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2023 New York Jets (5 Viewers)
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
It's extremely odd the the first four games are all against the AFC North - I've never seen anything like that.
Need to go 2-2 there, which will not be easy. Pittsburgh may be starting a rookie QB, but the game is at Pitt. Watson may be suspended but that will still be a tough game @ Cleveland (Brissett is an adequate QB).
Need to go 2-2 there, which will not be easy. Pittsburgh may be starting a rookie QB, but the game is at Pitt. Watson may be suspended but that will still be a tough game @ Cleveland (Brissett is an adequate QB).
It was super frustrating watching Brissett last year with Miami. He has nice tough on long passes and is a good scrambler and hard to bring down. But he missed so many easy throws and takes too much time to make decisions. The Browns play NE in game 6, MIA in game 9, and BUF in game 10. Getting Brissett instead of Watson is a win for NYJ.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Sure, of course I'd rather face Brissett than Watson. I'm just saying, it's still at Cleveland and won't be an easy game by any means. It's a solid roster even with a below average QB.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
I usually hate the predict the W/Ls game but how can you not when the schedule is out - what else are we gonna do
Week 1 vs Ravens - L - incredibly tough opener - if they somehow pull out a win it would be a huge statement.
Week 2: @ Cleveland Browns - W - not going to be easy even without Watson but I think they rebound with a win.
Week 3: vs Cincinnati Bengals - L - Cincy is who the Jets want to be..not there yet.
Week 4: @ Pittsburgh Steelers - W - rookie QB and rebuilding team - good time to visit Pitt
Week 5: vs Miami Dolphins - W - not sold on Tua and think they split with Fins so giving them the home win
Week 6: @ Green Bay Packers - L - never do well in GB - could be an ugly loss
Week 7: @ Denver Broncos - L - see above - may be ugly
Week 8: vs New England Patriots - W - think the Pats are the new AFC East basement team
Week 9: vs Buffalo Bills - L - even though its a home game they are not ready to beat Buff quite yet
Week 10: BYE - 4-5 record at the bye - not too bad
Week 11: @ New England Patriots - W - sweep of the Pats? Definitely new era
Week 12: vs Chicago Bears - W - think Fields struggles again this year and that Chi D is a shell of itself
Week 13: @ Minnesota Vikings - L - Better all round team and on the road is a tall order
Week 14: @ Buffalo Bills - L - think it will be close but not there yet
Week 15: vs Detroit Lions - W - Det is going to be feisty but home makes the difference
Week 16: vs Jacksonville Jaguars (Thursday night) -W - see above - still playing relevant games I think they win this one.
Week 17: @ Seattle Seahawks - L - in true Jets fashion when in the mix and everything on the line they blow it to a lesser team.
Week 18: @ Miami Dolphins - L - and the crash is complete
total record - 8-9 - big improvement with of course big heartbreak with end of season collapse. It will be brutal as always but in the post season wrap up the pain will fade as the big strides are noted. They learn from mistakes and with one more offseason its playoffs in 2023.
Week 1 vs Ravens - L - incredibly tough opener - if they somehow pull out a win it would be a huge statement.
Week 2: @ Cleveland Browns - W - not going to be easy even without Watson but I think they rebound with a win.
Week 3: vs Cincinnati Bengals - L - Cincy is who the Jets want to be..not there yet.
Week 4: @ Pittsburgh Steelers - W - rookie QB and rebuilding team - good time to visit Pitt
Week 5: vs Miami Dolphins - W - not sold on Tua and think they split with Fins so giving them the home win
Week 6: @ Green Bay Packers - L - never do well in GB - could be an ugly loss
Week 7: @ Denver Broncos - L - see above - may be ugly
Week 8: vs New England Patriots - W - think the Pats are the new AFC East basement team
Week 9: vs Buffalo Bills - L - even though its a home game they are not ready to beat Buff quite yet
Week 10: BYE - 4-5 record at the bye - not too bad
Week 11: @ New England Patriots - W - sweep of the Pats? Definitely new era
Week 12: vs Chicago Bears - W - think Fields struggles again this year and that Chi D is a shell of itself
Week 13: @ Minnesota Vikings - L - Better all round team and on the road is a tall order
Week 14: @ Buffalo Bills - L - think it will be close but not there yet
Week 15: vs Detroit Lions - W - Det is going to be feisty but home makes the difference
Week 16: vs Jacksonville Jaguars (Thursday night) -W - see above - still playing relevant games I think they win this one.
