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And we haven't even addressed all their draft picks. It's crazy how much ammo they have in reserve. Such a well managed organization. Kind of the opposite of LAC (and guess who owns their future picks?)
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2024-25 NBA Thread: New Pope shocks world in opening statement by asking why Bulls gave Patrick Williams all that money (106 Viewers)
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And we haven't even addressed all their draft picks. It's crazy how much ammo they have in reserve. Such a well managed organization. Kind of the opposite of LAC (and guess who owns their future picks?)
Instinctive
Footballguy
Dallas:
I like Marshall over DJJ, which seems like what was the decision? Lose a little athleticism, but Marshall is super long and has a reputation as a defender, shot better than DJJ last year. We will see.
Tons of news about going for Klay really hard. I think I hate that, but maybe Klay's just been a head case knowing no extension coming. Just hard for me to think they'll stay great defensively with Klay and Kyrie and Luka.
I'd really like a run at a below radar prove it cheap Tobias Harris. As a fourth or fifth starter.
Best case would have been the stuff it'll take for Klay being used for Jerami Grant, but indications seems to be the asking price in Portland is sky high.
I like Marshall over DJJ, which seems like what was the decision? Lose a little athleticism, but Marshall is super long and has a reputation as a defender, shot better than DJJ last year. We will see.
Tons of news about going for Klay really hard. I think I hate that, but maybe Klay's just been a head case knowing no extension coming. Just hard for me to think they'll stay great defensively with Klay and Kyrie and Luka.
I'd really like a run at a below radar prove it cheap Tobias Harris. As a fourth or fifth starter.
Best case would have been the stuff it'll take for Klay being used for Jerami Grant, but indications seems to be the asking price in Portland is sky high.
Wonder if that last year is a team option or partially guaranteed or something? OKC will be in cap hell in three years so I’m surprised they went that long with the deal. They have plenty of assets to get someone to take their salary down the road though.
Donny Loved Bowling
Footballguy
See what happens when you tank for draft picks and the league doesn't interfere? Sam Presti enjoying the kind of freedom to operate that Sam Hinkie was denied.Wow man OKC may actually win this thing next year. They are loaded.
Guess that means the Magic are keeping Wendell Carter
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Having Drummond now will help there, as will keeping Oubre and getting Gordon. I am liking these moves. They would have been better 3-4 years ago though! lol
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I almost feel bad for him, because he caught a lot of heat here in Philly and was always just a great person and citizen and did whatever was asked of him -- but he made SO MUCH MONEY.
Donny Loved Bowling
Footballguy
Don't understand what the hell Detroit is doing. Shouldn't they be renting out their cap space this year, taking on salary dumps in return for assets? Have they seen a Sixers game in the last few years?
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Really felt like he Tobais was washed at points last year. Particularly in the playoffs. Good news for Detroit is they will not be needing him in the playoffs.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Good point. I guess I keep expecting them to make a huge offer for someone, but they could always use the picks like this.
Capella
Footballguy
I believe they have a long way to get to the floor.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Donny Loved Bowling
Footballguy
He was a solid citizen and a great teammate. But he was also a painfully unreliable basketball player. And his contract meant he was always in the crosshairs.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
I think we were near the minimum cap and had to sign someone. Since they don't have a big center or any rebounders, I'll let it slide that we made this move. Agree that WAS is awful at tanking. We kinda half tank, which is dumb.
They desperately need someone with a pulse who can shoot, and 2 years at $26 per isn't bad at all.
If he plays well, it's probably even flippable at the trade deadline.
GOB
Footballguy
Wendell Carter is a better fit for Orlando's offense than Hartenstein, imo.Wow man OKC may actually win this thing next year. They are loaded.
Guess that means the Magic are keeping Wendell Carter
He is basically 36/3 so very movable. Orlando just needs to relax and let this play out.
trader jake
Footballguy
The Bulls are absolutely a bottom tier organization. Made worse, because they have so many (potential) advantages that other franchises don't.
