2024-25 NBA Thread: for the second time, somebody in Dallas hits low percentage shot that leads to a generation of conspiracy theories (26 Viewers)

[Zow]

Still wondering how the Wolves pulled off getting Dillingham for a 2098 1st and a 2099 pick swap. I think his floor is a guy that'll be instant offense off bench. With an upside of a Tyrese Maxey/Damian Lillard. His per minute stats at UK as a freshman were very very good. I'm not really even sure why the Spurs didn't keep him.

I've thought the same but, as a Wolves fan, I'll take it!

 

[thecatch]

Still wondering how the Wolves pulled off getting Dillingham for a 2098 1st and a 2099 pick swap. I think his floor is a guy that'll be instant offense off bench. With an upside of a Tyrese Maxey/Damian Lillard. His per minute stats at UK as a freshman were very very good. I'm not really even sure why the Spurs didn't keep him.

Because that’s a pretty insane haul for the 8th pick in a terrible draft.

 

[msudaisy26]

Detroit, enjoy Hardaway. He was actually a great guy as a potential 6th man flamethrower, but for the last year or two it feels like he's always hurt or held back or his dad is trying to cause problems about his role.

He can catch and shoot, and he can take a rebound coast to coast. He can take a charge. Beyond that, not sure you get much.

He's probably the immediate second best player in Detroit since they suck, but that's not really a compliment to Timmy lol.

Lol he will most likely be bought out and Hardway isn't the second best player on any team.

 

[msudaisy26]

I like the what the Pistons are doing. Keep buying up these bad contracts and collect picks for them. I hope they take Wiggins too. Better than spending it on Bridges or Tobais etc.

 

[Desert_Power]

Named to the 2024 USA Basketball Men’s Select Team are Jalen Duren (Detroit Pistons), Cooper Flagg (Duke University), Langston Galloway (Free Agent), Nigel Hayes-Davis (Fenerbahçe, Turkey), Trayce Jackson-Davis (Golden State Warriors), Jaime Jaquez Jr. (Miami Heat), Brandon Miller (Charlotte Hornets), Trey Murphy (New Orleans Pelicans), Keegan Murray (Sacramento Kings), Brandin Podziemski (Golden State Warriors), Micah Potter (Utah Jazz/Salt Lake City Stars), Payton Pritchard (Boston Celtics), Jabari Smith Jr. (Houston Rockets), Jalen Suggs (Orlando Magic) and Amen Thompson (Houston Rockets).

 

[Desert_Power]

Nigel Hayes-Davis has quite the career path. Good for him.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Agent Rich Paul is calling teams and telling them NOT to take Bronny James. Or he'll go play in Australia.

I would buy a second round pick just to test that theory.

No you wouldn’t. Klutch has a ton of talent. If you ever want to sign one of them again you gotta play ball.

That power may wane when lebron retires.

I highly doubt Klutch is going away.

I don't think so either, but I would wager they aren't as influential once Lebron retires.

 

[the moops]

Agent Rich Paul is calling teams and telling them NOT to take Bronny James. Or he'll go play in Australia.

I would buy a second round pick just to test that theory.

No you wouldn’t. Klutch has a ton of talent. If you ever want to sign one of them again you gotta play ball.

That power may wane when lebron retires.

I highly doubt Klutch is going away.

I don't think so either, but I would wager they aren't as influential once Lebron retires.

I think in general NBA teams want to work with agents and not against them. Especially concerning a fringe 2nd round prospect. So while Klutch may not have as much influence once Lebron retires there are still teams out there hoping to lure one of their guys to their team.

 

[Yo Mama]

At least the Lakers know how to do some things right.

Rookie Dalton Knecht will get the #4 this year.

Knecht-4!!!

 

[msudaisy26]

Agent Rich Paul is calling teams and telling them NOT to take Bronny James. Or he'll go play in Australia.

I would buy a second round pick just to test that theory.

No you wouldn’t. Klutch has a ton of talent. If you ever want to sign one of them again you gotta play ball.

That power may wane when lebron retires.

I highly doubt Klutch is going away.

I don't think so either, but I would wager they aren't as influential once Lebron retires.

I think in general NBA teams want to work with agents and not against them. Especially concerning a fringe 2nd round prospect. So while Klutch may not have as much influence once Lebron retires there are still teams out there hoping to lure one of their guys to their team.

I have no problem with that, I think the first NBA player to play with his kid is a cool story, but damn know the room.

