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2024 College Football Thread: Ohio State advances to play unbeaten hypothetical SEC team (4 Viewers)

It’s a bummer Jeanty doesn’t play for a REAL team in a REAL conference. Cuz this would be a special season if that were the case. Bummer.


Dude continually sees 8 in the box and says, **** you, TD! Herman and it’s not even close, even if Mr. Snaps actually is gonna win.

Snaps ain’t a stat….

Dude, Boise State should have beat Oregon.

And they are getting a 1st round bye in the playoffs.

Boise State could very well win the 2024 championship.

Colorado is going where.....the PopTart Bowl?
I think you misunderstood, GM. I'm trolling Moe since he's the one who said Jeanty plays in a kiddie conference on a kiddie team. I've said since week 3 that Jeanty should be leading the Heisman race....

My bad, GB.

He's the best player in college football. And his team is still playing. Hunter is......what, in Cancun? Will he even play in the garbage bowl game his team is going to?
 
Feels like I need a 2nd and 3rd job if I want to try and watch any of the post-season games in person. Just not an affordable excursion and I can see old timers (and maybe even not so-old timers) longing for the days of old when you could count on going to the Rose Bowl if your Big10 team was in the running and scoop up plane fare, accommodations and tickets early on - or at least on the early side. Worst case scenario you get to escape the cold for a few days even if your team didn't make it. Worse places to be than Pasadena on Jan 1.

But now, let's say you're an Oregon fan and you want to support your team in person. Do you buy plane tickets to Indianapolis, which, by the way, is NOT going to be a direct flight from PDX or any of the surrounding areas? Have fun with that in December. Or do you save your monetary bullets for the Rose Bowl? And then, let's say fate smiles and the Ducks win that one, do you go to Dallas for the Semis, assuming that's where they'd go vs Miami? What if Oregon goes on to the national championship game in Atlanta? At least that's a direct flight from PDX, but my god, that's going to be a VERY expensive game ticket. Had lunch with our auditor yesterday who is a Michigan grad. He went to Houston last year and bought tickets the day of - $1,000 per ticket. My god.

I've been a huge proponent of post-season expansion for college football, but I'm starting to have second thoughts if we've really created the best case scenario for everybody.
I bought refundable airline tickets to Rose Bowl, Cotton Bowl, and to Atlanta. Will figure out tickets later.

You've always been much smarter than me....

I might aim for Dallas since I have free lodging and flights to DFW aren't too bad. I imagine tickets to attend would be cheap too. You see the cost to get into the game on Sat? Tickets available for $12. Twelve dollars! :lmao:
Yeah I saw that crazy. I looked into flights to Indy and it was around $900 round trip so I decided to save for playoff game(s).

Starting to book travel now, I just grabbed two refundable seats from Burbank back to Eugene on 1/2, as that's the only non-stop from the LA area that day. And I'm talking to my buddies about AirBNBs. But yeah it's a lot with a ton of unknowns, and that's why we're not in Indy right now (despite $12 game tickets), we're saving up for what comes next.

I should be able to get game tickets at face value (still not cheap) via my season tickets, my priority is in the top 2,000 or so.

I'll probably turn to points/miles for any travel beyond the NY day games, or I have a promotional Companion Pass on SW from 1/6-3/6. So travel costs shouldn't be too bad. It's going to be more the logistics of managing pet sitting, work, that kind of thing.
 
Feels like I need a 2nd and 3rd job if I want to try and watch any of the post-season games in person. Just not an affordable excursion and I can see old timers (and maybe even not so-old timers) longing for the days of old when you could count on going to the Rose Bowl if your Big10 team was in the running and scoop up plane fare, accommodations and tickets early on - or at least on the early side. Worst case scenario you get to escape the cold for a few days even if your team didn't make it. Worse places to be than Pasadena on Jan 1.

But now, let's say you're an Oregon fan and you want to support your team in person. Do you buy plane tickets to Indianapolis, which, by the way, is NOT going to be a direct flight from PDX or any of the surrounding areas? Have fun with that in December. Or do you save your monetary bullets for the Rose Bowl? And then, let's say fate smiles and the Ducks win that one, do you go to Dallas for the Semis, assuming that's where they'd go vs Miami? What if Oregon goes on to the national championship game in Atlanta? At least that's a direct flight from PDX, but my god, that's going to be a VERY expensive game ticket. Had lunch with our auditor yesterday who is a Michigan grad. He went to Houston last year and bought tickets the day of - $1,000 per ticket. My god.

I've been a huge proponent of post-season expansion for college football, but I'm starting to have second thoughts if we've really created the best case scenario for everybody.
I bought refundable airline tickets to Rose Bowl, Cotton Bowl, and to Atlanta. Will figure out tickets later.

