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Seems impossible- especially for an OL who can't put up traditional stats. But what if Purdy and CMC struggle, Lamar has a bad game and Detroit goes to Dallas and wins with Sewell completely shutting down Micah Parsons.....still won't happen but it would be cool if he at least gets his name in the conversation.
Thinking about an OL winning, and they absolutely should, its hard for most voters to quantify what they do
Since the AP began voting for MVP in 1957, the only offensive linemen to receive MVP votes were Duane Putnam in 1957 (LG Rams) and Larry Little in 1972 (RG Dolphins). An O-lineman is not going to stand a chance of winning, but since they expanded the voting process last year, someone might be able to pick up a vote. (Voters can now vote for their Top 5 players vs. only being able to vote for a single player).
I don’t think the LT vs RT really matters. Sewell just played Danielle Hunter who lines up against RTs and gave up 0 pressures. A couple weeks ago he had 20 pass rushes against either Bosa or Mack and gave up zero pressures. Maxx Crosby is another pass rusher who lines up on RTs. He was held to 1 pressure and 0 sacks (Maxx did give Sewell some trouble in the run game, Crosby is maybe the edge in the league right now).
I hear what you are saying, but NFL MVP voters aren't dumb. They KNOW why his numbers are going up and its probably not b/c he made some crazy progression (although I admit had has definitely progressed throughout his NFL career). And when you say "nobody downgrades their numbers" I'll say here I do for both Tua and Purdy to a degree. Esp Purdy, who was dogs*** on Christmas and then when Darnold came in, he *immediately* drove the team downfield for a touchdown. And had another drive at the end of the game where he was just the "latest plug n play QB" to be inserted into the SF system. Now, SF fans will prob poo poo me for saying this, but I'm definitely not alone in this theory.
I can get behind CMC as an MVP candidate . . . but he's not breaking the YFS record. He needs 578 yards in 2 games.
Yeah I mean he most likely WILL NOT for sure, but any time you get 2k+, 20+ TDs, its warrants heavy MVP consideration. I had the math wrong in my head on that my bad.
Nothing against Tua, but Tyreek Hill is their MVP IMHO. Tua's had a really good year and I love watching him play (I may not enjoy it so much this Sunday
), but their offense works on a whole different level when Hill plays.
I hear you and I dont disagree. Tyreek and CMC are probably the most worthy MVP candidates. But, it does usually go to a QB - right or wrong. The position is very clearly the most important position on the field.Nothing against Tua, but Tyreek Hill is their MVP IMHO. Tua's had a really good year and I love watching him play (I may not enjoy it so much this Sunday
The MVP voting for guys with 2000 YFS / 20 total TD has been all over the map . . .
One would think that . . . but voters have often voted for more than one player on the same team (when one of them ended up winning). Four times teammates finished first and second.
well, the distinction I draw in that situation of LT vs RT is the blindside block, but I'd be all for Sewell getting MVP consideration... its almost like take the best lineman on a given line and channel them into the award, zero problem doing that for Sewell and the lions are a great example of a team to do that for
Yep blindside is big but I think Goff is blind on both sides lol. Seriously though Decker handles the blindside but Sewell is the point of attack for the run game.
Record played a big role I think as Larry Johnson and Jonathan Taylor's teams didn't make the playoffs in those seasons. While Tomlinson and Davis were on #1 seeds.
I think they've made an effort to make it so the same player doesn't win both awards. Which seems fair to me.
Absolutely. Oh well, give Tua MVP then.
Flacco
Guy played like 3 snaps all year.
Mayfield too
Hamlin has played 17 snaps on defense and an additional 94 on special teams for a total of 111 on the season. That's down from a combined 922 snaps last year.
This is exactly how I feel. If the odds are rollercoastering each week b/c Dak/Tua/Purdy have a good/bad game, that to me, means their seasons aren't really all that MVP worthy to begin with. Good seasons? Sure. But comparatively speaking to past QB seasons of the past 10/15 years, they don't appear to be close.
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Yeah forget the body of work.
There have been 8 players that have rushed for 2K yards . . . 4 of them were MVP that season, 4 of them were not. Not that that really applies to CMC, as he isn't close to 2K rushing yards. A case certainly could be made that McCaffrey should be the MVP. The co-MVPs that happened were just flukes, as those seasons it turned out to be a tie. The voters didn't get together and decide to have co-winners.
The worst was Manning splitting with Steve McNair. That was just terrible when you look at the numbers.
To be fair: his receiving options are pretty horrible compared to other QBs with similiar records
How are his stats mediocre? He’s 6th in the league in total yards. More than Stafford. More tds as well.
19tds vs 7ints are pretty terrible stats for a QB whether you include his rushing totals or not. He is playing behind the 2nd best line in the NFL (Stafford average at best). The rams were written off at the start of the year because of the lack of talent. It's only his spectacular season that has made them a team nobody wants to face in the playoffs
Way less talent than LJ? You must be looking beyond the skill position players of which Kupp is still better than anything the ravens have and Nacua probably #2 RoY.
Zero? I keep forgetting that being a low draft pick always means the player has zero talent.
Your first paragraph makes no sense. It’s 2023. Rushing stats for a qb matter you can’t just pretend they don’t exist. Also Stafford has 23 tds to 9 picks, that’s not any better and he contributes nothing on the ground. I love watching Stafford play and I also expected the Rams to be a decent at best team this year. They’ve far exceeded that which is great. But a team scraping for a wildcard berth isn’t going to produce a MVP unless that guy is having a monster year. Team record does matter in this and as much as you want to ignore total stats and just focus on passing number’s Lamar’s are good enough in the context of his team having the best record in football for him to the rightful favorite IMO.
