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Jameson Williams' efforts to improve, relatively reasonable price tag, result in unexpected extension from Lions​

Spoiler: Jamo got paid

Green Bay, Wisc. — It wasn’t the extension Detroit Lions fans expected this offseason, but they’ll gladly take it. Late Saturday night, ahead of the team’s season opener against the Green Bay Packers, the Lions reached a three-year agreement with Jameson Williams that could keep the speedy receiver in Honolulu blue through the 2029 season.

The move was particularly unexpected because Williams looked as if he might be the odd man out as Detroit navigates an increasingly complex salary cap situation, having handsomely paid Jared Goff, Penei Sewell, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Taylor Decker and David Montgomery last year, followed by Kerby Joseph in April. On top of those extensions, there's the upcoming need to lock up Aidan Hutchinson, Brian Branch, Sam LaPorta and Jahmyr Gibbs.

Most of those completed deals were top of the market for the player’s position, with Hutchinson potentially set to be the biggest contract for a non-quarterback in NFL history.

It’s why, at the league meetings this offseason, general manager Brad Holmes hinted that Williams could end up pricing himself out of Detroit’s range.

"We're still taking it as it goes," Holmes said. "Look, his fifth-year option, it's looking likely that we'll just pick that up, but in terms of extension, again, there's a lot of extensions that are hopefully coming. It's just one that you just don't know what's going to happen from a financial standpoint, because a wide receiver. It's expensive. It's very expensive.”

However, two things have happened since that spring conversation with the GM. The first and obvious, Williams forced the Lions to alter their priorities with a tremendous offseason that has him primed to take his production to another level after topping 1,000 yards for the first time in 2024.

“The big step he’s taken forward has been fun to watch,” quarterback Jared Goff said this week.

Secondly, that anticipated price tag that had cast clouds of doubt over his long-term future with the franchise ended up far more reasonable than initially envisioned.

It can be difficult to wrap your head around a $27.7 million salary being a bargain, but, relatively speaking, it absolutely is in this instance.

That’s because the three-year extension doesn’t kick in until 2027. So the Lions will benefit from already having Williams under contract this season and next, under the terms of his rookie deal. And while the average of the new money currently ranks 13th among receivers, by the time it kicks in, the cap will have likely continued to rapidly inflate, with several future pacts pushing Williams down the highest-paid list.

The average of Williams’ new money checks in just below some of the game’s highest-paid No. 2 receivers, Miami’s Jaylen Waddle and Cincinnati’s Tee Higgins, and just ahead of Philadelphia’s DeVonta Smith.

The deal rubber-stamps the faith the Lions have in Williams, who had a rocky start to his career, largely because of self-inflicted wounds.

Drafted in the first round of the 2022 draft, after the Lions traded up 20 spots to land him, Williams missed a good chunk of his rookie season recovering from the torn ACL he suffered in his final college game.

He caught just one of nine targets in six appearances down the stretch of that season, then was suspended for the first four games of the 2023 season — reduced from six — for naively violating the league’s gambling policy. Then, when he returned, he was underwhelming, catching just 24 passes for 354 in 12 games while struggling with drops.

It wasn’t until last season that he turned a corner and started delivering on Detroit’s massive investment, but not without another bone-headed suspension for violating the league’s performance-enhancing substance policy.

Still, the Lions remained patient.

“I know this; we dangled the rope down on the way up,” Lions coach Dan Campbell said. “We can’t wait for anybody, and over a year ago he started climbing his way up and he got to us. And maybe he lost his grip, but he’ll climb back up again. That rope’s still there, it’s tied to us, and he’ll be just fine. He's part of this team and I trust him.”

Williams returned from the two-game ban and turned it on down the stretch, hauling in 41 balls for 640 and four scores across the final nine games of the 2024 campaign.

As noted, Williams has taken his game to another level this offseason. Under the watchful eye of position coach Scottie Montgomery, Williams has steadily added lower-body strength, which has enhanced his ability to stop as fast as he accelerates, expanding his route tree.

“He's in that mode of where he is ascending and he's taking the right steps, but he has to do it every single day,” Montgomery said. “He's very receptive.”

The Lions went through the tribulations with Williams. But he climbed the rope back to them and then some. Now, they’re in a position to enjoy the fruits of those efforts for years to come.

This is really fantastic news, both because Jamo stays and also because they potentially locked him up before his big breakout

Unless he breaks out like a Jamar Chase, Jefferson or Lamb type they paid him like he broke out. Almost 28 AAV is a top 15 wr.

13th - slotted right alongside other #2 WR (Higgins, Smith, Waddle)

Today - when it kicks in in the 2027 season, he’ll be a bargain

Don’t think you’ll win the “we overpaid” argument here

I get it, would be off brand if you ever hinted at any kind of positivity

The consistency is impressive

I agree it will be a bargain. That is how almost all big contracts work in the NFL. I was just saying that they paid him like he is one of the top 15 wrs in the league. He hasn't been that yet.

It isn't that I don't say nice things about the Lions. Lion fans get mad when you don't love everything they do and cry hater when you disagree.

But stay consistent and just see what you want to see.

 

[Ilov80s]

Jameson Williams' efforts to improve, relatively reasonable price tag, result in unexpected extension from Lions​

Spoiler: Jamo got paid

Green Bay, Wisc. — It wasn’t the extension Detroit Lions fans expected this offseason, but they’ll gladly take it. Late Saturday night, ahead of the team’s season opener against the Green Bay Packers, the Lions reached a three-year agreement with Jameson Williams that could keep the speedy receiver in Honolulu blue through the 2029 season.

The move was particularly unexpected because Williams looked as if he might be the odd man out as Detroit navigates an increasingly complex salary cap situation, having handsomely paid Jared Goff, Penei Sewell, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Taylor Decker and David Montgomery last year, followed by Kerby Joseph in April. On top of those extensions, there's the upcoming need to lock up Aidan Hutchinson, Brian Branch, Sam LaPorta and Jahmyr Gibbs.

Most of those completed deals were top of the market for the player’s position, with Hutchinson potentially set to be the biggest contract for a non-quarterback in NFL history.

It’s why, at the league meetings this offseason, general manager Brad Holmes hinted that Williams could end up pricing himself out of Detroit’s range.

"We're still taking it as it goes," Holmes said. "Look, his fifth-year option, it's looking likely that we'll just pick that up, but in terms of extension, again, there's a lot of extensions that are hopefully coming. It's just one that you just don't know what's going to happen from a financial standpoint, because a wide receiver. It's expensive. It's very expensive.”

However, two things have happened since that spring conversation with the GM. The first and obvious, Williams forced the Lions to alter their priorities with a tremendous offseason that has him primed to take his production to another level after topping 1,000 yards for the first time in 2024.

“The big step he’s taken forward has been fun to watch,” quarterback Jared Goff said this week.

Secondly, that anticipated price tag that had cast clouds of doubt over his long-term future with the franchise ended up far more reasonable than initially envisioned.

It can be difficult to wrap your head around a $27.7 million salary being a bargain, but, relatively speaking, it absolutely is in this instance.

That’s because the three-year extension doesn’t kick in until 2027. So the Lions will benefit from already having Williams under contract this season and next, under the terms of his rookie deal. And while the average of the new money currently ranks 13th among receivers, by the time it kicks in, the cap will have likely continued to rapidly inflate, with several future pacts pushing Williams down the highest-paid list.

The average of Williams’ new money checks in just below some of the game’s highest-paid No. 2 receivers, Miami’s Jaylen Waddle and Cincinnati’s Tee Higgins, and just ahead of Philadelphia’s DeVonta Smith.

The deal rubber-stamps the faith the Lions have in Williams, who had a rocky start to his career, largely because of self-inflicted wounds.

Drafted in the first round of the 2022 draft, after the Lions traded up 20 spots to land him, Williams missed a good chunk of his rookie season recovering from the torn ACL he suffered in his final college game.

He caught just one of nine targets in six appearances down the stretch of that season, then was suspended for the first four games of the 2023 season — reduced from six — for naively violating the league’s gambling policy. Then, when he returned, he was underwhelming, catching just 24 passes for 354 in 12 games while struggling with drops.

It wasn’t until last season that he turned a corner and started delivering on Detroit’s massive investment, but not without another bone-headed suspension for violating the league’s performance-enhancing substance policy.

