense even minus Huff should be good enough.

The 1st rd safeties were a big mistake but Jamal turned into AVT and GW so cant complain I guess. Got lucky he was such a tool.

Is there a way to tag and trade Huff for like a Tee Higgins type? Spend the 1st on a Tackle and we're cookin'.

 

[Kiddnets]

Jamal turned into AVT and GW

Jamal could have been Mahomes, Kiddnets.

Never forget.

The only thing that brings me some comfort in seeing things like this is it is highly unlikely Mahomes would be what he is if he was drafted by the Jets lol

 

[Kiddnets]

Throw in the head scratching seldom used 1st rd pick and it was horrific.

He started coming on in the second half of the season, and they're likely to lose Huff. Don't get me wrong, OL or WR should have been the way to go - but the Jets defense is built around having a strong pass rush, so the pick wasn't a total bust, assuming he builds on this year.

If they franchise Huff and can trade him for a premium pick that would help, Agree that its too early to call him a bust but I think a Defensive HC like Saleh should scheme a pass rush and give the depleted O some help. Especially with a 2 yr window.

Gotta figure this year they go all in on helping the O.

They did literally that with the undrafted Bryce Huff! This was also one of my huge beefs with the Bowels-McCrapgnon error.....not one but TWO top 40 picks on SAFETIES and our HC was a freakin' SECONDARY COACH! How many regimes have to continually mismanage the high pick assets we are constantly gifted due to this inferior on field product?

Huff was a great find - doubt they can afford to pay him $20M. if Saleh is truly a great Def coach and they believe in Will Mcd then they should franchise and trade Huff for a premium pick for the O. The defense even minus Huff should be good enough.

The 1st rd safeties were a big mistake but Jamal turned into AVT and GW so cant complain I guess. Got lucky he was such a tool.

Is there a way to tag and trade Huff for like a Tee Higgins type? Spend the 1st on a Tackle and we're cookin'.

That would be awesome but probably not - I remember the Jets tagging and trading stud pass rusher John Abraham for a late 1st which they used on Nick Mangold. Really hoping for something similar!

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I think we agree that Breece is awesome.

I don't think we disagree on anything, really, only that my point is that the Pro Bowl voters look at rushing yards. I can't change that.

It's always that way for two-dimensional backs who somehow get labelled as "soft" or "lesser" because of their prowess in the passing game. People don't think of them as pure runners. Roger Craig (who is Breece's uncle) and Marshall Faulk had to shed that label, IIRC, and look how good they were. All-timers. Hall's electric. He could really be an all-timer if given a QB and a line. Anyway, enough said by me.

Just to pick a nit, per Wikipedia Roger Craig is B Hall’s 3rd cousin, not his uncle. (Either way, I didn’t know they were related, wow!!!)

 

[rockaction]

Just to pick a nit, per Wikipedia Roger Craig is B Hall’s 3rd cousin, not his uncle. (Either way, I didn’t know they were related, wow!!!)

That's not a nit, that's a whole sliver under the skin and the potential for a wedding ring (I kid). Thanks for the correction. It's a much more separated relationship than I thought. (There was an article I read back when that talked about them being closely related, and I bit, I guess. Third cousin it is.)

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Just to pick a nit, per Wikipedia Roger Craig is B Hall’s 3rd cousin, not his uncle. (Either way, I didn’t know they were related, wow!!!)

That's not a nit, that's a whole sliver under the skin and the potential for a wedding ring (I kid). Thanks for the correction. It's a much more separated relationship than I thought. (There was an article I read back when that talked about them being closely related, and I bit, I guess. Third cousin it is.)

I went down a rabbit hole all excited just to find out they were related!!

 

[QuizGuy66]

I think we agree that Breece is awesome.

I don't think we disagree on anything, really, only that my point is that the Pro Bowl voters look at rushing yards. I can't change that.

It's always that way for two-dimensional backs who somehow get labelled as "soft" or "lesser" because of their prowess in the passing game. People don't think of them as pure runners. Roger Craig (who is Breece's uncle) and Marshall Faulk had to shed that label, IIRC, and look how good they were. All-timers. Hall's electric. He could really be an all-timer if given a QB and a line. Anyway, enough said by me.

