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Many are feeling the pain of Breece Hall this morning, I know it hurts worse when you are a fan of the Jets but we were all enjoying watching him play and he was a big reason the Jets were and are turning the corner. I hope people realize he was not the whole team and that maybe this will kick start the passing game a little more.

I hope the Jets decide to make a move before the trade deadline and double down on their 5-2 start. There are RBs to be had out there, Hall might not be cleared to start 2023 and he likely will be healing vs practicing much of the off season. I don't think it would be a bad move if the Jets went out and tried to acquire another RB but not anything like CMC or that type of deal.

Hunt is still sitting around and Cleveland is slowly reading the tea leaves on what will be left when they get Watson back, might be out of the Playoff race. There are many names out there, I hope the Jets become aggressive.

NEP
BUF
@ NEP next 3 games, those 2 vs the Patriots are going to be very important. Will be hard to beat the Bills

Good Luck and stay aggressive
interesting match - JD treats draft picks like gold so unless its a deal on the cheap Im not sure he makes a deal like that - however after a decade of losing and a very manageable schedule they may decide to invest in the season.

I personally would like to see them keep all their draft capital in case they need to make a run at a QB next year - let ZW take control of the O without a stud RB safety net to see what they have - if they spiral it will stink but at least they know.
 
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If Hall is indeed done and Zach has to carry the offense (I like Michael Carter, but he isn't gonna carry this team)....I think we're in trouble.
Definitely agree. The only positive to come out of this is that they will now need to rely on Zach to win games - so we'll get to see if he can be successful with the training wheels off.
Yes - hard to see this remaining a run-heavy team with Breece out of the picture. Carter can't carry the load himself and Ty is also just a complementary piece.
unless they trade for a RB (and I don’t see that), they will have no choice but to open up the passing attack. Like you said Carter is a very nice back but he can’t carry a team and Ty is a JAG. I can’t really feel confident right now about a Wilson-centric offense but at some point it would have needed to happen (or we’d need to see it fail) anyway, so we will at least get to see if Zach is the man going into 2023. I sure hope he is.
 
I personally would like to see them keep all their draft capital in case they need to make a run at a QB next year - let ZW take control of the O without a stud RB safety net to see what they have - if they spiral it will stink but at least they know.
I’d actually be annoyed if they used draft picks on a one year rental RB. Lat Murray walks off the street and moves the ball when he gets it.
Maybe bring Coleman back if he’s on the SF practice squad or another SF castoff and let Zach cook. I’d hate to waste a 5-2 start but this team isn’t a true contender yet - can’t “wast” draft picks.
Great point on possibly needing the ammunition to find a QB as they are obviously not getting a top 5 pick again this year.
 
Also when it comes to trading for a RB, while McCaffrey is one of the best in the league, the SF/CAR trade established a pretty high market value for a RB. Hunt and Mattison are free agents next off-season so that’s one difference but I can’t imagine McCaffreys $20 MM a year contract was a major selling point for the trade.
 
What are your thoughts on Elijah Moore becoming a RB the rest of the year? Or how about he gets his wish to touch the ball more like a Deebo Samuel?
I know he's not Deebo but he is pretty good when he gets the ball in his hands, maybe he would like to try a few hand offs and save you all a draft pick.

Was just something I was thinking about, might be a terrible idea and I've had many.

Saw Corey Davis might have a sprained MCL so Moore is going to be involved anyways, he's not going anywhere and I expect him to apologize at a press conference today or tomorrow and accept his role in whatever capacity the team needs him.
 
AVT done for year with torn triceps - shoot me now

Yeah....I think we're just about done now. Unfreaking real.

Cursed franchise and you will never convince me otherwise. Looking at tee times for Sunday as we speak. We all know how that game is going.
 
saw this scout assessment on zach wilson after last season and to me, it is amazingly accurate;

Athletic and energetic signal caller with good arm strength, but struggles to accurately drive the ball downfield downfield and does not bring needed continuity. Passer first and a runner second. Well-schooled mechanics and decent play-action fake. Competitive and poised. Will stand in there. Shows ability to go through progressions, but too often breaks down under pressure and the play does not net yield a positive outcome. Has excellent escapability under pressure and can take off and pick up yardage. Has some Houdini to him, but lacks accuracy when flushed out. Good arm strength. Accuracy and ball placement leave a lot to be desired at all three route levels. Tries to hard to steer the ball at times. Throws too many dangerous passes. Hesitates at times and that knocks off the offense’s timing. Does not know always know what he is seeing in coverages. Struggles to put together sustained drives. Looks overwhelmed. Eventually will transition into a back-up role and will not see a second contract with the Jets.
 
