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GroveDiesel said:
MVS to sign with Bills according to Adam Schefter.

At this point, about as good a signing as we’re going to see at the position.
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Slightly better than a UDFA I guess. Shocked he is getting (1.1M) guaranteed money.

MVS is awful. I'm not sure he's better than Claypool, or Cephus, or Hollins. MVS has played his entire career with Rodgers or Mahomes. He's certainly had a lucky career so far. He's a #3 on his best day. Hopefully for the Bills he never sees the field.
 
Also, Bills at Dolphins in week two is pretty nice.

A - It's a night game so they won't get baked in the sun.
B - It means Mia @ Buf will likely be in the last 2 or 3 weeks of the season.
 
travdogg said:
MVS is awful. I'm not sure he's better than Claypool, or Cephus, or Hollins. MVS has played his entire career with Rodgers or Mahomes. He's certainly had a lucky career so far. He's a #3 on his best day. Hopefully for the Bills he never sees the field.
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MVS seemed to get open but had trouble catching or tracking the ball. He also got mauled on one play. Not a bad #3 WR, probably better than Claypool if he hangs onto the ball.
 
Lansdowne said:
Grigs Allmoon said:
This is such a strange WR room...

The not-so-wiley veteran Shakir
The young prospect Coleman
And, a load of journeyman types:
MVS
Cephus
Claypool
Hamler
Hollins
Isabella
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Don’t forget Curtis Samuel who may end up leading them all in touches.
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Oh, shoot. I did totally forgot to include him on that list. He was on my mind with this same post before the MVS signing.
 
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Grigs Allmoon said:
Grigs Allmoon said:
B - It means Mia @ Buf will likely be in the last 2 or 3 weeks of the season.
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Bummer on that part... What are the odds that the last 3 weeks of division games are all Pats and Jets?
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Kind of feels like the league is backing off the Bills just a bit. Feels like they are lining up the Jets and Dolphins as the favorites by matching them up in Week 18. The Jets getting 6 night games in the first 11 games of the season is pretty nuts too.

I’ll be honest, after all the night games last year I’m kind of over night games. Sunday 1pm games are great.
 
GroveDiesel said:
Grigs Allmoon said:
Grigs Allmoon said:
B - It means Mia @ Buf will likely be in the last 2 or 3 weeks of the season.
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Bummer on that part... What are the odds that the last 3 weeks of division games are all Pats and Jets?
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Kind of feels like the league is backing off the Bills just a bit. Feels like they are lining up the Jets and Dolphins as the favorites by matching them up in Week 18. The Jets getting 6 night games in the first 11 games of the season is pretty nuts too.

I’ll be honest, after all the night games last year I’m kind of over night games. Sunday 1pm games are great.
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I feel like the league is almost setting Miami up to be the division winner. They have a very easy schedule and very favorable scheduling.
We’re gonna need to take both games against Poyer and the Dolphins this year.
 
GroveDiesel said:
Grigs Allmoon said:
Grigs Allmoon said:
B - It means Mia @ Buf will likely be in the last 2 or 3 weeks of the season.
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Bummer on that part... What are the odds that the last 3 weeks of division games are all Pats and Jets?
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Kind of feels like the league is backing off the Bills just a bit. Feels like they are lining up the Jets and Dolphins as the favorites by matching them up in Week 18. The Jets getting 6 night games in the first 11 games of the season is pretty nuts too.

I’ll be honest, after all the night games last year I’m kind of over night games. Sunday 1pm games are great.
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I sort of welcome this. Look, it was a lot of fun to have the Bills be the league feel-good story for a few years. After the drought, we needed that. But after the past couple of seasons, I am ready to just be a "regular" good football team that contends year-in and year-out.

The AFC East is going to be a dogfight this year, especially if Rodgers doesn't get injured on the very first play from scrimmage this time. There are no gimmies in the division this year. Well, except for New England of course but that goes without saying.
 
The Bills went 4-2 in division last year and are set up well to repeat that record.

Miami has fallen apart the last few years to end the season and once again had a brutal stretch to close out, depending on how the Jets are playing.

I don’t know what to make of the Jets but I still like the Bills to win the division and the odds are pretty decent right now.
 
Speaking of bets, Allen’s O/U on passing yards are 3625, way below what he has done the last four years.

Feels like too much stock being put into loss of Diggs and Brady running it a lot more to end the year.
 
The Duff Man said:
Speaking of bets, Allen’s O/U on passing yards are 3625, way below what he has done the last four years.

