2024 College Football Thread: Ohio State advances to play unbeaten hypothetical SEC team (1 Viewer)

[Mile High]

It’s a bummer Jeanty doesn’t play for a REAL team in a REAL conference. Cuz this would be a special season if that were the case. Bummer.


Dude continually sees 8 in the box and says, **** you, TD! Herman and it’s not even close, even if Mr. Snaps actually is gonna win.

Snaps ain’t a stat….

Dude, Boise State should have beat Oregon.

And they are getting a 1st round bye in the playoffs.

Boise State could very well win the 2024 championship.

Colorado is going where.....the PopTart Bowl?

I think you misunderstood, GM. I'm trolling Moe since he's the one who said Jeanty plays in a kiddie conference on a kiddie team. I've said since week 3 that Jeanty should be leading the Heisman race....

My bad, GB.

He's the best player in college football. And his team is still playing. Hunter is......what, in Cancun? Will he even play in the garbage bowl game his team is going to?

I mean...not event your offense's best player, but win the Heisman?!?

Big XII Offensive POTY

He is the Big 12 POTY

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://sports.yahoo.com/usa-today-sports-network-big-200447254.html%23:~:text%3DColorado%2520receiver%2520and%2520defensive%2520back,the%2520USA%2520Today%2520Sports%2520Network.&ved=2ahUKEwiWtdHrypWKAxX3MjQIHZZKKu4QFnoECCEQBQ&usg=AOvVaw0r4Gv48OZXbPxY6r-czVja

It's such an idiotic argument. Jeanty is clearly awesome. And if he also played Linebacker at an above average level he'd be a shoo in.

I agree but he didn't. To question Travis Hunter doesn't deserve the Heisman because he wasn't offensive POTY, leaving out he was conference POTY, defensive POTY, and first team all conference on offense and defense seems important.

His team losing 3 games and going to the Weedeater Whatever Bowl is where you lose me. Winning should matter.

It's interesting that this is the complaint this year, because most years the complaint is that they just pick the best player from the top few teams and call it a day, instead of the best actual player overall.

Only players from one of the 12 playoff teams should win the Heisman

Why?

Was joking.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

So Big 12 winner is definitely in? I don’t really know how the rules work. I thought there was some rule where one of the conference winners could be squeezed out if ranked low enough.


Super cool to see Boise get in and get a bye. Has to be thrilling for their fans. Good for them.

Per NCAA site: The 5 highest ranked conference champs get auto bids. Doesn’t distinguish P5 vs G5, so I think B12 could be left out if they’re not in the next 7 highest ranked conference spots

Top 5 ranked conference champions get in. Top 4 get byes. B12 champ is in unless Army jumps the winner in the rankings, which isn't happening.

Army and Navy need to add another top 25 team to their schedules. They have the team chemistry and discipline to make the top 12 at some point. But they can't roll in with a ND loss each year as their main quality opponent game.

It would be very easy for each of the 4 largest conferences to be won by a team that was not in that conference until recently (maybe even in their first year). That will be the case if ASU, TEX, ORE, and SMU win.

Also wonder if ND is gonna get forced into a conference. I don't really like ND, but they could go 11-0 every year and never get a first round bye under this system. They need to pick the best 4 teams IMO. ORE loses and they are in a a first round game. Seems odd for the best team in the country over the season

You really want alabama, Georgia, and Texas to get the byes every other year?

If notre dame doesn’t like it, I’m sure they can find a conference who will take them and stop just beating up on service academies.

I think the 4 best teams should get the bye. Regardles of conference. ORE is one of the top 4 teams win or lose today. They should get a bye. But they are in a position that they may not. The same with TEX. They are a top 4 team even if a worse UGA team beats them today. A UGA team that certainly does not deserve a bye

It's interesting that people clearly hold views like this, but also think that if a conference title game contender loses, they shouldn't be able to be jumped by someone even if they look bad. I struggle to square that circle.

If we want the best teams, we have to recognize that sometimes a better team loses. But if we want to make the Wins and Losses mean a lot, then we need a structure that qualifies you based on record and not perception of how good the team is. Right?

I don't think the conf championship game should count as any more than another game in the season. ORE had a great season. Let's say they lose to PSU today. Fine. PSU leaps them. But that shouldn't put ORE out of the top 4 bye should it? Did that game suddenly make them worse than SMU?

