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2025 Team Defense & Defense by Committee Thread (3 Viewers)

TZMarkie said:
 I "lucked into" the Dallas D 2 weeks ago in one league, and lo and behold I looked and they are sitting on the wire in another of my leagues.

 Its a 10 teamer, but I have no one to drop. My bench looks like this Zack Moss, Devin Singletary, Austin Ekeler, Justin Herbert (BYE and I ain't cutting him lol) Brandin Cooks, Michael Carter Javonte Williams. 

 We start 3 WRs, and Cooks is my only extra WR, can't drop him either.

Might have to drop Michael Carter. (I'd prefer he puts up points on MY BENCH not someone else's team)

 I know, first world problems right.......?

 Point is, I absolutely believe like Tigerz said above, if Dallas is available, you should try and acquire if you have any way to get them.   They are one of the few plug and play options at defense, and they might just have been dropped (or will be) because of the bye.

 TZM
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You only need 1 BUF RB. Having two is too much. I think you got to pick which one you like and ride them. As shown last night, really it's about the passing game and they can't sustain two. I personally think Moss has more upside because he'll get TDs if Allen doesn't try to pass, receive, run them in himself. I think Carter has way more opportunity and volume than the BUFF RBs to be honest and if they set him loose during second half with 20 carries / catches against easier run Ds he could be very valuable in a league decimated with injuries.

 
tigerz said:
You only need 1 BUF RB. Having two is too much. I think you got to pick which one you like and ride them. As shown last night, really it's about the passing game and they can't sustain two. I personally think Moss has more upside because he'll get TDs if Allen doesn't try to pass, receive, run them in himself. I think Carter has way more opportunity and volume than the BUFF RBs to be honest and if they set him loose during second half with 20 carries / catches against easier run Ds he could be very valuable in a league decimated with injuries.
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Its a fair point, but essentially theres 2-3 teams in this league that has virtually ALL the name running backs. I'm one of those. The rest of the bigger names are spread out to roughly 1 per team. Injuries have crippled teams this year at RB.  My guys tend to get hurt also, so I will be holding both buffalo guys most likely. (the 2 I'm rolling out this week is Melvin Gordon and Damien Harris, I didn't list those)

The one I really wouldn't be scared to face is Singletary, or  Michael Carter. Agreed, I think Carter has the potential to get decent volume, but that offense as a whole has been pretty bad, so that may not happen either if they are constantly behind.

 Either way, I'm going to have to make a decision, as I'm really wanting the Dallas D and not have to stream a bunch of bull#### at defense.     :wall:

I think I have a few days and don't have to fear anyone picking up the defense, since they are on bye fortunately.

 TZM

 
Debating between Cleveland and Denver for tomorrow night. I had originally been planning on using Cleveland, but their injuries on defense (and recent performance) have me questioning the decision, and their injuries on offense have me wondering if Denver is the better play.

Added wrinkle: someone just dropped Dallas on their bye. I could put in a claim on them and drop whichever defense I don't use tomorrow night (Yahoo league, so I can drop a bench player even if they've already played). Since Cleveland has a much easier schedule going forward, that would argue in favor of playing them tomorrow so I can drop Denver. Then again, if I get Dallas they're pretty much plug and play ROS (with the possible exception of @KC Week 11 and Ari Week 17), so it doesn't really matter which other D I have

 
ignatiusjreilly said:
Debating between Cleveland and Denver for tomorrow night. I had originally been planning on using Cleveland, but their injuries on defense (and recent performance) have me questioning the decision, and their injuries on offense have me wondering if Denver is the better play.

Added wrinkle: someone just dropped Dallas on their bye. I could put in a claim on them and drop whichever defense I don't use tomorrow night (Yahoo league, so I can drop a bench player even if they've already played). Since Cleveland has a much easier schedule going forward, that would argue in favor of playing them tomorrow so I can drop Denver. Then again, if I get Dallas they're pretty much plug and play ROS (with the possible exception of @KC Week 11 and Ari Week 17), so it doesn't really matter which other D I have
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Dropped Cleveland for New England but it could be an ok start 

 
ignatiusjreilly said:
Debating between Cleveland and Denver for tomorrow night. I had originally been planning on using Cleveland, but their injuries on defense (and recent performance) have me questioning the decision, and their injuries on offense have me wondering if Denver is the better play.