You've always been much smarter than me....

I might aim for Dallas since I have free lodging and flights to DFW aren't too bad. I imagine tickets to attend would be cheap too. You see the cost to get into the game on Sat? Tickets available for $12. Twelve dollars! :lmao:
Yeah I saw that crazy. I looked into flights to Indy and it was around $900 round trip so I decided to save for playoff game(s).

Starting to book travel now, I just grabbed two refundable seats from Burbank back to Eugene on 1/2, as that's the only non-stop from the LA area that day. And I'm talking to my buddies about AirBNBs. But yeah it's a lot with a ton of unknowns, and that's why we're not in Indy right now (despite $12 game tickets), we're saving up for what comes next.

I should be able to get game tickets at face value (still not cheap) via my season tickets, my priority is in the top 2,000 or so.

I'll probably turn to points/miles for any travel beyond the NY day games, or I have a promotional Companion Pass on SW from 1/6-3/6. So travel costs shouldn't be too bad. It's going to be more the logistics of managing pet sitting, work, that kind of thing.
Nice. I saw that direct flight from Burbank and considered it but since my family is going this trip if we end up there we opted for Santa Ana as we would go to Disneyland before the game. Should be a great game tomorrow!
 
It’s a bummer Jeanty doesn’t play for a REAL team in a REAL conference. Cuz this would be a special season if that were the case. Bummer.


Dude continually sees 8 in the box and says, **** you, TD! Herman and it’s not even close, even if Mr. Snaps actually is gonna win.

Snaps ain’t a stat….

Dude, Boise State should have beat Oregon.

And they are getting a 1st round bye in the playoffs.

Boise State could very well win the 2024 championship.

Colorado is going where.....the PopTart Bowl?
I think you misunderstood, GM. I'm trolling Moe since he's the one who said Jeanty plays in a kiddie conference on a kiddie team. I've said since week 3 that Jeanty should be leading the Heisman race....

My bad, GB.

He's the best player in college football. And his team is still playing. Hunter is......what, in Cancun? Will he even play in the garbage bowl game his team is going to?
I mean...not event your offense's best player, but win the Heisman?!?

Big XII Offensive POTY
 
Feels like I need a 2nd and 3rd job if I want to try and watch any of the post-season games in person. Just not an affordable excursion and I can see old timers (and maybe even not so-old timers) longing for the days of old when you could count on going to the Rose Bowl if your Big10 team was in the running and scoop up plane fare, accommodations and tickets early on - or at least on the early side. Worst case scenario you get to escape the cold for a few days even if your team didn't make it. Worse places to be than Pasadena on Jan 1.

But now, let's say you're an Oregon fan and you want to support your team in person. Do you buy plane tickets to Indianapolis, which, by the way, is NOT going to be a direct flight from PDX or any of the surrounding areas? Have fun with that in December. Or do you save your monetary bullets for the Rose Bowl? And then, let's say fate smiles and the Ducks win that one, do you go to Dallas for the Semis, assuming that's where they'd go vs Miami? What if Oregon goes on to the national championship game in Atlanta? At least that's a direct flight from PDX, but my god, that's going to be a VERY expensive game ticket. Had lunch with our auditor yesterday who is a Michigan grad. He went to Houston last year and bought tickets the day of - $1,000 per ticket. My god.

I've been a huge proponent of post-season expansion for college football, but I'm starting to have second thoughts if we've really created the best case scenario for everybody.
I bought refundable airline tickets to Rose Bowl, Cotton Bowl, and to Atlanta. Will figure out tickets later.

You've always been much smarter than me....

I might aim for Dallas since I have free lodging and flights to DFW aren't too bad. I imagine tickets to attend would be cheap too. You see the cost to get into the game on Sat? Tickets available for $12. Twelve dollars! :lmao:
Yeah I saw that crazy. I looked into flights to Indy and it was around $900 round trip so I decided to save for playoff game(s).

Starting to book travel now, I just grabbed two refundable seats from Burbank back to Eugene on 1/2, as that's the only non-stop from the LA area that day. And I'm talking to my buddies about AirBNBs. But yeah it's a lot with a ton of unknowns, and that's why we're not in Indy right now (despite $12 game tickets), we're saving up for what comes next.

I should be able to get game tickets at face value (still not cheap) via my season tickets, my priority is in the top 2,000 or so.

I'll probably turn to points/miles for any travel beyond the NY day games, or I have a promotional Companion Pass on SW from 1/6-3/6. So travel costs shouldn't be too bad. It's going to be more the logistics of managing pet sitting, work, that kind of thing.
This is why, IMHO, they need to change the format to home games for higher seeds under semis/NCG, not to mention reseeding. Have a blast and I'm super jealous!
 
