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2025 Philadelphia Eagles - Silver lining: Last unbeaten team standing hasn't won the Super Bowl since 2006. Good luck with that jinx, Buffalo! (27 Viewers)

We’re starting our 25th league year this year and as a way to celebrate we decided to travel to a game. Ended up landing on next week’s KC game. Flying out Saturday and there until Monday. Can’t wait, I’ve heard nothing but great things about KC fans/tailgating experience from other Birds fans that have gone in the past.

@ChiefD any good BBQ recommendations?
I went years ago so take it for what it's worth- KC fans are IMHO one of the best fan bases when visitors are in their midst. I was treated to really mild ribbing and good natured back and forth was had. They were kind enough to provide what I consider one of the best if not the best bbq ever and a few beers. If your'e not an *** and can take the teasing they will let you enjoy the game as they do. As far as bbq places go ...Lc's or Joes is high on my list. Been back a few times just not at a game. Bryants is a can't miss though @ChiefD.

Charger fan jfyi.
I've heard they're friendly to opposing fans. Might be a little different given the recency of the Super Bowl though. And I'm assuming you went when the Chargers weren't very good and KC was very good.
No not really. But yeah kind of. Natron Means et all...lol. We did get stomped tho'. In pouring rain non the less. IIRC, there was water running down the stadium steps? Never went back to a game there though I would jump at the chance if it provided itself.
I'm assuming it was this game?
 
We’re starting our 25th league year this year and as a way to celebrate we decided to travel to a game. Ended up landing on next week’s KC game. Flying out Saturday and there until Monday. Can’t wait, I’ve heard nothing but great things about KC fans/tailgating experience from other Birds fans that have gone in the past.

@ChiefD any good BBQ recommendations?
I went years ago so take it for what it's worth- KC fans are IMHO one of the best fan bases when visitors are in their midst. I was treated to really mild ribbing and good natured back and forth was had. They were kind enough to provide what I consider one of the best if not the best bbq ever and a few beers. If your'e not an *** and can take the teasing they will let you enjoy the game as they do. As far as bbq places go ...Lc's or Joes is high on my list. Been back a few times just not at a game. Bryants is a can't miss though @ChiefD.

Charger fan jfyi.
I've heard they're friendly to opposing fans. Might be a little different given the recency of the Super Bowl though. And I'm assuming you went when the Chargers weren't very good and KC was very good.
No not really. But yeah kind of. Natron Means et all...lol. We did get stomped tho'. In pouring rain non the less. IIRC, there was water running down the stadium steps? Never went back to a game there though I would jump at the chance if it provided itself.
Natrone Means mention!! So was this the Chargers SB Year?
 
We’re starting our 25th league year this year and as a way to celebrate we decided to travel to a game. Ended up landing on next week’s KC game. Flying out Saturday and there until Monday. Can’t wait, I’ve heard nothing but great things about KC fans/tailgating experience from other Birds fans that have gone in the past.

@ChiefD any good BBQ recommendations?
I went years ago so take it for what it's worth- KC fans are IMHO one of the best fan bases when visitors are in their midst. I was treated to really mild ribbing and good natured back and forth was had. They were kind enough to provide what I consider one of the best if not the best bbq ever and a few beers. If your'e not an *** and can take the teasing they will let you enjoy the game as they do. As far as bbq places go ...Lc's or Joes is high on my list. Been back a few times just not at a game. Bryants is a can't miss though @ChiefD.

Charger fan jfyi.
I've heard they're friendly to opposing fans. Might be a little different given the recency of the Super Bowl though. And I'm assuming you went when the Chargers weren't very good and KC was very good.
No not really. But yeah kind of. Natron Means et all...lol. We did get stomped tho'. In pouring rain non the less. IIRC, there was water running down the stadium steps? Never went back to a game there though I would jump at the chance if it provided itself.
Natrone Means mention!! So was this the Chargers SB Year?
Natrone Means Business.

I miss when Berman was awesome.
 
We’re starting our 25th league year this year and as a way to celebrate we decided to travel to a game. Ended up landing on next week’s KC game. Flying out Saturday and there until Monday. Can’t wait, I’ve heard nothing but great things about KC fans/tailgating experience from other Birds fans that have gone in the past.

@ChiefD any good BBQ recommendations?
I went years ago so take it for what it's worth- KC fans are IMHO one of the best fan bases when visitors are in their midst. I was treated to really mild ribbing and good natured back and forth was had. They were kind enough to provide what I consider one of the best if not the best bbq ever and a few beers. If your'e not an *** and can take the teasing they will let you enjoy the game as they do. As far as bbq places go ...Lc's or Joes is high on my list. Been back a few times just not at a game. Bryants is a can't miss though @ChiefD.

