2024 College Football Thread: Mid-tier SEC team stays undefeated in hypothetical matchup (12 Viewers)

[cheese]

Tennessee’s resume is not very good. They are a 2 loss team that played a horrific OOC schedule and drew the SEC equivalent of Indiana’s conf schedule. I would still have them behind OSU, Indiana, and SMU but it’s not going to matter. They will get their chance to prove me wrong because they’re rightfully above the cut line.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Michigan won in the trenches.

They have beat up OSU physically now for 4 years. OSU has all these shiny 5 star players, but the need to recruit more gritty type of players.

That's what Roman Wilson was saying last year. He said they are all show, no heart. Don't really want a fight.

And UM did it minus two guys projected to go in the top 20 picks in the NFL draft. The offense could have obviously used TE Loveland, and the defense held OSU to 10 points with their top CB Will Johnson not playing.

 

[culdeus]

Michigan won in the trenches.

They have beat up OSU physically now for 4 years. OSU has all these shiny 5 star players, but the need to recruit more gritty type of players.

That's what Roman Wilson was saying last year. He said they are all show, no heart. Don't really want a fight.

Um.

 

[Da Guru]

Michigan won in the trenches.

They have beat up OSU physically now for 4 years. OSU has all these shiny 5 star players, but the need to recruit more gritty type of players.

That's what Roman Wilson was saying last year. He said they are all show, no heart. Don't really want a fight.

Watched former OSU lineman Kirk Bartons "Ohio State Scoop" show yesterday after the game and he said the same thing. Kirk said "Michigan has tough guys, we have a bunch of fake tough guys, guys who talk tough but don`t back it up" Barton thinks it is time for Day to move on. Barton and his partner on the show sounded like they were going to cry, it was so somber.

 

[MAC_32]

IMHO, the rankings this week are REALLY important. My stream of thoughts on this (that no one is asking for) is this:

If a team is playing for their conference championship AND is already in the Top 12, then they stay in the Top 12, regardless of the result. Right? You can’t punish a team for earning the right to play the extra game, right?

So lemme work thru this. My ballpark WAG for rankings after this week:

1. Oregon
2. Texas
3. PSU
4. ND
5. Georgia
6. SMU
7. Tenn
8. Indiana
9. BSU
10. OSU?
11. ASU
12. Some SEC team


So we have Oregon/PSU CCG: Oregon loses = 5. PSU loses = 5 (if Texas wins) or 6 (if Georgia wins).
Texas/GA - Loser is 5/6 respectively.

SMU shouldn’t fall below 7 (look, if they lose I know they will fall but why?…they get punished for playing the CCG and Tenn & Indiana profit by missing their CCG?!?)

Then BSU/UNLV winner and ASU/ISU winner in. Again the CCG punishes BSU/ASU if they lose because they are already in the Top 12.

Anyway, just feels dumb to me that those teams get punished.

Had TAM won today then beats Georgia in the SECCG, congrats they played into the Top 12 but GA stay cuz was already in the Top 12. They just bump the lowest non CCG participant.

I’m sure y'all think I’m an idiot here, but where is the flaw in the thinking here?

You're not accounting for money, power, influence, and politics.

 

[MAC_32]

Michigan won in the trenches.

They have beat up OSU physically now for 4 years. OSU has all these shiny 5 star players, but the need to recruit more gritty type of players.

That's what Roman Wilson was saying last year. He said they are all show, no heart. Don't really want a fight.

Watched former OSU lineman Kirk Bartons "Ohio State Scoop" show yesterday after the game and he said the same thing. Kirk said "Michigan has tough guys, we have a bunch of fake tough guys, guys who talk tough but don`t back it up" Barton thinks it is time for Day to move on. Barton and his partner on the show sounded like they were going to cry, it was so somber.

They're an apt representation of their coach. I think that fake tough guy act is what led to that hilariously bad game plan. Open up the field and you win running away, but we're gonna run into a brick wall over and over again cause WE'LL SHOW THEM!

 

[Da Guru]

Michigan won in the trenches.

They have beat up OSU physically now for 4 years. OSU has all these shiny 5 star players, but the need to recruit more gritty type of players.

That's what Roman Wilson was saying last year. He said they are all show, no heart. Don't really want a fight.

Watched former OSU lineman Kirk Bartons "Ohio State Scoop" show yesterday after the game and he said the same thing. Kirk said "Michigan has tough guys, we have a bunch of fake tough guys, guys who talk tough but don`t back it up" Barton thinks it is time for Day to move on. Barton and his partner on the show sounded like they were going to cry, it was so somber.

