2025 Dynasty superflex Rookie Tier poll #2 (1 Viewer)

[miqws]

THE Ohio State RBs are neck and neck in superflex composite rankings. Who tops your board? I went with Henderson, especially PPR.

 

[Crippler]

I vote Judkins but want to also grab Sampson. I think more bell cow than Henderson

 

[Boston]

I vote Judkins but want to also grab Sampson. I think more bell cow than Henderson

This kind of doesn’t make sense…if you think he is a potential bell cow why do you need to grab Sampson?

 

[Big Nate]

I vote Judkins but want to also grab Sampson. I think more bell cow than Henderson

This kind of doesn’t make sense…if you think he is a potential bell cow why do you need to grab Sampson?

I always try to handcuff my RBs (where possible) and Sampson looks to be a good potential back-up. Lots of upside for Sampson as well and he won't break the bank to acquire.

 

[Boston]

I vote Judkins but want to also grab Sampson. I think more bell cow than Henderson

This kind of doesn’t make sense…if you think he is a potential bell cow why do you need to grab Sampson?

I always try to handcuff my RBs (where possible) and Sampson looks to be a good potential back-up. Lots of upside for Sampson as well and he won't break the bank to acquire.

I don’t disagree with that strategy it just seems a little odd to pick Judson over Henderson because you think he is a bell cow but also say you should grab Sampson.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

I like Henderson, but I'm also liking the fact that someone will make the call for me and I can scoop whichever one is left at the 1.5 (most likely Judkins).

While I have both of these guys above Kaleb Johnson and Harvey, I do believe they all should have been included in the poll, and consider all of them more of less in the same tier of RB options. With that said, I won't argue with you if you believe the OSU backs are a sub-tier above.

As much as Judkins gets knocked down for the Sampson selection, it really seems like people have very little concern for Stevenson or even Gibson as a #3 nuisance. Stevenson is locked on through 2026 and capable (and compensated) enough that he'll have a role. If 2025 plays out according to Clay's projections, and Henderson-Stevenson is an even fantasy split while Judkins establishes himself as a clear #1, are we still taking Henderson over Judkins for the long haul? FWIW, I don't love Clay's reception projection only favoring Henderson by a 35-31 margin over Stevenson. Likewise, 40 receptions to Judkins while Sampson only sees 320 total yards seems a bit rosy for Judkins outlook.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

I vote Judkins but want to also grab Sampson. I think more bell cow than Henderson

This kind of doesn’t make sense…if you think he is a potential bell cow why do you need to grab Sampson?

I always try to handcuff my RBs (where possible) and Sampson looks to be a good potential back-up. Lots of upside for Sampson as well and he won't break the bank to acquire.

I don’t disagree with that strategy it just seems a little odd to pick Judson over Henderson because you think he is a bell cow but also say you should grab Sampson.

Makes sense to me. You can like Judkins to take a clear #1 role, while also acknowledging it's a violent game and there's a lot to like about Sampson's ceiling in the event that the #1 goes down.

Not as much fun to dream about when you're holding that #1, but if your roster already has another capable starter it's a fine hedge on your Judkins investment. In a way, it's kind of an advantage for buying on Judkins. You can get his handcuff later in the draft, assuming you believe in Sampson to outshine Ford. Can't draft the cuffs of Jeanty, Hampton, Henderson, Johnson, Harvey. Can get Judkins' cuff at the opportunity cost of targeting a different backfield.

 

[SHH]

I don't think you get cute here, gotta take Henderson. If you want Judkins or don't like Henderson, trade back - out. If you view them equal enough, then ANYTHING you get to trade back is a net positive if your internal valuation of them is equal.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

I don't think you get cute here, gotta take Henderson. If you want Judkins or don't like Henderson, trade back - out. If you view them equal enough, then ANYTHING you get to trade back is a net positive if your internal valuation of them is equal.