 

[dickey moe]

I'm not smart enough to figure out all of the scenarios, but is there anyway that Texas or Georgia don't make the playoffs win or lose?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I'm not smart enough to figure out all of the scenarios, but is there anyway that Texas or Georgia don't make the playoffs win or lose?

Texas is in.

Georgia sucks but they'll get in even if they lose because of their name and wins against other overrated teams like Tennessee.

Got smoked by by a mediocre Ole Miss team. Barely survived against garbage Kentucky and mediocre Georgia Tech/Florida (and would've lost to Florida if Lagway hadn't gotten hurt).

 

[Instinctive]

So Big 12 winner is definitely in? I don’t really know how the rules work. I thought there was some rule where one of the conference winners could be squeezed out if ranked low enough.


Super cool to see Boise get in and get a bye. Has to be thrilling for their fans. Good for them.

Per NCAA site: The 5 highest ranked conference champs get auto bids. Doesn’t distinguish P5 vs G5, so I think B12 could be left out if they’re not in the next 7 highest ranked conference spots

Top 5 ranked conference champions get in. Top 4 get byes. B12 champ is in unless Army jumps the winner in the rankings, which isn't happening.

Army and Navy need to add another top 25 team to their schedules. They have the team chemistry and discipline to make the top 12 at some point. But they can't roll in with a ND loss each year as their main quality opponent game.

It would be very easy for each of the 4 largest conferences to be won by a team that was not in that conference until recently (maybe even in their first year). That will be the case if ASU, TEX, ORE, and SMU win.

Also wonder if ND is gonna get forced into a conference. I don't really like ND, but they could go 11-0 every year and never get a first round bye under this system. They need to pick the best 4 teams IMO. ORE loses and they are in a a first round game. Seems odd for the best team in the country over the season

You really want alabama, Georgia, and Texas to get the byes every other year?

If notre dame doesn’t like it, I’m sure they can find a conference who will take them and stop just beating up on service academies.

I think the 4 best teams should get the bye. Regardles of conference. ORE is one of the top 4 teams win or lose today. They should get a bye. But they are in a position that they may not. The same with TEX. They are a top 4 team even if a worse UGA team beats them today. A UGA team that certainly does not deserve a bye

It's interesting that people clearly hold views like this, but also think that if a conference title game contender loses, they shouldn't be able to be jumped by someone even if they look bad. I struggle to square that circle.

If we want the best teams, we have to recognize that sometimes a better team loses. But if we want to make the Wins and Losses mean a lot, then we need a structure that qualifies you based on record and not perception of how good the team is. Right?

I don't think the conf championship game should count as any more than another game in the season. ORE had a great season. Let's say they lose to PSU today. Fine. PSU leaps them. But that shouldn't put ORE out of the top 4 bye should it? Did that game suddenly make them worse than SMU?

Idk, how good do they look and how good does SMU look?

I'm just saying, with the most common SMU vs Alabama should SMU lose discussion...today, do people think Alabama is more or less likely to beat a given opponent than SMU?

If the answer is more...then I don't think anyone should complain about Bama getting in over SMU. That becomes an argument less about "the twelve best teams" and more about the twelve most deserving or something.

It's why I, repeating myself maybe annoyingly, see it as extremely likely that we end up with like:

64 team league
8 divisions of 8. Split into four conferences.
Conference champs get a bye. Division winners who didn't win conference get in. Four wild cards to the next 4 best records regardless of conference or division.

Play 7 games (your division) every year. Play the same finisher as you in the other division in your conference and a rotating same finisher as you in 3 other divisions. Make a typical which divisions which years schedule that cycles.

Basically the NFL but twice as big.

 

[fasteddie_21]

Oregon
Penn State
Texas
Georgia
ND
OSU
Tenn
Indiana
ASU
BSU


All above are guaranteed in. SMU should also be guaranteed in, but because of the Alabama name, I am not willing to guarantee that they are.

SMU/Clemson - winner automatically in (if SMU loses, it's them or Alabama)

Winner of Oregon/Penn State gets a bye
Winner of Texas/GA gets a bye
BSU is getting a bye
SMU gets a bye if they win. Otherwise, it 'should' be ASU, but might be Clemson

I think that covers it.

 

[MAC_32]

I'm not smart enough to figure out all of the scenarios, but is there anyway that Texas or Georgia don't make the playoffs win or lose?