I also think Pro Bowl voters put guys in out of habit. Henry puts up good enough numbers and gets it over Hall. Same with Legatron vs Tucker. This was not a vintage Tucker year by any means and even though is the GOAT (which pains me to say as a Bengals fan) he hasn't been the best this year - merely good. Was surprised Tucker's longest was 50. Zuerlein getting 111 points (and only 2 missed FG) for a struggling offense is very impressive.

I don't think I would have voted Morstead by the looks of things (a lot of punts returned for a lot of yards - the Raiders punter looks to have had a great year) though I am very shocked he only has made 1 pro bowl given he has had a great career (and a Super Bowl hero no less).

I'd be shocked if Hall wasn't there next year. Wilson is likely gonna need a healthy Rodgers to get the numbers he needs - fair or not. WR in the AFC is nearly as stacked as QB.

-QG

 

[sheerterror]

Throw in the head scratching seldom used 1st rd pick and it was horrific.

He started coming on in the second half of the season, and they're likely to lose Huff. Don't get me wrong, OL or WR should have been the way to go - but the Jets defense is built around having a strong pass rush, so the pick wasn't a total bust, assuming he builds on this year.

If they franchise Huff and can trade him for a premium pick that would help, Agree that its too early to call him a bust but I think a Defensive HC like Saleh should scheme a pass rush and give the depleted O some help. Especially with a 2 yr window.

Gotta figure this year they go all in on helping the O.

They did literally that with the undrafted Bryce Huff! This was also one of my huge beefs with the Bowels-McCrapgnon error.....not one but TWO top 40 picks on SAFETIES and our HC was a freakin' SECONDARY COACH! How many regimes have to continually mismanage the high pick assets we are constantly gifted due to this inferior on field product?

Huff was a great find - doubt they can afford to pay him $20M. if Saleh is truly a great Def coach and they believe in Will Mcd then they should franchise and trade Huff for a premium pick for the O. The defense even minus Huff should be good enough.

The 1st rd safeties were a big mistake but Jamal turned into AVT and GW so cant complain I guess. Got lucky he was such a tool.

Is there a way to tag and trade Huff for like a Tee Higgins type? Spend the 1st on a Tackle and we're cookin'.

That would be awesome but probably not - I remember the Jets tagging and trading stud pass rusher John Abraham for a late 1st which they used on Nick Mangold. Really hoping for something similar!

I think they have to explore something like this. It's the only position of strength/depth the Jets have to trade from. It's the best way to shift some assets from the defensive side of the ball to offense where we have a glaring need and a gogogogogogogogo win now window - because a lot of teams go from longest playoff drought currently in North American pro sports to winning the championship in 1 season.

 

[rockaction]

They didn't seriously run Breece Hall 37 times today.

Tell me this clownshow organization didn't do that.

 

[sheerterror]

They didn't seriously run Breece Hall 37 times today.

Tell me this clownshow organization didn't do that.

It's like they say, you never wanna leave too much tread on your stud RB's tires.

 

[rockaction]

It's like they say, you never wanna leave too much tread on your stud RB's tires.

I usually take a Jets win or loss with a degree of stoicism. The only two times in ten years I can remember being passionate were Breece's ACL injury and finding this out from the box score today.

I'm infuriated.

 

[sheerterror]

It's like they say, you never wanna leave too much tread on your stud RB's tires.

I usually take a Jets win or loss with a degree of stoicism. The only two times in ten years I can remember being passionate were Breece's ACL injury and finding this out from the box score today.

I'm infuriated.

As I said in the Hall thread, they watch GW get concussed, and then next snap, Hall's out there churning away. They even gave him a carry at the end of the game instead of a kneel down. Clearly wanted to get him to 1k yards. Work harder, not smarter.

 

[rockaction]

Clearly wanted to get him to 1k yards.

Oh, thank you for telling me that. I just thought they gave him the ball 37 times for the **** of it.

I'm not kidding. I thought it was to get a meaningless win.

Still a stupid thing to do. That's angering.

 

[NYRAGE]

It's like they say, you never wanna leave too much tread on your stud RB's tires.

I usually take a Jets win or loss with a degree of stoicism. The only two times in ten years I can remember being passionate were Breece's ACL injury and finding this out from the box score today.

I'm infuriated.

As I said in the Hall thread, they watch GW get concussed, and then next snap, Hall's out there churning away. They even gave him a carry at the end of the game instead of a kneel down. Clearly wanted to get him to 1k yards. Work harder, not smarter.