Charger fan jfyi.
I've heard they're friendly to opposing fans. Might be a little different given the recency of the Super Bowl though. And I'm assuming you went when the Chargers weren't very good and KC was very good.
No not really. But yeah kind of. Natron Means et all...lol. We did get stomped tho'. In pouring rain non the less. IIRC, there was water running down the stadium steps? Never went back to a game there though I would jump at the chance if it provided itself.
Natrone Means mention!! So was this the Chargers SB Year?
so fuzzy..No. It was the first year of Ryan Leaf I think. I even wore the f'in jersey...:poop:
 
We’re starting our 25th league year this year and as a way to celebrate we decided to travel to a game. Ended up landing on next week’s KC game. Flying out Saturday and there until Monday. Can’t wait, I’ve heard nothing but great things about KC fans/tailgating experience from other Birds fans that have gone in the past.

@ChiefD any good BBQ recommendations?
I went years ago so take it for what it's worth- KC fans are IMHO one of the best fan bases when visitors are in their midst. I was treated to really mild ribbing and good natured back and forth was had. They were kind enough to provide what I consider one of the best if not the best bbq ever and a few beers. If your'e not an *** and can take the teasing they will let you enjoy the game as they do. As far as bbq places go ...Lc's or Joes is high on my list. Been back a few times just not at a game. Bryants is a can't miss though @ChiefD.

Charger fan jfyi.
I've heard they're friendly to opposing fans. Might be a little different given the recency of the Super Bowl though. And I'm assuming you went when the Chargers weren't very good and KC was very good.
No not really. But yeah kind of. Natron Means et all...lol. We did get stomped tho'. In pouring rain non the less. IIRC, there was water running down the stadium steps? Never went back to a game there though I would jump at the chance if it provided itself.
I'm assuming it was this game?
uh no I wish
 
found it! 1998.
  • Offensive Struggles: Chargers quarterback Ryan Leaf had a historically bad performance, completing just 1 of 15 passes for four yards and committing five turnovers.
  • Means's Performance: Despite his team's struggles, Means was a standout player, rushing for 160 yards, a career-best at the time.
  • A "Lone Bright Spot": Means's third-quarter touchdown was the only touchdown the Chargers scored. Their only other points came from a field goal, making his long run the most significant offensive play of the day.
 
We’re starting our 25th league year this year and as a way to celebrate we decided to travel to a game. Ended up landing on next week’s KC game. Flying out Saturday and there until Monday. Can’t wait, I’ve heard nothing but great things about KC fans/tailgating experience from other Birds fans that have gone in the past.

@ChiefD any good BBQ recommendations?
I went years ago so take it for what it's worth- KC fans are IMHO one of the best fan bases when visitors are in their midst. I was treated to really mild ribbing and good natured back and forth was had. They were kind enough to provide what I consider one of the best if not the best bbq ever and a few beers. If your'e not an *** and can take the teasing they will let you enjoy the game as they do. As far as bbq places go ...Lc's or Joes is high on my list. Been back a few times just not at a game. Bryants is a can't miss though @ChiefD.

Charger fan jfyi.
I've heard they're friendly to opposing fans. Might be a little different given the recency of the Super Bowl though. And I'm assuming you went when the Chargers weren't very good and KC was very good.
No not really. But yeah kind of. Natron Means et all...lol. We did get stomped tho'. In pouring rain non the less. IIRC, there was water running down the stadium steps? Never went back to a game there though I would jump at the chance if it provided itself.
Natrone Means mention!! So was this the Chargers SB Year?
so fuzzy..No. It was the first year of Ryan Leaf I think. I even wore the f'in jersey...:poop:
Found it. Definitely was this game! Pouring rain, Means had a huge game, and Ryan Leafs first year. Damn, he went 1/15 and passed for 4 total yards lol

You can relive the memory and watch the whole game here if you want
 
We’re starting our 25th league year this year and as a way to celebrate we decided to travel to a game. Ended up landing on next week’s KC game. Flying out Saturday and there until Monday. Can’t wait, I’ve heard nothing but great things about KC fans/tailgating experience from other Birds fans that have gone in the past.

