2nd round WRs (1 Viewer)

[Scruff Mcgruff]

I think this is a relevant topic for people looking to take a WR in the 2nd round. I think a lot of this comes down to personal preference and a tossup after AJ and Moss are off the board.

Here's the current ADPs for WRs 3-8 in a PPR league via www.fantasyfootballcalculator.com

1.12 Reggie Wayne WR IND

1.12 Calvin Johnson WR DET

2.01 Miles Austin WR DAL

2.04 Larry Fitzgerald WR ARI

2.04 Brandon Marshall WR MIA

2.04 Roddy White WR ATL

I think there's a decent drop off from these players and the next tier of WRs (Greg Jennings, DeSean Jackson, Colston etc) but maybe some see the argument for those three and others in the early-mid second round position.

My personal rankings of these 6 that I keep waffling on.

1. Reggie Wayne

Pros- great offense + qb, proven performer

Cons- Less upside than some of the others, too many other options in offense

2. Miles Austin

Pros- had numbers as good as the other players on this list in less games started, good offense

Cons- less proven than others, Dez Bryant could take some looks away

3. Roddy White

Pros- Up and coming offense with young QB, Having a great off-season from all reports

Cons- More of a running offense with Turner back

4. Brandon Marshall

Pros- 100 plus receptions twice in career, put up big numbers with a coach who hated him and a so-so qb in orton last season

Cons- High-Risk/Reward. Miami is a running offense. Unsure how he will fit into a new system and team

5. Calvin Johnson

Pros- Beast, Big WR who will be the number 1 option in the red zone

Cons- how often can the Detroit Lions can in the red zone? Has Stafford actually improved? worst numbers of this group last season

6. Larry Fitzgerald

Pros- One of the top talents in the league, Has been a great wr for over 2 seasons, Boldin leaving= more targets

Cons- Matt Leinart, Boldin leaving= more double and triple teams

Interested in hearing other opinions on the topic because I'm sure others are in the same boat trying to make a decision between these 6. and any arguments for any other WR to be included in this list is welcome as well.

 

[Timmay]

I like your rankings, but i would switch Marshall and Roddy, especially in a PPR league.

Reggie Wayne: Every year he is at the top, and every year he performs like he should be at the top.

Miles Austin: I think Romo is going to have a monster year, great balance in the Cowboys offense with Witten, Barber, Felix, and Bryant.

Brandon Marshall: I think Marshall is going to be a beast this year, and Henne is going to prove he is an NFL QB.

Roddy White: I moved him down a spot, not that i dont like him, but i like Marshall slightly better. Roddy will still be a stud, good balance in offense with Gonzo and Turner. Return of Turner could take some plays away however.

Calvin Johnson: He is just a freak when it comes to the WR position, only questions i have with him is Stafford throwing him the ball and how he is going to bounce back from last year.

Larry Fitzgerald: He is amazing, but i am a little worried about Lienart being the one to throw him the ball, and how many double and triple teams he will recieve with Boldin gome and Breaston the only viable WR besides him. I am staying away from him the most of the 6.

 

[Scruff Mcgruff]

I like your rankings, but i would switch Marshall and Roddy, especially in a PPR league. Reggie Wayne: Every year he is at the top, and every year he performs like he should be at the top. Miles Austin: I think Romo is going to have a monster year, great balance in the Cowboys offense with Witten, Barber, Felix, and Bryant.Brandon Marshall: I think Marshall is going to be a beast this year, and Henne is going to prove he is an NFL QB. Roddy White: I moved him down a spot, not that i dont like him, but i like Marshall slightly better. Roddy will still be a stud, good balance in offense with Gonzo and Turner. Return of Turner could take some plays away however.Calvin Johnson: He is just a freak when it comes to the WR position, only questions i have with him is Stafford throwing him the ball and how he is going to bounce back from last year.Larry Fitzgerald: He is amazing, but i am a little worried about Lienart being the one to throw him the ball, and how many double and triple teams he will recieve with Boldin gome and Breaston the only viable WR besides him. I am staying away from him the most of the 6.