I mean....is there someplace I can place a bet on a Sauce Gardner torn Achilles for this weekend? Because its pretty clear that's where we're headed.

Then next week I can clean up with the Garret Wilson broken ankle superfecta.
 
Take back my comment about trading a pick for a running back. Without AVT, they're not gonna be able to protect and move the ball anyway, so its a moot point.

Honestly guessing they finish like 7-10 now.
 
Take back my comment about trading a pick for a running back. Without AVT, they're not gonna be able to protect and move the ball anyway, so its a moot point.

Honestly guessing they finish like 7-10 now.
i wouldn’t panic here, but it’s easy to think this season ends poorly. honestly, they are winning with defense and offensively they are pretty brutal. they didn’t lose any defensive players and i can argue reed and gardner will make them go. the line to me was already a mess, so losing avt hurts, but you can find a big fat guy somewhere to plug in. mitchell may be back soon. there is someone somewhere on some practice squad. hall is the big injury, but if the qb can’t play, none of anything really matters and at this point, i still don’t know if he can play. if the jets had a top7 qb, these injuries are bumps in the road but with a bottom 1/3 qb, they won’t be able to overcome. if wilson can compensate, we’ll know a lot but they may simply be looking for a qb next offseason and it wouldn’t have mattered anyway.
 
Its awful but what a test for ZW and Saleh....They need to circle the wagons and find a way to win some games. Will be a tall order to beat NE/Buff next 2 weeks but a needed bye after with winnable games vs Bears, Jax, Lions, Seahawks and Fins. Thats potentially 8-10 wins if they take anywhere from 3-5 of those - I think we all would have signed up for that. Not to mention we should have a good idea on ZW so can finally make a QB decision for the future and see how this coaching staff deals with it....
 
Wow, what a day. Our best two offensive players gone for the year. I don't have much to say that wouldn't be obvious. I feel awful. First time in a long time as a fan of sports (and this is in any sport) that I truly have my mood affected by yesterday's resultant effects. And that's with a win.

Zach isn't inspiring any confidence. Problem is, they've won five games and will likely win another two, leaving them with a draft location somewhat north of a top-flight quarterback.

Let's face it -- as much as I defend him, Zach has too many flaws in his game. Are you willing to wait another year and draft hoping that he changes his mechanics, learns to read defenses, and becomes Josh Allen? I wouldn't bet on that.
 
saw this scout assessment on zach wilson after last season and to me, it is amazingly accurate;

Athletic and energetic signal caller with good arm strength, but struggles to accurately drive the ball downfield downfield and does not bring needed continuity. Passer first and a runner second. Well-schooled mechanics and decent play-action fake. Competitive and poised. Will stand in there. Shows ability to go through progressions, but too often breaks down under pressure and the play does not net yield a positive outcome. Has excellent escapability under pressure and can take off and pick up yardage. Has some Houdini to him, but lacks accuracy when flushed out. Good arm strength. Accuracy and ball placement leave a lot to be desired at all three route levels. Tries to hard to steer the ball at times. Throws too many dangerous passes. Hesitates at times and that knocks off the offense’s timing. Does not know always know what he is seeing in coverages. Struggles to put together sustained drives. Looks overwhelmed. Eventually will transition into a back-up role and will not see a second contract with the Jets.
To my untrained eyes, this review looked very much like Wilson last year, and many of those problems - particularly getting flustered or panicked when protection fails or he is trying to make something from a broken play and the ball goes out hard and errant, were apparent. The running game has helped take pressure off him, but I think he has looked better in all regards this year. I don't think there is any reason to draw the conclusion pushed in the last sentence above. I don't doubt it will take more time, but I also don't feel like he has settled into the full speed of the game. Until we see what he is showing once he's as comfortable as he will get, I don't see how anyone can tell the future. I think he has clearly shown enough continuing improvement to let him develop.