It’s a bummer Jeanty doesn’t play for a REAL team in a REAL conference. Cuz this would be a special season if that were the case. Bummer.


Dude continually sees 8 in the box and says, **** you, TD! Herman and it’s not even close, even if Mr. Snaps actually is gonna win.

Snaps ain’t a stat….

Dude, Boise State should have beat Oregon.

And they are getting a 1st round bye in the playoffs.

Boise State could very well win the 2024 championship.

Colorado is going where.....the PopTart Bowl?
I think you misunderstood, GM. I'm trolling Moe since he's the one who said Jeanty plays in a kiddie conference on a kiddie team. I've said since week 3 that Jeanty should be leading the Heisman race....

My bad, GB.

He's the best player in college football. And his team is still playing. Hunter is......what, in Cancun? Will he even play in the garbage bowl game his team is going to?
I mean...not event your offense's best player, but win the Heisman?!?

Big XII Offensive POTY
He is the Big 12 POTY
 
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It’s a bummer Jeanty doesn’t play for a REAL team in a REAL conference. Cuz this would be a special season if that were the case. Bummer.


Dude continually sees 8 in the box and says, **** you, TD! Herman and it’s not even close, even if Mr. Snaps actually is gonna win.

Snaps ain’t a stat….

Dude, Boise State should have beat Oregon.

And they are getting a 1st round bye in the playoffs.

Boise State could very well win the 2024 championship.

Colorado is going where.....the PopTart Bowl?
I think you misunderstood, GM. I'm trolling Moe since he's the one who said Jeanty plays in a kiddie conference on a kiddie team. I've said since week 3 that Jeanty should be leading the Heisman race....

My bad, GB.

He's the best player in college football. And his team is still playing. Hunter is......what, in Cancun? Will he even play in the garbage bowl game his team is going to?
I mean...not event your offense's best player, but win the Heisman?!?

Big XII Offensive POTY
He is the Big 12 POTY
It's such an idiotic argument. Jeanty is clearly awesome. And if he also played Linebacker at an above average level he'd be a shoo in.
 
Michigan won in the trenches.

They have beat up OSU physically now for 4 years. OSU has all these shiny 5 star players, but the need to recruit more gritty type of players.
That's what Roman Wilson was saying last year. He said they are all show, no heart. Don't really want a fight.
And UM did it minus two guys projected to go in the top 20 picks in the NFL draft. The offense could have obviously used TE Loveland, and the defense held OSU to 10 points with their top CB Will Johnson not playing.
Not sure that Johnson would have had much of an impact on the game, given that Ryan day refused to pass the ball even with him out

I looked at the box. OSU attempted 34 passes and had 26 runs vs Michigan. OSU attempted only 25 passes vs Indiana, 24 vs Penn St and 34 vs Oregon in their other big games. So passes attempted the same or even higher than most of their other games. Howard threw 2 terrible INTs that cost OSU the game as they were possible 14 point swings on those INTs in a tight game. So it was not about throwing the ball enough. Not being efficient throwing it was the key to losing.
 
So Big 12 winner is definitely in? I don’t really know how the rules work. I thought there was some rule where one of the conference winners could be squeezed out if ranked low enough.


Super cool to see Boise get in and get a bye. Has to be thrilling for their fans. Good for them.
 
It’s a bummer Jeanty doesn’t play for a REAL team in a REAL conference. Cuz this would be a special season if that were the case. Bummer.


Dude continually sees 8 in the box and says, **** you, TD! Herman and it’s not even close, even if Mr. Snaps actually is gonna win.

Snaps ain’t a stat….

Dude, Boise State should have beat Oregon.

And they are getting a 1st round bye in the playoffs.

Boise State could very well win the 2024 championship.

Colorado is going where.....the PopTart Bowl?
I think you misunderstood, GM. I'm trolling Moe since he's the one who said Jeanty plays in a kiddie conference on a kiddie team. I've said since week 3 that Jeanty should be leading the Heisman race....

My bad, GB.

He's the best player in college football. And his team is still playing. Hunter is......what, in Cancun? Will he even play in the garbage bowl game his team is going to?
I mean...not event your offense's best player, but win the Heisman?!?

Big XII Offensive POTY
He is the Big 12 POTY
It's such an idiotic argument. Jeanty is clearly awesome. And if he also played Linebacker at an above average level he'd be a shoo in.
I agree but he didn't. To question Travis Hunter doesn't deserve the Heisman because he wasn't offensive POTY, leaving out he was conference POTY, defensive POTY, and first team all conference on offense and defense seems important.
 
Michigan won in the trenches.