Still, the Lions remained patient.

“I know this; we dangled the rope down on the way up,” Lions coach Dan Campbell said. “We can’t wait for anybody, and over a year ago he started climbing his way up and he got to us. And maybe he lost his grip, but he’ll climb back up again. That rope’s still there, it’s tied to us, and he’ll be just fine. He's part of this team and I trust him.”

Williams returned from the two-game ban and turned it on down the stretch, hauling in 41 balls for 640 and four scores across the final nine games of the 2024 campaign.

As noted, Williams has taken his game to another level this offseason. Under the watchful eye of position coach Scottie Montgomery, Williams has steadily added lower-body strength, which has enhanced his ability to stop as fast as he accelerates, expanding his route tree.

“He's in that mode of where he is ascending and he's taking the right steps, but he has to do it every single day,” Montgomery said. “He's very receptive.”

The Lions went through the tribulations with Williams. But he climbed the rope back to them and then some. Now, they’re in a position to enjoy the fruits of those efforts for years to come.

This is really fantastic news, both because Jamo stays and also because they potentially locked him up before his big breakout

Unless he breaks out like a Jamar Chase, Jefferson or Lamb type they paid him like he broke out. Almost 28 AAV is a top 15 wr.

13th - slotted right alongside other #2 WR (Higgins, Smith, Waddle)

Today - when it kicks in in the 2027 season, he’ll be a bargain

Don’t think you’ll win the “we overpaid” argument here

I get it, would be off brand if you ever hinted at any kind of positivity

The consistency is impressive

I agree it will be a bargain. That is how almost all big contracts work in the NFL. I was just saying that they paid him like he is one of the top 15 wrs in the league. He hasn't been that yet.

It isn't that I don't say nice things about the Lions. Lion fans get mad when you don't love everything they do and cry hater when you disagree.

But stay consistent and just see what you want to see.

I think the Lions expect him to be. And while he isn’t top 15 in terms of production, he is a chess piece most teams don’t have. When he gets the ball with any space he’s a threat to score in a way only 3 or 4 other players in the league are. His speed is just different. And with Laporta and Amon Ra and a good run game, they don’t need him to be a 100 catch player.

 

[msudaisy26]

Jameson Williams' efforts to improve, relatively reasonable price tag, result in unexpected extension from Lions​

Spoiler: Jamo got paid

Green Bay, Wisc. — It wasn’t the extension Detroit Lions fans expected this offseason, but they’ll gladly take it. Late Saturday night, ahead of the team’s season opener against the Green Bay Packers, the Lions reached a three-year agreement with Jameson Williams that could keep the speedy receiver in Honolulu blue through the 2029 season.

The move was particularly unexpected because Williams looked as if he might be the odd man out as Detroit navigates an increasingly complex salary cap situation, having handsomely paid Jared Goff, Penei Sewell, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Taylor Decker and David Montgomery last year, followed by Kerby Joseph in April. On top of those extensions, there's the upcoming need to lock up Aidan Hutchinson, Brian Branch, Sam LaPorta and Jahmyr Gibbs.

Most of those completed deals were top of the market for the player’s position, with Hutchinson potentially set to be the biggest contract for a non-quarterback in NFL history.

It’s why, at the league meetings this offseason, general manager Brad Holmes hinted that Williams could end up pricing himself out of Detroit’s range.

"We're still taking it as it goes," Holmes said. "Look, his fifth-year option, it's looking likely that we'll just pick that up, but in terms of extension, again, there's a lot of extensions that are hopefully coming. It's just one that you just don't know what's going to happen from a financial standpoint, because a wide receiver. It's expensive. It's very expensive.”

However, two things have happened since that spring conversation with the GM. The first and obvious, Williams forced the Lions to alter their priorities with a tremendous offseason that has him primed to take his production to another level after topping 1,000 yards for the first time in 2024.

“The big step he’s taken forward has been fun to watch,” quarterback Jared Goff said this week.

Secondly, that anticipated price tag that had cast clouds of doubt over his long-term future with the franchise ended up far more reasonable than initially envisioned.

It can be difficult to wrap your head around a $27.7 million salary being a bargain, but, relatively speaking, it absolutely is in this instance.

That’s because the three-year extension doesn’t kick in until 2027. So the Lions will benefit from already having Williams under contract this season and next, under the terms of his rookie deal. And while the average of the new money currently ranks 13th among receivers, by the time it kicks in, the cap will have likely continued to rapidly inflate, with several future pacts pushing Williams down the highest-paid list.

The average of Williams’ new money checks in just below some of the game’s highest-paid No. 2 receivers, Miami’s Jaylen Waddle and Cincinnati’s Tee Higgins, and just ahead of Philadelphia’s DeVonta Smith.

The deal rubber-stamps the faith the Lions have in Williams, who had a rocky start to his career, largely because of self-inflicted wounds.

Drafted in the first round of the 2022 draft, after the Lions traded up 20 spots to land him, Williams missed a good chunk of his rookie season recovering from the torn ACL he suffered in his final college game.

He caught just one of nine targets in six appearances down the stretch of that season, then was suspended for the first four games of the 2023 season — reduced from six — for naively violating the league’s gambling policy. Then, when he returned, he was underwhelming, catching just 24 passes for 354 in 12 games while struggling with drops.

It wasn’t until last season that he turned a corner and started delivering on Detroit’s massive investment, but not without another bone-headed suspension for violating the league’s performance-enhancing substance policy.

Still, the Lions remained patient.

“I know this; we dangled the rope down on the way up,” Lions coach Dan Campbell said. “We can’t wait for anybody, and over a year ago he started climbing his way up and he got to us. And maybe he lost his grip, but he’ll climb back up again. That rope’s still there, it’s tied to us, and he’ll be just fine. He's part of this team and I trust him.”

Williams returned from the two-game ban and turned it on down the stretch, hauling in 41 balls for 640 and four scores across the final nine games of the 2024 campaign.

As noted, Williams has taken his game to another level this offseason. Under the watchful eye of position coach Scottie Montgomery, Williams has steadily added lower-body strength, which has enhanced his ability to stop as fast as he accelerates, expanding his route tree.

“He's in that mode of where he is ascending and he's taking the right steps, but he has to do it every single day,” Montgomery said. “He's very receptive.”

The Lions went through the tribulations with Williams. But he climbed the rope back to them and then some. Now, they’re in a position to enjoy the fruits of those efforts for years to come.

This is really fantastic news, both because Jamo stays and also because they potentially locked him up before his big breakout

Unless he breaks out like a Jamar Chase, Jefferson or Lamb type they paid him like he broke out. Almost 28 AAV is a top 15 wr.

13th - slotted right alongside other #2 WR (Higgins, Smith, Waddle)

Today - when it kicks in in the 2027 season, he’ll be a bargain

Don’t think you’ll win the “we overpaid” argument here

I get it, would be off brand if you ever hinted at any kind of positivity

The consistency is impressive

I agree it will be a bargain. That is how almost all big contracts work in the NFL. I was just saying that they paid him like he is one of the top 15 wrs in the league. He hasn't been that yet.

It isn't that I don't say nice things about the Lions. Lion fans get mad when you don't love everything they do and cry hater when you disagree.

But stay consistent and just see what you want to see.

I think the Lions expect him to be. And while he isn’t top 15 in terms of production, he is a chess piece most teams don’t have. When he gets the ball with any space he’s a threat to score in a way only 3 or 4 other players in the league are. His speed is just different. And with Laporta and Amon Ra and a good run game, they don’t need him to be a 100 catch player.

I agree and I would like the move if they didn't just invest three 3rd round picks into Tesla and he has shown some ability.

It just doesn't make sense. Take the money and invest in the defensive line or pay Jamo and invest the picks in the line. That is what bothers me.

 

[jon_mx]

Jameson Williams' efforts to improve, relatively reasonable price tag, result in unexpected extension from Lions​

Spoiler: Jamo got paid

Green Bay, Wisc. — It wasn’t the extension Detroit Lions fans expected this offseason, but they’ll gladly take it. Late Saturday night, ahead of the team’s season opener against the Green Bay Packers, the Lions reached a three-year agreement with Jameson Williams that could keep the speedy receiver in Honolulu blue through the 2029 season.