No one was taking a fringe draft guy like Bronny and ruining that moment. Klutch and the James camp had to come in and show how tough they are announcing he would play overseas if anyone took him.

Lame. Now instead of a cool moment it was forced.

 

[Capella]

Agent Rich Paul is calling teams and telling them NOT to take Bronny James. Or he'll go play in Australia.

I would buy a second round pick just to test that theory.

No you wouldn’t. Klutch has a ton of talent. If you ever want to sign one of them again you gotta play ball.

That power may wane when lebron retires.

I highly doubt Klutch is going away.

I don't think so either, but I would wager they aren't as influential once Lebron retires.

I think in general NBA teams want to work with agents and not against them. Especially concerning a fringe 2nd round prospect. So while Klutch may not have as much influence once Lebron retires there are still teams out there hoping to lure one of their guys to their team.

I have no problem with that, I think the first NBA player to play with his kid is a cool story, but damn know the room.

No one was taking a fringe draft guy like Bronny and ruining that moment. Klutch and the James camp had to come in and show how tough they are announcing he would play overseas if anyone took him.

Lame. Now instead of a cool moment it was forced.

He was getting drafted somewhere. Zack Lowe and Givony both said so in the past week. If Klutch didn’t have to do this they wouldn’t have.

That said it is lame to hear about.

 

[trader jake]

Agent Rich Paul is calling teams and telling them NOT to take Bronny James. Or he'll go play in Australia.

I would buy a second round pick just to test that theory.

No you wouldn’t. Klutch has a ton of talent. If you ever want to sign one of them again you gotta play ball.

That power may wane when lebron retires.

I highly doubt Klutch is going away.

I don't think so either, but I would wager they aren't as influential once Lebron retires.

I think in general NBA teams want to work with agents and not against them. Especially concerning a fringe 2nd round prospect. So while Klutch may not have as much influence once Lebron retires there are still teams out there hoping to lure one of their guys to their team.

I have no problem with that, I think the first NBA player to play with his kid is a cool story, but damn know the room.

No one was taking a fringe draft guy like Bronny and ruining that moment. Klutch and the James camp had to come in and show how tough they are announcing he would play overseas if anyone took him.

Lame. Now instead of a cool moment it was forced.

I felt the same way when Filipowski's controller was calling teams in the 1st round. "If ANYBODY takes my Kyle before Utah at #32, he's gonna go do a 2 year mission overseas." Shameful. At least she has her degree I guess.

 

[massraider]

Not me. He is the reason I'm a Boston fan today.

He is literally my hero.

The narrative for Stevens as a coach at the end was that he had lost the locker room, his message was no longer getting through to the players, and some of the players were mentally checked out and didn't listen to him. I suggest we consider where that info was coming from (the Boston media), which typically concentrates on the negative side of pretty much everything. However, I think the reality of the situation was some of the players weren't on the same page and / or were not great locker room guys and it was a player fit / harmony / culture problem.

If I had to guess, I would suggest Smart and Grant Williams weren't great team players (like Kyrie before them). I know a lot of fans loved Smart, but to me he seemed like he declared himself an equal and integral part of the Big Three while viewing himself as an on-court coach and the team's leader. Many people have suggested Grant never stopped talking and voicing his opinion from the first day he got there. Also, Kemba Walker seemed very indifferent and seemed happy to cash his sizable paycheck (he made $67 million over his two years in Boston). Maybe that's unfair to Walker and his balky knee, but I seem to remember him in and out of the lineup quite a bit and him always being day to day with knee soreness (and him tapping out in the playoffs).

Maybe the team does relate better with Mazzulla, but the team's attitude and performance seemed to get better without Smart / Williams / Kyrie and maybe a couple other players I can't remember on the team.

I have nothing but love for Marcus Smart, I thought he was awesome from day 1, and the only bummer in this season is he didn't get a ring.

Maybe they win it with him. The only thought I had was when the young guys got a little jumpy, Smart wasn't a calming influence. White and Jrue made a lot less mistakes than he did.

 

[msudaisy26]

Agent Rich Paul is calling teams and telling them NOT to take Bronny James. Or he'll go play in Australia.

I would buy a second round pick just to test that theory.

No you wouldn’t. Klutch has a ton of talent. If you ever want to sign one of them again you gotta play ball.

That power may wane when lebron retires.

I highly doubt Klutch is going away.

I don't think so either, but I would wager they aren't as influential once Lebron retires.

