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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I wanted to post that after a win like we saw vs the Ravens I was expecting a let down today and at least a closer score
I was not happy at all seeing Josh Allen on the sideline and I'm a Phinsfan, lots of respect for Josh Allen and the team you all have put together
Very impressed today even if some will say it's the Jets
Stay healthy, stay focused, lot of young talent on the DL that already had some stars, those rookies are gonna get better every week
Wish i had listened to MoP Jr about James Cook, I passed on him every time, shame on me
Outstanding start to the season
I was not happy at all seeing Josh Allen on the sideline and I'm a Phinsfan, lots of respect for Josh Allen and the team you all have put together
Very impressed today even if some will say it's the Jets
Stay healthy, stay focused, lot of young talent on the DL that already had some stars, those rookies are gonna get better every week
Wish i had listened to MoP Jr about James Cook, I passed on him every time, shame on me
Outstanding start to the season
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
The Bills have won the turnover battle in 25 straight games now. That’s pretty nuts, especially since it wasn’t that long ago that the chatter about Josh was that he was a turnover machine.
Yogibear
Footballguy
Once again, the run defense looked mediocre without Ed Oliver and Matt Milano. They got the Saints next week in what will be the mismatch of the season. I don't know when Ed Oliver and Matt Milano will come back, but the run defense needs to improve if they want to beat the Chiefs in the AFC Championship Game.
Seems like a statistical anomaly.
But, it's Allen making better decisions, a good oline and run game, which leads to more open receivers. His threat of running causes more zone coverage - he started 12 of 12 versus the zone. His ytd completion % is 69.7. Without a true alpha wr. Only KC and PHI are real threats on their schedule. They could expose ATL defense as a fraud in game 6.
themeistersinger
Footballguy
I'm more worried about the pass rush than the run D. There was no pressure at all on Tua most of the night. The Dolphins do not have a great O-line, and Tua's average time to throw was at or near the highest of his career.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
None of them are practicing today. So it’s anyone’s guess at this point. If it’s another couple weeks for Oliver, it will be interesting to see how it all plays out with Michael Hoecht and Larry Ogunjobi both back from suspension after Week 6.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Ed Oliver getting back and Ogunjobi at some point should help in the run game. They’ll probably struggle against the power run game no matter what though as their defense simply isn’t built to stop it. That’s why Baltimore really is the worst matchup for Buffalo. It feels almost insane to say with the history against both teams, but I think I’d rather play KC in the playoffs this year than the Ravens even with Baltimore only being 1-3 and Buffalo having a win against the Ravens.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Would love to be a fly on the wall of the offensive meetings this week. The offense moved the ball at will on those first two drives, and then again in the 4th when they "break Josh Allen glass in case of emergency" and let him make plays. But they spent nearly the entire second quarter and much of the late 3rd/early 4th completely stuck in the mud. Were the Saints adjusting to something the Bills were doing? Were the Bills calling too conservative a gameplan trying to just get out of the game with a comfortable win? Penalties didn't help. I'm not being overly critical as they scored over 30 yet again, but it's just bizarre how they looked absolutely dominant on offense for ~half the game, and completely lost for the other half.
Also, at what point do we get concerned about James Cook's usage? Ray Davis can't even get on the field this year it seems. Ty Johnson still has his usual solid role, but Cook's usage is way higher than you would've hoped given the opponents the Bills have played and the more difficult schedule in the back half of the season.
Also, at what point do we get concerned about James Cook's usage? Ray Davis can't even get on the field this year it seems. Ty Johnson still has his usual solid role, but Cook's usage is way higher than you would've hoped given the opponents the Bills have played and the more difficult schedule in the back half of the season.
ChiefD
Footballguy
If Buffalo doesn't get the #1 seed in the AFC this year McDermott deserves to be fired.
Chiefs, Bucs, and Eagles look like the toughest games remaining on the schedule and all three at home. At worst I think you guys are 15-2. Chiefs won't match that and the Ravens clearly aren't.
This is the year. Like I've said before, if the Chiefs can't win it I want Buffalo to win it.
Chiefs, Bucs, and Eagles look like the toughest games remaining on the schedule and all three at home. At worst I think you guys are 15-2. Chiefs won't match that and the Ravens clearly aren't.
This is the year. Like I've said before, if the Chiefs can't win it I want Buffalo to win it.
Yogibear
Footballguy
I can tell you right now that the Eagles game is most likely a Super Bowl preview. I've already talked trash about it in the Eagles team thread, but I said at the beginning of the season that the Bills would have home field advantage, beat the Chiefs in the AFC Championship Game and then go on to beat the Eagles in Super Bowl LX.
Yogibear
Footballguy
I got a bad feeling that the loss to New England tonight cost the Bills home field advantage. Even with the loss tonight, can they still get the #1 Seed in the AFC? It would help if K.C. loses at home next week to the Lions. I've already got the Chiefs losing tomorrow night anyway. But, like I said, tonight's loss may have just cost the Bills home field advantage throughout the playoffs.
its harder to stick to the run game when the team falls behind. It is the reason why winning teams have productive rushers and losing teams dont.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Job 1 for NE's defense was to contain Cook's rushing, which they did to the tune of 3.3 ypc. I do think Cook should have been targetted more in the passing game. The Bills are a better team than that Pats, and Cook is a solid player, but he is not all that as a rusher.
Other than the turnovers and penalties, I do think the Bills would have benefited by more passing to TEs and Cook....there was success completing passes to Coleman, Shakir, etc but not a lot of YAC against NE's secondary. A better idea is to attack the NE linebackers (who suck) with TE/RB passing.