Did you see Saleh in the press conference say that their sideline statistician counted wrong and they thought Breece had gotten to 1k yards? He fell 5 yards short. Jesus Christ, how freaking stupid is this coaching staff. It's simple math. It's only addition!!! Granted I got a perfect score on the math SAT, but I'm sure I could have trained a monkey to keep count better than this professional. This whole coaching staff is a joke.

Plus, you would think they would have thrown 7 easy passes to WIlson early in the game so he could get 100 catches. Why not keep your 2 stars happy? They threw repeatedly to everyone, but Wilson. Then Wilson got hurt in the second half.

I'm not even that upset about the draft order...probably because I have no faith in the coaching staff or GM.

Btw, Huff said that he wants to go to a team with a system that allows him play full time. shocking development.

 

[NYRAGE]

Clearly wanted to get him to 1k yards.

Oh, thank you for telling me that. I just thought they gave him the ball 37 times for the **** of it.

I'm not kidding. I thought it was to get a meaningless win.

Still a stupid thing to do. That's angering.

I really don't believe they gave it to him 37 times for him to get 1000 yards since they made no effort to get Wilson his 7 catches for 100. I think these bums were doing whatever they could to win the game. Even early on it seemed like they knew they would beat NE if the managed the game and took no chances. They only threw 20 times and I would like to see the average depth of target since it felt short all game.

 

[TLEF316]

I mean....its just an absolute clown show on all levels.

Run Breece into the ground....still miscount and dont even get him to 1,000 yards.
Get Wilson's bell rung (although you cant really blame anyone for that.

And had they lost.....they'd apparently be picking 6th, virtually guaranteeing them Harrison Jr or one of the 2 top OT's. As it stands....they're likely picking 10th (assuming the Raiders close it out).

For those that are happy with 20 minutes of "OMG We BEAT the PATZ and sent BILL into retirement!!!!".(not necessarily in this thread, just in general) .....congrats. I prefer my franchise get things that actually matter (in the last day of a lost season. there is zero "winning culture" difference between 6-11 and 7-10)....like the best shot possible at a franchise cornerstone at a key position.

Even for the "but dey got Garrett Wilson at ten1!!! crowd......if you have pick 5, you can trade down to 10 and get a pretty significant haul.

Is this team really gonna build some great culture for next year because they beat a horrendous Patriots team in the snow in week 18. I highly doubt it.

And yeah.....Huff is gone. Drafting McDonald made sure of that. They can't afford him if they're gonna rebuild the oline (harder now with the lower pick) and get a WR.

Not even mad.....its all just what this franchise does.

Edit: looks like 6th was their ceiling with a loss

 

[NYRAGE]

The only problem with everyone saying that we can't even tank properly and lose to NE is how the hell could we 1) lose to that NE team and 2) How can we tank when we are already awful?

We already have the worst coaching staff in the league. How much worse can this team get? We have Hacket calling the plays. If that's not unintentional tanking I don't know what it is.

We already have Seimian at QB. We have already had some of the worst QBing in history.

Start Izzy instead of Breece? That's not going to fly, especially with the rest of the players. Sure, give Izzy half the carries I guess.

Sit half the defense against Zappe? I still don't think Zippy Zappe gets a td. Play with 9 defenders?

Don't throw to your young stud WR? They did that.

Put some drugs in the food of Greg the Leg and Moorestead? Greg Z actually missed a kick today.

Guys, we suck. NE just sucks more. It is what it is.

 

[TLEF316]

The only problem with everyone saying that we can't even tank properly and lose to NE is how the hell could we 1) lose to that NE team and 2) How can we tank when we are already awful?

We already have the worst coaching staff in the league. How much worse can this team get? We have Hacket calling the plays. If that's not unintentional tanking I don't know what it is.

We already have Seimian at QB. We have already had some of the worst QBing in history.

Start Izzy instead of Breece? That's not going to fly, especially with the rest of the players. Sure, give Izzy half the carries I guess.

Sit half the defense against Zappe? I still don't think Zippy Zappe gets a td. Play with 9 defenders?

Don't throw to your young stud WR? They did that.

Put some drugs in the food of Greg the Leg and Moorestead? Greg Z actually missed a kick today.

Guys, we suck. NE just sucks more. It is what it is.