I think in general NBA teams want to work with agents and not against them. Especially concerning a fringe 2nd round prospect. So while Klutch may not have as much influence once Lebron retires there are still teams out there hoping to lure one of their guys to their team.

I have no problem with that, I think the first NBA player to play with his kid is a cool story, but damn know the room.

No one was taking a fringe draft guy like Bronny and ruining that moment. Klutch and the James camp had to come in and show how tough they are announcing he would play overseas if anyone took him.

Lame. Now instead of a cool moment it was forced.

He was getting drafted somewhere. Zack Lowe and Givony both said so in the past week. If Klutch didn’t have to do this they wouldn’t have.

That said it is lame to hear about.

In a normal circumstances I agree, but this is history for the NBA. No one wanted to ruin it and even if they thought about it let the commissioner's office make the call.

 

[Courtjester]

As a Denver fan I am glad LA drafted him. The dysfunction that is going to fall upon the Lakers is going to be glorious to watch.

Bron has picked his coaches, picked the FA's, now picked this draft pick. Do any of you believe that he won't start complaining if Bron Jr. isn't getting any playing time? I mean how is the 11th/12th guy on the bench (assuming he is making the roster) going to get much playing time with the 1st unit unless Bron starts demanding they be on the floor together? I can see a token play in a blow out game, but if he wants this to be a regular thing, that is going to ruffle some feathers with the other players and alienate the coaches.

 

[msudaisy26]

As a Denver fan I am glad LA drafted him. The dysfunction that is going to fall upon the Lakers is going to be glorious to watch.

Bron has picked his coaches, picked the FA's, now picked this draft pick. Do any of you believe that he won't start complaining if Bron Jr. isn't getting any playing time? I mean how is the 11th/12th guy on the bench (assuming he is making the roster) going to get much playing time with the 1st unit unless Bron starts demanding they be on the floor together? I can see a token play in a blow out game, but if he wants this to be a regular thing, that is going to ruffle some feathers with the other players and alienate the coaches.

He did this before with Shabazz Napier and the Heat and then left in free agency a couple weeks later.

 

[General Malaise]

As a Denver fan I am glad LA drafted him. The dysfunction that is going to fall upon the Lakers is going to be glorious to watch.

Bron has picked his coaches, picked the FA's, now picked this draft pick. Do any of you believe that he won't start complaining if Bron Jr. isn't getting any playing time? I mean how is the 11th/12th guy on the bench (assuming he is making the roster) going to get much playing time with the 1st unit unless Bron starts demanding they be on the floor together? I can see a token play in a blow out game, but if he wants this to be a regular thing, that is going to ruffle some feathers with the other players and alienate the coaches.

He did this before with Shabazz Napier and the Heat and then left in free agency a couple weeks later.

Blazer Great Shabazzzzzzzzzzz Napier!

Say it like Costanza says "Prognosis Negative" and it becomes way more fun.

 

[GOB]

Lots of people think the Magic get KCP. Not sure that really raises their ceiling on its own but Paolo taking the leap should. Beats giving 20 mpg to Fultz, if it happens.

If they sign kcp to like 50/2 I would think that gives them an upgrade over Harris and maintains flexibility to pivot next offseason depending on the leap from Paolo/Franz/Suggs.

If they throw 4 years at Klay, I'll cry in 4th seed.

Weak offseason to be a buyer but if it wasn't for bad luck, Orlando wouldn't have any.

 

[pollardsvision]

Damn the NBA is good.

8 pages now discussing a player that couldn't start for St. Bonaventure?

Next thing you know, this league will figure out how to make headlines out of Tatum's fart stain patterns.

ETA: Sorry, that was rude. Not going to shame anybody for liking what they like.

Just updating my notebook for anybody telling me women's basketball isn't worthy of discussion. I just popped in to see the high brow basketball discussion, and was a little shocked.

 

[SayWhat?]

Dejounte to the Pelicans for Daniels, Nance, and two 1sts.

 

[scoobus]

Damn the NBA is good.

8 pages now discussing a player that couldn't start for St. Bonaventure?

Next thing you know, this league will figure out how to make headlines out of Tatum's fart stain patterns.

Odd post for someone who probably wouldn't like people coming in and crapping in the wnba thread.

 

[Mister CIA]

Dejounte to the Pelicans for Daniels, Nance, and two 1sts.

That sounds a little tankish. I approve.

GSG!

 

[scoobus]

Dejounte to the Pelicans for Daniels, Nance, and two 1sts.

The 1sts are the Lakers 2025, and the least favorable of Bucks/Pels in 2027.

