Godsbrother
Footballguy
Exactly. The defensive coaching staff (including Tomlin) should be getting a hell of a lot more out of the personnel the have had over the last couple of years.
If they aren’t up to the task they need to go.
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If they aren’t up to the task they need to go.
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
Has the offense really exceeded expectations? They're bottom 10 in total yards per game and rushing yards per game, middle of the pack in passing yards per game and total points per game.
Rodgers threw for nearly 4,000 yards, 28 TDs and 11 INTs last year and by all accounts looked better as the year went on. I think everyone expected him to immediately be an upgrade over Wilson or Fields. which he has been. It's not like the Steelers' weapons on offense are worse than what the Jets had, and they've been just about as effective as you'd expect them to be. Not world beaters, but good enough to be a middle of the pack offense.
The defense has been a joke compared to what they're being paid. Outside of creating turnovers, they've looked bad even in the wins. Of course, they looked bad for the 2nd half of last year too, so that can't be TOO surprising.
A middle of the pack offense and a middle of the pack defense gets you exactly what the Steelers have been for a long time now. Good enough to competitive against most teams, not good enough to really challenge the contenders.
If Tomlin's ego wasn't an issue, they'd have never let Brian Flores leave.
Dizzy
Footballguy
I thought Rogers would be on IR by now. They desperately need a second WR threat.
The defensive "stars" are on the wrong side of 30. The up-and-comers are OK-to-very good... but not great. Lot of talk within this thread about adjustments and man-vs-zone-vs-other... fact is, without QB pressure, no scheme is effective against a capable QB and league-best WRs (in the case of CIN). Chase and Higgins cannot be covered man-to-man by PIT, and without pass rushers bearing down the zones stretch further, windows get bigger, and guys come wide open. Flacco/Higgins/Chase will make any defense look silly if given time to do so.
Dude the Steelers are currently tied for 11th at 25 points per game. I believe those numbers include any defensive points but still.
So yes, the offense has exceeded expectations IMO.
The offense is the 25th highest paid out of 32 teams according to what I could find.
You expected the offense to be higher than 11th overall in scoring?
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Steelers4Life
Footballguy
In such a small sample size, they're 1.0 point per game higher than 16th, and yes, I expected them to be a roughly league average scoring team as long as Rodgers stays upright. Its not like Rodgers was an ineffective QB last year, just isn't enough to move the needle vs the best of them.
Dude the Steelers are currently tied for 11th at 25 points per game. I believe those numbers include any defensive points but still.
So yes, the offense has exceeded expectations IMO.
The offense is the 25th highest paid out of 32 teams according to what I could find.
You expected the offense to be higher than 11th overall in scoring?
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I don't think they've been anything more than I expected. I think the Steelers are exactly what everyone should've expected, and they will be until Rodgers gets hurt. Plenty of talent to win 9 or 10 games. Not good enough to be considered a legit Super Bowl contender.
drummer
Footballguy
The past few season in my text chain with my buddies, I post that I am going to take a giant dump on Rodgers to determine the outcome, no matter which team or game he plays. It's just a game we play and it's been more effective than not.
This past game, I was late to posting it when the Steelers were up 10-0 (I live on the West Coast), and then I texted my usual Rodgers constitution, and...
Sorry Mike Tomlin. I love ya. But a streak is a streak. You're lucky that I missed the Euro games because of my time zone.
This past game, I was late to posting it when the Steelers were up 10-0 (I live on the West Coast), and then I texted my usual Rodgers constitution, and...
Sorry Mike Tomlin. I love ya. But a streak is a streak. You're lucky that I missed the Euro games because of my time zone.
steelcityman
Footballguy
Their offense pays 2 TEs and 1 WR. Rodgers doesnt make a ton, I think only 1 OL is not on his rookie contract. The D spending has to come down to increase offense spending, but with no QB salary on the radar, they can pretty much pay whoever whatever they want.
Steelers are on pace for that 9 or 10 win season, kick the can down the road, QB still an issue moving forward, not a high enough pick to get the QB, ton of draft picks in rds 3-6 to fill roster with average players. But this year could be different if BALT doesnt wake up, Steelers can get another win, maybe get to 11 wins? Win the division is what can be different, and get a playoff home game, maybe beat NE or Jax or Chargers here in January. But if they dont allow their CBs to press, it wont matter. Their zone defense is awful, yet they use it all the time, allow yards in bunches, break one tackle and its a 25 yard play.