You're not wrong. New England was beyond atrocious. Just very little talent on that roster.

You can't sit Breece, and he pretty much single-handedly was the offense today. And you can't have the D lay down. The staff is already the worse in the league.

They could have played James Morgan 3 years ago ago and it would have been 100% correct and justified. They didn't. (and it looking more and more like Lawrence might just be meh....so who the hell knows) They didn't have any similar options this year.

Too much talent on the roster to lose to NE and WASH (although they sure as hell tried and would have if Greg Z wasn't such an animal). The killer game was Houston. They put up one Herculean effort(coming off a disaster against Atlanta) against a playoff team and then fell right back to earth the following week. That was the one they needed to lose for tanking purposes. Just caught a rookie QB on his worst day while Zach was on his best.

 

[mphtrilogy]

I don't hate this win, although I was pulling for a loss, we can finally stop discussing this streak, it resets the team for next year on a good note and starts 2024 on a win streak, lol. No one was getting fired, the D showed up big time so they still played hard for this Coach staff and looked good, there should be minimal resources put into that D, this is all about the offensive rebuild. Dropping two or 3 slots to 10 isn't the worst thing, this draft looks like it has some top end quality. There looks like at least 3, maybe 4 QBs (If Penix shines tonight) are possibly going to go in the top 9, at least two Left OT's, and at least two WR's leaving Bowers, Odunze, the remaining top O-Lineman there at 10 if no one takes an edge or CB in the top 9 which is very possible. It's easy being negative with this franchise with good reasons, but might as well "hope" for a good off season and a full year of Rodgers, the bar has been reset to the first rung, so any success will be "celebrated" that's for sure.

10 is not a terrible place to pick and JD did land Garrett there so... But if he picks an edge rusher, oh boy this fan base will storm the gates...

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I don't hate this win, although I was pulling for a loss, we can finally stop discussing this streak, it resets the team for next year on a good note and starts 2024 on a win streak, lol. No one was getting fired, the D showed up big time so they still played hard for this Coach staff and looked good, there should be minimal resources put into that D, this is all about the offensive rebuild. Dropping two or 3 slots to 10 isn't the worst thing, this draft looks like it has some top end quality. There looks like at least 3, maybe 4 QBs (If Penix shines tonight) are possibly going to go in the top 9, at least two Left OT's, and at least two WR's leaving Bowers, Odunze, the remaining top O-Lineman there at 10 if no one takes an edge or CB in the top 9 which is very possible. It's easy being negative with this franchise with good reasons, but might as well "hope" for a good off season and a full year of Rodgers, the bar has been reset to the first rung, so any success will be "celebrated" that's for sure.

10 is not a terrible place to pick and JD did land Garrett there so... But if he picks an edge rusher, oh boy this fan base will storm the gates...

I think the bigger issue is allowing the Pats to have a Top 3 pick - while it doesn't guarantee they'll get a franchise QB, it sure helps, and as we've seen they sure need one.

I remember being lambasted with 10 paragraphs of non responsive nonsense by the board's Patriot "know it all" when I suggested the Patriots would be one of the worst offenses in the league. I feel vindicated. I'm sure he still thinks he was right though because he can't ever be wrong.

With that said, as stated above - what could they really do? It's hard losing twice to such a horrible team, even for the Jets - and while Siemien is not a good QB, he's at least competent enough to move the ball. I mean they could have thrown Zach back out there, I suppose, but they want to try and salvage any trade value he may have.

 

[zamboni]

I don't hate this win, although I was pulling for a loss, we can finally stop discussing this streak, it resets the team for next year on a good note and starts 2024 on a win streak, lol. No one was getting fired, the D showed up big time so they still played hard for this Coach staff and looked good, there should be minimal resources put into that D, this is all about the offensive rebuild. Dropping two or 3 slots to 10 isn't the worst thing, this draft looks like it has some top end quality. There looks like at least 3, maybe 4 QBs (If Penix shines tonight) are possibly going to go in the top 9, at least two Left OT's, and at least two WR's leaving Bowers, Odunze, the remaining top O-Lineman there at 10 if no one takes an edge or CB in the top 9 which is very possible. It's easy being negative with this franchise with good reasons, but might as well "hope" for a good off season and a full year of Rodgers, the bar has been reset to the first rung, so any success will be "celebrated" that's for sure.