They're an apt representation of their coach. I think that fake tough guy act is what led to that hilariously bad game plan. Open up the field and you win running away, but we're gonna run into a brick wall over and over again cause WE'LL SHOW THEM!

Barton basically said Ryan Day is soft, runs soft practices, lots of finesse. Then when he plays Michigan he wants to show how tough his team is and wants to pound the ball. OSU fans are blaming the kicker and he did miss 2 makeable FGs but Will Howard blew the game for OSU. Howard did not play well and had 2 bad INTs in the redzone, one that led to a Michigan TD, and one that probably cost OSU a TD.

 

[nysfl2]

Michigan won in the trenches.

They have beat up OSU physically now for 4 years. OSU has all these shiny 5 star players, but the need to recruit more gritty type of players.

That's what Roman Wilson was saying last year. He said they are all show, no heart. Don't really want a fight.

And UM did it minus two guys projected to go in the top 20 picks in the NFL draft. The offense could have obviously used TE Loveland, and the defense held OSU to 10 points with their top CB Will Johnson not playing.

Not sure that Johnson would have had much of an impact on the game, given that Ryan day refused to pass the ball even with him out

 

[cheese]

I know Buckeyes fans wanted them to throw more and they probably should have, but it’s obvious they don’t trust Howard. He has had some ridiculously bad INTs lately including that game and they probably felt their only real threat of losing considering OSU d v Mich o was Howard constantly throwing to the other team and defensive scores.

 

[MAC_32]

I know Buckeyes fans wanted them to throw more and they probably should have, but it’s obvious they don’t trust Howard. He has had some ridiculously bad INTs lately including that game and they probably felt their only real threat of losing considering OSU d v Mich o was Howard constantly throwing to the other team and defensive scores.

Playing scared is also an apt representation of their coach. Should sign him to a lifetime contract.

 

[Sparky Polastri]

IMHO, the rankings this week are REALLY important. My stream of thoughts on this (that no one is asking for) is this:

If a team is playing for their conference championship AND is already in the Top 12, then they stay in the Top 12, regardless of the result. Right? You can’t punish a team for earning the right to play the extra game, right?

So lemme work thru this. My ballpark WAG for rankings after this week:

1. Oregon
2. Texas
3. PSU
4. ND
5. Georgia
6. SMU
7. Tenn
8. Indiana
9. BSU
10. OSU?
11. ASU
12. Some SEC team


So we have Oregon/PSU CCG: Oregon loses = 5. PSU loses = 5 (if Texas wins) or 6 (if Georgia wins).
Texas/GA - Loser is 5/6 respectively.

SMU shouldn’t fall below 7 (look, if they lose I know they will fall but why?…they get punished for playing the CCG and Tenn & Indiana profit by missing their CCG?!?)

Then BSU/UNLV winner and ASU/ISU winner in. Again the CCG punishes BSU/ASU if they lose because they are already in the Top 12.

Anyway, just feels dumb to me that those teams get punished.

Had TAM won today then beats Georgia in the SECCG, congrats they played into the Top 12 but GA stay cuz was already in the Top 12. They just bump the lowest non CCG participant.

I’m sure y'all think I’m an idiot here, but where is the flaw in the thinking here?

You're not accounting for money, power, influence, and politics.

Exactly. We have to stop pretending that these decisions are based more on objectivity than subjectivity and what the best revenue options are.

 

[Stoneworker]

Michigan's rookie coach Sherrone Moore with greatest upset of OSU since another semi-famous rookie coach named Bo took down the Buckeyes as 17-pt underdogs in 1969.

Bright future for Coach Moore

Go Blue

 

[Insein]

Oregon only -3.5? I'm a PSU alum but man that seems obvious.

 

[MAC_32]

Oregon only -3.5? I'm a PSU alum but man that seems obvious.

If they lose they have an easier path to the ship

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Amongst the ACC, Big 12, and MWC...
If SMU & Boise win, they are 3 and 4 and the Arizona St/Iowa St is the 12 seed.
If SMU & UNLV win, then SMU is 3, Arizona St/Iowa St is 4, and UNLV is 12
If Clemson & Boise win, then Boise is 3, Arizona St/Iowa St is 4, and Clemson is 12
If Clemson & UNLV win, then Arizona St/Iowa St is 3, Clemson is 4, and UNLV is 12

If Texas beats Georgia, I think Ohio St, Georgia, Tennessee, and Indiana will probably be the 7-10 seeds. I assume the committee will move someone one spot to avoid rematches of both UGA-Tennessee and Ohio St-Indiana?