Feels like too much stock being put into loss of Diggs and Brady running it a lot more to end the year.
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I totally get that Mahomes and Kelce have 1000% earned the deference they get. 2 future locked in HOFers that both have the potential to finish as the best ever at their position. But nobody is really freaking out about the lack of proven great WRs for the Chiefs because they have Kelce.

I think the Bills very much believe that Kincaid is going to be a major receiving threat. And that potential absolutely exists IMO. He seems to get totally left out of most people’s equation.

James Cool gets left out too. He had 445 yards receiving last year and I think that could go up too under Brady.
 
farfromforgotten said:
Just saw that you all signed an Olympic Gold Medal wrestler, Gable Steveson. Interesting, if nothing else.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...d-medal-wrestler-gable-steveson-signing-bills
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I'd bet just about anything he doesn't make it through camp. No idea why they are even bothering, especially since he's such a POS off the field. Like what's the best-case scenario? He's never played football before, and he was too lazy to make it as a pro wrestler.
 
Scheduling question for folks here. My brother and I are doing a fun road trip at the beginning of November. We're headed to Penn State on 11/2 (we're both alums) to see them host Ohio State and then driving that night to Buffalo to see the Bills squish the fish on 11/3. The current game time on the 3rd is 1PM. Can that change? At what point in the season do they start flexing games to night time?
 
According to ChatGPT:

Here's a brief overview of how flex scheduling typically works:

  1. Weeks 5-10: Flex scheduling can be used in a limited manner.
  2. Weeks 11-17: Flex scheduling can be used more freely, with a focus on ensuring that prime-time games on Sunday nights are compelling.
  3. Week 18: The final week of the season has the most flexibility, with game times being set to ensure that games with playoff implications receive the most exposure.
Fans and teams usually receive about 12 days' notice when a game is flexed to a different time slot.
 
Also, the SNF game that week is Jax@Phi, so given the Jax small-market component, and the always present possibility of the injury bug to strike any team, I would say there's at least a decent chance that game gets flexed.

Are you hoping for that, or hoping for it to stay at 1:00?
 
The Duff Man said:
The regression was last year. Jump on the bandwagon early!
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It will be interesting to see how this team performs this year. I do not think the defense will be better and a lot of changing parts on offense. The only positive I see is “if” Diggs was a “me” type player and impacted how the offense was run (in particular how Allen went through his progressions) based on that. It is possible that spreading the wealth around with a team mentality will allow the offense to play more efficiently. I have my doubts, but it is possible. I think there is enough talent there to play that way and succeed especially if Coleman can contribute right away and they can run the ball effectively.
 
Josh Allen’s contract looks so incredible now. I think he’s maybe 11th or 12th after Tua’s big payday. And Love will probably get more too. This is fantastic.
 
Buffalo beat reporters, experts and fans: Damar Hamlin is probably a roster bubble guy on the outside looking in just trying to survive

God: Lol, ya’ll not listening.
 
Grigs Allmoon said:
Also, the SNF game that week is Jax@Phi, so given the Jax small-market component, and the always present possibility of the injury bug to strike any team, I would say there's at least a decent chance that game gets flexed.

Are you hoping for that, or hoping for it to stay at 1:00?
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Hoping it stays at 1 since we have flights out that night.
 
Lot of talk of how good Elam has looked so far in training camp. That’s great news. Benford has reportedly looked great too and I’m guessing will still be the starter over Elam. But if Elam can be a really strong #3, that would be great.

I’m not super concerned about Buffalo receivers at this point. They don’t have a Justin Jefferson or a Travis Kelce, but I think they have enough good receiving options and Josh is so good that they’ll be just fine.

My biggest concern has been, and continues to be, at the safety position. My second biggest concern is DE. The fact that those are my two biggest concerns is even more concerning because if both of those positions are problems, the defense is going to struggle.
 
I'm still modestly optimistic about the Bills winning the division even if I expect a dogfight. But this team definitely has a lower floor than any of the recent squads we've put out there. It's very easy to come up with a 6-11 scenario. The loss of Diggs and Davis hurts more than expected as Allen struggles to adjust a group of very so-so WRs. Coleman has a typical rookie year in which he makes a few nice plays, but nothing that moves the needle in year one. Brady gets figured out and the scheme can't overcome the lack of talent at WR. Miller turns out to be cooked and has no impact. The safeties don't come together. These are all plausible things that probably won't all happen simultaneously, but they could.

Things will go south in a hurry in a scenario like that. And notice that I didn't mention injuries. Nobody can survive a major injury to their starting QB these days, so we'll ignore that one. But what happens if Kincaid suffers a high ankle sprain in Week 3? What if something happens to Rasul Douglas and we really have to live with a starting combo of Benford-Elam? Taron Johnson? Rapp? It feels like we have a slightly unusual number of players that we simply cannot afford to lose. I mean, Taylor Rapp shouldn't be a must-have guy, but he kind of is, and that's worrisome.