Yogibear
Footballguy
For Monday Night's game in Atlanta, they had better get James Cook more involved in the passing game, and use the tight ends a more often than they did this past Sunday. I'm a little worried about how they're going to be able to stop Bijan Robinson, but we'll see how the run defense is going to do come Monday.
Bills 33, Falcons 27
Bills 33, Falcons 27
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Milano didn’t play the entire 2nd half and the defense wasn’t nearly as good as they were the first half. Whether that was Milano’s absence or Patriot adjustments, who knows. But they clearly miss Oliver at DT as well. Bijan scares the crap out of me this week if Milano and Oliver aren’t both healthy and playing.
This defense badly needs Oliver, Ogunjobi, Hoecht, and Hairston back and healthy by the time playoffs start. Tre White has been a pretty obvious liability at CB and the D-line needs a boost.
The offense I’m not sure I see as many easy solutions. The WRs quite simply aren’t getting open. Teams are going to play 2 deep safeties, press man, and then the front 7 are going to clog up the short/intermediate stuff so that they can bottle up the running game, hem Josh in, and force the Bills to have long drives with a bunch of short stuff.
IMO their best option to beat that is to stretch the field up the middle with the TEs, but I think they’ve kept the TEs in to block so much in the running game that it’s hampering their ability to get them more involved in the passing game. They brought it up in the broadcast that the Bills really want to go out there, not really disguise or mix up things a ton, and simply impose their will. If that’s going to continue to be their philosophy, I wouldn’t bet on seeing the TEs become more involved. Heck, they’re insistent that Coleman be the X receiver when everyone in the world knows that his better fit is a big slot receiver. Once they commit to something, they are not the best at moving off of it.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Welp. Maybe next year.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
First play is the season. Cause a turnover that we recover but the ****ing DE is offside.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
I just don't think they're that good. I know I'm usually a pessimist, but there's just not a lot of talent on this roster. Many of the players who were very valuable pieces for a long time - guys like Tre, Milano, Taron Johnson.....they're just not very good anymore. The only offensive weapon is James Cook, the OL Is decent I guess, but it sure feels like this team is a Hall of Fame QB and a whole lotta nothin. There's a lot of mediocrity out there on that field, and it's starting to get exposed as the Bills play progressively better teams.
The oline is top 5 per this (Allen gives them a boost):I just don't think they're that good. I know I'm usually a pessimist, but there's just not a lot of talent on this roster. Many of the players who were very valuable pieces for a long time - guys like Tre, Milano, Taron Johnson.....they're just not very good anymore. The only offensive weapon is James Cook, the OL Is decent I guess, but it sure feels like this team is a Hall of Fame QB and a whole lotta nothin. There's a lot of mediocrity out there on that field, and it's starting to get exposed as the Bills play progressively better teams.
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Bills are a poorly coached team, always have been. Now that the team has less talent head coach being exposed
Allen covered up for the poor coaching, etc.
The OC is piss poor, the talent level on the team is not all that good anymore.
Wasted years with a mediocre head coach
Allen covered up for the poor coaching, etc.
The OC is piss poor, the talent level on the team is not all that good anymore.
Wasted years with a mediocre head coach
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
They've been solid overall. Didn't play well tonight.The oline is top 5 per this (Allen gives them a boost):I just don't think they're that good. I know I'm usually a pessimist, but there's just not a lot of talent on this roster. Many of the players who were very valuable pieces for a long time - guys like Tre, Milano, Taron Johnson.....they're just not very good anymore. The only offensive weapon is James Cook, the OL Is decent I guess, but it sure feels like this team is a Hall of Fame QB and a whole lotta nothin. There's a lot of mediocrity out there on that field, and it's starting to get exposed as the Bills play progressively better teams.
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Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Should've moved on from McDermott years ago. As much as we give Beane a pass, I'm not sure he deserves it either - looking like this is now 2 straight entire draft classes wasted.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
We suck dude.They've been solid overall. Didn't play well tonight.The oline is top 5 per this (Allen gives them a boost):I just don't think they're that good. I know I'm usually a pessimist, but there's just not a lot of talent on this roster. Many of the players who were very valuable pieces for a long time - guys like Tre, Milano, Taron Johnson.....they're just not very good anymore. The only offensive weapon is James Cook, the OL Is decent I guess, but it sure feels like this team is a Hall of Fame QB and a whole lotta nothin. There's a lot of mediocrity out there on that field, and it's starting to get exposed as the Bills play progressively better teams.
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Agreed. The botched kickoff with 13 seconds left was bad. McDermott is a good coach, but definitely has the look of a guy who just won't get this team over the hump. Sadly, it feels like the Bills may have missed their window. :(
Yogibear
Footballguy
I was reading on MSN that there's a possibility of the Bills trading for Saints WR Chris Olave. That might be the guy they need to replace the production that was lost when they traded Stefon Diggs away last year. Does anyone see the possibility of Josh Allen throwing TD passes to Chris Olave in the future?
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
This would surprise me. Were I the bills gm, I might be inclined to add a quality linebacker as injuries/depth has been a problem.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I’ve seen enough where I dropped them. I believe Atlanta was the lowest scoring team in the league and they torched the Bills. They couldn’t stop New Orleans either.
themeistersinger
Footballguy
They might be. 2 suspended guys coming back after the bye, possibility Milano comes back too. They have a soft schedule down the stretch, but not so much in the short term. But until some changes get made, no.
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