Added wrinkle: someone just dropped Dallas on their bye. I could put in a claim on them and drop whichever defense I don't use tomorrow night (Yahoo league, so I can drop a bench player even if they've already played). Since Cleveland has a much easier schedule going forward, that would argue in favor of playing them tomorrow so I can drop Denver. Then again, if I get Dallas they're pretty much plug and play ROS (with the possible exception of @KC Week 11 and Ari Week 17), so it doesn't really matter which other D I have
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Baker declared out for tomorrow. Keenum starting. 

Strong argument in favor of starting Denver.

 
Faust said:
With Baker Mayfield banged up, are Browns better off with Case Keenum?
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That article is hot garbage from Florio. I hate it when football analysts get all preachy like that.

I will say, though, that the fact that it's Keenum doesn't make me feel like Denver is a must-start the way I would if it were, say, Nathan Peterman or Dwayne Haskins or whoever that jabroni is that the Cowboys have backing up Dak. Keenum's probably worse than we remember (and what we remember was pretty bad) but he's not blatantly incompetent.

I think the far stronger argument for starting Denver is the sheer number of injuries the Browns are dealing with.

 
ignatiusjreilly said:
That article is hot garbage from Florio. I hate it when football analysts get all preachy like that.

I will say, though, that the fact that it's Keenum doesn't make me feel like Denver is a must-start the way I would if it were, say, Nathan Peterman or Dwayne Haskins or whoever that jabroni is that the Cowboys have backing up Dak. Keenum's probably worse than we remember (and what we remember was pretty bad) but he's not blatantly incompetent.

I think the far stronger argument for starting Denver is the sheer number of injuries the Browns are dealing with.
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Great post.  Keenum is equal to a banged up Baker so the Baker news doesn’t mean anything to me when considering the Denver D.   

 
I was able to get the Cardinals off the WW this week. Had to pay to get them, but hopefully worth it. Keeping Dallas defense as well during the bye week. Patriots defense was out there as well and someone paid 7% of the FAAB for them, so that helped me get Cards as the attention was on them due to ESPN projecting more points out of Pats. 

 
Timmay said:
I was able to get the Cardinals off the WW this week. Had to pay to get them, but hopefully worth it. Keeping Dallas defense as well during the bye week. Patriots defense was out there as well and someone paid 7% of the FAAB for them, so that helped me get Cards as the attention was on them due to ESPN projecting more points out of Pats. 
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I also picked up the Cards for 2% of FAAB.  Had to drop the Cowboys (short bench so never carry 2 DST)

 
BobbyLayne said:
Baker out, Keenum in

anyone considering Broncos VS the CLE JV squad? 
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I have both Ds and am still debating between the two.

One thing to keep in mind, as seen in @Faust's link above, is that Denver is dealing with its own injury issues, specifically at LB. Still, we saw earlier in the year that they can beat up on bad teams, and for this week at least, Cleveland appears to be a bad team. So as of right now I'm leaning Denver. But I'm going to sleep on it.

 
ignatiusjreilly said:
I have both Ds and am still debating between the two.

One thing to keep in mind, as seen in @Faust's link above, is that Denver is dealing with its own injury issues, specifically at LB. Still, we saw earlier in the year that they can beat up on bad teams, and for this week at least, Cleveland appears to be a bad team. So as of right now I'm leaning Denver. But I'm going to sleep on it.
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OK, slept on it and I'm going Denver. It could easily blow up in my face but I'm betting on Von Miller taking out all his frustrations on Cleveland's backup tackles.

I have a claim in for Dallas so I'll know by tomorrow morning if I have them as a plug-and-play D going forward. Fingers crossed.