They'll play great vs GB sunday night, then disappear vs Indy the following week. Its a tale as old as time.... Play great vs LAC and Cincy, then awful vs Bears and Bills. Split with Bmore and lose at Cleveland. Beat Miami and get smoked at DET.....9-8. Question is, is that enough to win the division?
Steelers are on pace for that 9 or 10 win season, kick the can down the road, QB still an issue moving forward, not a high enough pick to get the QB, ton of draft picks in rds 3-6 to fill roster with average players. But this year could be different if BALT doesnt wake up, Steelers can get another win, maybe get to 11 wins? Win the division is what can be different, and get a playoff home game, maybe beat NE or Jax or Chargers here in January. But if they dont allow their CBs to press, it wont matter. Their zone defense is awful, yet they use it all the time, allow yards in bunches, break one tackle and its a 25 yard play.
They'll play great vs GB sunday night, then disappear vs Indy the following week. Its a tale as old as time.... Play great vs LAC and Cincy, then awful vs Bears and Bills. Split with Bmore and lose at Cleveland. Beat Miami and get smoked at DET.....9-8. Question is, is that enough to win the division?
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
I wonder how much their ability to pay a QB big money is impacted by paying a declining TJ Watt $40M per year.
I don't see the Steelers making a play for an expensive QB via free agency or trade.
steelcityman
Footballguy
there really arent those types in FA anymore, if you are good, the team you are on will pay you. Guys like Darnold, I dont think, are on the steelers radar, D Jones is the only one, and Indy will resign him for a few years, and thats it for FA in 2026. I do think Rodgers would be back in 2026. Steelers are never bad enough to get a top 10 pick, its a vicious cycle they are in.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
The scariest thing about this overpaid D is that there are currently only 6 teams that have a worse EPA/Play allowed.
Coming up,
Love/Jacobs
Jones/Taylor
Flacco and his duo again
Josh/Cook
?Lamar/King x2
Goff/Gibbs-Monty
Don't count out Herbert putting up some passing numbers and the Bears ability to run now that Ben's complex run scheme is starting to gel.
Fasten your seatbelts and get ready for more Tomlinisms.
Coming up,
Love/Jacobs
Jones/Taylor
Flacco and his duo again
Josh/Cook
?Lamar/King x2
Goff/Gibbs-Monty
Don't count out Herbert putting up some passing numbers and the Bears ability to run now that Ben's complex run scheme is starting to gel.
Fasten your seatbelts and get ready for more Tomlinisms.
Dizzy
Footballguy
Yeah, there is a chance that the PIT defense is worst in the league. They're the only team that NYJ offense moved the ball on this year... they're the only team that let Kenny Walker run all over them this year... they put up zero (0) resistance to a statuesque Joe Flacco vs CIN (will probably be their best game of the season on offense). Looking at the PIT schedule, I have a feeling this will get much worse.
Good for opposing fantasy players though... so there's that!
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crushedspirit
Footballguy
The hope is a few turnovers fall their way like the 5 vs NE that handed them a win. Other than that, I'm not sure they have the scheme to slow down some of those upcoming players.
At least the offense has been better than average a few times so far, but they're not built to keep up in high scoring races.
At least the offense has been better than average a few times so far, but they're not built to keep up in high scoring races.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Basically, and the way this year has broke it'll be the same for 2026.
Until they absolutely crater for a year, or do what the Chiefs did in a given year, they're likely to keep rolling with the "cheap-ish veteran who will keep Mike's non-losing streak on schedule." If Rodgers makes it through this season unscathed (and the team manages to not finish up 6-11
), I think both he and they will probably be agreeable to "one more ride, fam", as it were, in '26. If he decides to call it, they'll go find the next aging dude with a formerly "high pedigree" who wants to give it one more shot with a player's coach.I think they would LOVE to be able to select their next franchise QB in 2026 while the draft is in their own house, but as of this date Magic 8 Ball sez that is "incredibly unlikely." The guys I thought made the most sense for them coming into the year have pretty much vaulted ahead of the usual suspects that everyone assumed would be "top of the class" at QB this year. I would hope they wouldn't try to force it after already having had forcing it blow up in their face once already in the recent past.
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5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
For the hell of it, I went and looked at UFA QBs for 2026...
If Rodgers, indeed, decides to go on a permanent ayahuasca vaction after the season, let me be the first to welcome Joe Flacco to Pittsburgh.
Guarantees Mike never has to face him again.