They have beat up OSU physically now for 4 years. OSU has all these shiny 5 star players, but the need to recruit more gritty type of players.
That's what Roman Wilson was saying last year. He said they are all show, no heart. Don't really want a fight.
And UM did it minus two guys projected to go in the top 20 picks in the NFL draft. The offense could have obviously used TE Loveland, and the defense held OSU to 10 points with their top CB Will Johnson not playing.
Not sure that Johnson would have had much of an impact on the game, given that Ryan day refused to pass the ball even with him out

I looked at the box. OSU attempted 34 passes and had 26 runs vs Michigan. OSU attempted only 25 passes vs Indiana, 24 vs Penn St and 34 vs Oregon in their other big games. So passes attempted the same or even higher than most of their other games. Howard threw 2 terrible INTs that cost OSU the game as they were possible 14 point swings on those INTs in a tight game. So it was not about throwing the ball enough. Not being efficient throwing it was the key to losing.
Agree with @Summer Wheat plus Day’s infatuation with running the ball up the middle (the strongest aspect of UM’s depleted defense) 17 of the 26 rush attempts.
 
So Big 12 winner is definitely in? I don’t really know how the rules work. I thought there was some rule where one of the conference winners could be squeezed out if ranked low enough.


Super cool to see Boise get in and get a bye. Has to be thrilling for their fans. Good for them.
Per NCAA site: The 5 highest ranked conference champs get auto bids. Doesn’t distinguish P5 vs G5, so I think B12 could be left out if they’re not in the next 7 highest ranked conference spots
 
So Big 12 winner is definitely in? I don’t really know how the rules work. I thought there was some rule where one of the conference winners could be squeezed out if ranked low enough.


Super cool to see Boise get in and get a bye. Has to be thrilling for their fans. Good for them.
Yes, they are in. May not get a first round bye if they are ranked lower than 4 other conference champions.

ETA: I see the @heckmanm post. I guess they could be left out.

ETA2: I'm not seeing another conference champ that would jump the B12 winner for the 5th spot. Army? :shrug:
 
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So Big 12 winner is definitely in? I don’t really know how the rules work. I thought there was some rule where one of the conference winners could be squeezed out if ranked low enough.


Super cool to see Boise get in and get a bye. Has to be thrilling for their fans. Good for them.
Per NCAA site: The 5 highest ranked conference champs get auto bids. Doesn’t distinguish P5 vs G5, so I think B12 could be left out if they’re not in the next 7 highest ranked conference spots
Top 5 ranked conference champions get in. Top 4 get byes. B12 champ is in unless Army jumps the winner in the rankings, which isn't happening.
 
ASU & ISU are both ranked above Clemson. If Clemson wins, are they guaranteed to leapfrog the B12 champ? Or could the ACC be left out?
 
So Big 12 winner is definitely in? I don’t really know how the rules work. I thought there was some rule where one of the conference winners could be squeezed out if ranked low enough.


Super cool to see Boise get in and get a bye. Has to be thrilling for their fans. Good for them.
Per NCAA site: The 5 highest ranked conference champs get auto bids. Doesn’t distinguish P5 vs G5, so I think B12 could be left out if they’re not in the next 7 highest ranked conference spots
Top 5 ranked conference champions get in. Top 4 get byes. B12 champ is in unless Army jumps the winner in the rankings, which isn't happening

So Big 12 winner is definitely in? I don’t really know how the rules work. I thought there was some rule where one of the conference winners could be squeezed out if ranked low enough.


Super cool to see Boise get in and get a bye. Has to be thrilling for their fans. Good for them.
Per NCAA site: The 5 highest ranked conference champs get auto bids. Doesn’t distinguish P5 vs G5, so I think B12 could be left out if they’re not in the next 7 highest ranked conference spots
Top 5 ranked conference champions get in. Top 4 get byes. B12 champ is in unless Army jumps the winner in the rankings, which isn't happening.
Yeah I think I mis-counted. PAC12 is the 5th of the old P5 and they’re out (whoever is left out there) with Boise getting in instead
 
ASU & ISU are both ranked above Clemson. If Clemson wins, are they guaranteed to leapfrog the B12 champ? Or could the ACC be left out?
SEC, Big 10, ACC, MW, Big 12. Am I missing a conference champ with a shot to make the playoffs?
 
So Big 12 winner is definitely in? I don’t really know how the rules work. I thought there was some rule where one of the conference winners could be squeezed out if ranked low enough.


Super cool to see Boise get in and get a bye. Has to be thrilling for their fans. Good for them.
Per NCAA site: The 5 highest ranked conference champs get auto bids. Doesn’t distinguish P5 vs G5, so I think B12 could be left out if they’re not in the next 7 highest ranked conference spots
Top 5 ranked conference champions get in. Top 4 get byes. B12 champ is in unless Army jumps the winner in the rankings, which isn't happening.