 
'Thursday Night Football' preview: What to watch for in Broncos-Browns

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Is it Miller Time? Regardless of what Cleveland presents at offensive tackle to Broncos star pass rusher Von Miller, the matchup will bear watching. Browns left tackle Jedrick Wills (ankle) hasn’t played since Week 4, right tackle Jack Conklin(knee) hasn’t played since Week 5, and both are questionable to play. Whether he faces hobbled or healthy starters, or backups James Hudson and Blake Hance, Miller boldly predicted a big prime-time performance for himself. After being held sackless in his last two games, he’s clearly hungry. It would behoove the Browns to enlist some help from tight ends and running backs to help keep the three-time All-Pro out of the pocket.
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Unless I can work out a trade, I'll need to drop T. Lance in my keeper league to pick up a Defense this week. Best available are:

  • BAL v. CIN
  • IND @ SF
  • LV v PHI
  • NYG v. CAR
I loosely have them ranked as I listed above, but any Team Defense Guru's in here have any additional insight?

 
4th&inches said:
Unless I can work out a trade, I'll need to drop T. Lance in my keeper league to pick up a Defense this week. Best available are:

  • BAL v. CIN
  • IND @ SF
  • LV v PHI
  • NYG v. CAR
I loosely have them ranked as I listed above, but any Team Defense Guru's in here have any additional insight?
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Hmm, Indy or Bmore -- Problem with Bmore is they have bye next week.  Ravens Dee may be starting to gel, but looks like Indy may have a better schedule towards playoffs.  Probably depends on how bad you need a win this week   -- Ravens with better matchup

 
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JIslander said:
Hmm, Indy or Bmore -- Problem with Bmore is they have bye next week.  Ravens Dee may be starting to gel, but looks like Indy may have a better schedule towards playoffs.  Probably depends on how bad you need a win this week   -- Ravens with better matchup
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Appreciate the feedback; this would only be a 1-week DEF play, so leaning Ravens 

 
Debating between Broncos and Browns, gotta choose fast... Have the Browns in tentatively, but both seem juicy in what I expect to be a low-scoring affair with lots of mistakes.

 
robb said:
Indy lost their starting Safety. This is a big deal going forward IMHO!
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I saw that too...was really hoping Indy would be the play b/c they have the SNF game & I should have an idea how my team is doing by then & might not even need to pick up a D. 

Of course things never seem to work out that way though.

 
Absolutely Nothing said:
Debating between Broncos and Browns, gotta choose fast... Have the Browns in tentatively, but both seem juicy in what I expect to be a low-scoring affair with lots of mistakes.
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I had the same debate. Went with Denver. They both ended up being mediocre plays, only one point difference.

Denver is clearly droppable at this point. Cleveland has an OK-not-great upcoming schedule (Pit/@Cinci/@NE/Det) but I suspect there will be better options in most of those weeks. Maybe target them for the Detroit game.

 
ignatiusjreilly said:
I had the same debate. Went with Denver. They both ended up being mediocre plays, only one point difference.

Denver is clearly droppable at this point. Cleveland has an OK-not-great upcoming schedule (Pit/@Cinci/@NE/Det) but I suspect there will be better options in most of those weeks. Maybe target them for the Detroit game.
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I went soft-handed (figured Broncos had more quality offensive weapons) and switched over to Denver. In my league the difference was 4 points, not game breaking but not great in a week that I was scraping the bottom of the barrel for bye week coverage at other positions.

 
One league I have managed to hold Dallas...and grab SF for this week.

The other...I have been rolling with Indy for a bit and they have put up nice points (and have that NYJ/Jax Week 9/10 coming up).  With the safety injury...and that they seem to rely more on turnovers (which can be flukey)...I may be dropping them for SF for the next 2 weeks and hope to get them back before that 2 weeks of nice matchups.  SF should be good these 2 weeks in possible slop against Indy, then getting Chicago.

 
Someone inexplicably dropped the Bucs so I threw a couple % FAAB at them (dropped DEN.) Guess I’ll pair them with the underwhelming Pats going forward.

 
BobbyLayne said:
Someone inexplicably dropped the Bucs so I threw a couple % FAAB at them (dropped DEN.) Guess I’ll pair them with the underwhelming Pats going forward.
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What's your thoughts or hopes on NE D going forward? I see FBG's have NE D highly ranked for ROS even higher then TB hmm. They seem highly rated yet underwhelming lately. Playing them in 2 leagues this week. In one of the leagues with NE I added BUF D for a $4 FAB bid dropping Sterling Shepard on the news of the other side of questionable and fear he may not finish the game even if he does play. Shepard stock fell big this week. My other WR's are just fine. It's also easier to find a WR of that caliber. May continue with NE D in the other league. Finally playing CAR D in a third league in which I had to drop DAL D to pick up a kicker. Didn't like doing it but CAR D could be okay the rest of the way too. 