@ChiefD any good BBQ recommendations?
I went years ago so take it for what it's worth- KC fans are IMHO one of the best fan bases when visitors are in their midst. I was treated to really mild ribbing and good natured back and forth was had. They were kind enough to provide what I consider one of the best if not the best bbq ever and a few beers. If your'e not an *** and can take the teasing they will let you enjoy the game as they do. As far as bbq places go ...Lc's or Joes is high on my list. Been back a few times just not at a game. Bryants is a can't miss though @ChiefD.

Charger fan jfyi.
I've heard they're friendly to opposing fans. Might be a little different given the recency of the Super Bowl though. And I'm assuming you went when the Chargers weren't very good and KC was very good.
No not really. But yeah kind of. Natron Means et all...lol. We did get stomped tho'. In pouring rain non the less. IIRC, there was water running down the stadium steps? Never went back to a game there though I would jump at the chance if it provided itself.
Natrone Means mention!! So was this the Chargers SB Year?
so fuzzy..No. It was the first year of Ryan Leaf I think. I even wore the f'in jersey...:poop:
Found it. Definitely was this game! Pouring rain, Means had a huge game, and Ryan Leafs first game. Damn, he went 1/15 and passed for 4 total yards lol

You can relive the memory and watch the whole game here if you want
yep
 
Haven't heard it talked about, but wondering what happens to all the FB packages and plays with Ben VanSumeren out. They probably spent a lot of time in the off-season and in camp working on that, but it may have all been too specific to his skillset. They don't really have someone else on the roster to plug into that role (someone will obviously step-in for his ST role), so most of it probably gets scrapped.
 
Not much talk of how Jordan Davis played Thursday night. Currently graded as the 13th best IL in the league with a 71.2 grade, 5th most snaps played, with 3 pressures also which is 6/63 IL
 
Per zagaro our old Buddy Quez was in town

The Eagles had a busy day of tryouts on Monday:

LB Jamin Davis
DE Isaiah Foskey
G LaDarius Henderson
CB Mike Hilton
WR K.J. Osborn
OT Kadeem Telford
WR Quez Watkins

Out of these guys Osborn, Davis (former 1st rounder for Washington from UK from HI), And Foskey
 
Haven't heard it talked about, but wondering what happens to all the FB packages and plays with Ben VanSumeren out. They probably spent a lot of time in the off-season and in camp working on that, but it may have all been too specific to his skillset. They don't really have someone else on the roster to plug into that role (someone will obviously step-in for his ST role), so most of it probably gets scrapped.
Yep, that opening kickoff hurt us in so many ways.
 
Haven't heard it talked about, but wondering what happens to all the FB packages and plays with Ben VanSumeren out. They probably spent a lot of time in the off-season and in camp working on that, but it may have all been too specific to his skillset. They don't really have someone else on the roster to plug into that role (someone will obviously step-in for his ST role), so most of it probably gets scrapped.
Yep, that opening kickoff hurt us in so many ways.

Found this in Zach Berman's game notes:

Ben VanSumeren’s season-ending injury puts the Eagles’ plans at fullback in flux. I was among those skeptical that it would be a notable part of the offense. The injury occurred on the opening kickoff, so we’ll never get to see how it would have been used with VanSumeren. The Eagles moved to third-string tight end Kylen Granson to that role on Thursday, and it was enough to intrigue. He lined up in the backfield on six plays — the most of his career. If VanSumeren took six fullback snaps most weeks, I’d admit I was wrong about how I thought the Eagles would use the position. The question now is whether the Eagles will seek a fullback to replace VanSumeren or make that Granson’s role on the team this season. After VanSumeren’s knee injury last season, the Eagles signed Khari Blasingame. He was used sparingly on offense. The contributions mainly came on special teams.
 
Per Scheftar (wow)

Trade: Jaguars are sending RB Tank Bigsby to the Philadelphia Eagles in exchange for 2026 fifth- and sixth-round picks, per sources.
Shipley’s injury must be significant
Yeah this is it right there, Shipley played just 5 snaps, got a rib injury now we trade for Tank.

Good news is they seem serious about getting Saquon *not* 482 touches again this season and plan to play more of a less of a split.

Howie never sleeps
 
“Will Shipley, the Eagles' top backup RB, exited Thursday's game with a ribs injury.

Bigsby gives the Eagles quality young depth — he also averaged 32.5 yards on 6 kickoff returns last season.

He's under contract through 2026 with a cap number of $1.7M next season. Shipley will count $1.25M against the cap next season. The Eagles could have those two on the 2026 roster for under $3M against the cap.”
 
“Will Shipley, the Eagles' top backup RB, exited Thursday's game with a ribs injury.

Bigsby gives the Eagles quality young depth — he also averaged 32.5 yards on 6 kickoff returns last season.