The move was particularly unexpected because Williams looked as if he might be the odd man out as Detroit navigates an increasingly complex salary cap situation, having handsomely paid Jared Goff, Penei Sewell, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Taylor Decker and David Montgomery last year, followed by Kerby Joseph in April. On top of those extensions, there's the upcoming need to lock up Aidan Hutchinson, Brian Branch, Sam LaPorta and Jahmyr Gibbs.

Most of those completed deals were top of the market for the player’s position, with Hutchinson potentially set to be the biggest contract for a non-quarterback in NFL history.

It’s why, at the league meetings this offseason, general manager Brad Holmes hinted that Williams could end up pricing himself out of Detroit’s range.

"We're still taking it as it goes," Holmes said. "Look, his fifth-year option, it's looking likely that we'll just pick that up, but in terms of extension, again, there's a lot of extensions that are hopefully coming. It's just one that you just don't know what's going to happen from a financial standpoint, because a wide receiver. It's expensive. It's very expensive.”

However, two things have happened since that spring conversation with the GM. The first and obvious, Williams forced the Lions to alter their priorities with a tremendous offseason that has him primed to take his production to another level after topping 1,000 yards for the first time in 2024.

“The big step he’s taken forward has been fun to watch,” quarterback Jared Goff said this week.

Secondly, that anticipated price tag that had cast clouds of doubt over his long-term future with the franchise ended up far more reasonable than initially envisioned.

It can be difficult to wrap your head around a $27.7 million salary being a bargain, but, relatively speaking, it absolutely is in this instance.

That’s because the three-year extension doesn’t kick in until 2027. So the Lions will benefit from already having Williams under contract this season and next, under the terms of his rookie deal. And while the average of the new money currently ranks 13th among receivers, by the time it kicks in, the cap will have likely continued to rapidly inflate, with several future pacts pushing Williams down the highest-paid list.

The average of Williams’ new money checks in just below some of the game’s highest-paid No. 2 receivers, Miami’s Jaylen Waddle and Cincinnati’s Tee Higgins, and just ahead of Philadelphia’s DeVonta Smith.

The deal rubber-stamps the faith the Lions have in Williams, who had a rocky start to his career, largely because of self-inflicted wounds.

Drafted in the first round of the 2022 draft, after the Lions traded up 20 spots to land him, Williams missed a good chunk of his rookie season recovering from the torn ACL he suffered in his final college game.

He caught just one of nine targets in six appearances down the stretch of that season, then was suspended for the first four games of the 2023 season — reduced from six — for naively violating the league’s gambling policy. Then, when he returned, he was underwhelming, catching just 24 passes for 354 in 12 games while struggling with drops.

It wasn’t until last season that he turned a corner and started delivering on Detroit’s massive investment, but not without another bone-headed suspension for violating the league’s performance-enhancing substance policy.

Still, the Lions remained patient.

“I know this; we dangled the rope down on the way up,” Lions coach Dan Campbell said. “We can’t wait for anybody, and over a year ago he started climbing his way up and he got to us. And maybe he lost his grip, but he’ll climb back up again. That rope’s still there, it’s tied to us, and he’ll be just fine. He's part of this team and I trust him.”

Williams returned from the two-game ban and turned it on down the stretch, hauling in 41 balls for 640 and four scores across the final nine games of the 2024 campaign.

As noted, Williams has taken his game to another level this offseason. Under the watchful eye of position coach Scottie Montgomery, Williams has steadily added lower-body strength, which has enhanced his ability to stop as fast as he accelerates, expanding his route tree.

“He's in that mode of where he is ascending and he's taking the right steps, but he has to do it every single day,” Montgomery said. “He's very receptive.”

The Lions went through the tribulations with Williams. But he climbed the rope back to them and then some. Now, they’re in a position to enjoy the fruits of those efforts for years to come.

This is really fantastic news, both because Jamo stays and also because they potentially locked him up before his big breakout

Unless he breaks out like a Jamar Chase, Jefferson or Lamb type they paid him like he broke out. Almost 28 AAV is a top 15 wr.

You have consistently underestimated Jamo and Brad.

 

[msudaisy26]

Jameson Williams' efforts to improve, relatively reasonable price tag, result in unexpected extension from Lions​

Spoiler: Jamo got paid

Green Bay, Wisc. — It wasn’t the extension Detroit Lions fans expected this offseason, but they’ll gladly take it. Late Saturday night, ahead of the team’s season opener against the Green Bay Packers, the Lions reached a three-year agreement with Jameson Williams that could keep the speedy receiver in Honolulu blue through the 2029 season.

The move was particularly unexpected because Williams looked as if he might be the odd man out as Detroit navigates an increasingly complex salary cap situation, having handsomely paid Jared Goff, Penei Sewell, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Taylor Decker and David Montgomery last year, followed by Kerby Joseph in April. On top of those extensions, there's the upcoming need to lock up Aidan Hutchinson, Brian Branch, Sam LaPorta and Jahmyr Gibbs.

Most of those completed deals were top of the market for the player’s position, with Hutchinson potentially set to be the biggest contract for a non-quarterback in NFL history.

It’s why, at the league meetings this offseason, general manager Brad Holmes hinted that Williams could end up pricing himself out of Detroit’s range.

"We're still taking it as it goes," Holmes said. "Look, his fifth-year option, it's looking likely that we'll just pick that up, but in terms of extension, again, there's a lot of extensions that are hopefully coming. It's just one that you just don't know what's going to happen from a financial standpoint, because a wide receiver. It's expensive. It's very expensive.”

However, two things have happened since that spring conversation with the GM. The first and obvious, Williams forced the Lions to alter their priorities with a tremendous offseason that has him primed to take his production to another level after topping 1,000 yards for the first time in 2024.

“The big step he’s taken forward has been fun to watch,” quarterback Jared Goff said this week.

Secondly, that anticipated price tag that had cast clouds of doubt over his long-term future with the franchise ended up far more reasonable than initially envisioned.

It can be difficult to wrap your head around a $27.7 million salary being a bargain, but, relatively speaking, it absolutely is in this instance.

That’s because the three-year extension doesn’t kick in until 2027. So the Lions will benefit from already having Williams under contract this season and next, under the terms of his rookie deal. And while the average of the new money currently ranks 13th among receivers, by the time it kicks in, the cap will have likely continued to rapidly inflate, with several future pacts pushing Williams down the highest-paid list.

The average of Williams’ new money checks in just below some of the game’s highest-paid No. 2 receivers, Miami’s Jaylen Waddle and Cincinnati’s Tee Higgins, and just ahead of Philadelphia’s DeVonta Smith.

The deal rubber-stamps the faith the Lions have in Williams, who had a rocky start to his career, largely because of self-inflicted wounds.

Drafted in the first round of the 2022 draft, after the Lions traded up 20 spots to land him, Williams missed a good chunk of his rookie season recovering from the torn ACL he suffered in his final college game.

He caught just one of nine targets in six appearances down the stretch of that season, then was suspended for the first four games of the 2023 season — reduced from six — for naively violating the league’s gambling policy. Then, when he returned, he was underwhelming, catching just 24 passes for 354 in 12 games while struggling with drops.

It wasn’t until last season that he turned a corner and started delivering on Detroit’s massive investment, but not without another bone-headed suspension for violating the league’s performance-enhancing substance policy.

Still, the Lions remained patient.

“I know this; we dangled the rope down on the way up,” Lions coach Dan Campbell said. “We can’t wait for anybody, and over a year ago he started climbing his way up and he got to us. And maybe he lost his grip, but he’ll climb back up again. That rope’s still there, it’s tied to us, and he’ll be just fine. He's part of this team and I trust him.”

Williams returned from the two-game ban and turned it on down the stretch, hauling in 41 balls for 640 and four scores across the final nine games of the 2024 campaign.

As noted, Williams has taken his game to another level this offseason. Under the watchful eye of position coach Scottie Montgomery, Williams has steadily added lower-body strength, which has enhanced his ability to stop as fast as he accelerates, expanding his route tree.

“He's in that mode of where he is ascending and he's taking the right steps, but he has to do it every single day,” Montgomery said. “He's very receptive.”

The Lions went through the tribulations with Williams. But he climbed the rope back to them and then some. Now, they’re in a position to enjoy the fruits of those efforts for years to come.