If Rodgers, indeed, decides to go on a permanent ayahuasca vaction after the season, let me be the first to welcome Joe Flacco to Pittsburgh.
Guarantees Mike never has to face him again.
steelcityman
Footballguy
He if calls it quits after this year, they have to trade this years 1 and a 3 and next years 1 to move way up and get Mendoza or Moore, I'm not sold on Simpson, just yet. Mateer and Maiava would take some convincing, but maybe no trading. Draft is in Pittsburgh, so it could get wild.
Basically, and the way this year has broke it'll be the same for 2026.
Until they absolutely crater for a year, or do what the Chiefs did in a given year, they're likely to keep rolling with the "cheap-ish veteran who will keep Mike's non-losing streak on schedule." If Rodgers makes it through this season unscathed (and the team manages to not finish up 6-11
I think they would LOVE to be able to select their next franchise QB in 2026 while the draft is in their own house, but as of this date Magic 8 Ball sez that is "incredibly unlikely." The guys I thought made the most sense for them coming into the year have pretty much vaulted ahead of the usual suspects that everyone assumed would be "top of the class" at QB this year. I would hope they wouldn't try to force it after already having had forcing it blow up in their face once already in the recent past.
But regardless, hopefully they are getting a good look at Will Howard this year, how he fits the offense, is he learning from Rodgers, and maybe he gets in a game or two by EOY, that injury before preseason wk1 was bad for him.
If they think he is next, they have so many picks to get guys they need. CB, WR(s), S, IOL, more DL, LB. 7 picks in first 4 rds.
Sooner or later they will have to force something, either Howard or trading up, and by end of year, it might not be a huge trade up, I think this team is 9-8, middle of the pack. move from 16 to 3. They arent a top 4 team and have to trade from 29 to 3.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
The only hesitation with Ty is his college career start resume, but other than that he can make all NFL type throws and is poised in the pocket while going through all his progressions. There's some Mac Jones vibes with him, but with better mobility. I wish he would stay another year in the SEC to gain playing experience, but he won't. Mendoza is ready for the next step and is the guy I would target first with Moore a close second. There are more big games coming up, so that top-3 can change at any time.
Problem for me is the Steelers have zero coaching available to develop any of them, so until changes are made to address that I'm afraid it would end up being a wasted draft pick.
Problem for me is the Steelers have zero coaching available to develop any of them, so until changes are made to address that I'm afraid it would end up being a wasted draft pick.
steelcityman
Footballguy
I agree w the coaching, and it would be nice to have them be awful one year, and Tomlin ran out and his whole staff, bring in a new crew with an offensive background. Then maybe in 2027 get a Arch, CJ Carr, even maybe that kid from Florida, Raiola or Sayin. I dont think top tier QB talent will be as dry as the Pickett year(what a disaster that was!), but at some point, they gotta pull the trigger. With all the 3, 4, 5th rd picks they have, Allar wouldnt shock me at some point next draft. I bet Tomlin loves him.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
This is the guy I've wanted most for a couple of years...but he had to go and get himself out of Cal and have people actually start realizing how good he actually is.
They'd have to immediately hire a legit QB coach, regardless of whomever they bring in if they're planning to "go young", no question there. Artie as de facto "QB coach" for a 22/23 year old rook doesn't seem like the grandest of plans. He'd be involved, certainly, but they'll need to get a dedicated resource.
A lot of people forget how much Tommy Clements and Mark Whipple helped develop Ben early on (and Clements was key for Rodgers in GB after he left Pitt, according to A-a-ron). Ben has given major credit to Whipple for "making him a pro QB" (or somesuch. I'm paraphrasing from a pretty old memory).
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cdclopper
Footballguy
The Steelers coaching staff made Justin Fields look like a competent NFL qb. His record for other teams has been 10-32, for the Steelers was 4-2.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Not sure why you would think Fields with a 4-2 record would imply that a raw talent coming out of college would be no issue for this coaching staff to develop.
History has shown time and again how important proper tutelage and coaching is for any type of success at the NFL level for any college QB. What @5-ish Finkle stated above is 100% correct and any HOF QB will tell you the same. There is no coach on this team that can develop a college QB, so unless they hire someone specifically for that task any high pick for that position will be a waste.
irish eyes
Footballguy
Agree, any young QB has no shot of success with this coaching staff.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
What's not to like? Throws with timing and anticipation, plus excels at back shoulder and tight window throws as well. Might not be flashy, but the Goff comp is a good one. He is the best pocket passer you can get in the draft. He just makes NFL QB type throws weekly, and he's on everyone's radar now.