No, current bubble is Bama v SMU if Clemson wins. Georgia could, but wouldn't fall below SMU, but not Bama- both have 3 losses and Georgia won straight up.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

So Big 12 winner is definitely in? I don’t really know how the rules work. I thought there was some rule where one of the conference winners could be squeezed out if ranked low enough.


Super cool to see Boise get in and get a bye. Has to be thrilling for their fans. Good for them.

Per NCAA site: The 5 highest ranked conference champs get auto bids. Doesn’t distinguish P5 vs G5, so I think B12 could be left out if they’re not in the next 7 highest ranked conference spots

Top 5 ranked conference champions get in. Top 4 get byes. B12 champ is in unless Army jumps the winner in the rankings, which isn't happening.

Army and Navy need to add another top 25 team to their schedules. They have the team chemistry and discipline to make the top 12 at some point. But they can't roll in with a ND loss each year as their main quality opponent game.

It would be very easy for each of the 4 largest conferences to be won by a team that was not in that conference until recently (maybe even in their first year). That will be the case if ASU, TEX, ORE, and SMU win.

Also wonder if ND is gonna get forced into a conference. I don't really like ND, but they could go 11-0 every year and never get a first round bye under this system. They need to pick the best 4 teams IMO. ORE loses and they are in a a first round game. Seems odd for the best team in the country over the season

You really want alabama, Georgia, and Texas to get the byes every other year?

If notre dame doesn’t like it, I’m sure they can find a conference who will take them and stop just beating up on service academies.

I think the 4 best teams should get the bye. Regardles of conference. ORE is one of the top 4 teams win or lose today. They should get a bye. But they are in a position that they may not. The same with TEX. They are a top 4 team even if a worse UGA team beats them today. And UGA does not deserve a bye even if they win today. They have not played good.

Who has Texas beaten to deserve a top 4 seed with a second loss to UGA today? A&M and Vandy? If UGA beats Texas twice, I'd say they easily should be ranked ahead of Texas.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Teams that lose conference championship games should not be penalized compared to teams that don't even play in one and get to sit at home. SMU would be better off just not playing tonight where Alabama is lucky they don't have to face another Vandy or Oklahoma.

 

[Schmeabs]

Carson Beck looks like Napoleon Dynamite

 

[FreeBaGeL]

So Big 12 winner is definitely in? I don’t really know how the rules work. I thought there was some rule where one of the conference winners could be squeezed out if ranked low enough.


Super cool to see Boise get in and get a bye. Has to be thrilling for their fans. Good for them.

Per NCAA site: The 5 highest ranked conference champs get auto bids. Doesn’t distinguish P5 vs G5, so I think B12 could be left out if they’re not in the next 7 highest ranked conference spots

Top 5 ranked conference champions get in. Top 4 get byes. B12 champ is in unless Army jumps the winner in the rankings, which isn't happening.

Army and Navy need to add another top 25 team to their schedules. They have the team chemistry and discipline to make the top 12 at some point. But they can't roll in with a ND loss each year as their main quality opponent game.

It would be very easy for each of the 4 largest conferences to be won by a team that was not in that conference until recently (maybe even in their first year). That will be the case if ASU, TEX, ORE, and SMU win.

Also wonder if ND is gonna get forced into a conference. I don't really like ND, but they could go 11-0 every year and never get a first round bye under this system. They need to pick the best 4 teams IMO. ORE loses and they are in a a first round game. Seems odd for the best team in the country over the season

You really want alabama, Georgia, and Texas to get the byes every other year?

If notre dame doesn’t like it, I’m sure they can find a conference who will take them and stop just beating up on service academies.

I think the 4 best teams should get the bye. Regardles of conference. ORE is one of the top 4 teams win or lose today. They should get a bye. But they are in a position that they may not. The same with TEX. They are a top 4 team even if a worse UGA team beats them today. And UGA does not deserve a bye even if they win today. They have not played good.

Who has Texas beaten to deserve a top 4 seed with a second loss to UGA today? A&M and Vandy? If UGA beats Texas twice, I'd say they easily should be ranked ahead of Texas.

Yeah Texas is a complete wildcard. They've beaten no one. They got the most insane conference draw I've ever seen. They only played 1 team in the top half of the conference and they lost that game by 2 scores.

It's the most insane in-conference draw I've ever seen. Their 7 wins were literally against 7 of the bottom 8 teams in the conference.

Their conference schedule, visualized

 

[bigbottom]

Wait, did Georgia get to choose both to defer and which direction?