This is really fantastic news, both because Jamo stays and also because they potentially locked him up before his big breakout

Unless he breaks out like a Jamar Chase, Jefferson or Lamb type they paid him like he broke out. Almost 28 AAV is a top 15 wr.

You have consistently underestimated Jamo and Brad.

I haven't. I call Brad one of the best GM's in the league, just this week I called him and Campbell the best duo in the division, which is probably the strongest division in the NFL and in the second tier of front offices in the league.

I said Jamo was a bust after two years and he was, constant drops, suspensions etc. I also said he could change that and he did.

Just like Bobbie Layne and others you only see what you want to see and unless I say Jamo is better than Jefferson I hate him, I didn't say Brad is the best GM of all time so I underestimate him. You are wrong, as usual.

 

[Da Guru]

Williams is under team control for this season and next. Does the new deal start in 27?

 

[Ilov80s]

Williams is under team control for this season and next. Does the new deal start in 27?

Yes, this puts him with the Lions into 2029

 

[swabs]

Why are people so upset about 3rd round picks? They're pretty much a toss up (at best) if they're any good.

 

[jon_mx]

We had an organization for 60 years which could not draft any better than monkeys throwing darts at a draft board with an owner who only cared abkut butts in the seats. Now we have an well run organization with an awesome owner, coach and GM. The Lions went from the worst organization in all of sports to the best run organization in football. No GM in the league comes close to matching what Brad has done in the draft the last 4 years. The have a plan and a vision. They lose the OC and DC and I fully expect them to be better on both sides of the ball. I have a very low tolerance for people who think they know better. It is the equivalent of me trying to tell Bobby Fischer how to play chess.

 

[jon_mx]

Why are people so upset about 3rd round picks? They're pretty much a toss up (at best) if they're any good.

More like a 20 percent success rate. But they are much more valuable when Brad uses them than other GMs. People look at the handful of 3rd rounders who make it big and forget about the vast majority who are on the streets in a few years.

 

[jon_mx]

There is a reason why guys like Hock, Swift, and Za'darius are not on the team... because they are not dawgs. There is a reason despite suspensions and injuries that MCDC/Brad stood behind and want Jamo....he is not only the best open field runner in all of football, he is a dawg who works hard and improves every day and gives 110 percent.

 

[msudaisy26]

Why are people so upset about 3rd round picks? They're pretty much a toss up (at best) if they're any good.

It is where you find starters and great depth players. Good GMs like Holmes, I said something nice, take advantage of this and hit on more of these than bad GMs.

 

[jon_mx]

Jameson Williams' efforts to improve, relatively reasonable price tag, result in unexpected extension from Lions​

Spoiler: Jamo got paid

Green Bay, Wisc. — It wasn’t the extension Detroit Lions fans expected this offseason, but they’ll gladly take it. Late Saturday night, ahead of the team’s season opener against the Green Bay Packers, the Lions reached a three-year agreement with Jameson Williams that could keep the speedy receiver in Honolulu blue through the 2029 season.

The move was particularly unexpected because Williams looked as if he might be the odd man out as Detroit navigates an increasingly complex salary cap situation, having handsomely paid Jared Goff, Penei Sewell, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Taylor Decker and David Montgomery last year, followed by Kerby Joseph in April. On top of those extensions, there's the upcoming need to lock up Aidan Hutchinson, Brian Branch, Sam LaPorta and Jahmyr Gibbs.

Most of those completed deals were top of the market for the player’s position, with Hutchinson potentially set to be the biggest contract for a non-quarterback in NFL history.

It’s why, at the league meetings this offseason, general manager Brad Holmes hinted that Williams could end up pricing himself out of Detroit’s range.

"We're still taking it as it goes," Holmes said. "Look, his fifth-year option, it's looking likely that we'll just pick that up, but in terms of extension, again, there's a lot of extensions that are hopefully coming. It's just one that you just don't know what's going to happen from a financial standpoint, because a wide receiver. It's expensive. It's very expensive.”

However, two things have happened since that spring conversation with the GM. The first and obvious, Williams forced the Lions to alter their priorities with a tremendous offseason that has him primed to take his production to another level after topping 1,000 yards for the first time in 2024.

“The big step he’s taken forward has been fun to watch,” quarterback Jared Goff said this week.

Secondly, that anticipated price tag that had cast clouds of doubt over his long-term future with the franchise ended up far more reasonable than initially envisioned.

It can be difficult to wrap your head around a $27.7 million salary being a bargain, but, relatively speaking, it absolutely is in this instance.

That’s because the three-year extension doesn’t kick in until 2027. So the Lions will benefit from already having Williams under contract this season and next, under the terms of his rookie deal. And while the average of the new money currently ranks 13th among receivers, by the time it kicks in, the cap will have likely continued to rapidly inflate, with several future pacts pushing Williams down the highest-paid list.

The average of Williams’ new money checks in just below some of the game’s highest-paid No. 2 receivers, Miami’s Jaylen Waddle and Cincinnati’s Tee Higgins, and just ahead of Philadelphia’s DeVonta Smith.

The deal rubber-stamps the faith the Lions have in Williams, who had a rocky start to his career, largely because of self-inflicted wounds.

Drafted in the first round of the 2022 draft, after the Lions traded up 20 spots to land him, Williams missed a good chunk of his rookie season recovering from the torn ACL he suffered in his final college game.

He caught just one of nine targets in six appearances down the stretch of that season, then was suspended for the first four games of the 2023 season — reduced from six — for naively violating the league’s gambling policy. Then, when he returned, he was underwhelming, catching just 24 passes for 354 in 12 games while struggling with drops.

It wasn’t until last season that he turned a corner and started delivering on Detroit’s massive investment, but not without another bone-headed suspension for violating the league’s performance-enhancing substance policy.

Still, the Lions remained patient.

“I know this; we dangled the rope down on the way up,” Lions coach Dan Campbell said. “We can’t wait for anybody, and over a year ago he started climbing his way up and he got to us. And maybe he lost his grip, but he’ll climb back up again. That rope’s still there, it’s tied to us, and he’ll be just fine. He's part of this team and I trust him.”

Williams returned from the two-game ban and turned it on down the stretch, hauling in 41 balls for 640 and four scores across the final nine games of the 2024 campaign.

As noted, Williams has taken his game to another level this offseason. Under the watchful eye of position coach Scottie Montgomery, Williams has steadily added lower-body strength, which has enhanced his ability to stop as fast as he accelerates, expanding his route tree.

“He's in that mode of where he is ascending and he's taking the right steps, but he has to do it every single day,” Montgomery said. “He's very receptive.”

The Lions went through the tribulations with Williams. But he climbed the rope back to them and then some. Now, they’re in a position to enjoy the fruits of those efforts for years to come.

This is really fantastic news, both because Jamo stays and also because they potentially locked him up before his big breakout

Unless he breaks out like a Jamar Chase, Jefferson or Lamb type they paid him like he broke out. Almost 28 AAV is a top 15 wr.

You have consistently underestimated Jamo and Brad.

I haven't. I call Brad one of the best GM's in the league, just this week I called him and Campbell the best duo in the division, which is probably the strongest division in the NFL and in the second tier of front offices in the league.

I said Jamo was a bust after two years and he was, constant drops, suspensions etc. I also said he could change that and he did.

Just like Bobbie Layne and others you only see what you want to see and unless I say Jamo is better than Jefferson I hate him, I didn't say Brad is the best GM of all time so I underestimate him. You are wrong, as usual.

You compliments are always veiled with criticism. You can't just say, wow you look beautiful. What you generally say is, you are beautiful but your teeth are crooked. Instead of acknowledging greatness, the buts negates any compliment.

 

[msudaisy26]

We had an organization for 60 years which could not draft any better than monkeys throwing darts at a draft board with an owner who only cared abkut butts in the seats. Now we have an well run organization with an awesome owner, coach and GM. The Lions went from the worst organization in all of sports to the best run organization in football. No GM in the league comes close to matching what Brad has done in the draft the last 4 years. The have a plan and a vision. They lose the OC and DC and I fully expect them to be better on both sides of the ball. I have a very low tolerance for people who think they know better. It is the equivalent of me trying to tell Bobby Fischer how to play chess.

This is where you are wrong. Thr turn around is great, but there are front offices that do better. The Eagles for one.