Army and Navy need to add another top 25 team to their schedules. They have the team chemistry and discipline to make the top 12 at some point. But they can't roll in with a ND loss each year as their main quality opponent game.

It would be very easy for each of the 4 largest conferences to be won by a team that was not in that conference until recently (maybe even in their first year). That will be the case if ASU, TEX, ORE, and SMU win.

Also wonder if ND is gonna get forced into a conference. I don't really like ND, but they could go 11-0 every year and never get a first round bye under this system. They need to pick the best 4 teams IMO. ORE loses and they are in a a first round game. Seems odd for the best team in the country over the season
 
It’s a bummer Jeanty doesn’t play for a REAL team in a REAL conference. Cuz this would be a special season if that were the case. Bummer.


Dude continually sees 8 in the box and says, **** you, TD! Herman and it’s not even close, even if Mr. Snaps actually is gonna win.

Snaps ain’t a stat….

Dude, Boise State should have beat Oregon.

And they are getting a 1st round bye in the playoffs.

Boise State could very well win the 2024 championship.

Colorado is going where.....the PopTart Bowl?
I think you misunderstood, GM. I'm trolling Moe since he's the one who said Jeanty plays in a kiddie conference on a kiddie team. I've said since week 3 that Jeanty should be leading the Heisman race....

My bad, GB.

He's the best player in college football. And his team is still playing. Hunter is......what, in Cancun? Will he even play in the garbage bowl game his team is going to?
I mean...not event your offense's best player, but win the Heisman?!?

Big XII Offensive POTY
He is the Big 12 POTY
It's such an idiotic argument. Jeanty is clearly awesome. And if he also played Linebacker at an above average level he'd be a shoo in.
I agree but he didn't. To question Travis Hunter doesn't deserve the Heisman because he wasn't offensive POTY, leaving out he was conference POTY, defensive POTY, and first team all conference on offense and defense seems important.

His team losing 3 games and going to the Weedeater Whatever Bowl is where you lose me. Winning should matter.
 
I'd personally vote for Jeanty over Hunter but can see Hunter is worthy of winning too. The media saying he's the runaway favorite though if true that is a joke. Jeanty is special.
 
Losing to Kansas, Kansas State and Nebraska should also be factored in. Who you lose to is important as well. Again, Jeanty's team is not only going to the playoffs but they lost by 3 to the #1 team in the country. A game they should have won.

Getting thumped by a crappy Nebraska team is a major red X. At least for me.
 
I'd personally vote for Jeanty over Hunter but can see Hunter is worthy of winning too. The media saying he's the runaway favorite though if true that is a joke. Jeanty is special.

Vegas has Hunter as a huge favorite even after last night.

He's definitely an amazing player and talent but his team is kind of meh.
 
So Big 12 winner is definitely in? I don’t really know how the rules work. I thought there was some rule where one of the conference winners could be squeezed out if ranked low enough.


Super cool to see Boise get in and get a bye. Has to be thrilling for their fans. Good for them.
Per NCAA site: The 5 highest ranked conference champs get auto bids. Doesn’t distinguish P5 vs G5, so I think B12 could be left out if they’re not in the next 7 highest ranked conference spots
Top 5 ranked conference champions get in. Top 4 get byes. B12 champ is in unless Army jumps the winner in the rankings, which isn't happening.

Army and Navy need to add another top 25 team to their schedules. They have the team chemistry and discipline to make the top 12 at some point. But they can't roll in with a ND loss each year as their main quality opponent game.

It would be very easy for each of the 4 largest conferences to be won by a team that was not in that conference until recently (maybe even in their first year). That will be the case if ASU, TEX, ORE, and SMU win.

Also wonder if ND is gonna get forced into a conference. I don't really like ND, but they could go 11-0 every year and never get a first round bye under this system. They need to pick the best 4 teams IMO. ORE loses and they are in a a first round game. Seems odd for the best team in the country over the season
You really want alabama, Georgia, and Texas to get the byes every other year?

If notre dame doesn’t like it, I’m sure they can find a conference who will take them and stop just beating up on service academies.
 
It’s a bummer Jeanty doesn’t play for a REAL team in a REAL conference. Cuz this would be a special season if that were the case. Bummer.


Dude continually sees 8 in the box and says, **** you, TD! Herman and it’s not even close, even if Mr. Snaps actually is gonna win.

Snaps ain’t a stat….

Dude, Boise State should have beat Oregon.

And they are getting a 1st round bye in the playoffs.

Boise State could very well win the 2024 championship.