Week 17: @ Seattle Seahawks - L - in true Jets fashion when in the mix and everything on the line they blow it to a lesser team.
Week 18: @ Miami Dolphins - L - and the crash is complete
total record - 8-9 - big improvement with of course big heartbreak with end of season collapse. It will be brutal as always but in the post season wrap up the pain will fade as the big strides are noted. They learn from mistakes and with one more offseason its playoffs in 2023.
TLEF316
Footballguy
Yeah...obviously some stuff needs to shake out (seems like their D could get a decent lift if they're able to sign Ogunjobi and Alexander as rumored) but if I was setting the over/under...it would be 7.5.
Lots of unknowns with the Jets themselves, but they have the potential to face a LOT of bad quarterbacks this year. So if OUR QB isn't terrible and the rest of the team plays the way we all think they CAN, the wins could pile up quickly (relative to prior years)
I mean...they get 10 games against the following....
2 vs Tua (has a big new weapon, but can he utilize him?)
2 vs Mac Jones (know he had a solid rookie season, but can he carry a team when asked to do more?)
Drew Locke? (probably stinks)
Justin Fields (they've gotten him basically no help)
Jared Goff (not a disaster, but still bottom tier)
Trevor Lawrence (I still believe in his talent, but there's no denying he was terrible last year)
Mitch Trubisky (stinks)
Perhaps a Cleveland backup (if Watson gets suspended) - obviously Baker is serviceable if they keep him.
Lots of unknowns with the Jets themselves, but they have the potential to face a LOT of bad quarterbacks this year. So if OUR QB isn't terrible and the rest of the team plays the way we all think they CAN, the wins could pile up quickly (relative to prior years)
I mean...they get 10 games against the following....
2 vs Tua (has a big new weapon, but can he utilize him?)
2 vs Mac Jones (know he had a solid rookie season, but can he carry a team when asked to do more?)
Drew Locke? (probably stinks)
Justin Fields (they've gotten him basically no help)
Jared Goff (not a disaster, but still bottom tier)
Trevor Lawrence (I still believe in his talent, but there's no denying he was terrible last year)
Mitch Trubisky (stinks)
Perhaps a Cleveland backup (if Watson gets suspended) - obviously Baker is serviceable if they keep him.
rockaction
Footballguy
Interesting article today. Light reading.
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-new-york-jets-giants-game-changing-2022-nfl-draft-classes
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-new-york-jets-giants-game-changing-2022-nfl-draft-classes
rockaction
Footballguy
Hey @NYRAGE, you're up 2-0 in the ECF. I figured I'd give you all a little PFF analyzing our draft to put you all in good moods. Normally, these guys loathe what the Jets do. This time, they barely quibble with even the Breece Hall deal for very good reasons.
https://youtu.be/mTpUFtwQh_E
https://youtu.be/mTpUFtwQh_E
rockaction
Footballguy
One thing to watch for as the season shakes out. Hall is not a one-cut-and-go type of running back. I wonder how that's going to play in Jets land this year.
Just something to look for if the rookie gets off to a rough start. He's a patient runner in the SF system which wants you sprinting to a spot, and cutting once in space.
Just something to look for if the rookie gets off to a rough start. He's a patient runner in the SF system which wants you sprinting to a spot, and cutting once in space.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
rockaction said:
You jinxed us with the mere mention of PFF. You know I hate those guys with a passion. One guy (not in that video) killed the Jets for the Hall trade. F off. I think he was trying to make a name for himself with the publicity. I hate those idiots. I love analytics as much as anyone, but if they can't see the value of getting a guy like Hall, then I don't know what to tell them.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
There will be Jets bias until they start winning - if a winning team drafted Hall he would be touted as the next Kamara...just price of doing business as a Jet - only positive is that it does carry a discount on the fantasy football front. Ive found Hall is much more available than most #1 dynasty picks. Jet stink - take advantage.
TLEF316
Footballguy
Yeah, that clown from PFF was clearly just trying to create clicks. Just a nobody saying stuff like "your team sucks ###!!!! Wilson was HORRIBLE. Draft another quarterback!!". Saying that running back was "the strongest part of their team". Total joke.
Yes, the Jets are an easy target...even for someone with an actual point to make. But when someone's claiming they should have drafted Malik Willis at 36 (when he eventually fell to 86) you obviously can't take him seriously.
He got what he wanted...a bunch of people watched the video and we're still talking about it 6 weeks later. Whatever.
