2024 College Football Thread: Ohio State advances to play unbeaten hypothetical SEC team (3 Viewers)

[FreeBaGeL]

SMU's signature win is a close loss against the same team that South Carolina had just beaten the week before, on the road.

SMU over South Carolina is a joke.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

If it's PSU-SMU and then Boise, that's an easier draw than Oregon gets.

 

[Corporation]

My prediction on the final rankings:

1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. Boise
4. Arizona St
5. Texas
6. Penn St
7. Notre Dame
8. Ohio State
9. Tennessee
10. Indiana
11. SMU
12. Clemson

Perfect prediction. Sorry all of the Alabama hater don’t have anything to cry about.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Miracles happen!!! Hooray!!!! Time for Saban years!!!!!!
-QG

 

[Moe.]

I’m fine with SMU in but why are they not the 12? They literally just lost to Clemson like 10 hours ago

 

[Jayded]

So with how the matchups played out, SMU and Tennessee are the only “southern” teams headed to interesting northern weather scenarios for that time of year.

I’ll say I was curious as an ND fan had we gotten matched with a Miami or Bama how they’d have done in that weather. Indiana and ND will be a bus ride battle lol.

 

[Schmeabs]

This is such crap for Oregon. They would have been better off as the 2 seed as Georgia has a cake walk. So stupid. You are making the 1 seed path having to beat the 3 highest Vegas odds to to win the Championship. So incredibly stupid.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

As a former resident of Indiana, I love the IU-ND matchup.

 

[belljr]

I think CCGs are "pretty big deals" to football programs. But I could be wrong

To your point, CCGs would need to be renamed. CC would be regular season conference champs. RE NCAAB, I would love to know if a #1 seed in their power 4 conference tournament lost the first round and was not selected for the NCAA tourney (this would be a play out game). I doubt that has even happened. Meaning, the NCAAB tourney, the greatest tourney on the planet, have never had a play-out CCG for #1 seeds.

Let's talk though ... you are SMU, would you go back in time right now and opt-out with my proposal? I think the answer is clear. And we see this in the NFL by the way. How many #1 seeds "rest their players" when there is nothing to gain? The teams are defacto saying they dont care about those wins as they do not help them and their mission, the only mission, to win the Lombardi.

Also, lets look at PSU and their record. Tell me again who thinks PSU would destroy BSU? Heck, I was impressed with SMU vs Clemson. Do you think SMU plays PSU or even ND the same as Clemson?

I would much rather see Oregon opt out and see PSU play the field. I personally do not think PSU's resume is worth their seeding. This is the problem. Show me a real win PSU!!

Then why should only 4 those conferences get "play in games"

That's how it is now. Thats how it should always be for football as their is much less parity in NFAAF than compared to NCAAB and even the NFL. It ensures a quality product and not having lower tier teams get destroyed while at the same time allowing for non p4 teams a chance at the field.

No it's not. 5 conference champions get in.

And a potential technically for 6 if they are top 12 .... unlikely but still

Eta: not trying to argue but the plan has to include 5

 

[Schmeabs]

Oregon has to play Ohio State most likely. If they win they likely have to play Texas in Dallas which is basically a home game for them.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I’m fine with SMU in but why are they not the 12? They literally just lost to Clemson like 10 hours ago

Because they were 8 last week and Clemson was 17 and they didn't penalize SMU much for losing a conference championship and didn't move Clemson ahead of SC, Ole Miss and Alabama.

They don't take the 12 teams and then seed them. They just rank them. Same way PSU is ahead of Ohio St when Ohio St beat them.

 

[QuizGuy66]

The funny thing about the hand-wringing over the byes is that the power conferences insisted on them.

-QG

 

[need2know]

Schedules dont matter. Wins over top 25 teams dont matter. Just stack wins over cupcakes. Some of the resumes of these top 12 teams are complete garbage.