Even though I played devi's advocate to Henderson above, I tend to agree. If I see a mini-tier break anywhere, it's probably between Henderson and Judkins (and then Harvey and Kaleb Johnson in a conversation with Judkins). If Hunter and McMillan are WR possibilities in that next tier, there's that much more opportunity to move down and get a nice piece.

I recently traded up from the 1.3 to the 1.1 in 1QB and Henderson was the one player that made it the most bittersweet. Even more than buying into an uphill climb on Hunter where he doesn't get defensive points. That says something for Henderson. I do think Stevenson is a legitimate problem for his ceiling in '25 & '26. Probably a good real-life duo for the Patriots if there are durability or volume concerns for Henderson's smaller frame.

 

[Big Nate]

FWIW - Henderson and Judkins went back to back in that order in our SF Rookie draft. It is literally neck and neck. I like both guys and both could be great long term.

By no means is Henderson a lock over Judkins when you factor in team and landing spot/offense. It is very close IMO. Henderson, if he gets passing down work is great in PPR for sure. But like was mentioned above Stevenson could still be the lead back here.

How will CLE use Judkins? What if they decide to run the ball a ton this year he could have a very safe floor game in and game out. Will be interesting to watch these 2 over the course of the season. Different RBs in very different situations.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

FWIW - Henderson and Judkins went back to back in that order in our SF Rookie draft. It is literally neck and neck. I like both guys and both could be great long term.

By no means is Henderson a lock over Judkins when you factor in team and landing spot/offense. It is very close IMO. Henderson, if he gets passing down work is great in PPR for sure. But like was mentioned above Stevenson could still be the lead back here.

How will CLE use Judkins? What if they decide to run the ball a ton this year he could have a very safe floor game in and game out. Will be interesting to watch these 2 over the course of the season. Different RBs in very different situations.

You make a really good point. While I personally see these two as very close in a 1/2 PPR, with a slight lean towards Henderson, I can see where someone playing full PPR is seeing it as clearly Henderson. Hard to believe he won't be very proficient in the passing game with the reputation he already has for pass protection.

While the poll is a runaway, it could be that many of the 22 votes for Henderson also see it as very close. Henderson is the sexy pick with visions of gamebreaks taking a long one in for a 14 point fantasy play. On the other side, I've been around this hobby long enough not to sleep on the value of 220-lb thumpers that can handle heavy workloads, goalline opportunities, while also having enough in their arsenal to get their share of receptions. See James Conner.

 

[Gatorade]

FWIW - Henderson and Judkins went back to back in that order in our SF Rookie draft. It is literally neck and neck. I like both guys and both could be great long term.

By no means is Henderson a lock over Judkins when you factor in team and landing spot/offense. It is very close IMO. Henderson, if he gets passing down work is great in PPR for sure. But like was mentioned above Stevenson could still be the lead back here.

How will CLE use Judkins? What if they decide to run the ball a ton this year he could have a very safe floor game in and game out. Will be interesting to watch these 2 over the course of the season. Different RBs in very different situations.

You make a really good point. While I personally see these two as very close in a 1/2 PPR, with a slight lean towards Henderson, I can see where someone playing full PPR is seeing it as clearly Henderson. Hard to believe he won't be very proficient in the passing game with the reputation he already has for pass protection.

While the poll is a runaway, it could be that many of the 22 votes for Henderson also see it as very close. Henderson is the sexy pick with visions of gamebreaks taking a long one in for a 14 point fantasy play. On the other side, I've been around this hobby long enough not to sleep on the value of 220-lb thumpers that can handle heavy workloads, goalline opportunities, while also having enough in their arsenal to get their share of receptions. See James Conner.

It is amazing how many mocks I see them going back to back. Sitting at 1.7, I just hope one of them falls to me.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

FWIW - Henderson and Judkins went back to back in that order in our SF Rookie draft. It is literally neck and neck. I like both guys and both could be great long term.

By no means is Henderson a lock over Judkins when you factor in team and landing spot/offense. It is very close IMO. Henderson, if he gets passing down work is great in PPR for sure. But like was mentioned above Stevenson could still be the lead back here.