The key ranking this week will be Ohio State vs Tennessee as one of them will play at home and one on the road in the first round. Indiana and the final at-large (Alabama, SC, Miami or SMU if they lose) seem destined to be 10 and 11.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Was at the Penn State game today. They had Michigan vs Ohio State on the big screens around the outside of the stadium. The roar was loud when it went final.

We had it on at the tailgate at Autzen, as did many others. And since we’re all streaming everyone is a few seconds off of each other. So it was a series of cheers as people saw the end over a minute or so all around the parking lot.

And that was just the start of an incredible day at Autzen! Even capped it off watching the hoop team pick up their second win over a ranked team this week as we drove home. Not too shabby sitting here on December 1st with zero losses between football and hoops!

But as all of us Oregon fans know, none of it matters without finishing it, which the Ducks have obviously failed to do twice in the last 15 years.

 

[General Malaise]

FSU is just one quarterback, running back, anything resembling an offensive line, even one XFL-caliber receiver, a defensive line, linebacker duo, head coach, decent coordinators, and a good recruiting class away from being competitive.

Miami however had their best team in 23 years and still won’t win the ACC lol

One day I'll look back on my brief fondness for Mario Cristobal and a genuine belief that he was any good like I view the period in my life when I enjoyed the TV show Melrose Place. What was I thinking?

 

[Sister Havana]

Cignetti using Purdue to justify their playoff spot. JFC

IU 66 points. Purdue 67 yards total offense

I had a feeling Indiana would storm back with a dominant performance (and a big chip on their shoulders) after the OSU game last week, but that was beyond what I expected. Made this IU alum very happy. : )

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Cignetti using Purdue to justify their playoff spot. JFC

IU 66 points. Purdue 67 yards total offense

I had a feeling Indiana would storm back with a dominant performance (and a big chip on their shoulders) after the OSU game last week, but that was beyond what I expected. Made this IU alum very happy. : )

Good Lord! Where the hell have YOU been? Miss ya around these parts.

 

[whoknew]

It’s funny how ruining your rivals’ day, week, season can be so satisfying - even in the face of a disappointing overall season. Go Blue.

 

[top dog]

If they can ban finger guns (dumb) they will most likely ban flag planting this off-season.

 

[Ilov80s]

It’s funny how ruining your rivals’ day, week, season can be so satisfying - even in the face of a disappointing overall season. Go Blue.

Ended on a high note with Underwood, 50 burger on NW and beating Ohio State. Beat Sparty too so kind of a solid transitional year.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Miami behind both Alabama and South Carolina in the AP Poll, for what it's worth.

 

[General Malaise]

Was at the Penn State game today. They had Michigan vs Ohio State on the big screens around the outside of the stadium. The roar was loud when it went final.

We had it on at the tailgate at Autzen, as did many others. And since we’re all streaming everyone is a few seconds off of each other. So it was a series of cheers as people saw the end over a minute or so all around the parking lot.

And that was just the start of an incredible day at Autzen! Even capped it off watching the hoop team pick up their second win over a ranked team this week as we drove home. Not too shabby sitting here on December 1st with zero losses between football and hoops!

But as all of us Oregon fans know, none of it matters without finishing it, which the Ducks have obviously failed to do twice in the last 15 years.

Had to go to a Friendsgiving last night at the house of a Beaver. He did not have the game on. Missed everything. Seems like this one went according to plan?

 

[turnjose7]

The key ranking this week will be Ohio State vs Tennessee as one of them will play at home and one on the road in the first round. Indiana and the final at-large (Alabama, SC, Miami or SMU if they lose) seem destined to be 10 and 11.

Other than "SEC! SEC!" what is the argument to have Tennessee ranked higher than Ohio State? Both have 2 losses, each with one "good" loss and one "bad" loss. But among those, Oregon is better than Georgia (at least according to rank position) and Michigan is better than Arkansas (at least according to record). On the other hand, OSU has defeated 2 definite playoff teams and Tennessee's best win is against a team that might have an outside chance of making the playoffs.

 

[MAC_32]

The key ranking this week will be Ohio State vs Tennessee as one of them will play at home and one on the road in the first round. Indiana and the final at-large (Alabama, SC, Miami or SMU if they lose) seem destined to be 10 and 11.