 

[MAC_32]

I’m fine with SMU in but why are they not the 12? They literally just lost to Clemson like 10 hours ago

To make them win in Happy Valley in winter

 

[MAC_32]

This is such crap for Oregon. They would have been better off as the 2 seed as Georgia has a cake walk. So stupid. You are making the 1 seed path having to beat the 3 highest Vegas odds to to win the Championship. So incredibly stupid.

Creating the clearest pathways possible for the SEC was always the priority

 

[Schmeabs]

If no conference byes Oregon would face the winner of Indiana and Boise State.

Penn State and Texas who have zero top 25 wins get rewarded

 

[Ghost Rider]

LOL ESPN graphic somehow avoids putting "keyl losses" on their pro-'Bama resume comparison.

-QG

That's ESPN for ya. They avoided showing anything in their resume comparison that favored SMU.

 

[Moe.]

I’m fine with SMU in but why are they not the 12? They literally just lost to Clemson like 10 hours ago

Because they were 8 last week and Clemson was 17 and they didn't penalize SMU much for losing a conference championship and didn't move Clemson ahead of SC, Ole Miss and Alabama.

They don't take the 12 teams and then seed them. They just rank them. Same way PSU is ahead of Ohio St when Ohio St beat them.

I mean I hear you but who cares about last week, that’s so silly that they would care about a week to week narrative like that. It’s a point in time. Any cogent ranking system should have Clemson ahead of SMU. I understand you are going to have to have some teams ahead of teams they lost to etc etc but this one was just yesterday and their resumes are not much different at all.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I’m fine with SMU in but why are they not the 12? They literally just lost to Clemson like 10 hours ago

Because they were 8 last week and Clemson was 17 and they didn't penalize SMU much for losing a conference championship and didn't move Clemson ahead of SC, Ole Miss and Alabama.

They don't take the 12 teams and then seed them. They just rank them. Same way PSU is ahead of Ohio St when Ohio St beat them.

I mean I hear you but who cares about last week, that’s so silly that they would care about a week to week narrative like that. It’s a point in time. Any cogent ranking system should have Clemson ahead of SMU. I understand you are going to have to have some teams ahead of teams they lost to etc etc but this one was just yesterday and their resumes are not much different at all.

If they drop SMU behind Clemson then SMU isn't in the playoff. Do you think Clemson should have moved ahead of SMU, Alabama, SC, Ole Miss, and Miami? Committee clearly views Clemson as the undeserving Cinderella type as they aren't ranked anywhere near Arizona St or Boise either.

 

[Jayded]

This is such crap for Oregon. They would have been better off as the 2 seed as Georgia has a cake walk. So stupid. You are making the 1 seed path having to beat the 3 highest Vegas odds to to win the Championship. So incredibly stupid.

I think it should re-seed after the first round for the top 4 seeds. Meaning if Clemson beats Texas, as the 12 seed, they play Oregon. And so on…

That way you don’t have so much pre-determined pathing that could reward teams where the auto byes go to lesser conference champions.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Now I can fully root for an Indiana upset given the opponent (otherwise would be rooting for them to have a spirited close loss to keep things good for the non-favored B1G schools) then they can go out and lose to Georgia.

-QG

 

[SFBayDuck]

This is such crap for Oregon. They would have been better off as the 2 seed as Georgia has a cake walk. So stupid. You are making the 1 seed path having to beat the 3 highest Vegas odds to to win the Championship. So incredibly stupid.

Hey, they kept out one of the only three coaches that has beaten Lanning. I’ll take it.

See you in Pasadena?

 

[Insein]

If it's PSU-SMU and then Boise, that's an easier draw than Oregon gets.

Yea would have liked to win the BIG title but Oregon consolation is play Ohio State in the 2nd round. Ok then

 

[QuizGuy66]

ESPN guy wants teams leagues to schedule to their whims. The thing is they don't know who is gonna be good at the beginning of the year. Heck the Illini schedule looked tougher heading into the hear than it proved to be as Michigan Nebraska and Kansas all weren't as good as early season rankings had them.