 

[kupcho1]

Some of the takes are pretty bad today. It's the postseason guys, step up your game.

 

[Osaurus]

CHAOS!!!!

 

[Mile High]

Tell me again why BSU deserves a bye over Arizona State. No wins against a power 4 school ASU has what, 10 wins against power 4 schools.

 

[GregR]

Wait, did Georgia get to choose both to defer and which direction?

Georgie defers. Texas' choice to take the ball or choose direction.
Texas wisely chooses take the ball.
Georgia then gets to choose direction.

 

[bigbottom]

Wait, did Georgia get to choose both to defer and which direction?

Georgie defers. Texas' choice to take the ball or choose direction.
Texas wisely chooses take the ball.
Georgia then gets to choose direction.

Ah, sorry, I got totally confused (obviously), I thought they chose to receive in the second half. I’m dumb.

 

[GregR]

Wait, did Georgia get to choose both to defer and which direction?

Georgie defers. Texas' choice to take the ball or choose direction.
Texas wisely chooses take the ball.
Georgia then gets to choose direction.

Ah, sorry, I got totally confused (obviously), I thought they chose to receive in the second half. I’m dumb.

Yeah that's a pretty common misconception because it seems like that's going on. If the team who won said they wanted to choose a direction then and there, then the other team could then choose to get the ball now, plus then get the choice of taking the ball first in the second half.

Once saw a game (NFL I think?) where the player/captain who won the toss told the ref which direction they wanted to go. The ref was kind and clarified with him whether he was deferring their choice to the second half, or using their choice to take direction.

 

[WDIK2]

So Big 12 winner is definitely in? I don’t really know how the rules work. I thought there was some rule where one of the conference winners could be squeezed out if ranked low enough.


Super cool to see Boise get in and get a bye. Has to be thrilling for their fans. Good for them.

Per NCAA site: The 5 highest ranked conference champs get auto bids. Doesn’t distinguish P5 vs G5, so I think B12 could be left out if they’re not in the next 7 highest ranked conference spots

Top 5 ranked conference champions get in. Top 4 get byes. B12 champ is in unless Army jumps the winner in the rankings, which isn't happening.

Army and Navy need to add another top 25 team to their schedules. They have the team chemistry and discipline to make the top 12 at some point. But they can't roll in with a ND loss each year as their main quality opponent game.

It would be very easy for each of the 4 largest conferences to be won by a team that was not in that conference until recently (maybe even in their first year). That will be the case if ASU, TEX, ORE, and SMU win.

Also wonder if ND is gonna get forced into a conference. I don't really like ND, but they could go 11-0 every year and never get a first round bye under this system. They need to pick the best 4 teams IMO. ORE loses and they are in a a first round game. Seems odd for the best team in the country over the season

You really want alabama, Georgia, and Texas to get the byes every other year?

If notre dame doesn’t like it, I’m sure they can find a conference who will take them and stop just beating up on service academies.

I think the 4 best teams should get the bye. Regardles of conference. ORE is one of the top 4 teams win or lose today. They should get a bye. But they are in a position that they may not. The same with TEX. They are a top 4 team even if a worse UGA team beats them today. A UGA team that certainly does not deserve a bye

It's interesting that people clearly hold views like this, but also think that if a conference title game contender loses, they shouldn't be able to be jumped by someone even if they look bad. I struggle to square that circle.

If we want the best teams, we have to recognize that sometimes a better team loses. But if we want to make the Wins and Losses mean a lot, then we need a structure that qualifies you based on record and not perception of how good the team is. Right?

I don't think the conf championship game should count as any more than another game in the season. ORE had a great season. Let's say they lose to PSU today. Fine. PSU leaps them. But that shouldn't put ORE out of the top 4 bye should it? Did that game suddenly make them worse than SMU?

This then comes back to why even play the CCGs? I have no problem with the CCG winner getting in if they are one of the top 5 CCG winners or the top 4 CCG winners getting byes.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Arizona State per talking heads will benseeded 4th or as low as 12th?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

This then comes back to why even play the CCGs? I have no problem with the CCG winner getting in if they are one of the top 5 CCG winners or the top 4 CCG winners getting byes.

The CCGs are designed by and for the conferences, not the playoffs. The playoff committee has to work within the bounds of what teams play. They don't choose the schedule.