How will CLE use Judkins? What if they decide to run the ball a ton this year he could have a very safe floor game in and game out. Will be interesting to watch these 2 over the course of the season. Different RBs in very different situations.

You make a really good point. While I personally see these two as very close in a 1/2 PPR, with a slight lean towards Henderson, I can see where someone playing full PPR is seeing it as clearly Henderson. Hard to believe he won't be very proficient in the passing game with the reputation he already has for pass protection.

While the poll is a runaway, it could be that many of the 22 votes for Henderson also see it as very close. Henderson is the sexy pick with visions of gamebreaks taking a long one in for a 14 point fantasy play. On the other side, I've been around this hobby long enough not to sleep on the value of 220-lb thumpers that can handle heavy workloads, goalline opportunities, while also having enough in their arsenal to get their share of receptions. See James Conner.

It is amazing how many mocks I see them going back to back. Sitting at 1.7, I just hope one of them falls to me.

If it doesn't happen, I'm sure Harvey, Johnson, or one of the WRs will give you plenty to like as a consolation prize. Good spot to be imo. I've been giving a lot of thought to putting together some offers to try to move up to the 1.7 or 1.8 from 1.12.

 

[Lansdowne]

FWIW - Henderson and Judkins went back to back in that order in our SF Rookie draft. It is literally neck and neck. I like both guys and both could be great long term.

By no means is Henderson a lock over Judkins when you factor in team and landing spot/offense. It is very close IMO. Henderson, if he gets passing down work is great in PPR for sure. But like was mentioned above Stevenson could still be the lead back here.

How will CLE use Judkins? What if they decide to run the ball a ton this year he could have a very safe floor game in and game out. Will be interesting to watch these 2 over the course of the season. Different RBs in very different situations.

I love, love, love Henderson but I'm also pumping the brakes a little bit myself. The Patriots OL has improved this offseason but I still don't suspect they'll open up holes the way Ohio State's OL did. Stevenson is still the best between-the-tackles RB on the team and has good explosiveness for a RB his size. Ball security is his issue. But I think if he can get back to 2023 level in that regard (1 fumble, 0 lost) he'll have a large role, possibly as the lead. There's a decent chance Henderson outplays him and takes the RB1 spot during the season but it's not a slam dunk. If Stevenson is playing well, he'll continue to lead IMO. Stevenson represents a good buy low opportunity as a bench option in fantasy. Of course there's always that risk that he fumbles in Week 1 and doesn't see the field again for a month or so (like what Payton did to Estime). I still prefer Henderson to Judkins but I recognize the appeal of Judkins as someone with more of a bellcow profile.

 

[miqws]

I like Henderson, but I'm also liking the fact that someone will make the call for me and I can scoop whichever one is left at the 1.5 (most likely Judkins).

While I have both of these guys above Kaleb Johnson and Harvey, I do believe they all should have been included in the poll, and consider all of them more of less in the same tier of RB options. With that said, I won't argue with you f you believe the OSU backs are a sub-tier above.

As much as Judkins gets knocked down for the Sampson selection, it really seems like people have very little concern for Stevenson or even Gibson as a #3 nuisance. Stevenson is locked on through 2026 and capable (and compensated) enough that he'll have a role. If 2025 plays out according to Clay's projections, and Henderson-Stevenson is an even fantasy split while Judkins establishes himself as a clear #1, are we still taking Henderson over Judkins for the long haul? FWIW, I don't love Clay's reception projection only favoring Henderson by a 35-31 margin over Stevenson. Likewise, 40 receptions to Judkins while Sampson only sees 320 total yards seems a bit rosy for Judkins outlook.

The tiers are how the rankings unfolded - these guys are 2.5 separated from the next player which surprised me. I try to select independent sources but group think is always a possibility. Might be an opportunity to trade down with the other RBs as an option. Having more dart throws may be the best way to get a bullseye with this draft class.