-QG

 

[whoknew]

This is such crap for Oregon. They would have been better off as the 2 seed as Georgia has a cake walk. So stupid. You are making the 1 seed path having to beat the 3 highest Vegas odds to to win the Championship. So incredibly stupid.

I don't think ND is a cakewalk. I think ND is quite good. And I wouldn't be shocked to see them beat GA.

 

[Moe.]

I’m fine with SMU in but why are they not the 12? They literally just lost to Clemson like 10 hours ago

Because they were 8 last week and Clemson was 17 and they didn't penalize SMU much for losing a conference championship and didn't move Clemson ahead of SC, Ole Miss and Alabama.

They don't take the 12 teams and then seed them. They just rank them. Same way PSU is ahead of Ohio St when Ohio St beat them.

I mean I hear you but who cares about last week, that’s so silly that they would care about a week to week narrative like that. It’s a point in time. Any cogent ranking system should have Clemson ahead of SMU. I understand you are going to have to have some teams ahead of teams they lost to etc etc but this one was just yesterday and their resumes are not much different at all.

If they drop SMU behind Clemson then SMU isn't in the playoff. Do you think Clemson should have moved ahead of SMU, Alabama, SC, Ole Miss, and Miami? Committee clearly views Clemson as the undeserving Cinderella type as they aren't ranked anywhere near Arizona St or Boise either.

I mean I guess you answered it with your first sentence. They wanted SMU in and the rankings were probably worked around that. If they felt like Clemson shouldn’t have been ranked ahead of the 3 SEC teams that didn’t make it I am not sure how you justify SMU ahead of those teams either.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Rose Bowl gotta be ecstatic at the idea of Ohio St vs Oregon.
-QG

 

[MAC_32]

This is such crap for Oregon. They would have been better off as the 2 seed as Georgia has a cake walk. So stupid. You are making the 1 seed path having to beat the 3 highest Vegas odds to to win the Championship. So incredibly stupid.

I think it should re-seed after the first round for the top 4 seeds. Meaning if Clemson beats Texas, as the 12 seed, they play Oregon. And so on…

That way you don’t have so much pre-determined pathing that could reward teams where the auto byes go to lesser conference champions.

Well, yeah, but then the matchups and programs they want can't have paths manufactured for them.

 

[Schmeabs]

This is such crap for Oregon. They would have been better off as the 2 seed as Georgia has a cake walk. So stupid. You are making the 1 seed path having to beat the 3 highest Vegas odds to to win the Championship. So incredibly stupid.

I don't think ND is a cakewalk. I think ND is quite good. And I wouldn't be shocked to see them beat GA.

Do you think Notre Dame is better than Ohio State?

 

[MAC_32]

This is such crap for Oregon. They would have been better off as the 2 seed as Georgia has a cake walk. So stupid. You are making the 1 seed path having to beat the 3 highest Vegas odds to to win the Championship. So incredibly stupid.

I don't think ND is a cakewalk. I think ND is quite good. And I wouldn't be shocked to see them beat GA.

Yeah, I don't think this is same ole' same ole' with ND, but perception is reality until proven otherwise.

 

[whoknew]

This is such crap for Oregon. They would have been better off as the 2 seed as Georgia has a cake walk. So stupid. You are making the 1 seed path having to beat the 3 highest Vegas odds to to win the Championship. So incredibly stupid.

I don't think ND is a cakewalk. I think ND is quite good. And I wouldn't be shocked to see them beat GA.

Do you think Notre Dame is better than Ohio State?

I don't know. Maybe. Would be a fun game to see.

 

[Capella]

Schedules dont matter. Wins over top 25 teams dont matter. Just stack wins over cupcakes. Some of the resumes of these top 12 teams are complete garbage.

Bama lost to two garbage teams. Weren’t even competitive against OU. They didn’t deserve it.

 

[whoknew]

Ok now that we have all that nonsense completed, let's get those bowl matchups set. Come on, Music City - Michigan v Vanderbilt!