I think ignoring them would be just as silly as, say, ignoring the Clemson vs. Georgia game from the beginning of the year because other potential playoff teams were playing FCS teams that week.

It's always been this way. Sometimes a CCG hurts you. Sometimes it helps you. It's not always fair, in either direction. But life's not fair, and college football schedulling certainly isn't.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Maybe Kirby Smart should take a sedative or 12

 

[Tin Cup]

Who is the female sideline reporter who sounds like Marge Simpson chain-smoking?

 

[belljr]

Who is the female sideline reporter who sounds like Marge Simpson chain-smoking?

Don't you besmirch Holly Rowe

 

[fasteddie_21]

Both these teams look...underwhelming.

 

[dickey moe]

These QBs have been throwing up gift-wrapped ducks for INTs, and the defenses keep dropping them.

 

[crushedspirit]

Not sure what Ewers sees sometimes

Both these QBs are average at best

 

[dickey moe]

Slop game.

 

[General Malaise]

Losing to Kansas, Kansas State and Nebraska should also be factored in. Who you lose to is important as well. Again, Jeanty's team is not only going to the playoffs but they lost by 3 to the #1 team in the country. A game they should have won.

Getting thumped by a crappy Nebraska team is a major red X. At least for me.

I don't really see how your team being better or worse around you necessarily equates to you being more or less outstanding but I have that gripe with NFL MVP too.

Hunter plays offense and defense so losing to lackluster teams thrice should be part of his resume, no?

I can't tell if you're being intentionally obstinate or not.

Was Darrelle Revis ever not one of the best defenders just because the Jets consistently sucked? Is Jamarr Chase not one of the best receivers or Joe Burrow a bad QB because the Bengals keep losing?

My counter is: so what if I told you he was on another team and CU was otherwise ethe same and they lost seven games? And Boise without Jeanty only lost one additional game?

These are somewhat silly.

At the end of the day, given the award is for the "Outstanding performance which best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity. Winners epitomize great ability combined with diligence, perseverance, hard work."

Both guys have clearly done that. NOTHING in the criteria defining the award indicates your team must win. The difference is that one guy has done that on both sides, playing twice as much football. It's wild that he's only the favorite by as much as he is. He's a full time, above average player at two critical positions. Jeanty is awesome. He probably wins last year or next year.

If anything, Hunter could be docked because you question like the integrity of CU or something because people hate Deion. But idk what exhibits the pursuit of excellence more than pursuing it full time on both offense and defense.

Oh, good lord. This isnt even worth responding to it's so dumb. Revis and the Jets, huh?

I'm not playing a game of stupid hypotheticals with you.

The Deion hate is the silliest thing I've read in here. Get real.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Both these teams look...underwhelming.

If we are going to question if SMU is in for losing the ACCCG, then we need to question why UGA is in if they lose. 3 losses. Meh against Kentucky and MIssissippi St and UMass for a half. Wouldn't have beat Georgia Tech if the SEC refs called one of three terrible penalties they missed and still need 8 OTs. But they are S-E-C.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Travis Hunter scored 1 touchdown this year against a bowl eligible team (Texas Tech). His other 13 were stat padding against bad teams. Didn't score against Nebraska, Kansas St, or Baylor.

Jeanty sat out the 4th quarter and sometimes 3rd quarter too of many games because he got Boise so far ahead in the first half.

 

[Instinctive]

Losing to Kansas, Kansas State and Nebraska should also be factored in. Who you lose to is important as well. Again, Jeanty's team is not only going to the playoffs but they lost by 3 to the #1 team in the country. A game they should have won.

Getting thumped by a crappy Nebraska team is a major red X. At least for me.

I don't really see how your team being better or worse around you necessarily equates to you being more or less outstanding but I have that gripe with NFL MVP too.

Hunter plays offense and defense so losing to lackluster teams thrice should be part of his resume, no?

I can't tell if you're being intentionally obstinate or not.

Was Darrelle Revis ever not one of the best defenders just because the Jets consistently sucked? Is Jamarr Chase not one of the best receivers or Joe Burrow a bad QB because the Bengals keep losing?

My counter is: so what if I told you he was on another team and CU was otherwise ethe same and they lost seven games? And Boise without Jeanty only lost one additional game?

These are somewhat silly.

At the end of the day, given the award is for the "Outstanding performance which best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity. Winners epitomize great ability combined with diligence, perseverance, hard work."