He's a 2nd year QB from a weaker college schedule who missed a lot of time last year to injury. Fields, from a far tougher college conference looks horrible in comparison. Lawrence, from a similarly tough and pressure laden conference to Fields is growing too, maybe a full step ahead of Wilson. Half of Florida was calling for Tua's removal 5 games ago. I don't think we'll know until he has some semblance of a healthy OL and has played enough to feel comfortable in the situation. I think there is a lot of talent and willingness to work in there. Writing him off at this point and heading back into the Darnold, Mayfield, Dalton, PJ Walker, Heinicke or re-mortgage your team's future to draft a shiny new rookie QB and start over ... seems a far worse course than giving this physically talented kid who is at least contributing to, if not responsible for, one of the team's best runs in decades, every reasonable chance before claiming to have decided his future at that he's destined to fail.
 
saw this scout assessment on zach wilson after last season and to me, it is amazingly accurate;

Athletic and energetic signal caller with good arm strength, but struggles to accurately drive the ball downfield downfield and does not bring needed continuity. Passer first and a runner second. Well-schooled mechanics and decent play-action fake. Competitive and poised. Will stand in there. Shows ability to go through progressions, but too often breaks down under pressure and the play does not net yield a positive outcome. Has excellent escapability under pressure and can take off and pick up yardage. Has some Houdini to him, but lacks accuracy when flushed out. Good arm strength. Accuracy and ball placement leave a lot to be desired at all three route levels. Tries to hard to steer the ball at times. Throws too many dangerous passes. Hesitates at times and that knocks off the offense’s timing. Does not know always know what he is seeing in coverages. Struggles to put together sustained drives. Looks overwhelmed. Eventually will transition into a back-up role and will not see a second contract with the Jets.
To my untrained eyes, this review looked very much like Wilson last year, and many of those problems - particularly getting flustered or panicked when protection fails or he is trying to make something from a broken play and the ball goes out hard and errant, were apparent. The running game has helped take pressure off him, but I think he has looked better in all regards this year. I don't think there is any reason to draw the conclusion pushed in the last sentence above. I don't doubt it will take more time, but I also don't feel like he has settled into the full speed of the game. Until we see what he is showing once he's as comfortable as he will get, I don't see how anyone can tell the future. I think he has clearly shown enough continuing improvement to let him develop.

He's a 2nd year QB from a weaker college schedule who missed a lot of time last year to injury. Fields, from a far tougher college conference looks horrible in comparison. Lawrence, from a similarly tough and pressure laden conference to Fields is growing too, maybe a full step ahead of Wilson. Half of Florida was calling for Tua's removal 5 games ago. I don't think we'll know until he has some semblance of a healthy OL and has played enough to feel comfortable in the situation. I think there is a lot of talent and willingness to work in there. Writing him off at this point and heading back into the Darnold, Mayfield, Dalton, PJ Walker, Heinicke or re-mortgage your team's future to draft a shiny new rookie QB and start over ... seems a far worse course than giving this physically talented kid who is at least contributing to, if not responsible for, one of the team's best runs in decades, every reasonable chance before claiming to have decided his future at that he's destined to fail.
it’s still early IMO and one thing to think about is that in college he was not a star his 1st 2 years, he was a game manager. his soph year saw him throw 11 tds vs 9 picks. he then became more as he got comfortable. so, maybe his learning curve is higher than others from better programs. no turnovers is a plus, but this is a passing league and at some point you’re gonna have to have some 300 yard games and have the team on your back.
 
Wow, what a day. Our best two offensive players gone for the year. I don't have much to say that wouldn't be obvious. I feel awful. First time in a long time as a fan of sports (and this is in any sport) that I truly have my mood affected by yesterday's resultant effects. And that's with a win.

Zach isn't inspiring any confidence. Problem is, they've won five games and will likely win another two, leaving them with a draft location somewhat north of a top-flight quarterback.

Let's face it -- as much as I defend him, Zach has too many flaws in his game. Are you willing to wait another year and draft hoping that he changes his mechanics, learns to read defenses, and becomes Josh Allen? I wouldn't bet on that.
This year is his audition in my mind. If he’s not significantly better as the season progresses, it’s time to at least consider bringing in real veteran competition or find a way to draft a QB.
 
Just read an article at The Athletic about possible substitutions for Hall and came away really unimpressed. This is what happens, I guess, when an RB is the focal point of your offense because he's so good. What a shame.

I nominate Jeff Wilson to come to New York. Or Alexander Mattison, even though he's always struck me as a bit of a plodder when I've seen him. Mattison would be probably more expensive to obtain that Wilson, and Doc Oc made a great point upthread in that SF set a pretty steep market for acquiring an RB.
 
it’s time to at least consider bringing in real veteran competition

I agree this year is when we audition him, but there doesn't seem to be a veteran available that could lead the team through the season and into the playoffs. People can say Jimmy G to their heart's content, but he's sort of foul at QB. We saw that against Denver and yesterday.