Thanks for the response. White and Marshall are the ones I go back and forth on the most. I think it depends on what type of WR you want, I think Marshall is higher risk/reward and White is the safer choice but with Michael Turner on the team he doesn't have the 100 catch potential that Marshall has.

 

[laughinboy_2000]

I like your rankings, but i would switch Marshall and Roddy, especially in a PPR league. Reggie Wayne: Every year he is at the top, and every year he performs like he should be at the top. Miles Austin: I think Romo is going to have a monster year, great balance in the Cowboys offense with Witten, Barber, Felix, and Bryant.Brandon Marshall: I think Marshall is going to be a beast this year, and Henne is going to prove he is an NFL QB. Roddy White: I moved him down a spot, not that i dont like him, but i like Marshall slightly better. Roddy will still be a stud, good balance in offense with Gonzo and Turner. Return of Turner could take some plays away however.Calvin Johnson: He is just a freak when it comes to the WR position, only questions i have with him is Stafford throwing him the ball and how he is going to bounce back from last year.Larry Fitzgerald: He is amazing, but i am a little worried about Lienart being the one to throw him the ball, and how many double and triple teams he will recieve with Boldin gome and Breaston the only viable WR besides him. I am staying away from him the most of the 6.

Thanks for the response. White and Marshall are the ones I go back and forth on the most. I think it depends on what type of WR you want, I think Marshall is higher risk/reward and White is the safer choice but with Michael Turner on the team he doesn't have the 100 catch potential that Marshall has.

Not only does White have an advantage of more of a passing offense, but he's also got an advantage on an easier schedule if you ask me. BMarsh will get Revis Land twice as well as Pittsburgh, GB, Cinci and Oak. Much tougher schedule than Marshall is used to IMO.

 

[Brady Gaga]

I think Calvin is far ahead of this group b/c of his upside.

Tier 1

AJ

Moss

Tier 2

Calvin

Tier 3

Austin

White

Wayne

Marshall

Fitz

Jackson

 

[C-Bound]

I think Calvin is far ahead of this group b/c of his upside.

Tier 1

AJ

Moss

Tier 2

Calvin

Tier 3

Austin

White

Wayne

Marshall

Fitz

Jackson

Good topic. I'm thinking going WR/WR as I have the 5th pick (10 team) but Turner, CJ3, and Rice are keepers. Thinking AJ if he falls, otherwise Moss. IMO those players tier like:Tier 1

AJ

Moss

Tier 2

Calvin

Austin

Wayne

Tier 3

White

Marshall

Fitz

Jackson

 

[Scruff Mcgruff]

I think Calvin is far ahead of this group b/c of his upside.

Tier 1

AJ

Moss

Tier 2

Calvin

Tier 3

Austin

White

Wayne

Marshall

Fitz

Jackson

I think Calvin is a lot more risky than the others. Still do not trust the QB and he did have a lackluster year last season even if it wasn't his fault that offense was beyond absymal. It does look more promising with Best though, I'll admit that.P.S. No love for Greg Jennings? I'd take him over DeSean Jackson.

 

[Brady Gaga]

I think Calvin is far ahead of this group b/c of his upside.

Tier 1

AJ

Moss

Tier 2

Calvin

Tier 3

Austin

White

Wayne

Marshall

Fitz

Jackson

I think Calvin is a lot more risky than the others. Still do not trust the QB and he did have a lackluster year last season even if it wasn't his fault that offense was beyond absymal. It does look more promising with Best though, I'll admit that.P.S. No love for Greg Jennings? I'd take him over DeSean Jackson.

Knew I was forgetting someone!

 

[AtomicDogg97]

I think Greg Jennings belongs in this tier but Desean jackson does not.

 

[SSOG]

3. Roddy WhitePros- Up and coming offense with young QB, Having a great off-season from all reportsCons- More of a running offense with Turner back

In the first 9 games of last season (before Turner got hurt), White averaged 5.2/74.2/0.67 (non-PPR: 11.44 ppg. PPR: 16.64 ppg). In the last 7 games of last season (after Turner got hurt), White averaged 5.4/69.3/0.71 (non-PPR: 11.19 ppg. PPR: 16.59 ppg). Those splits like as close to identical as you're going to see in fantasy football.