Yes, the Jets are an easy target...even for someone with an actual point to make. But when someone's claiming they should have drafted Malik Willis at 36 (when he eventually fell to 86) you obviously can't take him seriously.
He got what he wanted...a bunch of people watched the video and we're still talking about it 6 weeks later. Whatever.
rockaction
Footballguy
You guys are going to get a kick out of this. Remember last year when Sam and Carolina beat Houston and everyone was ready to anoint him a savior of the franchise. This is more like what they got. Looks familiar to Jets fans.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1534577931233656833
https://twitter.com/i/status/1534577931233656833
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
What if by some miracle he did? Some guys need years for the light switch to turn on. Sam's problem isn't arm talent or mobility, it's reading defenses and confidence. I wonder if he'll ever have the processing speed necessary for what he needs to do to be successful. His stats don't bode well historically from what I've seen. (Chase Stuart at Football Perspective is a Jets fan who often tweets historical comparisons of guys to similar players, and it never looked good for Sam. Wonder what Zach's stats look like.)
Come to think of it, he's on the boards here. I wonder if we could miraculously summon @Chase Stuartfrom the hinterlands to give us some insight about the Jets. I'll try, anyway. Chase, if you read this, sure would love to see who Wilson historically looks like after twelve or so games.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Even when teams have success, I think part of is an anti-NY bias and another part of it that NY teams bring a lot of fans to troll for attention/hits. Look at the Rangers. Second in their division, ahead of schedule in their rebuild, and now in the Conference finals. You have people constantly taking shots at them for a multitude of reasons. Why? Because if you attack the team and the fan-base, it becomes a lightning rod for attention.
That said, the Jets have enough history of ineptitude that they don't need additional reasons to be trolled.
Success will definitely things for the better, but I think it will be different than for a team from say Cincinnati. NY teams will have more haters (even from intra-city rivals that may not even be real rivals).
Kiddnets
Footballguy
agree but the Jets have a deeper stigma - the Giants have been just as bad the past 5 years and even they arent as laughed at as the Jets. They are a walking joke of a franchise and it will take some serious winning to shake that ala Cincy. That being said - I think they start moving fwd this year and will be buying on the cheap before others start seeing this is a new franchise.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
No kidding about @rockaction killing the Rangers. 0-3 since then.
Please no Wilson comments this year.
Please no Wilson comments this year.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
TLEF316
Footballguy
The team played a golf outing at my club yesterday. I swung by at lunch to see if i could spot anyone but they were all out on the course. Saw some BIG dudes on the 3rd green from the road, but not sure who it was.
Was a little disappointing at the level of cars in the parking lot. Mostly tricked out SUV's. Figured I'd see a few high end luxury rides or some crazy ferraris or something but no such luck
Was a little disappointing at the level of cars in the parking lot. Mostly tricked out SUV's. Figured I'd see a few high end luxury rides or some crazy ferraris or something but no such luck
rockaction
Footballguy
Makes no sense to own those in the Northeast, really. You'd have to garage it the whole year.
rockaction
Footballguy
Kiddnets
Footballguy
There were times the Jets were known for big time offense...Walker/Toon/McNeil; Curtis MArtin/Keyshawn/Chrbet; Ivory/Decker/Marshall.....on paper this O can stack up to them but as always it depends on the QB. You could have all the pieces but if Zach doesnt develop it will be same old. Unlike Darnold I am confident we will know where Zach stands by the end of the year. If all things click this could be a big time O.Jets a top 10 offense?
https://twitter.com/djbienaime/status/1536786323473940483?s=21&t=EIfBQdM8_2rONQmEYOcoPA
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Becton clapping back at critics while wearing a shirt mocking all the criticisms about him being out of shape and a possible bust while he still cant practice almost a year later from a 8 week injury and appearing clearly out of shape is one of the strangest things Ive seen in a while.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I mean a guy his size that can't work out because of a knee injury is going to gain weight. I think he's taking way too much abuse over this and I don't blame him for pushing back a bit.
If he's not ready for training camp that's another story - and from what I read his knee is better but the team needs to get him into "football shape." I'm not saying there's no concerns at all, but I think it's been blown way out of proportion.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Im not trying to join the over react crowd but if youre going to push back at critics saying you are out of shape shouldnt you at least be in shape? Even Saleh who throws around praises like candy was very lukewarm when talking about Becton - I think the concerns are legit at this point and until he shows that he is healthy and in shape they will continue. Depth at OL has to be addressed.
sheerterror
Footballguy
Not sure what was the better look: wearing the shirt saying he was fat, lazy, out of shape etc while sweating through it so bad it looked like he just got done with a swim meet........or the video clip SNY put out of him "stretching" where it clearly took him a full 15 seconds to get off the ground.