Colorado is going where.....the PopTart Bowl?
I think you misunderstood, GM. I'm trolling Moe since he's the one who said Jeanty plays in a kiddie conference on a kiddie team. I've said since week 3 that Jeanty should be leading the Heisman race....

My bad, GB.

He's the best player in college football. And his team is still playing. Hunter is......what, in Cancun? Will he even play in the garbage bowl game his team is going to?
I mean...not event your offense's best player, but win the Heisman?!?

Big XII Offensive POTY
He is the Big 12 POTY
It's such an idiotic argument. Jeanty is clearly awesome. And if he also played Linebacker at an above average level he'd be a shoo in.
I agree but he didn't. To question Travis Hunter doesn't deserve the Heisman because he wasn't offensive POTY, leaving out he was conference POTY, defensive POTY, and first team all conference on offense and defense seems important.

His team losing 3 games and going to the Weedeater Whatever Bowl is where you lose me. Winning should matter.

It's interesting that this is the complaint this year, because most years the complaint is that they just pick the best player from the top few teams and call it a day, instead of the best actual player overall.
 
So Big 12 winner is definitely in? I don’t really know how the rules work. I thought there was some rule where one of the conference winners could be squeezed out if ranked low enough.


Super cool to see Boise get in and get a bye. Has to be thrilling for their fans. Good for them.
Yes, they are in. May not get a first round bye if they are ranked lower than 4 other conference champions.

ETA: I see the @heckmanm post. I guess they could be left out.

ETA2: I'm not seeing another conference champ that would jump the B12 winner for the 5th spot. Army? :shrug:
Until 2 weeks ago, Tulane had a chance if they had won out and won the AAC. However, they laid a couple eggs and thus, the Big XII is a shoo-in. They won’t get a bye unless Clemson beats SMU, which then opens the door for them to take the ACC’s bye.
 
It’s a bummer Jeanty doesn’t play for a REAL team in a REAL conference. Cuz this would be a special season if that were the case. Bummer.


Dude continually sees 8 in the box and says, **** you, TD! Herman and it’s not even close, even if Mr. Snaps actually is gonna win.

Snaps ain’t a stat….

Dude, Boise State should have beat Oregon.

And they are getting a 1st round bye in the playoffs.

Boise State could very well win the 2024 championship.

Colorado is going where.....the PopTart Bowl?
I think you misunderstood, GM. I'm trolling Moe since he's the one who said Jeanty plays in a kiddie conference on a kiddie team. I've said since week 3 that Jeanty should be leading the Heisman race....

My bad, GB.

He's the best player in college football. And his team is still playing. Hunter is......what, in Cancun? Will he even play in the garbage bowl game his team is going to?
I mean...not event your offense's best player, but win the Heisman?!?

Big XII Offensive POTY
He is the Big 12 POTY
It's such an idiotic argument. Jeanty is clearly awesome. And if he also played Linebacker at an above average level he'd be a shoo in.
I agree but he didn't. To question Travis Hunter doesn't deserve the Heisman because he wasn't offensive POTY, leaving out he was conference POTY, defensive POTY, and first team all conference on offense and defense seems important.

His team losing 3 games and going to the Weedeater Whatever Bowl is where you lose me. Winning should matter.

It's interesting that this is the complaint this year, because most years the complaint is that they just pick the best player from the top few teams and call it a day, instead of the best actual player overall.

Jayden Daniels winning it last year on a 4 loss team didn't sit right with me. Penix or Nix had a better case. IMO.
 
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IDK if his game will translate to the pros, but Skattebo is really fun to watch

There's a restaurant chain in Arizona called "Cold Beer and Cheeseburgers" that launched the Skatteburger. Some of the proceeds go to charity.

Check this bad boy out:


The new “Skatteburger” - a hamburger topped with pico de gallo, roasted jalapeños, bacon, chipotle aioli, pepper jack cheese, lettuce, and Tajin avocado - will provide a percentage of sales to the Phoenix Children’s Hospital.
 
It’s a bummer Jeanty doesn’t play for a REAL team in a REAL conference. Cuz this would be a special season if that were the case. Bummer.


Dude continually sees 8 in the box and says, **** you, TD! Herman and it’s not even close, even if Mr. Snaps actually is gonna win.

Snaps ain’t a stat….

Dude, Boise State should have beat Oregon.

And they are getting a 1st round bye in the playoffs.

Boise State could very well win the 2024 championship.

Colorado is going where.....the PopTart Bowl?
I think you misunderstood, GM. I'm trolling Moe since he's the one who said Jeanty plays in a kiddie conference on a kiddie team. I've said since week 3 that Jeanty should be leading the Heisman race....

My bad, GB.

He's the best player in college football. And his team is still playing. Hunter is......what, in Cancun? Will he even play in the garbage bowl game his team is going to?
I mean...not event your offense's best player, but win the Heisman?!?