Other than "SEC! SEC!" what is the argument to have Tennessee ranked higher than Ohio State? Both have 2 losses, each with one "good" loss and one "bad" loss. But among those, Oregon is better than Georgia (at least according to rank position) and Michigan is better than Arkansas (at least according to record). On the other hand, OSU has defeated 2 definite playoff teams and Tennessee's best win is against a team that might have an outside chance of making the playoffs.

Gonna have to squabble on the margins, so recency bias reigns supreme. OSU embarrassed themselves at home against their arch rival to bring their losing streak up to 4. Subjective or not, that's different than at Arkansas in early October. Mix the rest im a blender and is there a difference between Penn St, Indiana, Iowa, Nebraska, Alabama, Florida, Oklahoma, and Vandy? Also give credit to Tennessee for at least trying to schedule someone out of conference.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Was at the Penn State game today. They had Michigan vs Ohio State on the big screens around the outside of the stadium. The roar was loud when it went final.

We had it on at the tailgate at Autzen, as did many others. And since we’re all streaming everyone is a few seconds off of each other. So it was a series of cheers as people saw the end over a minute or so all around the parking lot.

And that was just the start of an incredible day at Autzen! Even capped it off watching the hoop team pick up their second win over a ranked team this week as we drove home. Not too shabby sitting here on December 1st with zero losses between football and hoops!

But as all of us Oregon fans know, none of it matters without finishing it, which the Ducks have obviously failed to do twice in the last 15 years.

Had to go to a Friendsgiving last night at the house of a Beaver. He did not have the game on. Missed everything. Seems like this one went according to plan?

That sounds....less than ideal.

Serious mismatch. It was 7-6 early in the 2nd quarter, and then the Ducks put up 3 TDs in 5 minutes. UW scored just before half to cut it to 14, but then the Ducks came out and put up 3 more (including one in the 3rd quarter, finally!) to put it away, including a TD drive led by Dante Moore. Last garbage time UW TD was against 2nd and 3rd string, who played on both sides of the ball for the last 10 minutes.

D was really good last night, Burch being back and healthy is huge. Ten sacks and gave up 43 yards rushing. The FUskies starting RB had 11 carries for a total of nine feet. Ducks just dominated on both lines, including averaging 6.6 a carry.

UW's QB is built like Tez, he's like 5'11" and a buck eighty, and he's really fast. I'll give him credit for hanging in there while just getting destroyed all night. But the rest of that team is trash. And even they managed to beat Michigan this year

 

[fasteddie_21]

Was at the Penn State game today. They had Michigan vs Ohio State on the big screens around the outside of the stadium. The roar was loud when it went final.

We had it on at the tailgate at Autzen, as did many others. And since we’re all streaming everyone is a few seconds off of each other. So it was a series of cheers as people saw the end over a minute or so all around the parking lot.

And that was just the start of an incredible day at Autzen! Even capped it off watching the hoop team pick up their second win over a ranked team this week as we drove home. Not too shabby sitting here on December 1st with zero losses between football and hoops!

But as all of us Oregon fans know, none of it matters without finishing it, which the Ducks have obviously failed to do twice in the last 15 years.

Had to go to a Friendsgiving last night at the house of a Beaver. He did not have the game on. Missed everything. Seems like this one went according to plan?

It really did. And, get this…they played great in the third Q. And 10 sacks. That plays, right?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Am I the only one that thinks this kinda sucks? Honestly this is the least interested I've been in CFB in a while.

A lot of these teams SUCK. Georgia, Tennessee, and Alabama are all hot garbage this year. They're living off their names and the SEC when the SEC is probably the weakest it's been in the modern era this year. I want to go heavy betting against them but they're going to end up playing other teams that are total garbage and have no business competing for a championship too, like Clemson or Indiana.

It's been hard to watch this year. Just so much trash, peewee level quarterback play. And now some of these guys are going to get to play for a championship in the playoffs? This season sucks. Give us Oregon vs. Texas, the only interesting game, and let's be done with it.

 

[MAC_32]

Am I the only one that thinks this kinda sucks? Honestly this is the least interested I've been in CFB in a while.

A lot of these teams SUCK. Georgia, Tennessee, and Alabama are all hot garbage this year. They're living off their names and the SEC when the SEC is probably the weakest it's been in the modern era this year. I want to go heavy betting against them but they're going to end up playing other teams that are total garbage and have no business competing for a championship too, like Clemson or Indiana.