Saw the Bulls also signed Jalen Smith to a 3yr/$27 mil deal. Sticks is a great nickname. Not sure what else he brings to the team.
Sounds like the 3rd year isn't guaranteed. That's when OKC has some big contract dollars going out.
The Thunder are absolutely a top tier organization. Made more impressive, because they have a a handful of disadvantages other franchises don't.
Donny Loved Bowling
Footballguy
What disadvantages are you referring to? Having carte blanche from the league office to tank and rebuild at their own pace would seem to be a rather large advantage.
the moops
Footballguy
Jones has a much better (and deserved) reputation as a defender than Marshall. And Marshall shot well last year, but it was on super low attempts and previous year he was atrocious from three.
Seems like a sideways move at best.
Capella
Footballguy
He’s fine and has a great contract he just doesn’t protect the rim at all. I like him way better for that money than Hart though.Wendell Carter is a better fit for Orlando's offense than Hartenstein, imo.Wow man OKC may actually win this thing next year. They are loaded.
Guess that means the Magic are keeping Wendell Carter
He is basically 36/3 so very movable. Orlando just needs to relax and let this play out.
Moe.
Footballguy
lol, they were truly bad for all of 2 seasons, get outta here with that. Philly won 19, 18, 10, and 28 in 4 seasons. Thunder won 22, 24, then right back to ~.500
Donny Loved Bowling
Footballguy
The whole situation is kind of odd, because the Mavs were reportedly very interested in re-signing DJJ. When the Marshall signing was announced, it was accompanied by an explanation that Dallas pivoted to him because DJJ's decision to change agents triggered a league-mandated delay in his ability to sign a new contract. And yet, DJJ agreed with the Clippers shortly thereafter, for only slightly more money. Something doesn't add up.
Donny Loved Bowling
Footballguy
The point is, OKC never had to deal with interference from the commissioner - dictating their rebuilding timetable and having front office changes thrust upon them. Sam Presti was free to execute his own plan, making personnel moves and stockpiling assets as he saw fit. He had better luck with some of his draft picks, and OKC became competitive ahead of schedule. He was allowed to do it his way, and he succeeded.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Disappointed (not that much) for one of our sons. He's currently in Greece spending some time in Athens but is leaving before the FIBA Olympic Qualifying tournament starts tomorrow. Can't feel THAT bad, seeing how he's on vacation with a bunch of his friends. Would have been cool if he could have caught some of the action.
Jayrod
Footballguy
Yup. Having a big 4 of great 2-way players is incredible.
Boston
Footballguy
Make it 4.5 due to Porzingas' injury concerns.
Jayrod
Footballguy
Yeah, I'm not counting KP or Horford. They are luxuries. They need to get something from their post players to win another championship, but the foundation of White, Holiday, Brown and Tatum is a contender no matter who is playing the 5.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Starting to see buzz for Markkanen to the Spurs. Will be tricky to navigate; I don't understand the salary cap beyond simple arithmetic, but I think it's for similar reasons to the Siakim deal last year where the Pacers could not pay him until the off-season (last week). There would be risk taking Markkanen, giving up draft capital to Utah without having him locked up, but as long as they don't give up the three Atlanta picks (25 and 27 1st, 26 swap) or their own '25 pick, I'm on board. ... although getting off of Zack Collins 2 years remaining at $35M would get my attention.
If this were to happen, the the league should be on notice.
- Chris Paul mentors Stephon Castle for a year. Maybe they flip him for some capital at the trade deadline, but maybe CP3 has eyes on following the Jason Kidd career blueprint (sans DV and DUI legal problems) and takes over for Pop as the next head coach of the Spurs. Pop has 4 years remaining on his five-year 5/75 contract, but I can see a future where Paul plays for $11M this year, and comes back one more year for a farewell tour and a gold watch, and then he transitions to asst. coach for a season, before taking over in what would be the last year of Pop's contract (just convert Pop to a consultant, pay him for the last year. Do it two years early, if necessary). Doesn't take a degree in calculus for CP3 to discover the compounding affect of an annual $20-25M salary as a head coach. And, just a hunch, I can see Wemby wanting to hitch his wagon to CP3 as a head coach for the long haul, especially if CP gets a lot of credit for washing away the bad taste of 2023.