 

[msudaisy26]

Jameson Williams' efforts to improve, relatively reasonable price tag, result in unexpected extension from Lions​

Spoiler: Jamo got paid

Green Bay, Wisc. — It wasn’t the extension Detroit Lions fans expected this offseason, but they’ll gladly take it. Late Saturday night, ahead of the team’s season opener against the Green Bay Packers, the Lions reached a three-year agreement with Jameson Williams that could keep the speedy receiver in Honolulu blue through the 2029 season.

The move was particularly unexpected because Williams looked as if he might be the odd man out as Detroit navigates an increasingly complex salary cap situation, having handsomely paid Jared Goff, Penei Sewell, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Taylor Decker and David Montgomery last year, followed by Kerby Joseph in April. On top of those extensions, there's the upcoming need to lock up Aidan Hutchinson, Brian Branch, Sam LaPorta and Jahmyr Gibbs.

Most of those completed deals were top of the market for the player’s position, with Hutchinson potentially set to be the biggest contract for a non-quarterback in NFL history.

It’s why, at the league meetings this offseason, general manager Brad Holmes hinted that Williams could end up pricing himself out of Detroit’s range.

"We're still taking it as it goes," Holmes said. "Look, his fifth-year option, it's looking likely that we'll just pick that up, but in terms of extension, again, there's a lot of extensions that are hopefully coming. It's just one that you just don't know what's going to happen from a financial standpoint, because a wide receiver. It's expensive. It's very expensive.”

However, two things have happened since that spring conversation with the GM. The first and obvious, Williams forced the Lions to alter their priorities with a tremendous offseason that has him primed to take his production to another level after topping 1,000 yards for the first time in 2024.

“The big step he’s taken forward has been fun to watch,” quarterback Jared Goff said this week.

Secondly, that anticipated price tag that had cast clouds of doubt over his long-term future with the franchise ended up far more reasonable than initially envisioned.

It can be difficult to wrap your head around a $27.7 million salary being a bargain, but, relatively speaking, it absolutely is in this instance.

That’s because the three-year extension doesn’t kick in until 2027. So the Lions will benefit from already having Williams under contract this season and next, under the terms of his rookie deal. And while the average of the new money currently ranks 13th among receivers, by the time it kicks in, the cap will have likely continued to rapidly inflate, with several future pacts pushing Williams down the highest-paid list.

The average of Williams’ new money checks in just below some of the game’s highest-paid No. 2 receivers, Miami’s Jaylen Waddle and Cincinnati’s Tee Higgins, and just ahead of Philadelphia’s DeVonta Smith.

The deal rubber-stamps the faith the Lions have in Williams, who had a rocky start to his career, largely because of self-inflicted wounds.

Drafted in the first round of the 2022 draft, after the Lions traded up 20 spots to land him, Williams missed a good chunk of his rookie season recovering from the torn ACL he suffered in his final college game.

He caught just one of nine targets in six appearances down the stretch of that season, then was suspended for the first four games of the 2023 season — reduced from six — for naively violating the league’s gambling policy. Then, when he returned, he was underwhelming, catching just 24 passes for 354 in 12 games while struggling with drops.

It wasn’t until last season that he turned a corner and started delivering on Detroit’s massive investment, but not without another bone-headed suspension for violating the league’s performance-enhancing substance policy.

Still, the Lions remained patient.

“I know this; we dangled the rope down on the way up,” Lions coach Dan Campbell said. “We can’t wait for anybody, and over a year ago he started climbing his way up and he got to us. And maybe he lost his grip, but he’ll climb back up again. That rope’s still there, it’s tied to us, and he’ll be just fine. He's part of this team and I trust him.”

Williams returned from the two-game ban and turned it on down the stretch, hauling in 41 balls for 640 and four scores across the final nine games of the 2024 campaign.

As noted, Williams has taken his game to another level this offseason. Under the watchful eye of position coach Scottie Montgomery, Williams has steadily added lower-body strength, which has enhanced his ability to stop as fast as he accelerates, expanding his route tree.

“He's in that mode of where he is ascending and he's taking the right steps, but he has to do it every single day,” Montgomery said. “He's very receptive.”

The Lions went through the tribulations with Williams. But he climbed the rope back to them and then some. Now, they’re in a position to enjoy the fruits of those efforts for years to come.

This is really fantastic news, both because Jamo stays and also because they potentially locked him up before his big breakout

Unless he breaks out like a Jamar Chase, Jefferson or Lamb type they paid him like he broke out. Almost 28 AAV is a top 15 wr.

You have consistently underestimated Jamo and Brad.

I haven't. I call Brad one of the best GM's in the league, just this week I called him and Campbell the best duo in the division, which is probably the strongest division in the NFL and in the second tier of front offices in the league.

I said Jamo was a bust after two years and he was, constant drops, suspensions etc. I also said he could change that and he did.

Just like Bobbie Layne and others you only see what you want to see and unless I say Jamo is better than Jefferson I hate him, I didn't say Brad is the best GM of all time so I underestimate him. You are wrong, as usual.

You compliments are always veiled with criticism. You can't just say, wow you look beautiful. What you generally say is, you are beautiful but your teeth are crooked. Instead of acknowledging greatness, the buts negates any compliment.

So you are mad that I don't compliment the team the way you like it? That is insane.

 

[msudaisy26]

There is a reason why guys like Hock, Swift, and Za'darius are not on the team... because they are not dawgs. There is a reason despite suspensions and injuries that MCDC/Brad stood behind and want Jamo....he is not only the best open field runner in all of football, he is a dawg who works hard and improves every day and gives 110 percent.

One of the knocks on him his first couple years was his work ethic and effort. Goff got into at practice. We all talked about it here.

 

[jon_mx]

---

Jameson Williams' efforts to improve, relatively reasonable price tag, result in unexpected extension from Lions​

Spoiler: Jamo got paid

Green Bay, Wisc. — It wasn’t the extension Detroit Lions fans expected this offseason, but they’ll gladly take it. Late Saturday night, ahead of the team’s season opener against the Green Bay Packers, the Lions reached a three-year agreement with Jameson Williams that could keep the speedy receiver in Honolulu blue through the 2029 season.

The move was particularly unexpected because Williams looked as if he might be the odd man out as Detroit navigates an increasingly complex salary cap situation, having handsomely paid Jared Goff, Penei Sewell, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Taylor Decker and David Montgomery last year, followed by Kerby Joseph in April. On top of those extensions, there's the upcoming need to lock up Aidan Hutchinson, Brian Branch, Sam LaPorta and Jahmyr Gibbs.

Most of those completed deals were top of the market for the player’s position, with Hutchinson potentially set to be the biggest contract for a non-quarterback in NFL history.

It’s why, at the league meetings this offseason, general manager Brad Holmes hinted that Williams could end up pricing himself out of Detroit’s range.

"We're still taking it as it goes," Holmes said. "Look, his fifth-year option, it's looking likely that we'll just pick that up, but in terms of extension, again, there's a lot of extensions that are hopefully coming. It's just one that you just don't know what's going to happen from a financial standpoint, because a wide receiver. It's expensive. It's very expensive.”

However, two things have happened since that spring conversation with the GM. The first and obvious, Williams forced the Lions to alter their priorities with a tremendous offseason that has him primed to take his production to another level after topping 1,000 yards for the first time in 2024.

“The big step he’s taken forward has been fun to watch,” quarterback Jared Goff said this week.

Secondly, that anticipated price tag that had cast clouds of doubt over his long-term future with the franchise ended up far more reasonable than initially envisioned.

It can be difficult to wrap your head around a $27.7 million salary being a bargain, but, relatively speaking, it absolutely is in this instance.

That’s because the three-year extension doesn’t kick in until 2027. So the Lions will benefit from already having Williams under contract this season and next, under the terms of his rookie deal. And while the average of the new money currently ranks 13th among receivers, by the time it kicks in, the cap will have likely continued to rapidly inflate, with several future pacts pushing Williams down the highest-paid list.

The average of Williams’ new money checks in just below some of the game’s highest-paid No. 2 receivers, Miami’s Jaylen Waddle and Cincinnati’s Tee Higgins, and just ahead of Philadelphia’s DeVonta Smith.