It's been hard to watch this year. Just so much trash, peewee level quarterback play. And now some of these guys are going to get to play for a championship in the playoffs? This season sucks. Give us Oregon vs. Texas, the only interesting game, and let's be done with it.

I will go to my grave planting my flag **giggle** on 6 teams with round 1 on campus

 

[belljr]

Am I the only one that thinks this kinda sucks? Honestly this is the least interested I've been in CFB in a while.

A lot of these teams SUCK. Georgia, Tennessee, and Alabama are all hot garbage this year. They're living off their names and the SEC when the SEC is probably the weakest it's been in the modern era this year. I want to go heavy betting against them but they're going to end up playing other teams that are total garbage and have no business competing for a championship too, like Clemson or Indiana.

It's been hard to watch this year. Just so much trash, peewee level quarterback play. And now some of these guys are going to get to play for a championship in the playoffs? This season sucks. Give us Oregon vs. Texas, the only interesting game, and let's be done with it.

I will go to my grave planting my flag **giggle** on 6 teams with round 1 on campus

So 2 byes?

 

[cheese]

The key ranking this week will be Ohio State vs Tennessee as one of them will play at home and one on the road in the first round. Indiana and the final at-large (Alabama, SC, Miami or SMU if they lose) seem destined to be 10 and 11.

Other than "SEC! SEC!" what is the argument to have Tennessee ranked higher than Ohio State? Both have 2 losses, each with one "good" loss and one "bad" loss. But among those, Oregon is better than Georgia (at least according to rank position) and Michigan is better than Arkansas (at least according to record). On the other hand, OSU has defeated 2 definite playoff teams and Tennessee's best win is against a team that might have an outside chance of making the playoffs.

Gonna have to squabble on the margins, so recency bias reigns supreme. OSU embarrassed themselves at home against their arch rival to bring their losing streak up to 4. Subjective or not, that's different than at Arkansas in early October. Mix the rest im a blender and is there a difference between Penn St, Indiana, Iowa, Nebraska, Alabama, Florida, Oklahoma, and Vandy? Also give credit to Tennessee for at least trying to schedule someone out of conference.

Who did they try to schedule?

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

I'm admittedly not the biggest college football fan, but prior to yesterday the only time I had been aware of any sort of controversy around flag planting was when Baker did it to OSU, and even there I only really knew about it because Nick Bosa "got him back" a few years later in an NFL game.

And then yesterday there were multiple controversies, including flights and a near riot in Columbus. I honestly don't get it. Why is that so much more offensive than any other type of celebration, to the point where I see people actually justifying the violent responses from OSU/UNC, in a vein of "What can you expect when you taunt your rivals like that?"

I suppose there is a line somewhere that moves clearly into disrespectful territory. If Michigan players had dropped a deuce on the 50, I wouldn't judge OSU players for starting a fight. But for the most part, who cares? I'm sure it sucks to see your opponents celebrating a victory like that, but when Jack Sawyer is absolutely losing his #### over the idea of a flag planting, maybe the coaches should have told him to calm down, go to the locker room, and channel that anger towards Ohio State's CFP opponents. (Of course, that would have required Ryan Day actually having a pulse).

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

Am I the only one that thinks this kinda sucks? Honestly this is the least interested I've been in CFB in a while.

A lot of these teams SUCK. Georgia, Tennessee, and Alabama are all hot garbage this year. They're living off their names and the SEC when the SEC is probably the weakest it's been in the modern era this year. I want to go heavy betting against them but they're going to end up playing other teams that are total garbage and have no business competing for a championship too, like Clemson or Indiana.

It's been hard to watch this year. Just so much trash, peewee level quarterback play. And now some of these guys are going to get to play for a championship in the playoffs? This season sucks. Give us Oregon vs. Texas, the only interesting game, and let's be done with it.

I feel like college football has flipped. The past few years, there were super teams like UGA, Bama, Michigan and OSU who would roll through the regular season undefeated and then set up huge matchups in the conference title games/CFP. This year, there have been way more big matchups and upsets, but as a result the playoffs don't seem like they will be as exciting.

But who knows? Maybe it will end up like March Madness and we'll get lots of Cinderella runs to the title game

 

[MAC_32]

The key ranking this week will be Ohio State vs Tennessee as one of them will play at home and one on the road in the first round. Indiana and the final at-large (Alabama, SC, Miami or SMU if they lose) seem destined to be 10 and 11.