 

[Nagle2998]

I might be a bit of a homer but I think D.Jackson belongs in this conversation because of Kolb. I think McNabb's biggest weakness during the regular season was that he couldn't hit a Wr in stride which is something Kolb does very well. This is also something that will make Jackson that much better with YAC if that is possible and I think Jackson and Kolb both like the crossing pattern which McNabb didn't. The only worry I have about Jackson is injuries because he seems to get nicked up a lot. I'm expecting 75 catches this year and somewhere close to 1300 yards.

 

[Bolted]

I might be a bit of a homer but I think D.Jackson belongs in this conversation because of Kolb. I think McNabb's biggest weakness during the regular season was that he couldn't hit a Wr in stride which is something Kolb does very well. This is also something that will make Jackson that much better with YAC if that is possible and I think Jackson and Kolb both like the crossing pattern which McNabb didn't. The only worry I have about Jackson is injuries because he seems to get nicked up a lot. I'm expecting 75 catches this year and somewhere close to 1300 yards.

I agree that he is in the conversation. However he does come with a higher risk/reward. Last year he did finish 4th for fantasy per game AFTER you throw out games they didn't play (injuries, Week17 sitdowns, etc). I think Kolb is a ?, but it could be a good ? or a bad one. But for a reciever that put up those numbers, he has to be in the discussion.

 

[Sweetness_34]

I like your rankings, but i would switch Marshall and Roddy, especially in a PPR league. Reggie Wayne: Every year he is at the top, and every year he performs like he should be at the top. Miles Austin: I think Romo is going to have a monster year, great balance in the Cowboys offense with Witten, Barber, Felix, and Bryant.Brandon Marshall: I think Marshall is going to be a beast this year, and Henne is going to prove he is an NFL QB. Roddy White: I moved him down a spot, not that i dont like him, but i like Marshall slightly better. Roddy will still be a stud, good balance in offense with Gonzo and Turner. Return of Turner could take some plays away however.Calvin Johnson: He is just a freak when it comes to the WR position, only questions i have with him is Stafford throwing him the ball and how he is going to bounce back from last year.Larry Fitzgerald: He is amazing, but i am a little worried about Lienart being the one to throw him the ball, and how many double and triple teams he will recieve with Boldin gome and Breaston the only viable WR besides him. I am staying away from him the most of the 6.

Thanks for the response. White and Marshall are the ones I go back and forth on the most. I think it depends on what type of WR you want, I think Marshall is higher risk/reward and White is the safer choice but with Michael Turner on the team he doesn't have the 100 catch potential that Marshall has.

You do realize the Fins actually have 2 RBs that can go for 1000 yards each while the Falcons have just one? If Ronnie stays healthy, and given all of the wild cat they run, be careful of this Marshall will get 1000 yards syndrome. Also, a new WR in a new system; team; QB is not automatically going to be gold from the start. FInally if Revis plays, Marshall will get shut down twice a year. SImlar issue with Moss. I would temper Marshall's #s based on that.

 

[fightingillini]

3. Roddy WhitePros- Up and coming offense with young QB, Having a great off-season from all reportsCons- More of a running offense with Turner back

In the first 9 games of last season (before Turner got hurt), White averaged 5.2/74.2/0.67 (non-PPR: 11.44 ppg. PPR: 16.64 ppg). In the last 7 games of last season (after Turner got hurt), White averaged 5.4/69.3/0.71 (non-PPR: 11.19 ppg. PPR: 16.59 ppg). Those splits like as close to identical as you're going to see in fantasy football.

surprised it's that close. It doesn't matter whether Turner is in there or not....White is going to get his 5-6 catches a game. It's not like ATL changed their offensive philosophy once Turner got injured. They are a balanced offense.Out of all the 2nd round WRs, I think Roddy White has the highest floor. I think Marshall and Calvin and Austin have more upside, but you know you're going to get solid production from White.

 

[fightingillini]

I think this is a relevant topic for people looking to take a WR in the 2nd round. I think a lot of this comes down to personal preference and a tossup after AJ and Moss are off the board.