This is the guy I've wanted most for a couple of years...but he had to go and get himself out of Cal and have people actually start realizing how good he actually is.
They'd have to immediately hire a legit QB coach, regardless of whomever they bring in if they're planning to "go young", no question there. Artie as de facto "QB coach" for a 22/23 year old rook doesn't seem like the grandest of plans. He'd be involved, certainly, but they'll need to get a dedicated resource.
A lot of people forget how much Tommy Clements and Mark Whipple helped develop Ben early on (and Clements was key for Rodgers in GB after he left Pitt, according to A-a-ron). Ben has given major credit to Whipple for "making him a pro QB" (or somesuch. I'm paraphrasing from a pretty old memory).
You are 100% bang on with the coaching comments about Whipple and Clement. Even the GOAT of all stated several times what coaching did for his development in New England with Rehbein, Weis, and McDaniels.
cdclopper
Footballguy
I don't see what grounds anybody has to make make such a statement besides Tomlin bad. The one chance they've had to develope a potential starting quarterback is Kenny Pickett, who by all measures is just plain bad. He's on his 5th team already. So no other team has been able to develope him either.
The one that comes to mind for me is Mason Rudolph. I think he's done pretty well to improve into a solid back up. For a third round pick that's not too bad.
The one that comes to mind for me is Mason Rudolph. I think he's done pretty well to improve into a solid back up. For a third round pick that's not too bad.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Arthur did what with Ridder?
There is no evidence this staff can develop one, and in the limited instances we can extract from, it has been failures. Pickett, Mason, Dobbs, (who said this about his Steeler experience)
There is no evidence this staff can develop one, and in the limited instances we can extract from, it has been failures. Pickett, Mason, Dobbs, (who said this about his Steeler experience)
We have Tomlin, Arthur Smith, and Tom Arth. Wake me up when we get a proper coach on staff for a college QB.
cdclopper
Footballguy
You're talking about a coach failing to develope a 5th round pick. Have you considered the possibility all of the above qbs just aren't that good? I'm not including Mason Rudolph in that statement, either. I don't know what kind of expectations a person could have for a 3rd round pick who is still playing in the NFL at age 30 to be considered a failure of developement.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
All this current staff has done is develop career backups.
Dizzy
Footballguy
I'll take 3 Guys that Don't Play Football on Sunday's for $500 please.
It should be obvious, if you don't have an elite, franchise QB... your odds of being an annual contender drop to 0%. Since the passing rules swung heavily in favor of the offense in mid 1990s it has been this way. Even looking at Big Ben he was in that good-to-great category. Unfortunately for him and the Steelers his career spanned that of Peyton Manning and Tom Brady who were both on a tier above.
Steelers will be mid-pack until, somehow, they find that special QB again. Nothing's going to change that (for any team).
cdclopper
Footballguy
Well the Steelers have drafted probably 10 qbs during Tomlin's career and none of them have been franchise quarterbacks. Clearly a developement problem.
Dizzy
Footballguy
No. These guys don't grow on trees and you can't always make lemonade out of lemons.
How many true, franchise-chnaging (in a good way) QBs are playing in the NFL in any given year... 12, 10, less?
You either have one or you don't... and it's still a crap shoot even if you're in a draft position to grab one... no guarantees.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Look at guys like Baker and Darnold as perfect examples of what happens when the drafting team is the issue, and not the QB.
You guys expect a college QB to come in ready to go and already elite? Sorry, but that simply doesn't happen without the proper environment.
You guys expect a college QB to come in ready to go and already elite? Sorry, but that simply doesn't happen without the proper environment.
Dizzy
Footballguy
Sometimes the players aren't ready.
I am not interested in comparing Baker/Darnold to Mason/Dobbs/Pickett.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Not saying those guys should be stars. Never alluded to it at all. Just stated nobody has been developed including a 1st round pick.
If some think this current staff can develop someone then that's cool, I simply don't agree.
If some think this current staff can develop someone then that's cool, I simply don't agree.
Dizzy
Footballguy
Could be worse. Vikings must feel great about letting Darnold and Danny Dimes walk out the door.
cdclopper
Footballguy
You're comparing top 10 picks who turned out to be good with Mason Rudolph, Dennis Ridder, Josh Dobbs, and Kenny Pickett.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Making the point that sometimes teams fail the QBs they draft due to an improper environment overall that hinders development.