What's nice is when the streaming stops with a top ranked D/ST like BUF is set and play from here on out. Some might ride NO D.  Bye week is over. 

 
Team Smokin' said:
What's your thoughts or hopes on NE D going forward? I see FBG's have NE D highly ranked for ROS even higher then TB hmm. They seem highly rated yet underwhelming lately. Playing them in 2 leagues this week. In one of the leagues with NE I added BUF D for a $4 FAB bid dropping Sterling Shepard on the news of the other side of questionable and fear he may not finish the game even if he does play. Shepard stock fell big this week. My other WR's are just fine. It's also easier to find a WR of that caliber. May continue with NE D in the other league. Finally playing CAR D in a third league in which I had to drop DAL D to pick up a kicker. Didn't like doing it but CAR D could be okay the rest of the way too. 

What's nice is when the streaming stops with a top ranked D/ST like BUF is set and play from here on out. Some might ride NO D.  Bye week is over. 
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As a longtime NE fan I'm not impressed.

They spent a ton of money on that D. Should be performing a lot better.

Mills trying to cover Lamb last week was hilarious and now J. Jones is out in the secondary as well.

Should be a solid play at home against Z. Wilson. Only hope is that Bill B. tends to get his teams trending in the right direction as you head towards November/December.

 
Team Smokin' said:
What's your thoughts or hopes on NE D going forward? I see FBG's have NE D highly ranked for ROS even higher then TB hmm. They seem highly rated yet underwhelming lately. Playing them in 2 leagues this week. In one of the leagues with NE I added BUF D for a $4 FAB bid dropping Sterling Shepard on the news of the other side of questionable and fear he may not finish the game even if he does play. Shepard stock fell big this week. My other WR's are just fine. It's also easier to find a WR of that caliber. May continue with NE D in the other league. Finally playing CAR D in a third league in which I had to drop DAL D to pick up a kicker. Didn't like doing it but CAR D could be okay the rest of the way too. 

What's nice is when the streaming stops with a top ranked D/ST like BUF is set and play from here on out. Some might ride NO D.  Bye week is over. 
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Traded Gilmore (who misses the first 6 weeks), 2 backup CBs out this week, worked out several FA DBs this week, and though it’s largely meaningless with the Pats, 11 of the 14 on the injury report are on defense. Hard to trust them right now. Super juicy matchup at home but I’m considering Bucs v CIN. Need to see something this week or Im dumping them to the WW.

 
themeistersinger said:
That was my plan when I drafted them and I'm glad I followed through on that train of thought.
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Right?

Everyone in pre-season said "Broncos have a great start, I'm gonna get them for the first three games, then figure out the rest later."

Three games go by, and suddenly all the same people were saying "Broncos have been on fire to start the year! They could be legit, they could be worth playing all season!"

...um, we all knew they'd start hot, that was the plan! Why did 'what you expected to happen' happening cause people to change? :lmao:  

 
Runkle said:
Right?

Everyone in pre-season said "Broncos have a great start, I'm gonna get them for the first three games, then figure out the rest later."

Three games go by, and suddenly all the same people were saying "Broncos have been on fire to start the year! They could be legit, they could be worth playing all season!"

...um, we all knew they'd start hot, that was the plan! Why did 'what you expected to happen' happening cause people to change? :lmao:  
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I considered sticking with them.  I dropped them for the Bengals who appeared to have a GREAT matchup - big disappointment that week.  DST is always a crap shoot.  I tend to choose mine based on the opposing offense rather on the defense themselves.

 
steelerfan1 said:
Anyone concerned about cards d with chandler jones out?
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Not vs Houston, we shouldn't be.  Markus Golden has picked up the slack quite well that past few weeks.  Also, outside of Chandler's wk 1 explosion for the 5 sacks he's just been okay.  I believe the 18 point betting line is crazy, but Arizona should roll these guys easily, IMO.

 
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