Here's the current ADPs for WRs 3-8 in a PPR league via www.fantasyfootballcalculator.com

1.12 Reggie Wayne WR IND

1.12 Calvin Johnson WR DET

2.01 Miles Austin WR DAL

2.04 Larry Fitzgerald WR ARI

2.04 Brandon Marshall WR MIA

2.04 Roddy White WR ATL

I think there's a decent drop off from these players and the next tier of WRs (Greg Jennings, DeSean Jackson, Colston etc) but maybe some see the argument for those three and others in the early-mid second round position.

My personal rankings of these 6 that I keep waffling on.

1. Reggie Wayne

Pros- great offense + qb, proven performer

Cons- Less upside than some of the others, too many other options in offense

2. Miles Austin

Pros- had numbers as good as the other players on this list in less games started, good offense

Cons- less proven than others, Dez Bryant could take some looks away

3. Roddy White

Pros- Up and coming offense with young QB, Having a great off-season from all reports

Cons- More of a running offense with Turner back

4. Brandon Marshall

Pros- 100 plus receptions twice in career, put up big numbers with a coach who hated him and a so-so qb in orton last season

Cons- High-Risk/Reward. Miami is a running offense. Unsure how he will fit into a new system and team

5. Calvin Johnson

Pros- Beast, Big WR who will be the number 1 option in the red zone

Cons- how often can the Detroit Lions can in the red zone? Has Stafford actually improved? worst numbers of this group last season

6. Larry Fitzgerald

Pros- One of the top talents in the league, Has been a great wr for over 2 seasons, Boldin leaving= more targets

Cons- Matt Leinart, Boldin leaving= more double and triple teams

Interested in hearing other opinions on the topic because I'm sure others are in the same boat trying to make a decision between these 6. and any arguments for any other WR to be included in this list is welcome as well.

You will see these guys ranked many different ways......IMO there is a dropoff after AJ and Randy Moss.I disagree with Wayne being at the top. He's getting up there in age....to me he has slowed down a little. He has to compete with D Clark, Addai, Garcon, A Gonzalez, and Collie for catches. Manning loves to exploit matchups, so I don't feel that Wayne will be as consistent as others......as well as I think all the above WRs have more upside than Wayne. Wayne is still a solid WR, but I would never take him at the 1/2 swing. You would be taking him as WR3, but the odds of him finishing a top 5 WR is not great IMO.

Of these WRs....my rankings are (PPR, and after AJ and R Moss)...... 3) Austin, 4) White, 5) Fitzgerald, 6) Calvin, 7) Marshall, 8) Wayne.

I feel DAL is going to be a machine on offense and Austin is the real deal.

White I think has the highest floor. Least number of question marks of these WRs. Should be a lock for 85/1200/9, with potential for more.

Fitz has substantial upside, has Leinart tossing him the rock. Fitz still should get 90 or so catches, but I think his YPC will be low and 10+ TDs will be a stretch.

Calvin IMO has the most upside given his situation. If Stafford breaks out, Calvin could easily have a 90/1400/14 type year.... Has some injury issues and will likely be the least consistent of the WRs listed.

Love Marshall's talent, but MIA will still be a run first team....100 catches will be a stretch, but I can see him getting 85-90. Might be a little slow getting out of the gate as he adjusts to Henne as his QB.

If you get a big 4 RB and one of these WRs in the 2nd round.....

 

[The Indestructible]

 

[da_budman]

Tier 1

AJ

Moss

Tier 2

Calvin Just a freak athlete. I expect him to have a breakout year this year. He is my upside play.

White Roddy may very well be the safest pick in the mix not named Moss or AJ. There is something to be said for playing it safe in round 2

Wayne Great talent but there is way too much competition in Indy for an aging receiver for my taste. He is off my draft board because

I am sure he will go higher than I am willing to take him.

Tier 3

Marshall Freak tallent on a new team that runs the ball alot. The good news is he doesn't have much competition for receptions on that team.

Fitz Great talent,poor qb. Still he will get his. Also off my board because he will go before I am willing to risk taking him.

Austin Just not sold on him repeating last year given the new weapon and the word that Witten is going to be more involved this year (assuming that happens)

Tier 4

Jackson I think he will have a good year, just not top 10 good.