The deal rubber-stamps the faith the Lions have in Williams, who had a rocky start to his career, largely because of self-inflicted wounds.

Drafted in the first round of the 2022 draft, after the Lions traded up 20 spots to land him, Williams missed a good chunk of his rookie season recovering from the torn ACL he suffered in his final college game.

He caught just one of nine targets in six appearances down the stretch of that season, then was suspended for the first four games of the 2023 season — reduced from six — for naively violating the league’s gambling policy. Then, when he returned, he was underwhelming, catching just 24 passes for 354 in 12 games while struggling with drops.

It wasn’t until last season that he turned a corner and started delivering on Detroit’s massive investment, but not without another bone-headed suspension for violating the league’s performance-enhancing substance policy.

Still, the Lions remained patient.

“I know this; we dangled the rope down on the way up,” Lions coach Dan Campbell said. “We can’t wait for anybody, and over a year ago he started climbing his way up and he got to us. And maybe he lost his grip, but he’ll climb back up again. That rope’s still there, it’s tied to us, and he’ll be just fine. He's part of this team and I trust him.”

Williams returned from the two-game ban and turned it on down the stretch, hauling in 41 balls for 640 and four scores across the final nine games of the 2024 campaign.

As noted, Williams has taken his game to another level this offseason. Under the watchful eye of position coach Scottie Montgomery, Williams has steadily added lower-body strength, which has enhanced his ability to stop as fast as he accelerates, expanding his route tree.

“He's in that mode of where he is ascending and he's taking the right steps, but he has to do it every single day,” Montgomery said. “He's very receptive.”

The Lions went through the tribulations with Williams. But he climbed the rope back to them and then some. Now, they’re in a position to enjoy the fruits of those efforts for years to come.

This is really fantastic news, both because Jamo stays and also because they potentially locked him up before his big breakout

Unless he breaks out like a Jamar Chase, Jefferson or Lamb type they paid him like he broke out. Almost 28 AAV is a top 15 wr.

You have consistently underestimated Jamo and Brad.

I haven't. I call Brad one of the best GM's in the league, just this week I called him and Campbell the best duo in the division, which is probably the strongest division in the NFL and in the second tier of front offices in the league.

I said Jamo was a bust after two years and he was, constant drops, suspensions etc. I also said he could change that and he did.

Just like Bobbie Layne and others you only see what you want to see and unless I say Jamo is better than Jefferson I hate him, I didn't say Brad is the best GM of all time so I underestimate him. You are wrong, as usual.

You compliments are always veiled with criticism. You can't just say, wow you look beautiful. What you generally say is, you are beautiful but your teeth are crooked. Instead of acknowledging greatness, the buts negates any compliment.

So you are mad that I don't compliment the team the way you like it? That is insane.

No, I find it insane that you think you know everything that goes into these decisions than what Brad knows and somehow know better. Brad has far far far more insight than any of us and has plans laid out for long term success.

 

[Zeppelin]

One of the knocks on him his first couple years was his work ethic and effort. Goff got into at practice. We all talked about it here.

I may be wrong but I never heard anything negative about his work ethic and effort. If you have a link I'd like to see it.

 

[msudaisy26]

---

Jameson Williams' efforts to improve, relatively reasonable price tag, result in unexpected extension from Lions​

Spoiler: Jamo got paid

Green Bay, Wisc. — It wasn’t the extension Detroit Lions fans expected this offseason, but they’ll gladly take it. Late Saturday night, ahead of the team’s season opener against the Green Bay Packers, the Lions reached a three-year agreement with Jameson Williams that could keep the speedy receiver in Honolulu blue through the 2029 season.

The move was particularly unexpected because Williams looked as if he might be the odd man out as Detroit navigates an increasingly complex salary cap situation, having handsomely paid Jared Goff, Penei Sewell, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Taylor Decker and David Montgomery last year, followed by Kerby Joseph in April. On top of those extensions, there's the upcoming need to lock up Aidan Hutchinson, Brian Branch, Sam LaPorta and Jahmyr Gibbs.

Most of those completed deals were top of the market for the player’s position, with Hutchinson potentially set to be the biggest contract for a non-quarterback in NFL history.

It’s why, at the league meetings this offseason, general manager Brad Holmes hinted that Williams could end up pricing himself out of Detroit’s range.

"We're still taking it as it goes," Holmes said. "Look, his fifth-year option, it's looking likely that we'll just pick that up, but in terms of extension, again, there's a lot of extensions that are hopefully coming. It's just one that you just don't know what's going to happen from a financial standpoint, because a wide receiver. It's expensive. It's very expensive.”

However, two things have happened since that spring conversation with the GM. The first and obvious, Williams forced the Lions to alter their priorities with a tremendous offseason that has him primed to take his production to another level after topping 1,000 yards for the first time in 2024.

“The big step he’s taken forward has been fun to watch,” quarterback Jared Goff said this week.

Secondly, that anticipated price tag that had cast clouds of doubt over his long-term future with the franchise ended up far more reasonable than initially envisioned.

It can be difficult to wrap your head around a $27.7 million salary being a bargain, but, relatively speaking, it absolutely is in this instance.

That’s because the three-year extension doesn’t kick in until 2027. So the Lions will benefit from already having Williams under contract this season and next, under the terms of his rookie deal. And while the average of the new money currently ranks 13th among receivers, by the time it kicks in, the cap will have likely continued to rapidly inflate, with several future pacts pushing Williams down the highest-paid list.

The average of Williams’ new money checks in just below some of the game’s highest-paid No. 2 receivers, Miami’s Jaylen Waddle and Cincinnati’s Tee Higgins, and just ahead of Philadelphia’s DeVonta Smith.

The deal rubber-stamps the faith the Lions have in Williams, who had a rocky start to his career, largely because of self-inflicted wounds.

Drafted in the first round of the 2022 draft, after the Lions traded up 20 spots to land him, Williams missed a good chunk of his rookie season recovering from the torn ACL he suffered in his final college game.

He caught just one of nine targets in six appearances down the stretch of that season, then was suspended for the first four games of the 2023 season — reduced from six — for naively violating the league’s gambling policy. Then, when he returned, he was underwhelming, catching just 24 passes for 354 in 12 games while struggling with drops.

It wasn’t until last season that he turned a corner and started delivering on Detroit’s massive investment, but not without another bone-headed suspension for violating the league’s performance-enhancing substance policy.

Still, the Lions remained patient.

“I know this; we dangled the rope down on the way up,” Lions coach Dan Campbell said. “We can’t wait for anybody, and over a year ago he started climbing his way up and he got to us. And maybe he lost his grip, but he’ll climb back up again. That rope’s still there, it’s tied to us, and he’ll be just fine. He's part of this team and I trust him.”

Williams returned from the two-game ban and turned it on down the stretch, hauling in 41 balls for 640 and four scores across the final nine games of the 2024 campaign.

As noted, Williams has taken his game to another level this offseason. Under the watchful eye of position coach Scottie Montgomery, Williams has steadily added lower-body strength, which has enhanced his ability to stop as fast as he accelerates, expanding his route tree.

“He's in that mode of where he is ascending and he's taking the right steps, but he has to do it every single day,” Montgomery said. “He's very receptive.”

The Lions went through the tribulations with Williams. But he climbed the rope back to them and then some. Now, they’re in a position to enjoy the fruits of those efforts for years to come.

This is really fantastic news, both because Jamo stays and also because they potentially locked him up before his big breakout

Unless he breaks out like a Jamar Chase, Jefferson or Lamb type they paid him like he broke out. Almost 28 AAV is a top 15 wr.

You have consistently underestimated Jamo and Brad.

I haven't. I call Brad one of the best GM's in the league, just this week I called him and Campbell the best duo in the division, which is probably the strongest division in the NFL and in the second tier of front offices in the league.

I said Jamo was a bust after two years and he was, constant drops, suspensions etc. I also said he could change that and he did.

Just like Bobbie Layne and others you only see what you want to see and unless I say Jamo is better than Jefferson I hate him, I didn't say Brad is the best GM of all time so I underestimate him. You are wrong, as usual.

You compliments are always veiled with criticism. You can't just say, wow you look beautiful. What you generally say is, you are beautiful but your teeth are crooked. Instead of acknowledging greatness, the buts negates any compliment.