We're 8 months removed from this injury which is what - 4x as long as anyone originally thought? He's now gone through an entire offseason of "working out" with his acclaimed o-line coach, making sure to document it, change his twitter handle and draw as much attention to it as possible - and THIS is what shows up? Come on. He was only off his feet so long. There's more than enough ways to NOT balloon up to 400lbs, which includes caring enough about your profession that you realize its a 24hr/day job, and not just the 90 minute workouts you post about on social media.
Boomer said this AM he had heard that he was up over 400lbs by end of last season. He looks every bit of that right now. Even if he comes into camp in shape - this entire saga has to draw major, major questions to both his maturity and his work ethic. And if he's doing this in an environment run by coach Saleh, who (along with JD) by all accounts has created a very high compete/character locker room, it's even more damning IMO.
TLEF316
Footballguy
100%. He's always gonna be a HUGE guy, even by o-line status. That's what the Jets signed up for and they knew that.
There are some rumblings that the publicly reported injury time table was WAY off and that missing the entire season was not unexpected (which I think we all agree was the likely outcome WATCHING the injury. It had "done for the year" written all over it). So....ok.
BUT......if you're gonna "clap back" at "the haters"....you gonna show SOMETHING. And he looked like an absolute beached whale in that video that got out yesterday. That didn't look a guy who just needs a few of weeks to play himself into football shape. It looked like a guy who has absolutely let himself go from a conditioning standpoint. Sure, he's still strong...so he can post videos of himself carrying 400 lb barbells on tik tok. But if you can barely move on the field...who cares?
Hope he proves me wrong. But I'm VERY nervous.
There are some rumblings that the publicly reported injury time table was WAY off and that missing the entire season was not unexpected (which I think we all agree was the likely outcome WATCHING the injury. It had "done for the year" written all over it). So....ok.
BUT......if you're gonna "clap back" at "the haters"....you gonna show SOMETHING. And he looked like an absolute beached whale in that video that got out yesterday. That didn't look a guy who just needs a few of weeks to play himself into football shape. It looked like a guy who has absolutely let himself go from a conditioning standpoint. Sure, he's still strong...so he can post videos of himself carrying 400 lb barbells on tik tok. But if you can barely move on the field...who cares?
Hope he proves me wrong. But I'm VERY nervous.
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rockaction
Footballguy
I'm actually more than nervous and was ready to move on in the draft. It's not like you can go down to the river, pan for gold, and grab a left tackle these days. You can go down to the river all right, but there's no gold there anymore. And no good or even average left tackles left available in the NFL.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I guess Jets fans are just so used to getting beaten down, everything worries them. Until I see him not ready for training camp I'll continue to think of this as an over-reaction. I really do not think the JD would go without addressing the position if he was concerned.
sheerterror
Footballguy
I understand your position, but I also think you are selling this situation a little short by generalizing it as "everything worries us."
For as big of a year as we can all agree this is for Wilson's development and future, it's troubling to see the current state the most important piece of our offensive line is in, and has been in for at least 5 months. He's made zero progress since week 1 of last year. Instead of the ACTUAL offseason, he now has to use this time to [hopefully] get to training camp weight, and then use training camp to get into playing shape. Where's the development? Where's the reps to build cohesiveness with the rest of the line? Just lit a year of his career (and rookie deal) on fire as far as potential IMPROVEMENT is concerned, simply needing the time to recover from the laziness of ballooning up because of a knee injury. It's inexcusable regardless of how he turns up in camp IMO.
This is the equivalent of a fighter allowing himself to get out of shape in between fights, then needing a training camp to get into some sort of shape, versus allowing that time to be for technical/tactical development specific to the next fight. Is the knee still injured? If he was rehabbed properly, then what's the excuse for being in the current condition he's in? If he's still injured and needs to be off the knee and hence the weight gain, then I'll ask, wtf has he been doing for the last 8 months?
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
His knee injury is what caused him to be out of shape - because he's recovered slowly means he's not rehabbing properly? How do we know that? Just because a moron like Boomer Esiason says something, I'm not going to just believe it.
Of course it would be better if he was healthy and in-shape, but the current time-line says he'll be ready for training camp. If he's not and/or he's struggling then, I'll be concerned.