 

[General Malaise]

Damn the NBA is good.

8 pages now discussing a player that couldn't start for St. Bonaventure?

Next thing you know, this league will figure out how to make headlines out of Tatum's fart stain patterns.

Odd post for someone who probably wouldn't like people coming in and crapping in the wnba thread.

That ship sailed long ago....

 

[the moops]

As a Denver fan I am glad LA drafted him. The dysfunction that is going to fall upon the Lakers is going to be glorious to watch.

Bron has picked his coaches, picked the FA's, now picked this draft pick. Do any of you believe that he won't start complaining if Bron Jr. isn't getting any playing time? I mean how is the 11th/12th guy on the bench (assuming he is making the roster) going to get much playing time with the 1st unit unless Bron starts demanding they be on the floor together? I can see a token play in a blow out game, but if he wants this to be a regular thing, that is going to ruffle some feathers with the other players and alienate the coaches.

He’s not going to play unless he is good. This is a super cool story about a dad, who happens the be one the greatest to ever play, playing on the same team as his son. Enjoy it

 

[the moops]

Dejounte to the Pelicans for Daniels, Nance, and two 1sts.

Considering what Brooklyn just got for Bridges this seems like a pretty weak return.

 

[Moe.]

So is Trey Young next or does this mean he stays? They are too good as is to tank.

 

[Jayrod]

Damn the NBA is good.

8 pages now discussing a player that couldn't start for St. Bonaventure?

Next thing you know, this league will figure out how to make headlines out of Tatum's fart stain patterns.

Odd post for someone who probably wouldn't like people coming in and crapping in the wnba thread.

That ship sailed long ago....

I've been intentionally focused on being nice in there....by basically not commenting.

 

[Jayrod]

So is Trey Young next or does this mean he stays? They are too good as is to tank.

Probably depends on the offers they could get. I'd put it at 60/40 he stays.

 

[thecatch]

Dejounte to the Pelicans for Daniels, Nance, and two 1sts.

The 1sts are the Lakers 2025, and the least favorable of Bucks/Pels in 2027.

That's pretty cheap.

 

[the moops]

So is Trey Young next or does this mean he stays? They are too good as is to tank.

They finished with the 10th worst record last year and just traded away their 2nd best player. They don’t have to try too hard to be bad

 

[Capella]

That Murray trade is crazy. Wow. He’s not a superstar but I assumed he had more value than that. I guess Trae is next?

 

[Major]

So is Trey Young next or does this mean he stays? They are too good as is to tank.

They finished with the 10th worst record last year and just traded away their 2nd best player. They don’t have to try too hard to be bad

They did just get the first pick in the draft though. A lot depends if Risacher is ready.

Still crazy to me they'd dump Dejounte for that after giving up so much for him. Guess this is typical Atlanta Hawks operating procedure.

 

[Major]

As a Denver fan I am glad LA drafted him. The dysfunction that is going to fall upon the Lakers is going to be glorious to watch.

Bron has picked his coaches, picked the FA's, now picked this draft pick. Do any of you believe that he won't start complaining if Bron Jr. isn't getting any playing time? I mean how is the 11th/12th guy on the bench (assuming he is making the roster) going to get much playing time with the 1st unit unless Bron starts demanding they be on the floor together? I can see a token play in a blow out game, but if he wants this to be a regular thing, that is going to ruffle some feathers with the other players and alienate the coaches.

He’s not going to play unless he is good. This is a super cool story about a dad, who happens the be one the greatest to ever play, playing on the same team as his son. Enjoy it

Meh. I can see him getting playing time over more deserving players.

 

[Frostillicus]

The difference between what the gave for Murray vs what the got for him is staggering.

 

[Juxtatarot]

So is Trey Young next or does this mean he stays? They are too good as is to tank.

They finished with the 10th worst record last year and just traded away their 2nd best player. They don’t have to try too hard to be bad

They did just get the first pick in the draft though. A lot depends if Risacher is ready.

Still crazy to me they'd dump Dejounte for that after giving up so much for him. Guess this is typical Atlanta Hawks operating procedure.

Sunk cost fallacy?

 

[the moops]

A lot depends if Risacher is ready.

He most certainly is not

 

[Major]

A lot depends if Risacher is ready.

He most certainly is not

I'll take your word for it. I can't speak on him. Haven't seen him play outside of highlights.