Other than "SEC! SEC!" what is the argument to have Tennessee ranked higher than Ohio State? Both have 2 losses, each with one "good" loss and one "bad" loss. But among those, Oregon is better than Georgia (at least according to rank position) and Michigan is better than Arkansas (at least according to record). On the other hand, OSU has defeated 2 definite playoff teams and Tennessee's best win is against a team that might have an outside chance of making the playoffs.

Gonna have to squabble on the margins, so recency bias reigns supreme. OSU embarrassed themselves at home against their arch rival to bring their losing streak up to 4. Subjective or not, that's different than at Arkansas in early October. Mix the rest im a blender and is there a difference between Penn St, Indiana, Iowa, Nebraska, Alabama, Florida, Oklahoma, and Vandy? Also give credit to Tennessee for at least trying to schedule someone out of conference.

Who did they try to schedule?

They scheduled NC St, been on a good run last few years, but took a step back this season.

 

[MAC_32]

I'm admittedly not the biggest college football fan, but prior to yesterday the only time I had been aware of any sort of controversy around flag planting was when Baker did it to OSU, and even there I only really knew about it because Nick Bosa "got him back" a few years later in an NFL game.

And then yesterday there were multiple controversies, including flights and a near riot in Columbus. I honestly don't get it. Why is that so much more offensive than any other type of celebration, to the point where I see people actually justifying the violent responses from OSU/UNC, in a vein of "What can you expect when you taunt your rivals like that?"

I suppose there is a line somewhere that moves clearly into disrespectful territory. If Michigan players had dropped a deuce on the 50, I wouldn't judge OSU players for starting a fight. But for the most part, who cares? I'm sure it sucks to see your opponents celebrating a victory like that, but when Jack Sawyer is absolutely losing his #### over the idea of a flag planting, maybe the coaches should have told him to calm down, go to the locker room, and channel that anger towards Ohio State's CFP opponents. (Of course, that would have required Ryan Day actually having a pulse).

2 teams planted their flag on Michigan's home field this season. Only difference is they didn't respond like a bunch of wussies.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Am I the only one that thinks this kinda sucks? Honestly this is the least interested I've been in CFB in a while.

On the one hand, in the 4-team system at this point in the season only 6-7 teams were even relevant still. Now we’ve got like 15 or so, giving us many more matchups that are meaningful and that I want to watch.

On the flip side, the stakes are undeniably reduced. tOSU would have been eliminated yesterday in every prior system, now they just don’t have a chance to get a bye.

The bigger issue to me is these unbalanced schedules we now have in the mega conferences where Texas and Indiana can end up not playing schedules anywhere near as difficult as most of their league mates. It’s not their fault they each have played one ranked team, and it’ll be different teams next year that experience that. But it really seems to make the at-large selections challenging. Will be interesting to see what the committee truly values and how they sort through it.

 

[kupcho1]

UW's QB is built like Tez, he's like 5'11" and a buck eighty, and he's really fast. I'll give him credit for hanging in there while just getting destroyed all night. But the rest of that team is trash. And even they managed to beat Michigan this year

So Oregon destroys Washington, who beat Michigan, who beat Ohio State, who lost by a point to Oregon who just destroyed Washington.
So ... anything can happen.
Yeah, college football is just awful.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

I'm admittedly not the biggest college football fan, but prior to yesterday the only time I had been aware of any sort of controversy around flag planting was when Baker did it to OSU, and even there I only really knew about it because Nick Bosa "got him back" a few years later in an NFL game.

And then yesterday there were multiple controversies, including flights and a near riot in Columbus. I honestly don't get it. Why is that so much more offensive than any other type of celebration, to the point where I see people actually justifying the violent responses from OSU/UNC, in a vein of "What can you expect when you taunt your rivals like that?"

I suppose there is a line somewhere that moves clearly into disrespectful territory. If Michigan players had dropped a deuce on the 50, I wouldn't judge OSU players for starting a fight. But for the most part, who cares? I'm sure it sucks to see your opponents celebrating a victory like that, but when Jack Sawyer is absolutely losing his #### over the idea of a flag planting, maybe the coaches should have told him to calm down, go to the locker room, and channel that anger towards Ohio State's CFP opponents. (Of course, that would have required Ryan Day actually having a pulse).

2 teams planted their flag on Michigan's home field this season. Only difference is they didn't respond like a bunch of wussies.