10 is not a terrible place to pick and JD did land Garrett there so... But if he picks an edge rusher, oh boy this fan base will storm the gates...

I pretty much feel the same - it's nice to get the proverbial monkey off the back by beating the Pats.. While it's disappointing to have a lower draft pick, it's not like we're talking top 3 if they lost - basically a few spots. In an all-in season next year, team brass is going to have to make its bones in free agency more so than who they pick at 10 (or would have picked a few spots earlier).

 

[zamboni]

I think the bigger issue is allowing the Pats to have a Top 3 pick - while it doesn't guarantee they'll get a franchise QB, it sure helps, and as we've seen they sure need one.

That's true - there is that. Let's just hope that they have as much "luck" as the Jets have in recent years picking that early.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I think the bigger issue is allowing the Pats to have a Top 3 pick - while it doesn't guarantee they'll get a franchise QB, it sure helps, and as we've seen they sure need one.

That's true - there is that. Let's just hope that they have as much "luck" as the Jets have in recent years picking that early.

I hope they draft the next Mac Jones.

 

[sheerterror]

Retaining the O line coach seems criminal.

 

[NYRAGE]

Saleh this morning said he expects no significant changes. Downing and Carter are expected back.

The Jets are consistent...consistently awful at making bad decisions (and being awful, too).

After yesterday's game, Saleh said that we were right to criticize the offense because they have been inconsistent. Is this man even lying to himself? They were consistently awful game to game. Maybe he's thinking like they had one good drive every 3 games.

This team is so disheartening.

 

[NYRAGE]

Retaining the O line coach seems criminal.

Just the usual malfeasance

 

[rockaction]

I remember being lambasted with 10 paragraphs of non responsive nonsense by the board's Patriot "know it all" when I suggested the Patriots would be one of the worst offenses in the league. I feel vindicated. I'm sure he still thinks he was right though because he can't ever be wrong.

He's still insisting his process of assessment was correct and that the Patriots shouldn't have been that bad. It's almost funny.

 

[NYRAGE]

Retaining the O line coach seems criminal.

Btw, Saleh just said that he thinks Carter did a really nice job. Hmm

Saleh also said that they will stick AVT at one position next year and not change it no matter who gets hurt. He feels that AVT moving around led to him getting hurt. Hmm. mmkay.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I remember being lambasted with 10 paragraphs of non responsive nonsense by the board's Patriot "know it all" when I suggested the Patriots would be one of the worst offenses in the league. I feel vindicated. I'm sure he still thinks he was right though because he can't ever be wrong.

He's still insisting his process of assessment was correct and that the Patriots shouldn't have been that bad. It's almost funny.

I am, unshocked.

 

[sheerterror]

Retaining the O line coach seems criminal.

Btw, Saleh just said that he thinks Carter did a really nice job. Hmm

Saleh also said that they will stick AVT at one position next year and not change it no matter who gets hurt. He feels that AVT moving around led to him getting hurt. Hmm. mmkay.

Forgot where it came from (maybe Baldinger?) but they had basically said Carter is a super old school coach that overworks his guys and that is one potential reason for so many of these injuries.

 

[NYRAGE]

Retaining the O line coach seems criminal.

Btw, Saleh just said that he thinks Carter did a really nice job. Hmm

Saleh also said that they will stick AVT at one position next year and not change it no matter who gets hurt. He feels that AVT moving around led to him getting hurt. Hmm. mmkay.

Forgot where it came from (maybe Baldinger?) but they had basically said Carter is a super old school coach that overworks his guys and that is one potential reason for so many of these injuries.

Yup, the Titans linemen hated him. It tracks.

When you have one of the worst offenses of all time, it definitely makes sense to run it back with all of them. The Jets way! All gas, no brakes, giant crash.

 

[Kiddnets]

I dont think anyone is shocked that the Jets continued their streak of winning meaningless games to hurt draft position. Obviously no one is tanking - and the Pats are hot garbage so the streak is gone and do what we do best - break down what went wrong and look fwd to next year

Running it back with the same coaches seems insane - I get keeping the big 3 due to AR but bringing back the OL coach after an awful year? I know people hate comparing the Jets to the Giants but the Giants fired their OL right away. Thats what solid franchises do

Few things to review:

QB - yes the AR experiment was a disaster yr 1 - but he is motivated and seems to be fired up to play another 2 yrs. As we've seen a fired up AR can be MVP. Question is can he stay healthy and can they put enough into the O to help him.