He's under contract through 2026 with a cap number of $1.7M next season. Shipley will count $1.25M against the cap next season. The Eagles could have those two on the 2026 roster for under $3M against the cap.”
Howie ❤️
 
Bryce Huff’s stat line yesterday:

Picking up right where he left off.

Interestingly, the 5th we just sent to JAX is the one we got from SF for Huff. That pick can become a 4th if Huff meets (still unknown) performance milestones and the Jags will now get that benefit.

But, after seeing his play yesterday the Eagles must not be worried he’ll hit them.
 
Bryce Huff’s stat line yesterday:

Picking up right where he left off.

Interestingly, the 5th we just sent to JAX is the one we got from SF for Huff. That pick can become a 4th if Huff meets (still unknown) performance milestones and the Jags will now get that benefit.

But, after seeing his play yesterday the Eagles must not be worried he’ll hit them.
I believe he has to get 8 sacks for it to be a 4
 
Seems like they view the new kickoff return as a "running play" where a shifty but sizable back is needed, so you can't just plug Covey or Dillon in there. Tank has NFL return experience and having their #2 RB who they planned to use to give Saquon less touches get banged up doing kick returns spooked them so they made a minor draft capital investment to try and fix that.
 
I still don't see why teams are so reluctant to part with their 5th or 6th round picks to get an established player in the NFL. Most 5th and 6th round guys only stick because of special teams. It's hard to find premium position guys that late and non-premium guys that late usually don't make the team. This really isn't that much of a hit to their draft capital. They've also got a bunch of it as was pointed out upthread.

Your GM isn't confusing at all. He's got a plan. He's going for back-to-back titles and doing what great teams do: he's filling in needs when the core is excellent so that there are no real glaring weaknesses.
 
I still don't see why teams are so reluctant to part with their 5th or 6th round picks to get an established player in the NFL. Most 5th and 6th round guys only stick because of special teams. It's hard to find premium position guys that late and non-premium guys that late usually don't make the team. This really isn't that much of a hit to their draft capital. They've also got a bunch of it as was pointed out upthread.

Your GM isn't confusing at all. He's got a plan. He's going for back-to-back titles and doing what great teams do: he's filling in needs when the core is excellent so that there are no real glaring weaknesses.
Lots of analysts way overvalue low-round draft picks as well.

The Eagles had 12 picks in next year’s draft, so going down to 10 is not a huge deal.
 
Lots of analysts way overvalue low-round draft picks as well.

The Eagles had 12 picks in next year’s draft, so going down to 10 is not a huge deal.

I think it comes from analysts being around GMs and taking what they say as gospel. GMs value picks like they're holding onto an inflatable raft in an emergency, but in reality, GMs overvalue those picks. Same with fantasy dynasty players. Any pick after your second-round picks are crapshoots, and even your second-round picks hit at a lower rate than one thinks. First-round cost control is huge, and second-round duration of contract is also, but those later picks in the draft? If you can get a bona fide player who doesn't get paid that much (like Bigsby) it's really a win. At least as far as I can suss out. I haven't really seen any numbers or hit rates that are a good counterargument against using your picks for players.

I mean, it takes a good story or rooting interest off of the table during the third day of the draft, but that's often all it does. Why do people think the almost frenzy around Jacory Croskey-Merritt is so significant? These guys almost never start and last more than a year or so.

Bigsby fumbles a lot and isn't a very good receiving back. So Jacksonville found him expendable. But even given that, he suits Philly's needs. Frankly, I think the Eagles' second-best RB just signed again to the practice squad after Philly kept A.J. Dillon over him for some reason I can't quite figure out. I don't know if they've released him because of Bigsby, but Montrell Johnson is a physical dynamo and Philly is kind of lucky nobody signed him. He might never see the field in a regular season game, but there are other completely mediocre guys on practice squads all over. Hell, the Dallas pro room or Houston pro room would be happy to have him.
 
Lots of analysts way overvalue low-round draft picks as well.

The Eagles had 12 picks in next year’s draft, so going down to 10 is not a huge deal.

I think it comes from analysts being around GMs and taking what they say as gospel. GMs value picks like they're holding onto an inflatable raft in an emergency, but in reality, GMs overvalue those picks. Same with fantasy dynasty players. Any pick after your second-round picks are crapshoots, and even your second-round picks hit at a lower rate than one thinks. First-round cost control is huge, and second-round duration of contract is also, but those later picks in the draft? If you can get a bona fide player who doesn't get paid that much (like Bigsby) it's really a win. At least as far as I can suss out. I haven't really seen any numbers or hit rates that are a good counterargument against using your picks for players.