 

[whoknew]

Schedules dont matter. Wins over top 25 teams dont matter. Just stack wins over cupcakes. Some of the resumes of these top 12 teams are complete garbage.

Bama lost to two garbage teams. Weren’t even competitive against OU. They didn’t deserve it.

How dare you. The Vanderbilt Commodores are a fine group of scrappy young men with bright futures.

 

[Schmeabs]

1 seed path is the 6 and 7 ranked teams
2 seed path is 5 and 8 ranked teams
3 seed path is 12 and 16 ranked teams
4 seed path is 9 and 10 ranked teams

Seems fair

 

[need2know]

Schedules dont matter. Wins over top 25 teams dont matter. Just stack wins over cupcakes. Some of the resumes of these top 12 teams are complete garbage.

Bama lost to two garbage teams. Weren’t even competitive against OU. They didn’t deserve it.

They have better wins than almost everyone in the top 12. Should have been in over smu easily.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Schedules dont matter. Wins over top 25 teams dont matter. Just stack wins over cupcakes. Some of the resumes of these top 12 teams are complete garbage.

Bama lost to two garbage teams. Weren’t even competitive against OU. They didn’t deserve it.

Who cares about Bama? South Carolina was the obvious choice. No bad losses. Multiple good wins. Beat the team (on the road) that SMU got credit for losing close to.

SMU played in a weak conference, somehow drew a schedule where they avoided almost all of the decent teams in that conference, and went 0-2 against ranked teams. Their signature win was a close loss to the same team that South Carolina had just beaten.

@need2know is right. Just schedule the worst group of cupcakes you can find, get rewarded. SMU's resume is barely top 25 worthy, much less top 12.

 

[fasteddie_21]

We knew all along that Oregon would have 'benefited' from losing the CG. I'll take the bye and c'est la vie!


What an opportunity and when they win it, no one can dispute their greatness?

 

[MAC_32]

@need2know is right. Just schedule the worst group of cupcakes you can find, get rewarded.

You're both wrong. Don't get butt ****ed on national tv by a mediocre Oklahoma team to get loss #3, get rewarded.

 

[Desert_Power]

SMU's signature win is a close loss against the same team that South Carolina had just beaten the week before, on the road.

SMU over South Carolina is a joke.

Weak schedules get rewarded. Same as day 1.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

1 seed path is the 6 and 7 ranked teams
2 seed path is 5 and 8 ranked teams
3 seed path is 12 and 16 ranked teams
4 seed path is 9 and 10 ranked teams

Seems fair

The Lions have a much easier path to the super bowl than any AFC team. Sometimes the brackets aren't fair.

 

[Moe.]

The worst part for Carolina is that the LSU loss was so poorly officiated.

 

[Moe.]

1 seed path is the 6 and 7 ranked teams
2 seed path is 5 and 8 ranked teams
3 seed path is 12 and 16 ranked teams
4 seed path is 9 and 10 ranked teams

Seems fair

As someone pointed out earlier we can thank the conferences for that.

Ultimately I think this is a great first attempt and I’m super pumped for these games. This is the best version of the postseason we’ve ever had and they will make some tweaks from here. Another step in the right direction.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I’m fine with SMU in but why are they not the 12? They literally just lost to Clemson like 10 hours ago

Because they were 8 last week and Clemson was 17 and they didn't penalize SMU much for losing a conference championship and didn't move Clemson ahead of SC, Ole Miss and Alabama.

They don't take the 12 teams and then seed them. They just rank them. Same way PSU is ahead of Ohio St when Ohio St beat them.

I mean I hear you but who cares about last week, that’s so silly that they would care about a week to week narrative like that. It’s a point in time. Any cogent ranking system should have Clemson ahead of SMU. I understand you are going to have to have some teams ahead of teams they lost to etc etc but this one was just yesterday and their resumes are not much different at all.