Both guys have clearly done that. NOTHING in the criteria defining the award indicates your team must win. The difference is that one guy has done that on both sides, playing twice as much football. It's wild that he's only the favorite by as much as he is. He's a full time, above average player at two critical positions. Jeanty is awesome. He probably wins last year or next year.

If anything, Hunter could be docked because you question like the integrity of CU or something because people hate Deion. But idk what exhibits the pursuit of excellence more than pursuing it full time on both offense and defense.

Oh, good lord. This isnt even worth responding to it's so dumb. Revis and the Jets, huh?

I'm not playing a game of stupid hypotheticals with you.

The Deion hate is the silliest thing I've read in here. Get real.

This was a very rude response. I guess the original was in fact not in good faith either. Have a good day.

 

[belljr]

Slop game.

I'm enjoying it

 

[General Malaise]

These receivers for Georgia are not good. WTF?

 

[General Malaise]

Losing to Kansas, Kansas State and Nebraska should also be factored in. Who you lose to is important as well. Again, Jeanty's team is not only going to the playoffs but they lost by 3 to the #1 team in the country. A game they should have won.

Getting thumped by a crappy Nebraska team is a major red X. At least for me.

I don't really see how your team being better or worse around you necessarily equates to you being more or less outstanding but I have that gripe with NFL MVP too.

Hunter plays offense and defense so losing to lackluster teams thrice should be part of his resume, no?

I can't tell if you're being intentionally obstinate or not.

Was Darrelle Revis ever not one of the best defenders just because the Jets consistently sucked? Is Jamarr Chase not one of the best receivers or Joe Burrow a bad QB because the Bengals keep losing?

My counter is: so what if I told you he was on another team and CU was otherwise ethe same and they lost seven games? And Boise without Jeanty only lost one additional game?

These are somewhat silly.

At the end of the day, given the award is for the "Outstanding performance which best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity. Winners epitomize great ability combined with diligence, perseverance, hard work."

Both guys have clearly done that. NOTHING in the criteria defining the award indicates your team must win. The difference is that one guy has done that on both sides, playing twice as much football. It's wild that he's only the favorite by as much as he is. He's a full time, above average player at two critical positions. Jeanty is awesome. He probably wins last year or next year.

If anything, Hunter could be docked because you question like the integrity of CU or something because people hate Deion. But idk what exhibits the pursuit of excellence more than pursuing it full time on both offense and defense.

Oh, good lord. This isnt even worth responding to it's so dumb. Revis and the Jets, huh?

I'm not playing a game of stupid hypotheticals with you.

The Deion hate is the silliest thing I've read in here. Get real.

This was a very rude response. I guess the original was in fact not in good faith either. Have a good day.

You started off by insulting me. And now you're boohooing?

 

[crushedspirit]

Oooof these WRs are an eyesore

 

[irish eyes]

Carson Beck solidifying his late round draft status or undrafted.

 

[fasteddie_21]

Good God. WTF with both of these teams!

Georgia gonna get FSU'd????!??!?

 

[BlackCrowes]

That had to hurt

 

[belljr]

Who is the female sideline reporter who sounds like Marge Simpson chain-smoking?

Don't you besmirch Holly Rowe

N/m. It was Laura Rutledge lol

 

[Osaurus]

That had to hurt

Yep

 

[General Malaise]

FOX announcer Brock Huard articulated it perfectly on the broadcast tonight:

“If only coaches voted, Ashton Jeanty would win the Heisman. I fully believe that. They know. Travis Hunter is the most spectacular and most dynamic player, but the BEST player, who has elevated his team to a championship, the Playoff, and a CFP bye week, is Ashton Jeanty.”


Amen

 

[Tin Cup]

Has anyone ever dug their heels in and used facts, logic, or common sense to successfully persuade someone else on the internet to change their position on a matter of personal preference and subjective opinion?

 

[MAC_32]

Arizona State per talking heads will benseeded 4th or as low as 12th?

Do you understand how the seeding works?

 

[Instinctive]

Losing to Kansas, Kansas State and Nebraska should also be factored in. Who you lose to is important as well. Again, Jeanty's team is not only going to the playoffs but they lost by 3 to the #1 team in the country. A game they should have won.

Getting thumped by a crappy Nebraska team is a major red X. At least for me.

I don't really see how your team being better or worse around you necessarily equates to you being more or less outstanding but I have that gripe with NFL MVP too.