Big XII Offensive POTY
He is the Big 12 POTY
It's such an idiotic argument. Jeanty is clearly awesome. And if he also played Linebacker at an above average level he'd be a shoo in.
I agree but he didn't. To question Travis Hunter doesn't deserve the Heisman because he wasn't offensive POTY, leaving out he was conference POTY, defensive POTY, and first team all conference on offense and defense seems important.

His team losing 3 games and going to the Weedeater Whatever Bowl is where you lose me. Winning should matter.

It's interesting that this is the complaint this year, because most years the complaint is that they just pick the best player from the top few teams and call it a day, instead of the best actual player overall.
Only players from one of the 12 playoff teams should win the Heisman
 
IDK if his game will translate to the pros, but Skattebo is really fun to watch

There's a restaurant chain in Arizona called "Cold Beer and Cheeseburgers" that launched the Skatteburger. Some of the proceeds go to charity.

Check this bad boy out:


The new “Skatteburger” - a hamburger topped with pico de gallo, roasted jalapeños, bacon, chipotle aioli, pepper jack cheese, lettuce, and Tajin avocado - will provide a percentage of sales to the Phoenix Children’s Hospital.
Sounds disgusting
 
IDK if his game will translate to the pros, but Skattebo is really fun to watch

There's a restaurant chain in Arizona called "Cold Beer and Cheeseburgers" that launched the Skatteburger. Some of the proceeds go to charity.

Check this bad boy out:


The new “Skatteburger” - a hamburger topped with pico de gallo, roasted jalapeños, bacon, chipotle aioli, pepper jack cheese, lettuce, and Tajin avocado - will provide a percentage of sales to the Phoenix Children’s Hospital.
Sounds disgusting

Guessing you don't like vegetables....
 
Losing to Kansas, Kansas State and Nebraska should also be factored in. Who you lose to is important as well. Again, Jeanty's team is not only going to the playoffs but they lost by 3 to the #1 team in the country. A game they should have won.

Getting thumped by a crappy Nebraska team is a major red X. At least for me.
I don't really see how your team being better or worse around you necessarily equates to you being more or less outstanding but I have that gripe with NFL MVP too.
 
It’s a bummer Jeanty doesn’t play for a REAL team in a REAL conference. Cuz this would be a special season if that were the case. Bummer.


Dude continually sees 8 in the box and says, **** you, TD! Herman and it’s not even close, even if Mr. Snaps actually is gonna win.

Snaps ain’t a stat….

Dude, Boise State should have beat Oregon.

And they are getting a 1st round bye in the playoffs.

Boise State could very well win the 2024 championship.

Colorado is going where.....the PopTart Bowl?
I think you misunderstood, GM. I'm trolling Moe since he's the one who said Jeanty plays in a kiddie conference on a kiddie team. I've said since week 3 that Jeanty should be leading the Heisman race....

My bad, GB.

He's the best player in college football. And his team is still playing. Hunter is......what, in Cancun? Will he even play in the garbage bowl game his team is going to?
I mean...not event your offense's best player, but win the Heisman?!?

Big XII Offensive POTY
He is the Big 12 POTY
It's such an idiotic argument. Jeanty is clearly awesome. And if he also played Linebacker at an above average level he'd be a shoo in.
I agree but he didn't. To question Travis Hunter doesn't deserve the Heisman because he wasn't offensive POTY, leaving out he was conference POTY, defensive POTY, and first team all conference on offense and defense seems important.

His team losing 3 games and going to the Weedeater Whatever Bowl is where you lose me. Winning should matter.

It's interesting that this is the complaint this year, because most years the complaint is that they just pick the best player from the top few teams and call it a day, instead of the best actual player overall.
Only players from one of the 12 playoff teams should win the Heisman
Why?
 
Losing to Kansas, Kansas State and Nebraska should also be factored in. Who you lose to is important as well. Again, Jeanty's team is not only going to the playoffs but they lost by 3 to the #1 team in the country. A game they should have won.

Getting thumped by a crappy Nebraska team is a major red X. At least for me.
I don't really see how your team being better or worse around you necessarily equates to you being more or less outstanding but I have that gripe with NFL MVP too.

Hunter plays offense and defense so losing to lackluster teams thrice should be part of his resume, no?
 
Losing to Kansas, Kansas State and Nebraska should also be factored in. Who you lose to is important as well. Again, Jeanty's team is not only going to the playoffs but they lost by 3 to the #1 team in the country. A game they should have won.

Getting thumped by a crappy Nebraska team is a major red X. At least for me.
I don't really see how your team being better or worse around you necessarily equates to you being more or less outstanding but I have that gripe with NFL MVP too.