To be clear, I'm a little nervous about this season. I don't have any concerns at all about the long-term health of the franchise. Everyone has a "reset" year from time to time, and this is ours.
 
IvanKaramazov said:
Things will go south in a hurry in a scenario like that. And notice that I didn't mention injuries. Nobody can survive a major injury to their starting QB these days, so we'll ignore that one. But what happens if Kincaid suffers a high ankle sprain in Week 3? What if something happens to Rasul Douglas and we really have to live with a starting combo of Benford-Elam? Taron Johnson? Rapp? It feels like we have a slightly unusual number of players that we simply cannot afford to lose. I mean, Taylor Rapp shouldn't be a must-have guy, but he kind of is, and that's worrisome.
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I don’t know if there is a candidate, but the Bills need to trade some of their draft capital next year for a LB. They are paper thin.

Pulling a guy off the couch in the playoffs last year contributed to their exit.

Two years before it was Cincy picking on their fourth line S who was thrust into a starting roll.

These top AFC offenses are too good to be rolling out your third string defenders against in the playoffs.
 
Our company had our meeting with the Bills ticket rep on Friday, about whether to get in on the new stadium. Right now we're in the 100s, 39th-ish row basically right at concourse level, 45-yard line, two tickets....really nice seats. PSLs for the seats in the new stadium are $15,000 per ticket, and the 2026 season ticket price is $4,300 per ticket. It's double what we currently pay, plus the PSL.

They've offered us the option to move up one level and to 5-yard line instead of the 45, same season ticket price but the PSLs are $10,000 each instead of $15,000.

We're declining the tickets - just too steep. A couple of us are discussing whether to take the tickets and split them as a group rather than through the business, but I'm just not sure I can justify the price of $500+ per game (who gives a **** about preseason games, I'm not counting them) plus the steep PSL. $500-550 for really nice seats right now, when the new stadium hits and Josh Allen is still out there gunslinging and taking the Bills to the playoffs? Sure. $500-550 (plus inflation) for a game between the 4-8 Bills and the 3-9 Titans on December 5, 2035? Absolutely not. Maybe being a season ticket holder for awhile during the drought era has jaded me, but there were games you literally couldn't give away during that time.

I do wonder how the ticket sales are going. I'm definitely hearing reticence from people who have them, but the Bills say they still have a robust waiting list, so who knows.
 
Steve Tasker said:
Our company had our meeting with the Bills ticket rep on Friday, about whether to get in on the new stadium. Right now we're in the 100s, 39th-ish row basically right at concourse level, 45-yard line, two tickets....really nice seats. PSLs for the seats in the new stadium are $15,000 per ticket, and the 2026 season ticket price is $4,300 per ticket. It's double what we currently pay, plus the PSL.

They've offered us the option to move up one level and to 5-yard line instead of the 45, same season ticket price but the PSLs are $10,000 each instead of $15,000.

We're declining the tickets - just too steep. A couple of us are discussing whether to take the tickets and split them as a group rather than through the business, but I'm just not sure I can justify the price of $500+ per game (who gives a **** about preseason games, I'm not counting them) plus the steep PSL. $500-550 for really nice seats right now, when the new stadium hits and Josh Allen is still out there gunslinging and taking the Bills to the playoffs? Sure. $500-550 (plus inflation) for a game between the 4-8 Bills and the 3-9 Titans on December 5, 2035? Absolutely not. Maybe being a season ticket holder for awhile during the drought era has jaded me, but there were games you literally couldn't give away during that time.

I do wonder how the ticket sales are going. I'm definitely hearing reticence from people who have them, but the Bills say they still have a robust waiting list, so who knows.
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Man... That's steep. So many die hard fans are not going to be able to afford that. :crying:

I'm not sure my Dad and brother are going to want to keep our tickets given the prices and the fact that we'll all be out-of-state by the 2025 season.
 
Steve Tasker said:
Our company had our meeting with the Bills ticket rep on Friday, about whether to get in on the new stadium. Right now we're in the 100s, 39th-ish row basically right at concourse level, 45-yard line, two tickets....really nice seats. PSLs for the seats in the new stadium are $15,000 per ticket, and the 2026 season ticket price is $4,300 per ticket. It's double what we currently pay, plus the PSL.

They've offered us the option to move up one level and to 5-yard line instead of the 45, same season ticket price but the PSLs are $10,000 each instead of $15,000.