So you are mad that I don't compliment the team the way you like it? That is insane.

No, I find it insane that you think you know everything that goes into these decisions than what Brad knows and somehow know better. Brad has far far far more insight than any of us and has plans laid out for long term success.

The NFL does. There is a blueprint. My opinions are a copy of it.

 

[jon_mx]

There is a reason why guys like Hock, Swift, and Za'darius are not on the team... because they are not dawgs. There is a reason despite suspensions and injuries that MCDC/Brad stood behind and want Jamo....he is not only the best open field runner in all of football, he is a dawg who works hard and improves every day and gives 110 percent.

One of the knocks on him his first couple years was his work ethic and effort. Goff got into at practice. We all talked about it here.

Media makes a lot of fodder out of nothing. MCDC always stood behind Jamo's character.

 

[msudaisy26]

There is a reason why guys like Hock, Swift, and Za'darius are not on the team... because they are not dawgs. There is a reason despite suspensions and injuries that MCDC/Brad stood behind and want Jamo....he is not only the best open field runner in all of football, he is a dawg who works hard and improves every day and gives 110 percent.

One of the knocks on him his first couple years was his work ethic and effort. Goff got into at practice. We all talked about it here.

Media makes a lot of fodder out of nothing. MCDC always stood behind Jamo's character.

So when media says what I like great reporting, when they say something I don't like they are fodder and blow hands.

 

[jon_mx]

This team is winmig a Super Bowl this year. That is all I know.

 

[msudaisy26]

This team is winmig a Super Bowl this year. That is all I know.

I hope they do, I am rooting for it, but I don't see it. I still think they will be really good, but I think last years team was better and I think a lot of teams in the NFL got better.

 

[Zeppelin]

In before the panic attacks.

 

[msudaisy26]

In before the panic attacks.

There shouldn't be panic. There is a reason a lot people picked the Packers to win the division and the Lions to regress. You don't replace/move 60 percent of your line and lose both coordinators and expect to just roll through the league.

These guys do this for years and practice and study for hours. Big changes take time.

Edit. I didn't expect it to look this bad.

 

[kface]

In before the panic attacks.

There shouldn't be panic. There is a reason a lot people picked the Packers to win the division and the Lions to regress. You don't replace/move 60 percent of your line and lose both coordinators and expect to just roll through the league.

These guys do this for years and practice and study for hours. Big changes take time.

I think lots of people thought the packers would win, the concern would be no one thought they would be playing some backups in the 4th quarter for fun

 

[Mt. Man]

This is going to be one of those weeks they burn the tape and try not to look back.
Detroit O-line not looking good, pass rush rarely there, team as a whole not really clicking. Lots to fix before game 2. Season starts when Detroit gets a TD or a sack.

 

[msudaisy26]

In before the panic attacks.

There shouldn't be panic. There is a reason a lot people picked the Packers to win the division and the Lions to regress. You don't replace/move 60 percent of your line and lose both coordinators and expect to just roll through the league.

These guys do this for years and practice and study for hours. Big changes take time.

I think lots of people thought the packers would win, the concern would be no one thought they would be playing some backups in the 4th quarter for fun

That is fair, but bring it up in this thread and you are branded a hater or if anyone brought it up on a podcast, newspaper, television or radio show and you are hot take tool.

 

[Deamon]

This team is winmig a Super Bowl this year. That is all I know.

oh do you now.

 

[Zeppelin]

This team is winmig a Super Bowl this year. That is all I know.

oh do you now.

Regardless of whether you like them, nothing is decided in week one.

 

[msudaisy26]

I hate that they are keeping the starters in down 21 with two minutes left. The offensive line is already thin enough and getting Goff killed.

 

[msudaisy26]

This team is winmig a Super Bowl this year. That is all I know.

oh do you now.

Regardless of whether you like them, nothing is decided in week one.

This is true otherwise the Saints would be the defending Super Bowl champs after what they did week 1 and 2 last year with MVP Derek Carr.

 

[Deamon]

This team is winmig a Super Bowl this year. That is all I know.

oh do you now.

Regardless of whether you like them, nothing is decided in week one.

I think they'll be okay. It's the absolute "I Know they will win the super bowl this year"

Unless he posted that in all 32 team threads

 

[Zeppelin]

We'll see how the Lions respond to adversity next week. They moved the ball at times but never got in a rhythm. The running game was non-existent. The defense was good against the run but bad everywhere else. Hutch was invisible. Special teams were bad. Even Mr Jack Fox had a bad day. They looked out of sorts all game long. Plus the Packers played great. But the Lions were so bad I'm not sure they could have beaten any team today.

 

[kface]

I hate that they are keeping the starters in down 21 with two minutes left. The offensive line is already thin enough and getting Goff killed.

Gibbs limping

 

[Zeppelin]

In addition to the above, I really can't think of anything positive about today's game.

 

[msudaisy26]

I hate that they are keeping the starters in down 21 with two minutes left. The offensive line is already thin enough and getting Goff killed.

Gibbs limping

If they were down two scores go for it, anything can happen. Three scores is almost impossible and this isn’t a do or die game.

 

[kface]

I hate that they are keeping the starters in down 21 with two minutes left. The offensive line is already thin enough and getting Goff killed.

Gibbs limping

If they were down two scores go for it, anything can happen. Three scores is almost impossible and this isn’t a do or die game.

And with a minute left in a blowout you might have just got your stud hurt for no reason

 

[Zeppelin]

In addition to the above, I really can't think of anything positive about today's game.

TeSlaa's catch was the only highlight.

 

[BobbyLayne]

did we complete even one in breaking route today?

that was a super weird game plan

14 passes to RBs for 49 yards

11 targets to #1 & #14 for 8-68

only 1 explosive - schemed LaPorta wide open for 32 yards

next longest play was 19

run game never got going; Gibbs had a 14 yarder early, the entire rest of the game they were 21 ATT for 32 yards

that was not Lions football today

LBs looked good, especially Barnes & Campbell (although Jack whiffed on Jacobs longest run)

no pressure. at all.

IOL was good against the run, as was Davenport

no idea where Joseph was on that 48 yard duck to Doubs, that ball could have easily been picked off if they weren't out of position

aw well - on to Bears at home, that was some lousy football today

 

[Snotbubbles]

This team is winmig a Super Bowl this year. That is all I know.

oh do you now.

Regardless of whether you like them, nothing is decided in week one.

I think they'll be okay. It's the absolute "I Know they will win the super bowl this year"

Unless he posted that in all 32 team threads

Game is win and lost in the trenches. Detroit was bad in that area today. Maybe it was an anomaly in week 1. If it's not, they're in trouble.

 

[Payne]

I'm upset just like all of you, but I did try to warn you.
Losing both coordinators hurts.
The NFC teams got better. GB is no joke. And they added Parsons who had one more sack than the entire Lions roster which had zero.
I also think paying Jamo was a huge mistake. Would have preferred him riding out his contract and using that money on an edge. That is no secret.
I'm sure Brad could draft a cheap replacement over the next two drafts. Hell, he may already have with Teslaa.

I know some of you will say it's one week, but they looked worse than any of us imagined.
Going to be a tough year.

 

[Payne]

This team is winmig a Super Bowl this year. That is all I know.

oh do you now.

Regardless of whether you like them, nothing is decided in week one.

I think they'll be okay. It's the absolute "I Know they will win the super bowl this year"

Unless he posted that in all 32 team threads

Game is win and lost in the trenches. Detroit was bad in that area today. Maybe it was an anomaly in week 1. If it's not, they're in trouble.

They are in trouble.

 

[Da Guru]

If Tony Romo mentioned Parsons name again I was going to scream!

Parsons not in game, Parsons moved Goff off his spot, Parsons back on bench, Parsons being on the field helped middle rush, Parsons back on bench, Parsons back in. Romo had to say his name 50 times and was so dam excited when he got a garbage time sack.

Nothing really good to come away with in this game. Branch took a stupid penalty throwing the helmet. Hutch and Davenport were invisible. Play calling was suspect.

Bad break when Branch had the INT-TD called back. That would have made it a different game for sure.

Back to the drawing board.

 

[msudaisy26]

If Tony Romo mentioned Parsons name again I was going to scream!