Part 2 of QB - what if they didnt pull the AR trade - the other options were Carr and Jimmy G - both seem awful so far. Jets would have kept their 2 2d rd picks but they'd be in an arguably worse state. At least there still is some hope with Rodgers while the other 2 are anchors.

RB: I am sickened that they ran Breece into the ground vs PAts. They risked injury and his health. Thankfully he came out ok and with another offseason on that fixed knee plus a competent QB/upgrade OL and he could be #1 RB in the league. Huge weapon to build around

WR: Besides OL finding another WR to GW is a must. The guy sounds so dejected he would probably pull a Jamal Adams if AR wasnt coming back. They need to give him a legit #2 whether it be Devante, Higgins or a premium draft pick

OL: As stated ad nauseum - complete revamp needed

TE: Cut CJ Utz - I like the Conklin/Rucker tandem - though Bowers may be tempting Id avoid.

Def - franchise and trade Huff - he helped his value. Hopefully a 2d rder that could be used on OL/WR. Rest of the Def is running is back - hopefully McD can develop and ease the loss of Huff.

ST - Jets never spend money on ST but gott abring both Z and Moorestead back for mult yr deals.

Coach - lets hope they figure things out. Not optimistic

Draft - #10 is not awful - but #6 would have guaranteed them a stud. now they have to see how it shakes out. Most likely 3 QBs, MHJ and Olu are locked into top 5. Next tier is Alt, Nabers, Odunze and Bowers which of course drops a tier right before the Jets pick. Hopefully another QB like Penix gets some hype so one of the 2d tier drops to them - otherwise looking at an OL like Latham or WR like Keon Coleman - lots of time to figure that out. Not having a 2d rder is tough - hence trading Huff.

Division should be open for the taking next year - both the Bills and Fins have weaknesses - and Pats are a dumpster fire. It stinks having all that hype, bottoming out and running it back again but dont see any other choice. Looking forward to yet another optimistic offseason

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Looking forward to yet another optimistic offseason

Are you sure you’re a Jets fan

 

[Kiddnets]

Looking forward to yet another optimistic offseason

Are you sure you’re a Jets fan

I should have noted the sarcasm - Jets are kings of the offseason as we all know! lol

 

[massraider]

Aaron Rodgers: "The ******** that has nothing to do with winning, needs to get out of the building."


https://twitter.com/antwanstaley/status/1744379225786720576

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Aaron Rodgers: "The ******** that has nothing to do with winning, needs to get out of the building."


https://twitter.com/antwanstaley/status/1744379225786720576

like Randall Cobb?

 

[mphtrilogy]

Well, this is as close to a playoffs or bust mandate without being said by the owner, no one survives another miss next year... another interesting offseason awaits.. the players are holding a higher level of accountability to themselves then this coaching staff is, crazy...

 

[Kiddnets]

Aaron Rodgers: "The ******** that has nothing to do with winning, needs to get out of the building."


https://twitter.com/antwanstaley/status/1744379225786720576

like Randall Cobb?

Im not sure what hes referring to - the lack of winning goes squarely on the GM/coaching staff who he just saved!

 

[zamboni]

Aaron Rodgers: "The ******** that has nothing to do with winning, needs to get out of the building."


https://twitter.com/antwanstaley/status/1744379225786720576

like Randall Cobb?

Im not sure what hes referring to - the lack of winning goes squarely on the GM/coaching staff who he just saved!

Yeah, I don’t even know what he’s saying, but it’s AR so it will be embedded in stone.

 

[NYRAGE]

I dont think anyone is shocked that the Jets continued their streak of winning meaningless games to hurt draft position. Obviously no one is tanking - and the Pats are hot garbage so the streak is gone and do what we do best - break down what went wrong and look fwd to next year

Running it back with the same coaches seems insane - I get keeping the big 3 due to AR but bringing back the OL coach after an awful year? I know people hate comparing the Jets to the Giants but the Giants fired their OL right away. Thats what solid franchises do

Few things to review:

QB - yes the AR experiment was a disaster yr 1 - but he is motivated and seems to be fired up to play another 2 yrs. As we've seen a fired up AR can be MVP. Question is can he stay healthy and can they put enough into the O to help him.