This is a very odd phenomenon to me. It's like everyone is just ready to throw a guy that looked very good as a rookie in the trash because he got injured.
rockaction
Footballguy
No, it's just really worrisome. From the end of the first year, he expressed a desire to not play for the Jets. Not no desire to play for them, but a desire not to play. That's bad. Couple that with everything he's done, and it's a real cluster of bad things going on.
I personally would love to see him in good shape and contributing. I think that's what everybody hopes. I don't think we want to throw him in the trash, but this guy has lit huge bonfires and called the smoke nothing. I doubt that he's ready by the year's beginning, and if so, I doubt his effectiveness is anything to speak of at first.
It's too bad. He graded out well his first year when he was healthy. They even had PFF doing mea culpas about the pick. Turns out they might have been right in the first place.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
TLEF316
Footballguy
While the injury/out of shape stuff is my main concern, the reports out of camp last year (pre injury) were HORRIBLE. I get that its limited contact, sometimes no pads (which limits a massive man like Becton) ....but Lawson (and apparently everyone else he went up against all Summer. I think he got smoked by Green Bay at the joint practice as well) beat him like he was a JV guy.
And all the "I can get in shape whenever I want....just need to need to eat right and drink a lot of water" talk is NOT a good sign. If its sooooooo easy.....why haven't you done it? Just reeks of an undisciplined dude who has been making excuses for 6 months. The only difference is now he has to make them in front of the camera.
And even if he CAN just magically get in shape in a month......he's not gonna last long if he's spending his early 20's yoyo'ing up to 400 lbs every offseason.
And all the "I can get in shape whenever I want....just need to need to eat right and drink a lot of water" talk is NOT a good sign. If its sooooooo easy.....why haven't you done it? Just reeks of an undisciplined dude who has been making excuses for 6 months. The only difference is now he has to make them in front of the camera.
And even if he CAN just magically get in shape in a month......he's not gonna last long if he's spending his early 20's yoyo'ing up to 400 lbs every offseason.
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sheerterror
Footballguy
Actually, yes. 8 months post non surgical injury and gaining over 10% of your bodyweight (when you were already an at-risk case for needing to keep the weight in check) means you aren't rehabbing properly. You are making excuses for him. If his knee injury caused him to gain weight (because god forbid he could make a DIETARY commitment and not just a physical commitment, especially when the physical commitment was hindered) and that weight gain continued to slow his rehab to the point where he's in the current shape he is - then what has he been doing this entire time? How can you not question his motivation or competitiveness? Carl Lawson ruptured his achilles tendon. He didn't come back weighing 320 and looking like he was going to have a heart attack from standing up.
This isn't me throwing the guy away or hoping I'm right or that he busts. It's calling it like it is. I pray he's the guy we think we drafted. I pray he's the guy that Baldy has to break down every week cause he's wrecking people. But he's not really doing himself any favors right now to inspire confidence that he can be that guy still, especially for any sustainable period of time. Good thing I'm just a guy on the couch though.
sheerterror
Footballguy
I forgot about this. For some reason I thought the initial reports were he was killing it in camp, and then it seemed like everything turned bad for him. At any rate, this kind of piggybacks what I said in a post or 2 above, that instead of spending this offseason maybe improving footwork and technique to actually progress in his craft, he's spent it 'rehabbing' and [unsuccessfully] chasing the weight monster away. Conversely, you look at an Andrew Thomas on the Giants who went from year 1 bust to progressing very nicely into a trustworthy starting to tackle in year 2, and now the Giants have reasonable expectations for him to continue his improvement into a top 10 T in the league.
rockaction
Footballguy
I'm trying to find it and can't. Maybe it was somebody else. But I don't think so. He had a problem with how Gase ran the team, IIRC. He let it slip he would have no problem leaving the Jets, and it seemed to be an active thing rather than a passive thing.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Kiddnets
Footballguy
I dont remember saying he didnt want to play for the Jets - but the latest facts are
Solid rookie season - since then though
Last TC - smoked by Lawson daily....smoked by GB in JT practices....looked les than elite rest of TC
Injured a few minutes intothe season - designated as a 8 week injury and was out the season
Saleh who is the biggest rah rah coach of all time states that LT is a toss up and Becton has to earn the spot
Still gimpy and massively out of shape
Saleh again makes lukewarm statements about Becton while heaping praise on just about every one else - including mega bust Mims
Becton has a ridiculous PC mocking the critics who say he's out of shape while looking massively out of shape.