 

[Kev4029]

Lots of people think the Magic get KCP. Not sure that really raises their ceiling on its own but Paolo taking the leap should. Beats giving 20 mpg to Fultz, if it happens.

If they sign kcp to like 50/2 I would think that gives them an upgrade over Harris and maintains flexibility to pivot next offseason depending on the leap from Paolo/Franz/Suggs.

If they throw 4 years at Klay, I'll cry in 4th seed.

Weak offseason to be a buyer but if it wasn't for bad luck, Orlando wouldn't have any.

I think the Nuggets would resign KCP to something similar to 2/50. I think the concern is somebody going 3/90 or something.

 

[Major]

So is Trey Young next or does this mean he stays? They are too good as is to tank.

They finished with the 10th worst record last year and just traded away their 2nd best player. They don’t have to try too hard to be bad

They did just get the first pick in the draft though. A lot depends if Risacher is ready.

Still crazy to me they'd dump Dejounte for that after giving up so much for him. Guess this is typical Atlanta Hawks operating procedure.

Sunk cost fallacy?

Sure but you'd think they could get a similar return given the current NBA trade market and what guys like Bridges commanded.

 

[Kev4029]

So is Trey Young next or does this mean he stays? They are too good as is to tank.

I still think he ends up in San Antonio.

 

[Mister CIA]

So is Trey Young next or does this mean he stays? They are too good as is to tank.

I still think he ends up in San Antonio.

Nope or cope.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

So is Trey Young next or does this mean he stays? They are too good as is to tank.

They finished with the 10th worst record last year and just traded away their 2nd best player. They don’t have to try too hard to be bad

They did just get the first pick in the draft though. A lot depends if Risacher is ready.

Still crazy to me they'd dump Dejounte for that after giving up so much for him. Guess this is typical Atlanta Hawks operating procedure.

Risacher is 100% not ready to make them any better this year

 

[Yo Mama]

I just knew a Lakers draft pick would end up being traded to get Murray.

 

[Yo Mama]

Deangelo Russell picked up his $18.7M player option. Good news for the Lakers who can now include him in trades.

Lots of big team and player option decisions due tomorrow.

 

[Yo Mama]

From Twitter:

“Putting together official decisions and reports, these are the remaining options to be decided on by tomorrow's deadline:

G. Mathews - ATL - TO
S. Hauser - BOS - TO
N. Queta - BOS - TO
D. Bertans - CHA - ETO
T. Craig - CHI - PO
C. Metu - DET - TO
S. Umude - DET - TO
J. Green - HOU - TO
J. Tate - HOU - TO
P. George - LAC - PO
K. Jones - LAC - TO
R. Westbrook - LAC - PO
J. Hayes - LAL - PO
L. James - LAL - PO
C. Reddish - LAL - PO
D. Russell - LAL - PO
L. Kennard - MEM - TO
Y. Watanabe - MEM - PO
T. Bryant - MIA - PO
K. Love - MIA - PO
C. Martin - MIA - PO
D. Jeffries - NYK - TO
J. Sims - NYK - TO
I. Joe - OKC - TO
A. Wiggins - OKC - TO
J. Ingles - ORL - TO
M. Wagner - ORL - TO
J. Dowtin - PHI - TO
D. Lee - PHX - PO
D. Banton - POR - TO
R. Holmes - WAS - PO
T. Vukcevic - WAS - TO

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[Frostillicus]

[Stein] Amid a growing belief leaguewide that Thompson's relationship with the Golden State Warriors is irretrievable, strong mutual interest between Thompson and the Dallas Mavericks is expected when free agency opens Sunday evening, league sources tell The Stein Line.

 

[Kev4029]

Deangelo Russell picked up his $18.7M player option. Good news for the Lakers who can now include him in trades.

Lots of big team and player option decisions due tomorrow.

I'm actually a little surprised. He had quite a bit of internal and external leverage to get more money.

 

[Yo Mama]

Deangelo Russell picked up his $18.7M player option. Good news for the Lakers who can now include him in trades.

Lots of big team and player option decisions due tomorrow.

I'm actually a little surprised. He had quite a bit of internal and external leverage to get more money.

Yeah me too. I thought for sure he’d opt out.

 

[the moops]

[Stein] Amid a growing belief leaguewide that Thompson's relationship with the Golden State Warriors is irretrievable, strong mutual interest between Thompson and the Dallas Mavericks is expected when free agency opens Sunday evening, league sources tell The Stein Line.

I Klay going to take the tax payer MLE? He's not the Klay of old, but he is still better than that