Yeah, I saw someone online arguing that didn't count because those schools weren't Michigan's rivals. So the rules are that it's fine for non-rivals, but if your archrival does it then it's pistols at dawn? Seems far too confusing. I think a better rule is that if you don't want your opponent to plant their flag on your field, don't lose to them at home

 

[SFBayDuck]

And now we’re at the part of the season where coaches are lobbying on Twitter.

 

[lsutigers]

I'm planting my flag now - 5 SEC teams (out of 7 possible SEC/at large spots) in the 12 with 2.5 weeks left to go.

Georgia (wins out, loses in SEC championship), Texas (loses to A&M), Tenn (wins out, not in SEC champ), Alabama (wins out, beats GA in SEC champ), Ole Miss (wins out, not in SEC champ). If I have the scenarios right, ND has to lose to Army and A&M loses to Auburn. Would rather see South Carolina but hard to see how it happens with the SMU/BYU duo.

This post aging like unpasteurized milk.

Buh-bye Ole Miss. Lol

Oof, RIGHT?!?! Yikes.

What a wild few weeks. Almost none of that was right and we're back to maybe 4 with Texas and Georgia solidly in, and Alabama and South Carolina likely favorites over Miami if things fall the right way (Clemson, SMU, Boise St).

 

[Brunell4MVP]

I'm a ACC fan, yet I'm a firm believer that the SEC is the toughest conference. It's way deeper than these other conferences. You have to show up against even the bottom of the barrel like Miss St, Kentucky, Auburn, and even Vandy this year. Oklahoma was a 10-3 team in 2023, and is 1-7 in SEC conference this year. They couldn't handle the transition the way Texas did. Yes the top of the Big 10 and Big 12 are very solid. But you get to the bottom and you barely have to show up. SEC teams will lose OOC games. It's bound to happen. But it isn't a lot, with exception of Ole Miss this year which can't show up against mid tier OOC opponents. They also play some horrible OOC state teams to help their budget so that hurts SEC Sos sometimes. So when UGA is crushing the Georgia Southerns of the world ... it's a budgetary reason to help out GA Southern's finances. They probably wouldn't play them otherwise.

But I am also a believer than the SEC made its own bed by making itself a super conference. ALA is not a good team this year. UGA should probably be out if they lose to Texas, despite UGA having the 6th toughest OOC schedule and 9th toughest schedule. They haven't won big games.

Really they should max out at 4 teams per conference. You could probably put in 6 SEC teams if you wanted. Heck, maybe the SEC should determine who those 4 teams are rather than the committee.

And this is why I hate the 12. 8 teams would have been fine.

A lot of rambling above. I just hate 3 loss teams being in the playoffs.


ETA ... I used to be against people coming down on college players. But now that there is NIL and they are paid, if OSU fans want to rip their kicker I'm all for it. Most players at top 25 programs are professionals no matter how the NCAA views it.

 

[kupcho1]

So when UGA is crushing the Georgia Southerns of the world ... it's a budgetary reason to help out GA Southern's finances. They probably wouldn't play them otherwise.

So they're just doing it out of the goodness of their heart.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

So when UGA is crushing the Georgia Southerns of the world ... it's a budgetary reason to help out GA Southern's finances. They probably wouldn't play them otherwise.

So they're just doing it out of the goodness of their heart.

They are doing it because the state asks them too I assume it's similar in the B10 when MINN plays Minnesota Northern. I have sat in the meetings for Virginia schools. VT doesn't want to play ODU. They are told to. And that gets ODU a check to keep their athletics department from going in the red.

 

[Instinctive]

Oklahoma was a 10-3 team in 2023, and is 1-7 in SEC conference this year. They couldn't handle the transition the way Texas did.

Look, I'm pretty harsh on OU football and expect 10-win seasons.

But this year, in 13 possible games (so approximately 52 games from your top 4 WRs and 65 games from your starting OLinemen) they lost to injury:

WRs: They lost 40 possible game starts. Including 30 out of 32 SEC games. They, for the entire conference schedule, had a top four WR on the depth chart for TWO starts
OL: I have to go and tally it up, but when I had last seen the stat (pre-Bama) they had lost over 30 out of the 50 game starts possible for their starting OL

It was obviously a terrible season. But "couldn't handle the transition" is a ridiculous take. Unless we think the SEC is so tough that players are more likely to get injured if they aren't bred for the SEC toughness? LOL.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

Oklahoma was a 10-3 team in 2023, and is 1-7 in SEC conference this year. They couldn't handle the transition the way Texas did.