Hunter plays offense and defense so losing to lackluster teams thrice should be part of his resume, no?

I can't tell if you're being intentionally obstinate or not.

Was Darrelle Revis ever not one of the best defenders just because the Jets consistently sucked? Is Jamarr Chase not one of the best receivers or Joe Burrow a bad QB because the Bengals keep losing?

My counter is: so what if I told you he was on another team and CU was otherwise ethe same and they lost seven games? And Boise without Jeanty only lost one additional game?

These are somewhat silly.

At the end of the day, given the award is for the "Outstanding performance which best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity. Winners epitomize great ability combined with diligence, perseverance, hard work."

Both guys have clearly done that. NOTHING in the criteria defining the award indicates your team must win. The difference is that one guy has done that on both sides, playing twice as much football. It's wild that he's only the favorite by as much as he is. He's a full time, above average player at two critical positions. Jeanty is awesome. He probably wins last year or next year.

If anything, Hunter could be docked because you question like the integrity of CU or something because people hate Deion. But idk what exhibits the pursuit of excellence more than pursuing it full time on both offense and defense.

Oh, good lord. This isnt even worth responding to it's so dumb. Revis and the Jets, huh?

I'm not playing a game of stupid hypotheticals with you.

The Deion hate is the silliest thing I've read in here. Get real.

This was a very rude response. I guess the original was in fact not in good faith either. Have a good day.

You started off by insulting me. And now you're boohooing?

I re-read it and don't see an insult. It's ok. I obviously deeply offended you with the take that there are valid Heisman options beyond your favorite. I don't know why, but I hope you accept my apology. Was not my intent.

 

[belljr]

Jacob got smoked

Did they move it back at least?

 

[General Malaise]

Losing to Kansas, Kansas State and Nebraska should also be factored in. Who you lose to is important as well. Again, Jeanty's team is not only going to the playoffs but they lost by 3 to the #1 team in the country. A game they should have won.

Getting thumped by a crappy Nebraska team is a major red X. At least for me.

I don't really see how your team being better or worse around you necessarily equates to you being more or less outstanding but I have that gripe with NFL MVP too.

Hunter plays offense and defense so losing to lackluster teams thrice should be part of his resume, no?

I can't tell if you're being intentionally obstinate or not.

Was Darrelle Revis ever not one of the best defenders just because the Jets consistently sucked? Is Jamarr Chase not one of the best receivers or Joe Burrow a bad QB because the Bengals keep losing?

My counter is: so what if I told you he was on another team and CU was otherwise ethe same and they lost seven games? And Boise without Jeanty only lost one additional game?

These are somewhat silly.

At the end of the day, given the award is for the "Outstanding performance which best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity. Winners epitomize great ability combined with diligence, perseverance, hard work."

Both guys have clearly done that. NOTHING in the criteria defining the award indicates your team must win. The difference is that one guy has done that on both sides, playing twice as much football. It's wild that he's only the favorite by as much as he is. He's a full time, above average player at two critical positions. Jeanty is awesome. He probably wins last year or next year.

If anything, Hunter could be docked because you question like the integrity of CU or something because people hate Deion. But idk what exhibits the pursuit of excellence more than pursuing it full time on both offense and defense.

Oh, good lord. This isnt even worth responding to it's so dumb. Revis and the Jets, huh?

I'm not playing a game of stupid hypotheticals with you.

The Deion hate is the silliest thing I've read in here. Get real.

This was a very rude response. I guess the original was in fact not in good faith either. Have a good day.

You started off by insulting me. And now you're boohooing?

I re-read it and don't see an insult. It's ok. I obviously deeply offended you with the take that there are valid Heisman options beyond your favorite. I don't know why, but I hope you accept my apology. Was not my intent.

I promise I'm not deeply offended, just didn't appreciate the insinuation that I'm being obstinate when I truly believe the Heisman should go to the best player on one of the best teams. I don't think that take is unusual.

All good, brother. Nothing but love for you and I'm sorry I lashed out at you. Enjoy the rest of the games and Go Ducks!

 

[fasteddie_21]

Ok, this is high quality trolling. Well played BSU, Well played!

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[ChiefD]

The blue turf is horrible. Hated it when they installed it and still do to this day.

You're not their target demographic, grandpa.

I was 25 years ago when they put it in and its still terrible.

 

[fasteddie_21]

Georgia gonna get FSU'd.