Denver makes guys look bad. The only problem with saying that is so does New England and Buffalo, and our next three games are against those two. It doesn't let up for Zach, really.
 
Ugh. Allow me to vent. Yesterday and today feel crazy because getting Hall in the second was a steal when you think about his impact and actual effect on the team and the game. But now that steal is for naught, and he's just another in the long line of cautionary tales about making a particular RB the centerpiece of an offense.

Bollocks.
 
it’s time to at least consider bringing in real veteran competition

I agree this year is when we audition him, but there doesn't seem to be a veteran available that could lead the team through the season and into the playoffs. People can say Jimmy G to their heart's content, but he's sort of foul at QB. We saw that against Denver and yesterday.

Denver makes guys look bad. The only problem with saying that is so does New England and Buffalo, and our next three games are against those two. It doesn't let up for Zach, really.
Yes, that was the same game Denver has played in every game this year. Their defense if for real, but like you said in the NFL it doesn’t necessarily get much easier the following week. Wilson needs to show better even against tough defenses.
 
come on guys - he's hardly garbage and we essentially gave up nothing for him. Good move by Joe. He and Carter can hold the fort. At the minimum it'll help Zach. Not about to lose the optimism now.
I think it’s a good move but not sure if the Achilles injury started slowing him down after a hot start- but he’s faded fast.

I do like the price tag and would rather have him than Ty Johnson getting carries so I’m ok with it, albeit not terribly excited either.
 
Lots of effort-filled four or five yard runs. He's molasses at this point.

And I like Robinson and his story. But he was clearly given a shot to regain his job in JAX and couldn't do it. One game he went 23-67 with a forty-nine yard run. That's. . .not good.
 
i love the deal - hes a solid RB that a bit of shine has come off since the injury - but hes a huge upgrade at the cost of pennies. If he balls out hes also an RFA that can be kept on the cheap as well. Gives ZW a bit more time and support - win/win

What is he an upgrade from? Everyone knows his first couple games were very fluky. Since then he has gone 22 carries for 81 yards over 4 games. Are you saying that is a "huge upgrade" over what Carter can get you?

My bet is Robinson can't take the bulk of the carries from Carter.
 
i love the deal - hes a solid RB that a bit of shine has come off since the injury - but hes a huge upgrade at the cost of pennies. If he balls out hes also an RFA that can be kept on the cheap as well. Gives ZW a bit more time and support - win/win

What is he an upgrade from? Everyone knows his first couple games were very fluky. Since then he has gone 22 carries for 81 yards over 4 games. Are you saying that is a "huge upgrade" over what Carter can get you?

My bet is Robinson can't take the bulk of the carries from Carter.

He probably won't, but Robinson is better than whoever else they have. I'd be happy with a 50/50 split. And if he's a bust? It's a late pick - a worthwhile gamble.
 
Many are feeling the pain of Breece Hall this morning, I know it hurts worse when you are a fan of the Jets but we were all enjoying watching him play and he was a big reason the Jets were and are turning the corner. I hope people realize he was not the whole team and that maybe this will kick start the passing game a little more.

I hope the Jets decide to make a move before the trade deadline and double down on their 5-2 start. There are RBs to be had out there, Hall might not be cleared to start 2023 and he likely will be healing vs practicing much of the off season. I don't think it would be a bad move if the Jets went out and tried to acquire another RB but not anything like CMC or that type of deal.

Hunt is still sitting around and Cleveland is slowly reading the tea leaves on what will be left when they get Watson back, might be out of the Playoff race. There are many names out there, I hope the Jets become aggressive.

NEP
BUF
@ NEP next 3 games, those 2 vs the Patriots are going to be very important. Will be hard to beat the Bills

Good Luck and stay aggressive
And those Patriot games sure look winnable all the sudden, Pats looked terrible last night.
 
Many are feeling the pain of Breece Hall this morning, I know it hurts worse when you are a fan of the Jets but we were all enjoying watching him play and he was a big reason the Jets were and are turning the corner. I hope people realize he was not the whole team and that maybe this will kick start the passing game a little more.

I hope the Jets decide to make a move before the trade deadline and double down on their 5-2 start. There are RBs to be had out there, Hall might not be cleared to start 2023 and he likely will be healing vs practicing much of the off season. I don't think it would be a bad move if the Jets went out and tried to acquire another RB but not anything like CMC or that type of deal.