Look, I'm pretty harsh on OU football and expect 10-win seasons.

But this year, in 13 possible games (so approximately 52 games from your top 4 WRs and 65 games from your starting OLinemen) they lost to injury:

WRs: They lost 40 possible game starts. Including 30 out of 32 SEC games. They, for the entire conference schedule, had a top four WR on the depth chart for TWO starts
OL: I have to go and tally it up, but when I had last seen the stat (pre-Bama) they had lost over 30 out of the 50 game starts possible for their starting OL

It was obviously a terrible season. But "couldn't handle the transition" is a ridiculous take. Unless we think the SEC is so tough that players are more likely to get injured if they aren't bred for the SEC toughness? LOL.

Would OU have gone 1-7 in conference if they were in the B12. probably 6-2. LOL

 

[Instinctive]

Oklahoma was a 10-3 team in 2023, and is 1-7 in SEC conference this year. They couldn't handle the transition the way Texas did.

Look, I'm pretty harsh on OU football and expect 10-win seasons.

But this year, in 13 possible games (so approximately 52 games from your top 4 WRs and 65 games from your starting OLinemen) they lost to injury:

WRs: They lost 40 possible game starts. Including 30 out of 32 SEC games. They, for the entire conference schedule, had a top four WR on the depth chart for TWO starts
OL: I have to go and tally it up, but when I had last seen the stat (pre-Bama) they had lost over 30 out of the 50 game starts possible for their starting OL

It was obviously a terrible season. But "couldn't handle the transition" is a ridiculous take. Unless we think the SEC is so tough that players are more likely to get injured if they aren't bred for the SEC toughness? LOL.

Would OU have gone 1-7 in conference if they were in the B12. probably 6-2. LOL

Yeah probably, even with the injuries LOL. I think a healthy OU is probably an 8 or 9-win team this year. They still almost had Tennessee, Ole Miss was super winnable, OUTX you never know, Mizzou was blown and an easy win they should have had even without all their offensive talent.

If anything, they should have had better trainers and I still have no idea how the heck Littrell got an OC job, but I think they'll contend just fine moving forward.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Lane Kiffin makes his case for Ole Miss over Alabama and South Carolina.

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[Ramblin Wreck]

So when UGA is crushing the Georgia Southerns of the world ... it's a budgetary reason to help out GA Southern's finances. They probably wouldn't play them otherwise.

So they're just doing it out of the goodness of their heart.

Yeah that was only half-truth. Georgia is looking for the free win and home game to make a crap load of money. They are helping the in-state school by paying them for the home game instead of paying Western Kentucky or Sam Houston to come get destroyed.

 

[Sullie]

I'm admittedly not the biggest college football fan, but prior to yesterday the only time I had been aware of any sort of controversy around flag planting was when Baker did it to OSU, and even there I only really knew about it because Nick Bosa "got him back" a few years later in an NFL game.

And then yesterday there were multiple controversies, including flights and a near riot in Columbus. I honestly don't get it. Why is that so much more offensive than any other type of celebration, to the point where I see people actually justifying the violent responses from OSU/UNC, in a vein of "What can you expect when you taunt your rivals like that?"

I suppose there is a line somewhere that moves clearly into disrespectful territory. If Michigan players had dropped a deuce on the 50, I wouldn't judge OSU players for starting a fight. But for the most part, who cares? I'm sure it sucks to see your opponents celebrating a victory like that, but when Jack Sawyer is absolutely losing his #### over the idea of a flag planting, maybe the coaches should have told him to calm down, go to the locker room, and channel that anger towards Ohio State's CFP opponents. (Of course, that would have required Ryan Day actually having a pulse).

To me, I think it's stupid and pointless. You won the game, why not act like you're NOT surprised you won the game? Why not walk off the field with class and show some respect for your rival and be happy with your win? If Ohio State did this up in Ann Arbor, I would be upset with our team for being this disrespectful and classless. But, no, Ohio State wasn't the only team that was "dunked on" with a flag planting nor was Ohio State the only team that got upset about it.

NC State beats UNC

Florida beats FSU

Arizona State beats Arizona

And, I don't really care what anyone else says, I love coach Franklin's decision at Penn State. His team won the game and he got out there and stopped his guys from doing this non-sense.

Penn State beats USC