- The Wemby and Markkanen combo would be especially dangerous with that level of floor-spacing. Who can stop it?
- Stephon Castle - what a career path this guy is on. Does a one and done at UCONN under Hurley and wins a championship; and now, he's going to play for Pop and play alongside Wemby, and get tutored at PG by THE PG. If Castle's shot develops, he will be All-NBA. A big if.
I'd still like to see the Spurs fit Batum into their 2024 plans. Would like to see him mentor Sochan the same way I expect Chris Paul to do for Castle.
Super tempted to drop a couple of dollars on the Spurs to win the title this season at +15000.
If this were to happen, the the league should be on notice.
- Chris Paul mentors Stephon Castle for a year. Maybe they flip him for some capital at the trade deadline, but maybe CP3 has eyes on following the Jason Kidd career blueprint (sans DV and DUI legal problems) and takes over for Pop as the next head coach of the Spurs. Pop has 4 years remaining on his five-year 5/75 contract, but I can see a future where Paul plays for $11M this year, and comes back one more year for a farewell tour and a gold watch, and then he transitions to asst. coach for a season, before taking over in what would be the last year of Pop's contract (just convert Pop to a consultant, pay him for the last year. Do it two years early, if necessary). Doesn't take a degree in calculus for CP3 to discover the compounding affect of an annual $20-25M salary as a head coach. And, just a hunch, I can see Wemby wanting to hitch his wagon to CP3 as a head coach for the long haul, especially if CP gets a lot of credit for washing away the bad taste of 2023.
- The Wemby and Markkanen combo would be especially dangerous with that level of floor-spacing. Who can stop it?
- Stephon Castle - what a career path this guy is on. Does a one and done at UCONN under Hurley and wins a championship; and now, he's going to play for Pop and play alongside Wemby, and get tutored at PG by THE PG. If Castle's shot develops, he will be All-NBA. A big if.
I'd still like to see the Spurs fit Batum into their 2024 plans. Would like to see him mentor Sochan the same way I expect Chris Paul to do for Castle.
Super tempted to drop a couple of dollars on the Spurs to win the title this season at +15000.
Markkanen is not getting traded for less than Mikal Bridges was.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Now that the Celtics owners have set the team up with massive repeater taxes in the future, they put the team up for sale.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Or they could lose him after this season and get a lump of coal instead. I think there's middle ground here.
Good luck with Danny Ainge working that angle.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Because he tried to take out a couple Knicks players by the testicular fortitude.
Boston
Footballguy
Danny Ainge is not a big middle-ground guy.
Bobby Marks says their payroll+taxes for 2025-26 is projected to be north of $450 million.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I would rather have free kleenex for.the next year to dry my eyes every time I watch this team.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Markkanen likes it in Utah. I think he’ll re-sign.
trader jake
Footballguy
I see someone posted their Chris Paul fan fiction.
Adding CP3 makes a lot of sense for the Spurs. They were a rudderless ship on the court in Wembanya's rookie season, and adding Paul immediately changes that. He'll also mentor these young guys off the court while being demanding on it. Anything else seems like a real stretch.
Best case for both sides - the Spurs get all that from him and are able to ship him to a contender at the trade deadline.
trader jake
Footballguy
Maybe LA could buy the team, merge them with their own, and then claim the Lakers have won 35 titles. Hang the banners!!
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Everybody here wants Magic Johnson to buy the team.
mr. furley
Footballguy
Delon Wright to the Bucks on a 1-year deal
mr. furley
Footballguy
Garza back to Minnesota on a 2-year minimum
the moops
Footballguy
A Kyrie/Klay/Luka defensive trio is gonna be something
Boston
Footballguy
I honestly did not even know about the ownership rumors before posting this...timing is very odd...for the Love of God please no John Henry and his cronies from FSG.
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