Im trying not to pile on but I dont see how you cant be seriously concerned....JD passed on an OL to give him another chance but I think he needs to sign another T ala last year just in case. I really hope the guy comes out swinging and proves us all wrong but the criticism is justified with the facts above
Solid rookie season - since then though
Last TC - smoked by Lawson daily....smoked by GB in JT practices....looked les than elite rest of TC
Injured a few minutes intothe season - designated as a 8 week injury and was out the season
Saleh who is the biggest rah rah coach of all time states that LT is a toss up and Becton has to earn the spot
Still gimpy and massively out of shape
Saleh again makes lukewarm statements about Becton while heaping praise on just about every one else - including mega bust Mims
Becton has a ridiculous PC mocking the critics who say he's out of shape while looking massively out of shape.
Im trying not to pile on but I dont see how you cant be seriously concerned....JD passed on an OL to give him another chance but I think he needs to sign another T ala last year just in case. I really hope the guy comes out swinging and proves us all wrong but the criticism is justified with the facts above
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I know this doesn't apply to you but I think a lot of Jets fans that call him a "bust" would rathe be right than have him prove them wrong. Sometimes I truly believe Jets' fans have gotten the team they deserve all these years since they suck just as bad as the team.
I don't want to come across as an apologist but I still think some of the "outrage" is a bit manufactured and looks past some of the reality of the situation.
I'll leave it at that and not comment about Becton again, unless I'm forced to admit that his critics were correct if he doesn't make it through training camp.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Jet fans are a strange bunch - the PTSD from getting let down for decades definitely have this almost self loathing complex. I go to all the home games and its like the crowd is almost waiting for that moment of when the Jets blow it or a big injury. Ive seen rabid fans start laughing insanely like the Joker and not be able to help themselves screaming "I told you (add player name here) is a bust or would get hurt" also lots of "its over - we stink" literally in the 1st quarter of a close game - its almost an act of self preservation. So many awful things over the years - it just damages you. some examples:
Don Shula cheats and leaves tarp off in AFCCG
Ken O'Brien over Marino
Gastineau roughing the passer up double digits on 4th and long in AFC Div game
Blair Thomas over Emmit Smith
Fake spike loss
PArcells having a RB throw a pass near the endzone in a must win game to get into playoffs
AFCCG in Denver and strange gust of wind leads to a collapse
Vinny blowing out achilles 1 game into being the favorite in the AFC
Herm kneeling instead of running a play for a 50 yd FG in Pitt - Doug Brien
Drafting a kicker in 2d rd
Giving Sanchez a monster deal despite knowing he wasnt that good
Butt Fumble
Geno getting punched in the face by his own teamate
QB in top 5 - sees ghosts and stinks
1st Rd top LT gets fat and cant stay on field
Living through the above may explain the negativity lol
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I’m not big into “karma” or fate or anything like that but it becomes some strange circle of self fulfilling prophecy where the negative vibes settle in and stay for a while. Do the fans feed off the team and the team feed off the fans?Kiddnets said:
Obviously I’m not blaming the fans for the Jets inadequacies. The incompetence of the team is what drove the fans to PTSD (as you said) of course.
Oh and you left off “I resign as HC of the NYJ.”
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TLEF316
Footballguy
The team played a golf outing at my club yesterday. I swung by at lunch to see if i could spot anyone but they were all out on the course. Saw some BIG dudes on the 3rd green from the road, but not sure who it was.
Was a little disappointing at the level of cars in the parking lot. Mostly tricked out SUV's. Figured I'd see a few high end luxury rides or some crazy ferraris or something but no such luck
So...not sure if Monday was just a team outing (or whether the coaches played as well) but Coach Saleh was back at the club on Thursday morning (apparently he was a guest of one of the members).
My buddy was next to him on the range and described his warm up as "very intense and focused, but clearly not indicative of someone who plays a lot of golf". So I guess that bodes well for him as our football coach.
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NYRAGE
Footballguy
Actually, his "biggest" issue is with all of the idiot "fans" that give him crap on social media constantly. It's an onslaught of idiots replying to his tweets or tagging him.
I personally don't have a lot of faith in the guy, but hey, if it motivates him, then go for it. I'll believe it when I see it.
This whole situation with his injury and weight is odd to say the least. Even when healthy, the guy seemed to get hurt just about every game. I have serious concerns about him and our situation if we don't get a veteran swing tackle. I doubt our 4th round rookie will be ready and McDermott & Edoga are vomit-worthy.
NYRAGE
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NYRAGE
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