Hunter plays offense and defense so losing to lackluster teams thrice should be part of his resume, no?
I can't tell if you're being intentionally obstinate or not.

Was Darrelle Revis ever not one of the best defenders just because the Jets consistently sucked? Is Jamarr Chase not one of the best receivers or Joe Burrow a bad QB because the Bengals keep losing?

My counter is: so what if I told you he was on another team and CU was otherwise ethe same and they lost seven games? And Boise without Jeanty only lost one additional game?

These are somewhat silly.

At the end of the day, given the award is for the "Outstanding performance which best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity. Winners epitomize great ability combined with diligence, perseverance, hard work."

Both guys have clearly done that. NOTHING in the criteria defining the award indicates your team must win. The difference is that one guy has done that on both sides, playing twice as much football. It's wild that he's only the favorite by as much as he is. He's a full time, above average player at two critical positions. Jeanty is awesome. He probably wins last year or next year.

If anything, Hunter could be docked because you question like the integrity of CU or something because people hate Deion. But idk what exhibits the pursuit of excellence more than pursuing it full time on both offense and defense.
 
So Big 12 winner is definitely in? I don’t really know how the rules work. I thought there was some rule where one of the conference winners could be squeezed out if ranked low enough.


Super cool to see Boise get in and get a bye. Has to be thrilling for their fans. Good for them.
Per NCAA site: The 5 highest ranked conference champs get auto bids. Doesn’t distinguish P5 vs G5, so I think B12 could be left out if they’re not in the next 7 highest ranked conference spots
Top 5 ranked conference champions get in. Top 4 get byes. B12 champ is in unless Army jumps the winner in the rankings, which isn't happening.

Army and Navy need to add another top 25 team to their schedules. They have the team chemistry and discipline to make the top 12 at some point. But they can't roll in with a ND loss each year as their main quality opponent game.

It would be very easy for each of the 4 largest conferences to be won by a team that was not in that conference until recently (maybe even in their first year). That will be the case if ASU, TEX, ORE, and SMU win.

Also wonder if ND is gonna get forced into a conference. I don't really like ND, but they could go 11-0 every year and never get a first round bye under this system. They need to pick the best 4 teams IMO. ORE loses and they are in a a first round game. Seems odd for the best team in the country over the season
You really want alabama, Georgia, and Texas to get the byes every other year?

If notre dame doesn’t like it, I’m sure they can find a conference who will take them and stop just beating up on service academies.
I think the 4 best teams should get the bye. Regardles of conference. ORE is one of the top 4 teams win or lose today. They should get a bye. But they are in a position that they may not. The same with TEX. They are a top 4 team even if a worse UGA team beats them today. And UGA does not deserve a bye even if they win today. They have not played good.
 
So Big 12 winner is definitely in? I don’t really know how the rules work. I thought there was some rule where one of the conference winners could be squeezed out if ranked low enough.


Super cool to see Boise get in and get a bye. Has to be thrilling for their fans. Good for them.
Per NCAA site: The 5 highest ranked conference champs get auto bids. Doesn’t distinguish P5 vs G5, so I think B12 could be left out if they’re not in the next 7 highest ranked conference spots
Top 5 ranked conference champions get in. Top 4 get byes. B12 champ is in unless Army jumps the winner in the rankings, which isn't happening.

Army and Navy need to add another top 25 team to their schedules. They have the team chemistry and discipline to make the top 12 at some point. But they can't roll in with a ND loss each year as their main quality opponent game.

It would be very easy for each of the 4 largest conferences to be won by a team that was not in that conference until recently (maybe even in their first year). That will be the case if ASU, TEX, ORE, and SMU win.

Also wonder if ND is gonna get forced into a conference. I don't really like ND, but they could go 11-0 every year and never get a first round bye under this system. They need to pick the best 4 teams IMO. ORE loses and they are in a a first round game. Seems odd for the best team in the country over the season
You really want alabama, Georgia, and Texas to get the byes every other year?

If notre dame doesn’t like it, I’m sure they can find a conference who will take them and stop just beating up on service academies.
I think the 4 best teams should get the bye. Regardles of conference. ORE is one of the top 4 teams win or lose today. They should get a bye. But they are in a position that they may not. The same with TEX. They are a top 4 team even if a worse UGA team beats them today. A UGA team that certainly does not deserve a bye
It's interesting that people clearly hold views like this, but also think that if a conference title game contender loses, they shouldn't be able to be jumped by someone even if they look bad. I struggle to square that circle.

If we want the best teams, we have to recognize that sometimes a better team loses. But if we want to make the Wins and Losses mean a lot, then we need a structure that qualifies you based on record and not perception of how good the team is. Right?
 

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