Hunt is still sitting around and Cleveland is slowly reading the tea leaves on what will be left when they get Watson back, might be out of the Playoff race. There are many names out there, I hope the Jets become aggressive.

NEP
BUF
@ NEP next 3 games, those 2 vs the Patriots are going to be very important. Will be hard to beat the Bills

Good Luck and stay aggressive
And those Patriot games sure look winnable all the sudden, Pats looked terrible last night.
Should be a great under this week. Can’t believe NE is getting embarrassed on the run again, and the Jets D has really come on. Hoodie won’t let his qbs lose the game again, so they will run a lot more.
 
I love the trade, Robinson plays with a lot of Guts and appears to fit the mold perfect for this clubhouse. No one can replace Breece, but this should be an acceptable run game now. It's up to LeFleur now to scheme an O that can effectively get the ball out of Zach's hands in 2-3 seconds, quick slants etc, he holds the ball way too long waiting for the big play that doesn't come. Time to ramp up the TE game.
 
i love the deal - hes a solid RB that a bit of shine has come off since the injury - but hes a huge upgrade at the cost of pennies. If he balls out hes also an RFA that can be kept on the cheap as well. Gives ZW a bit more time and support - win/win

What is he an upgrade from? Everyone knows his first couple games were very fluky. Since then he has gone 22 carries for 81 yards over 4 games. Are you saying that is a "huge upgrade" over what Carter can get you?

My bet is Robinson can't take the bulk of the carries from Carter.
Hes a huge upgrade from Ty Johnson the #3 RB - not saying that its anything close to what they had before but Carter is solid and Johnson is a JAG. Carter will likely slide into the Hall 60% role with Robinson taking 40% unless he balls out.
 
Many are feeling the pain of Breece Hall this morning, I know it hurts worse when you are a fan of the Jets but we were all enjoying watching him play and he was a big reason the Jets were and are turning the corner. I hope people realize he was not the whole team and that maybe this will kick start the passing game a little more.

I hope the Jets decide to make a move before the trade deadline and double down on their 5-2 start. There are RBs to be had out there, Hall might not be cleared to start 2023 and he likely will be healing vs practicing much of the off season. I don't think it would be a bad move if the Jets went out and tried to acquire another RB but not anything like CMC or that type of deal.

Hunt is still sitting around and Cleveland is slowly reading the tea leaves on what will be left when they get Watson back, might be out of the Playoff race. There are many names out there, I hope the Jets become aggressive.

NEP
BUF
@ NEP next 3 games, those 2 vs the Patriots are going to be very important. Will be hard to beat the Bills

Good Luck and stay aggressive
And those Patriot games sure look winnable all the sudden, Pats looked terrible last night.
Should be a great under this week. Can’t believe NE is getting embarrassed on the run again, and the Jets D has really come on. Hoodie won’t let his qbs lose the game again, so they will run a lot more.
NE opens as a 1 point favorite. I know the Jets have no home field advantage, but i would’ve figured jets -3.5 here. it’s a trap!
 
The Robinson deal was a good one, but, Kareem Hunt being available for a fourth-rounder? I think that was the play.
I think we all know that Hunt is the better RB - but until we see Hunt traded we dont know for sure what they were asking for - i cant imagine Cleveland trading him without a potential 3rd coming back. Not to mention the difference in salaries - Hunt is a few million while Robinson is literally the cheapest player on the Jets...lastly Hunt is an UFA at end of year while Robinson is a RFA so would be pretty cheap to keep him if he does well.
 
Hello there Jets FBGs. Looks like Saleh managed to pull the plane...er Jets up just in time and is pulling the Zac Taylor routine after all. Really amazing from where the fan base was after the Bengals game

Anyway got a question - with your need for OL help now and the Bengals needing WR help with Chase's injury (and frankly needing a better WR4 before Chase's injury) it seems like things maybe have combined to make a rare player for player trade ahead of the deadline plausible. What would you say to a swap of Mims for guard Jackson Carman. Seems like a change of scenery could benefit them both.

I'll hang up and listen.
-QG
 
Hello there Jets FBGs. Looks like Saleh managed to pull the plane...er Jets up just in time and is pulling the Zac Taylor routine after all. Really amazing from where the fan base was after the Bengals game

Anyway got a question - with your need for OL help now and the Bengals needing WR help with Chase's injury (and frankly needing a better WR4 before Chase's injury) it seems like things maybe have combined to make a rare player for player trade ahead of the deadline plausible. What would you say to a swap of Mims for guard Jackson Carman. Seems like a change of scenery could benefit them both.