I mean, it takes a good story or rooting interest off of the table during the third day of the draft, but that's often all it does. Why do people think the almost frenzy around Jacory Croskey-Merritt is so significant? These guys almost never start and last more than a year or so.

Bigsby fumbles a lot and isn't a very good receiving back. So Jacksonville found him expendable. But even given that, he suits Philly's needs. Frankly, I think your second-best RB just signed again to the practice squad after you had kept A.J. Dillon over him for some reason I can't quite figure out. I don't know if you've released him because of Bigsby, but Montrell Johnson is a physical dynamo and Philly is kind of lucky nobody signed him. He might never see the field in a regular season game, but there are other completely mediocre guys on practice squads all over. Hell, the Dallas pro room or Houston pro room would be happy to have him.

The fact that he has another year of control saves you from worrying about this position next offseason. Kind of like the Metchie trade, Metchie probably has very limited value this year and could be a WR3 next year. Get them in your building now so next year when you need them they hit the ground running.
 
Lots of analysts way overvalue low-round draft picks as well.

The Eagles had 12 picks in next year’s draft, so going down to 10 is not a huge deal.

I think it comes from analysts being around GMs and taking what they say as gospel. GMs value picks like they're holding onto an inflatable raft in an emergency, but in reality, GMs overvalue those picks. Same with fantasy dynasty players. Any pick after your second-round picks are crapshoots, and even your second-round picks hit at a lower rate than one thinks. First-round cost control is huge, and second-round duration of contract is also, but those later picks in the draft? If you can get a bona fide player who doesn't get paid that much (like Bigsby) it's really a win. At least as far as I can suss out. I haven't really seen any numbers or hit rates that are a good counterargument against using your picks for players.

I mean, it takes a good story or rooting interest off of the table during the third day of the draft, but that's often all it does. Why do people think the almost frenzy around Jacory Croskey-Merritt is so significant? These guys almost never start and last more than a year or so.

Bigsby fumbles a lot and isn't a very good receiving back. So Jacksonville found him expendable. But even given that, he suits Philly's needs. Frankly, I think your second-best RB just signed again to the practice squad after you had kept A.J. Dillon over him for some reason I can't quite figure out. I don't know if you've released him because of Bigsby, but Montrell Johnson is a physical dynamo and Philly is kind of lucky nobody signed him. He might never see the field in a regular season game, but there are other completely mediocre guys on practice squads all over. Hell, the Dallas pro room or Houston pro room would be happy to have him.

The fact that he has another year of control saves you from worrying about this position next offseason. Kind of like the Metchie trade, Metchie probably has very limited value this year and could be a WR3 next year. Get them in your building now so next year when you need them they hit the ground running.

That's likely something that was taken under consideration. He also makes about only 1.6 million dollars or so (1.7?) and that's also enticing. For the quality of player you get, you're not spending a ton more than you would for a draft pick and you're assured that he's an NFL-caliber player (he almost beat Etienne out last year).

eta* Bigsby makes 1.1 million dollars this year and 1.4 million next year. Not guaranteed. The 5th might become a 4th if Huff gets those sacks as mentioned upthread.
 
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huh, I watched the game and don't remember seeing him leave the game with this injury. thanks for the details gents. costly, but at least it shows they're in it to win it, back to back clearly on their goal list.
 
Per Scheftar

NFL is fining Eagles DT Jalen Carter $57,222 for spitting on Dak Prescott. The league also says the game he was ejected for will serve as a one-game suspension. “After talking to the Eagles, the NFL and the NFLPA, Jalen has decided not to appeal and focus on the Chiefs game,” said Carter’s agent Drew Rosenhaus.
 
Per Scheftar

NFL is fining Eagles DT Jalen Carter $57,222 for spitting on Dak Prescott. The league also says the game he was ejected for will serve as a one-game suspension. “After talking to the Eagles, the NFL and the NFLPA, Jalen has decided not to appeal and focus on the Chiefs game,” said Carter’s agent Drew Rosenhaus.
Makes sense.
 
Per Scheftar

NFL is fining Eagles DT Jalen Carter $57,222 for spitting on Dak Prescott. The league also says the game he was ejected for will serve as a one-game suspension. “After talking to the Eagles, the NFL and the NFLPA, Jalen has decided not to appeal and focus on the Chiefs game,” said Carter’s agent Drew Rosenhaus.
I'm fine with it. Go Eagles! (for this week at least)
 

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