Many of these guys come out of college with limitations and need to have an entire scheme tooled around their strengths while minimizing the weaknesses. What Smith showed with Ridder was that the QB has to fit the system no matter what his skillset is or isn't. Desmond did not look very good, yet he was placed in a position where repeated errors without adjustments became the norm. Arthur was criticised heavily for the lack of coaching when it came to his young QB. He also had Mariota who showed no growth at all under his leadership with two teams while being benched both times.
Tomlin and Smith both prefer to manage an established veteran QB, this much is obvious to many. I simply do not have faith this current staff can properly develop a college QB, and there is zero evidence to convince me otherwise. It's all based on faith that they can, nothing more.
Many of these guys come out of college with limitations and need to have an entire scheme tooled around their strengths while minimizing the weaknesses. What Smith showed with Ridder was that the QB has to fit the system no matter what his skillset is or isn't. Desmond did not look very good, yet he was placed in a position where repeated errors without adjustments became the norm. Arthur was criticised heavily for the lack of coaching when it came to his young QB. He also had Mariota who showed no growth at all under his leadership with two teams while being benched both times.
Tomlin and Smith both prefer to manage an established veteran QB, this much is obvious to many. I simply do not have faith this current staff can properly develop a college QB, and there is zero evidence to convince me otherwise. It's all based on faith that they can, nothing more.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I suspect a win is coming tomorrow night, hopes reinforced and then crashing down to earth the following week.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I’m would be optimistic about tonight but that defensive effort last week was pretty disheartening.
The only hope is to bring pressure and get a few turnovers. If not the defense will be unable to get off the field and it’s going to be a long night.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I think Watt shows up in a big way tonight.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Embarrassing performance 2 weeks in a row. But that's the standard. Nothing will change. Nobody will get fired.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
"Couple some very odd offensive play calling in the 2nd half with an unimaginative, banal, defense that is aging in dog years by the day. Sprinkle liberally with Geritol. Stir repeatedly until mix comes to a simmer. Transfer to Dutch oven. Bake at 380 degrees for 35 min. Serve." If that's what you're cooking, these are pretty much exactly the kind of outcomes a chef should expect.
Green Bay kicked their a$$ all night. They had a few lucky catches for sure, but also a few unlucky drops earlier. The Steelers' D never really stopped them at all, they just waited around hoping they'd beat themselves.
No sacks. No turnovers. Almost no pressures. Still leaving guys wide open over and over again. They got what they richly deserved. Taylor and the Colts are likely going to leave cleat marks on this defense next Sunday.
Tuesday with Coach T should be a real banger.
Green Bay kicked their a$$ all night. They had a few lucky catches for sure, but also a few unlucky drops earlier. The Steelers' D never really stopped them at all, they just waited around hoping they'd beat themselves.
No sacks. No turnovers. Almost no pressures. Still leaving guys wide open over and over again. They got what they richly deserved. Taylor and the Colts are likely going to leave cleat marks on this defense next Sunday.
Tuesday with Coach T should be a real banger.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Thanks captain obvious.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
This first test went as thought as the D bent over after halftime
Next up.....
Next up.....
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Welp...Steichen has made Mike's D his kitty, both as Colts HC and the Eagles OC. Its gonna prolly be pretty ugly on D.
Havent checked to see how the Colts D stacks up this year, but im pretty confident in blindly assuming "theyre probably better than Pittsburgh's right now."
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
Worst Steelers defense in decades and the fact that it is among the highest paid adds insult to injury.
If this defense was just a below average unit the team would be 6-1. The amazing thing is even as bad as they are the Steelers are still in the lead of the crappy AFC North (at least for the time being)
I know it won’t happen but I think the Steelers should be major sellers at the trade deadline. Then clean house in the offseason (including coaching staff) and let the rebuild commence with a new HC.
If this defense was just a below average unit the team would be 6-1. The amazing thing is even as bad as they are the Steelers are still in the lead of the crappy AFC North (at least for the time being)
I know it won’t happen but I think the Steelers should be major sellers at the trade deadline. Then clean house in the offseason (including coaching staff) and let the rebuild commence with a new HC.
Well at least be constructive. We were not picked to be 4-3 but 4-5 is not far away.
The OL is legit. Run the ****ing ball. Move Anderson to RG, drop Sem’s salary and add depth.
Figure out how to mix in #80. The man can block but his Wr skills are limited to when he is uncovered.
Warren and Gainwell are OK if not spectacular. Run and throw to them more and get #20 in there. He’s a third rd pick and not seeing the field. What was Skateboo?