I'll hang up and listen.
-QG

I mean....they have to get SOMETHING for Mims at some point,(assuming they're really not gonna get ride of Moore) but Guard isn't the problem. Tomlinson hasn't been the super-consistent rock we hoped he'd be but they're not replacing him. And Herbig has been good at RG since they moved AVT :cry: to tackle.

Some rumblings that the Jets are looking at Tunsil. Dont see how that happens.
 
Thanks for the thoughtful reply @TLEF316 - figured the Jets would need a reserve guard with Vera-Tucker going down which is why I figured it could be a fit. Swapping guys who both seem to have fallen out of favor where they are to places with a need.
-QG
 
Thanks for the thoughtful reply @TLEF316 - figured the Jets would need a reserve guard with Vera-Tucker going down which is why I figured it could be a fit. Swapping guys who both seem to have fallen out of favor where they are to places with a need.
-QG

I mean....their guard depth certainly isn't great. Feeney looks hilarious but he's nothing special. Would assume they're gonna call someone up from the practice squad
 
Zach didn't look good today. It wasn't even that he was confused by coverages or that Belichick out-schemed the Jets or anything like that. He just completely, unprofessionally didn't take care of the ball from the end of the second quarter to the beginning of the fourth.

I guess those are the lumps you're going to take in your first year or so of actual starts, but that was especially painful today. I hope he learns you can't just flip the ball downfield and have it land incomplete.

He showed flashes today. I'll give him that. If you just looked at the stat line, you might have thought, "not bad" for his second time against Belichick, but it was harder to watch.

Thing is, if you get him in any sort of rhythm he can make great throws and be precise and accurate. I watched the game with my brother today. He's a Giant fan. Wilson made throws today that my brother was marveling at and then my brother was stunned by how he didn't take care of the football and threw hopping or off of his back foot into nowhere in that stretch of play. It nuked his whole day.

Oh well. I knew missing Breece would be huge. Perhaps -- perhaps -- there's a silver lining in all these clouds and that's that we'll get a full year to see if Zach has it or if he doesn't. This really doesn't fall on the coaching or GM right now. It's that you have a team that's sort of ready and a remedial quarterback.

PFF tweeted out the other day that when kept clean, Zach has one of the higher completion rates in the league. When under pressure, he's bad. Like Sam Monson pointed out it was historically bad, and that at some point you have to factor that in to any analysis about Zach (PFF claims that clean pocket stats are more predictive of QB success in the long run than stats under duress).

Anyway, another day, another dollar, another way to live with a life so intolerable. Meet the Jets.
 
there's a silver lining in all these clouds and that's that we'll get a full year to see if Zach has it or if he doesn't.

Yesterday was very discouraging after a very encouraging start to the game. There will be a lot of talk about turning to Mike White or Joe Flacco I'm sure. While "throwing away" a 5-3 start would be very tough after such a long playoff draught, they have to stick with Wilson and pray that he can cut down the bonehead throws. They absolutely need to evaluate his future with the team. If you bench him now you can't bring him back in 2023 as the starter. As, I've said the next QB (if necessary) will be stepping into a very nice situation, but obviously Zach being the franchise QB is the best case scenario. Let's face it, Mike White is a journeyman backup QB type that can find lightning in a bottle but will eventually get exposed and there's no way Joe Flacco can be effective behind an o-line in shambles - it's silly to think he's the answer.

It's so painful that this team just can't seem to find an answer at QB.
 
The Jets were absolutely the better team yesterday - Zach lost that game for them but honestly I'd rather have Wilson under center than Mac Jones who is clearly not a franchise QB either. Wilson has some upside at least (and admittedly a much lower floor) while Jones looks like a career backup to me.
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again - would LOVE to acquire Minshew this offseason to bring in some competent competition for Zach, while also serving as a more than serviceable backup who provides some actual upside.
 
Completely agree with Doc.

That was a brutal game to watch - and attend lol - ZW flat out lost the game for them (along with combo JFM/bad call) - Jets were better team clearly IMO.

As much as I would love to win and compete for a playoff spot this year they need to no doubt find out about ZW - if he flops, which looks likely after that performance, then so be it. They spent the 2d overall pick on this kid - gulp - that investment deserves an entire season....thats it though. If he looks this bad by the end of the year then time to move on
 
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