If they drop SMU behind Clemson then SMU isn't in the playoff. Do you think Clemson should have moved ahead of SMU, Alabama, SC, Ole Miss, and Miami? Committee clearly views Clemson as the undeserving Cinderella type as they aren't ranked anywhere near Arizona St or Boise either.

I mean I guess you answered it with your first sentence. They wanted SMU in and the rankings were probably worked around that. If they felt like Clemson shouldn’t have been ranked ahead of the 3 SEC teams that didn’t make it I am not sure how you justify SMU ahead of those teams either.

They didn't penalize SMU for losing the ACCCG where the SEC teams sat home because they weren't good enough to play in one.

 

[Desert_Power]

Ultimately I think this is a great first attempt and I’m super pumped for these games. This is the best version of the postseason we’ve ever had and they will make some tweaks from here. Another step in the right direction.

I tend to agree with this despite it being unfortunate that my alma matter doesn't make it despite being better than a couple of the teams in.

 

[NutterButter]

As an ND fan, I'm just excited to watch another meaningful high stakes game before they get blown out against Georgia which ironically would be the same final outcome under the old system based upon the AP rankings.

 

[Moe.]

I’m fine with SMU in but why are they not the 12? They literally just lost to Clemson like 10 hours ago

Because they were 8 last week and Clemson was 17 and they didn't penalize SMU much for losing a conference championship and didn't move Clemson ahead of SC, Ole Miss and Alabama.

They don't take the 12 teams and then seed them. They just rank them. Same way PSU is ahead of Ohio St when Ohio St beat them.

I mean I hear you but who cares about last week, that’s so silly that they would care about a week to week narrative like that. It’s a point in time. Any cogent ranking system should have Clemson ahead of SMU. I understand you are going to have to have some teams ahead of teams they lost to etc etc but this one was just yesterday and their resumes are not much different at all.

If they drop SMU behind Clemson then SMU isn't in the playoff. Do you think Clemson should have moved ahead of SMU, Alabama, SC, Ole Miss, and Miami? Committee clearly views Clemson as the undeserving Cinderella type as they aren't ranked anywhere near Arizona St or Boise either.

I mean I guess you answered it with your first sentence. They wanted SMU in and the rankings were probably worked around that. If they felt like Clemson shouldn’t have been ranked ahead of the 3 SEC teams that didn’t make it I am not sure how you justify SMU ahead of those teams either.

They didn't penalize SMU for losing the ACCCG where the SEC teams sat home because they weren't good enough to play in one.

I think you’re missing my point but it’s all good. You seem to be really hung up on the SEC stuff whereas for me this has nothing to do with those teams. I’m just saying I think Clemson should have been ahead of SMU. I’m perfectly fine if both of them are ahead of those 3 SEC teams. I thought SMU matching up with Texas in Austin would have been really cool.

 

[Jayded]

If they won’t punish championship game results, it’s more akin to looking at a 1-loss SMU vs a 3-loss Bama.

I don’t see the same doom and gloom about weak schedules. Bama having 2 losses and a win at Oklahoma, they’d be in ; even with that bad loss to Vandy and a loss on the road to Tennessee. What I see is they got at least one more buffer game because of their SOS and still almost made it. If the OU loss was close, they might have made it.

Saban was right - this was decided before this weekend when SMU was a few slots ahead of them. By that point, the OU loss in particular had done too much damage.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

@need2know is right. Just schedule the worst group of cupcakes you can find, get rewarded.

You're both wrong. Don't get butt ****ed on national tv by a mediocre Oklahoma team to get loss #3, get rewarded.

What are you talking about? South Carolina beat Oklahoma by 4 touchdowns.

 

[MAC_32]

I’m just saying I think Clemson should have been ahead of SMU.

From what I've gathered, Clemson couldn't jump South Carolina, and in order to keep SMU in they couldn't drop below Clemson, since Alabama (and Miami / Ole Miss) were ahead of South Carolina, SMU needed to stay ahead of everyone.