DK is fine but needs a #2 desperately. Austin and Wilson are lost pics. We only need 1 of them at most.
Friermouth and Smith are both busts. Not even remotely open.
Roger’s can’t run at all. That’s a problem in the modern NFL
Boswell is ****ing gold. Make sure you have another one ready
The D
OMG bad.
Keep Ramsey and Queen and play them properly. JPJ, do not pay big money. Cam has to go, and TJ is fading but getting doubled/chipped to become a non factor.
I would probably trade Highsmith and get Wilson to be our new ST ace or let him go. Her big and Highsmith are redundant
We must have a dominant ILB who punishes ballcarriers and guards TE’s if we are going to run the 3-4 with little OLB’s. Shazier. It’s a must have
I can’t even talk about the CB and safety play. I can’t remember the last coverage sack, but 3rd and long is the preferred down for our opponent.
And lastly, our playcallers.
They are simply not NFL caliber. We could probably run pretty hard if we had a real RB, but we don’t. And with no WR2 and Roger’s can’t run, well here we are.
The D is inexcusable. We stop the run pretty well at times but the pass D is so incoherent. We are out of position constantly.
The OL is legit. Run the ****ing ball. Move Anderson to RG, drop Sem’s salary and add depth.
Figure out how to mix in #80. The man can block but his Wr skills are limited to when he is uncovered.
Warren and Gainwell are OK if not spectacular. Run and throw to them more and get #20 in there. He’s a third rd pick and not seeing the field. What was Skateboo?
DK is fine but needs a #2 desperately. Austin and Wilson are lost pics. We only need 1 of them at most.
Friermouth and Smith are both busts. Not even remotely open.
Roger’s can’t run at all. That’s a problem in the modern NFL
Boswell is ****ing gold. Make sure you have another one ready
The D
OMG bad.
Keep Ramsey and Queen and play them properly. JPJ, do not pay big money. Cam has to go, and TJ is fading but getting doubled/chipped to become a non factor.
I would probably trade Highsmith and get Wilson to be our new ST ace or let him go. Her big and Highsmith are redundant
We must have a dominant ILB who punishes ballcarriers and guards TE’s if we are going to run the 3-4 with little OLB’s. Shazier. It’s a must have
I can’t even talk about the CB and safety play. I can’t remember the last coverage sack, but 3rd and long is the preferred down for our opponent.
And lastly, our playcallers.
They are simply not NFL caliber. We could probably run pretty hard if we had a real RB, but we don’t. And with no WR2 and Roger’s can’t run, well here we are.
The D is inexcusable. We stop the run pretty well at times but the pass D is so incoherent. We are out of position constantly.
Reply to my own post
1. We’re better than expected. That’s Rogers, the OL, Warren is who we thought, and Boswell. Check back in 3 weeks.
2. DK is the only legit pass catcher. Wilson, Austin, Friermouth and Smith ….nope. 4 swings, 4 misses.
3. Someone smarter than me tell me what to do on D. But it seems like we are always too mall up front? Is that the 3-4? James Harrison is retired btw.
4. At some point you have to play for next year. We’re old where you need to be young and young where you need to be old.
My fantasy team is 6-2, first place. Only drafted the Steelers D, so good to go. (They have been benched for weeks now)
1. We’re better than expected. That’s Rogers, the OL, Warren is who we thought, and Boswell. Check back in 3 weeks.
2. DK is the only legit pass catcher. Wilson, Austin, Friermouth and Smith ….nope. 4 swings, 4 misses.
3. Someone smarter than me tell me what to do on D. But it seems like we are always too mall up front? Is that the 3-4? James Harrison is retired btw.
4. At some point you have to play for next year. We’re old where you need to be young and young where you need to be old.
My fantasy team is 6-2, first place. Only drafted the Steelers D, so good to go. (They have been benched for weeks now)
Judge Smails
Footballguy
The secondary just has huge problems tracking the ball. Several plays where it looked like 2 Steelers should pick off a pass but they stumble and Packers make a big catch
Godsbrother
Footballguy
This. Sone of those completions were desperation throws that should have been picked or easily batted away. The secondary is putrid.
This has been a continuing issue for the defensive backs this season.
ThaPenguin
Footballguy
Definitely need to just burn it all down at this point (including that POS stadium honestly), very few that should remain on the roster and coaching staff. Need a couple 2-15 and 3-14 seasons, rookie contracts are the way to get there.