Parsons not in game, Parsons moved Goff off his spot, Parsons back on bench, Parsons being on the field helped middle rush, Parsons back on bench, Parsons back in. Romo had to say his name 50 times and was so dam excited when he got a garbage time sack.

Nothing really good to come away with in this game. Branch took a stupid penalty throwing the helmet. Hutch and Davenport were invisible. Play calling was suspect.

Bad break when Branch had the INT-TD called back. That would have made it a different game for sure.

Back to the drawing board.

Even if there wasn't the hold to negate the INT Hutchinson went off on Love and it gets called back. He should know better.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Rapid Rewind: Packers make statement, throttling Lions in season opener​

Spoiler: the goal is to play best at the end of the year

Green Bay, Wisc. — Whether it was the Green Bay Packers’ addition of Micah Parsons, the Detroit Lions struggling to adapt to new coordinators or its reconfigured offensive line, or a combination of all those factors, the Packers looked every bit the division favorite in Sunday's season opener, plowing through the two-time defending NFC North champion Lions at Lambeau Field, 27-13.

The Packers set the tone early, driving 83 yards for a touchdown on the game’s opening possession, converting a trio of third downs during the march. By halftime, they had extended their lead to two touchdowns, thanks to a quick-strike, two-play drive that ate up 65 yards in just 53 seconds.

Detroit, which has been among the league leaders in red-zone conversions the past three seasons, couldn’t find the end zone with its first three trips inside the 20, settling for two field goals and turning it over on an interception in the closing minutes of the first half.

The Lions finally worked across the goal line in the game’s closing minute when rookie Isaac TeSlaa hauled in a remarkable one-handed grab on fourth down for a 13-yard touchdown.

The loss snaps the Lions’ three-game winning streak in Green Bay.

Game ball​

No Lions player deserved a game ball. We're forced to give it to Packers quarterback Jordan Love, who completed 16-of-22 for 188 yards, two touchdowns and no interceptions.

Scoring summary​

First quarter

● 9:26 — Taking the opening kickoff, the Packers drove 83 yards on 12 plays. The home team converted on all three of its third-down plays, including a 15-yard touchdown pass from Love to Tucker Kraft on third-and-9. Running a post pattern, the tight end beat the coverage of linebacker Jack Campbell. PACKERS 7, LIONS 0

● 3:58 — Taking over near midfield after a Lions punt, the Packers worked into field goal range with a 26-yard, third-down pass to Jayden Reed. Facing third-and-3 in the red zone, Love took an end-zone shot to Romeo Doubs. However, tight coverage by Terrion Arnold forced the incompletion, leaving the Packers to take a short Brandon McManus field goal to extend their early lead. PACKERS 10, LIONS 0

Second quarter

● 9:27 — A methodical 16-play drive for Detroit stalls in the red zone when Jared Goff can’t find an open receiver. Instead of going for it on fourth-and-5 from the Packers’ 12-yard line, the Lions take the three, a 30-yarder for Jake Bates, to get on the board. PACKERS 10, LIONS 3

● 8:34 — A two-play response for the Packers. Arnold was victimized in coverage on both, giving up a 48-yard bomb to Romeo Dobbs before the second-year cornerback got picked on a rub route, generating separation for Reed on a wheel route from the slot, resulting in a 17-yard touchdown. PACKERS 17, LIONS 3

Third quarter

● 9:40 — A third trip into the red zone again ends without a touchdown for the Lions. Sam LaPorta came up with two grabs for 48 yards. However, with first-and-goal from the 10, the Lions went backward and settled for a Bates field goal to only put a dent in Green Bay’s lead. PACKERS 17, LIONS 6

Fourth quarter

● 7:57 — Benefitting from another short field, the Packers drove 36 yards on eight plays with running back Josh Jacobs doing most of the damage, gaining 28 yards and scoring from 3 yards out. PACKERS 24, LIONS 6

● 4:22 — Taking over in Lions’ territory after a turnover on downs, the Packers didn’t net a first down but still came away with points on a 38-yard McManus field goal. PACKERS 27, LIONS 6

● 0:55 — With the game effectively out of reach, the Lions drove 65 yards in 13 plays, finally scoring a touchdown on a pretty one-handed grab by TeSlaa. The catch was initially ruled out of bounds, but overturned by replay review. PACKERS 27, LIONS 13

Turnovers​

● Late in the first half, on a third-down snap in the red zone, Packers safety Evan Williams jumped a route intended for Amon-Ra St. Brown, making a diving interception to end Detroit’s scoring threat.

Key stats​

● Unable to work the ball downfield all afternoon, Goff completed 31-of-39 for just 224 yards, one touchdown and an interception.

● Detroit’s vaunted ground game couldn’t get on track on Sunday. David Montgomery and Jahmyr Gibbs combined for a paltry 44 yards on 20 carries (2.2 YPC).

● Gibbs paced Detroit with 10 receptions, but only gained 31 yards on the grabs. LaPorta’s six grabs generated a team-high 79 yards.

● Campbell led the Lions with nine tackles. The defense struggled to pressure Love all game and finished without a sack. Arnold recorded the team’s only pass defense.

Notable​

● One play after Alex Anzalone dropped an interception in the third quarter, safety Brian Branch had a pick-six wiped out by a holding penalty committed by teammate Rock Ya-Sin. Aidan Hutchinson was also flagged for unnecessary roughness on the return.

Injuries​

● Arnold suffered a groin injury late in the first half and was ruled out before the start of the fourth quarter.

Inactives​

Running back Sione Vaki (hamstring), linebacker Trevor Nowaske (elbow), safety Thomas Harper, defensive tackle Chris Smith, defensive end Tyrus Wheat and defensive tackle Mekhi Wingo.

Next game​

The Lions stay in the division, hosting former offensive coordinator Ben Johnson and the Chicago Bears at Ford Field next Sunday at 1 p.m.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Campbell said it is all correctable. Grind the tape, clean it up, do better next week. Critical errors at the worst possible time were the difference.

Nothing definitive on TA, tweaked a groin in the first and tried playing through it. Was bothering him at halftime so they shut him down.

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Goff completed 79.5% today but only 4/10 with an INT in the RedZone (and 3 of those were check downs to RBs.) 27/29 outside the RedZone but the vertical game was nonexistent.

#16 said there needs to be a sense of urgency to improve this week. Gave GB credit, they’re a good defense, but there was nothing new oh there. Same cover 3 we always face when we play them. It’s the kind of D you can beat just by staying patient and taking what they give you. But if you’re not scoring on long explosive you can’t go into the RedZone 3 times and come away with 2 FGs.

“That was nowhere near the standard. We’ll get it straightened out but it was our lack of execution as much or more than it was what GB was doing. I have to play better.”

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

Lots of conflicting thoughts after that game ...

On the one hand, with all the losses last year (and really, every loss going back to the Ravens game in '23), I never felt like they lost to a better team. That was clearly not the case today. Packers straight up spanked them.

On the other hand, you never want to overreact to Week 1, and while I didn't exactly predict this -- I picked the Lions in my confidence pool this week because I genuinely thought they could win -- I do remember thinking that there was a good chance they would get off to a slow start this year as they digested all the turnover.

On the third hand, what if the takeaway from today's game is not that the Lions suddenly stink, but that the Packers have made the leap, and that the previously "youngest roster in the league" is now entering its prime?

Anyway, not drawing any firm conclusions, just some things I'm keeping an eye on. One thing I do feel confident about is that Campbell will use this loss to motivate his players to clean this s### up

ETA: One more point: Yes, I'm sure it won't remain this bad, but man, that clogged toilet offense was depressing to watch. Gibbs had 10 catches for 30 yards? Seriously, what the eff

 

[swabs]

This team is winmig a Super Bowl this year. That is all I know.

oh do you now.

Regardless of whether you like them, nothing is decided in week one.

I think they'll be okay. It's the absolute "I Know they will win the super bowl this year"

Unless he posted that in all 32 team threads

Game is win and lost in the trenches. Detroit was bad in that area today. Maybe it was an anomaly in week 1. If it's not, they're in trouble.

They are in trouble.

It's the o-lines first real snaps together. Calm down. Also, it can't get any worse......

 

[Deamon]

I think they'll be okay. But those who called for an obvious offensive regression might be right.

I think they turn the offense around, but do think GB has the edge on the division now. Could see this as an 11-6 wild card team.