We're declining the tickets - just too steep. A couple of us are discussing whether to take the tickets and split them as a group rather than through the business, but I'm just not sure I can justify the price of $500+ per game (who gives a **** about preseason games, I'm not counting them) plus the steep PSL. $500-550 for really nice seats right now, when the new stadium hits and Josh Allen is still out there gunslinging and taking the Bills to the playoffs? Sure. $500-550 (plus inflation) for a game between the 4-8 Bills and the 3-9 Titans on December 5, 2035? Absolutely not. Maybe being a season ticket holder for awhile during the drought era has jaded me, but there were games you literally couldn't give away during that time.

I do wonder how the ticket sales are going. I'm definitely hearing reticence from people who have them, but the Bills say they still have a robust waiting list, so who knows.
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F the Pegulas.
 
Mr. Peterson said:
Steve Tasker said:
Our company had our meeting with the Bills ticket rep on Friday, about whether to get in on the new stadium. Right now we're in the 100s, 39th-ish row basically right at concourse level, 45-yard line, two tickets....really nice seats. PSLs for the seats in the new stadium are $15,000 per ticket, and the 2026 season ticket price is $4,300 per ticket. It's double what we currently pay, plus the PSL.

They've offered us the option to move up one level and to 5-yard line instead of the 45, same season ticket price but the PSLs are $10,000 each instead of $15,000.

We're declining the tickets - just too steep. A couple of us are discussing whether to take the tickets and split them as a group rather than through the business, but I'm just not sure I can justify the price of $500+ per game (who gives a **** about preseason games, I'm not counting them) plus the steep PSL. $500-550 for really nice seats right now, when the new stadium hits and Josh Allen is still out there gunslinging and taking the Bills to the playoffs? Sure. $500-550 (plus inflation) for a game between the 4-8 Bills and the 3-9 Titans on December 5, 2035? Absolutely not. Maybe being a season ticket holder for awhile during the drought era has jaded me, but there were games you literally couldn't give away during that time.

I do wonder how the ticket sales are going. I'm definitely hearing reticence from people who have them, but the Bills say they still have a robust waiting list, so who knows.
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F the Pegulas.
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I mean I get it....that's how stadiums get financed in 2024. But it's too rich for my blood.

I suspect the Bills gameday experience and gameday crowds will look a lot different in 2026 and beyond. There will still be some craziness like there always is, but these prices are truly going to price a lot of people out, I think.
 
I’d love a Bills perspective on the WR room.

Can gain a few insights in each individual player thread… but would love to hear from a homer.

I somehow own Shakir, Curtis and Keon in all leagues because they were so cheap and know that at least one of those guys has to hit pay dirt. But curious if any can be consistent.
 
VikingFrog said:
I’d love a Bills perspective on the WR room.

Can gain a few insights in each individual player thread… but would love to hear from a homer.

I somehow own Shakir, Curtis and Keon in all leagues because they were so cheap and know that at least one of those guys has to hit pay dirt. But curious if any can be consistent.
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I may actually like Shakir the most of the 3. I had some hope for Curtis being the guy this year but the turf toe isn’t a good way to start the season
 

Buffalo Bills sign former first-round draft pick S Lewis Cine​

Once a top pick of the Minnesota Vikings, Cine now joins the Bills’ practice squad.

I like this move. I think McDermott can get the most out of players and if there’s anything Cine has to give, McDermott will get it.
 
What do we think for this weekend?

I can see the Bills running it up on a mid/bad Arizona D.

I think they may want to prove that they can still chuck it all over the field even without Diggs, especially with his comments in GQ.

Bet the overs on the passing game.
 
Official prediction for the season is 10-7, borderline 9-8. Too many little holes and a very difficult schedule. Josh Allen pulls some magic **** every now and again to win some games they shouldn't. A couple bounces go the right way and they should be in the mix for the playoffs and for the division. A couple bounces go the wrong way and I could see them missing the playoffs entirely, or sneaking in as a very low seed. Overall I don't think this team makes any noise this year, but you're really never out of a game with him at QB. I expect 2025 to be a bigger year as the Bills reload bigtime in free agency.
 
Coleman was a much bigger part of the gameplan than I thought he’d be this early. I thought he played well though and showed he belongs. Kincaid and Shakir not that involved but I think that will change game to game.

I think not trying to force feed Diggs really will be beneficial to the offense overall. Josh is 100% the engine that makes things go.

Taron getting hurt was awful for the defense. They already are clearly going to have some issues at that 2nd level with Milano out, but Taron is excellent over the middle and in run support so his loss was really felt. Hopefully he’ll be back Thursday otherwise oh boy.
 
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