Part 2 of QB - what if they didnt pull the AR trade - the other options were Carr and Jimmy G - both seem awful so far. Jets would have kept their 2 2d rd picks but they'd be in an arguably worse state. At least there still is some hope with Rodgers while the other 2 are anchors.

RB: I am sickened that they ran Breece into the ground vs PAts. They risked injury and his health. Thankfully he came out ok and with another offseason on that fixed knee plus a competent QB/upgrade OL and he could be #1 RB in the league. Huge weapon to build around

WR: Besides OL finding another WR to GW is a must. The guy sounds so dejected he would probably pull a Jamal Adams if AR wasnt coming back. They need to give him a legit #2 whether it be Devante, Higgins or a premium draft pick

OL: As stated ad nauseum - complete revamp needed

TE: Cut CJ Utz - I like the Conklin/Rucker tandem - though Bowers may be tempting Id avoid.

Def - franchise and trade Huff - he helped his value. Hopefully a 2d rder that could be used on OL/WR. Rest of the Def is running is back - hopefully McD can develop and ease the loss of Huff.

ST - Jets never spend money on ST but gott abring both Z and Moorestead back for mult yr deals.

Coach - lets hope they figure things out. Not optimistic

Draft - #10 is not awful - but #6 would have guaranteed them a stud. now they have to see how it shakes out. Most likely 3 QBs, MHJ and Olu are locked into top 5. Next tier is Alt, Nabers, Odunze and Bowers which of course drops a tier right before the Jets pick. Hopefully another QB like Penix gets some hype so one of the 2d tier drops to them - otherwise looking at an OL like Latham or WR like Keon Coleman - lots of time to figure that out. Not having a 2d rder is tough - hence trading Huff.

Division should be open for the taking next year - both the Bills and Fins have weaknesses - and Pats are a dumpster fire. It stinks having all that hype, bottoming out and running it back again but dont see any other choice. Looking forward to yet another optimistic offseason

Great post Kidd.

Did you see GW's comments about how this was the most miserable year of his life? Like I said yesterday, these idiots (Siemien included) could have at least fed him those passes to at least have him have something to feel good about.

Rodgers comments: ugh, you mean the bums you had brought in, the terrible coaches you saved, and all the stupid crap you say outside of football?

Breece: That's 2 people commenting on that. I never had an issue with yesterday's carries. So he's a little sore this week (and in my DFS lineups yesterday). Maybe I'm just off on this one. It only took Rodgers a few snaps to get hurt. Sure, more carries increases the general risk, but maybe these idiots were really trying to get him to 1k yards.

Greg Z must come back for sure, but we know how cheap JD is. I would like Moorestead back as well.

I don't see the Jets franchising Huff (whether the trade him or not). I just don't think it's in JD's wheelhouse.

CJ hopefully isn't our only cut.

I think they should be able to get someone good at 10. Someone will rise up during the workout period.

Yes, the key will be Rodgers staying healthy. Curious to see if they can get anything for Wilson.

 

[NYRAGE]

JD is having his presser right now.

When asked why Saleh is the right coach to lead the Jets forward, he said:

"Robert is the right coach because he is the right man for the job".

LOL. He is not even bothering to lie to us anymore. Great answer Joe.

 

[rockaction]

I laugh and cry.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Curious to see if they can get anything for Wilson

I’m expecting a 7th round swap or slightly more than that at best.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

JD is having his presser right now.

When asked why Saleh is the right coach to lead the Jets forward, he said:

"Robert is the right coach because he is the right man for the job".

LOL. He is not even bothering to lie to us anymore. Great answer Joe.

And Salah feels the team is playing much better than its record.

The Jets have had a few pockets of success in my lifetime but it’s really only been the Pacrcells era where they rose above being a laughingstock franchise. Rex Ryan made them winners again but he also brought the clown show with him.

 

[rockaction]

Rex Ryan made them winners again but he also brought the clown show with him.

Let's go have a ****in' snack.

 

[Kiddnets]

Vrabel is another good coach on the market with solid winning experience - along with Harbaugh and possibly others - a rare thing. Taking a major gamble on Saleh as I dont think I can take another up and coming coordinator.

Watched the game last pm - Id take Pennix out of the top 10 discussion as he looked pretty bad. Was hoping he would light it up and work his way into the top 10. Although Fields crushed his postseason and dropped out of top 10 so who knows