#3 Rookie Pick, Beckhan, Cooks, Benjamin, QB or still available (1 Viewer)

[Cleat Spike]

I'm having a hard time not taking Cooks 1.03 in a PPR regardless of Sankey's opportunity. Brees is set. Payton is set. That fast turf is set. Colston has a year left if that. Cooks and Stills are the future. Immediate PT for Cooks over Toon and Joe Morgan. Look at what Lance Moore did there at his peak and Cooks is twice the talent and 6 years younger or so. A lot to like about Cooks in this situation all around.

 

[Avery]

I'm having a hard time not taking Cooks 1.03 in a PPR regardless of Sankey's opportunity. Brees is set. Payton is set. That fast turf is set. Colston has a year left if that. Cooks and Stills are the future. Immediate PT for Cooks over Toon and Joe Morgan. Look at what Lance Moore did there at his peak and Cooks is twice the talent and 6 years younger or so. A lot to like about Cooks in this situation all around.

An interesting discussion of talent vs. opportunity - assuming you didn't have Cooks as #3 before the draft.

 

[Sabertooth]

Last night left the #3 pick holders with lots of questions

Is Beckham really worthy of the #3?

Did Cooks jump all the way up #3?

Benjamin the #1 WR in Car?

Any of the QBs good enough to be taken that high (start 1 QB leagues)?

And depending on format did Ebron landing in pass happy Det get bump to #3.

I don't see any of the other WRs being drafted getting bumped to #3, and maybe if a RB lands in a good spot but not sure if I can think of a spot that; in short pick #3 got hosed.

No way I take any of these guys over Sankey right now if the draft was today.

 

[duaneok66]

New Orleans spreads out the snaps more than anyone in the NFL. Can't see Cooks at #3 - I don't even like Sankey that much but I think he's a lock at #3 (some people think he can go first).

Greene stinks but he's still there, so he will get some carries. Sankey is missing some OTAs due to college but he will be at the rookie minicamp - he may start out behind other rookie RBs.

Will be interesting to see how drafts play out.

Also, I thought the Falcons would get a RB by now. I was wrong - surely they take one here in the 4th. Andre Williams and others are available.

 

[DaveL]

New Orleans spreads out the snaps more than anyone in the NFL. Can't see Cooks at #3 - I don't even like Sankey that much but I think he's a lock at #3 (some people think he can go first).

This is how I see it. If I'm sitting at #3, I'm taking whoever falls to me of Evans/Sankey/Watkins, and I'm pretty happy about it.

 

[gchip]

What are people doing at #3 in superflex/2QB leagues?

I'd assume JFF, Teddy, Cooks, Matthews, Sankey are there.

 

[KellysHeroes]

so whats been the #3 in drafts that have started

 

[corpcow]

In one draft I'm in, Hyde (??) went 1.02. Then it was Evans, Beckham and Cooks. Ebron went 1.06, and Sankey went 1.07.

16 teams, non-PPR, and we start 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and one flex. Interestingly, the league usually undervalues WRs.

 

[BoltzNBrew]

I took Ebron 1.03 in a standard PPR league. Several reasons why..... I didn't like the RB's that high. I also had 1.09 and was planning on taking a WR there, thought it would be Matthews or any number of WR in that tier. Ebron would not have dropped to 1.09. Result is I got Ebron and Beckham. I lucked out that RB went 1.04, 1.07 and 1.08 and Beckham fell into my lap. It couldn't have worked out better for me.

 

[Bruce Hammond]

Standard PPR, start 1-1-1-1 +4 flex. HA leagues have two separate 12 team conferences. Drafts are staggered a couple days apart rather than all starting simultaneously, so HA2 can look to see what HA1 did, etc.

HA1 (Hyper) 1 Watkins 2 Evans 3 Ebron 4 Beckham 5 Cooks 6 Adams 7 Sankey 8 Lee 9 Matthews 10 Robinson 11 Hyde 12 Sef-Jenkins

HA1 (Active) 1 Watkins 2 Evans 3 Ebron 4 Matthews 5 Beckham 6 Hyde 7 Adams 8 Cooks 9 Lee 10 Sankey 11 Benjamin 12 Robinson

HA2 (Hyper) 1 Watkins 2 Evans 3 Beckham 4 Ebron 5 Robinson 6 Cooks 7 Latimer 8 9 Matthews 10 Sankey 11 Hyde 12 Moncrief

HA2 (Active) 1 Watkins 2 Evans 3 Sankey 4 Cooks 5 Ebron 6 Beckham 7 Adams 8 Matthews 9 Hyde 10 Robinson 11 Manziel 12 Latimer

HA3 (Hyper) 1 Watkins 2 Evans 3 Ebron 4 Matthews

HA3 (Active) 1 Watkins 2 Cooks 3 Evans

HA4 and HA5 not started

 

[Warhogs]

so whats been the #3 in drafts that have started

I think format is critical in breaking out that next tier of players. Many leagues are moving away from requiring to start 2 RB and are moving to more flex spots and I think that is pushing up some of the WR value but in leagues where you must start 2 RB and can start as many as 3 or 4 I think these sorts of threads are pushing down the RB values too low. I am sitting at 1.03 in one league where I am mulling over Sankey, Ebron, Cooks and Beckham. As of right now I am still leaning toward Sankey due to the minimum starting requirement of 24 RB each week even though it is also PPR. I could use some TE help but I am just not sold that Ebron's value should be in the first half of round 1 and while I like Cooks and Beckham I just feel like the chance to draft Sankey who should be able to walk in and see 300 touches is too valuable in a league with this many starting RB.

 

[Khy]

I would put Hill in the first and Bortles in the second. People will take Manziel over Bortles due to the rushing yards etc.

I think Bortles is the only QB in this draft with a > 50% chance of being a future fantasy starting QB which is why I have him above that next group of less likely stud WR/RB. I think the rest of the QBs in this class are more likely to be fantasy QB2s and QB3s, or wash out completely.

I also think personally that Manziel will be hurt a lot due to style of play and height + build. And remember, if the news of today is accurate he's lost Gordon and they did not replace him in the draft. Gordon, from what I read from beat writer Mary Kay Cabot, can be gone indefinitely like Blackmon, not a one year ban. Hell, he might never be back for any length of time if he just keeps failing tests.

So right now how would you be ranking the rookies for dynasty?

1. Bortles

2. Manziel

3. ??

I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on Bridgewater. I honestly thought coming in whoever the Texans or Vikings snagged at potential "QB of the Future" would be the guy to snag. I'm loving everything about Bridgewater's surrounding cast, coaching staff and future. In terms of future surrounding casts at least, we know now that Rick Spielman will not hesitate to make the moves necessary to keep Bridgewater surrounded by talent. He'll be starting out the season with veteran QBs, WRs and the best RB in football to help him along the way. Not to mention Norv Turner coaching him as well. I'm fighting with myself between the three of them but the more and more I think about it, the more Bridgewater is sneaking up my board as my #1 QB in dynasty.

 

[thriftyrocker]

I think Bortles is the only QB in this draft with a > 50% chance of being a future fantasy starting QB which is why I have him above that next group of less likely stud WR/RB. I think the rest of the QBs in this class are more likely to be fantasy QB2s and QB3s, or wash out completely.

more Bridgewater is sneaking up my board as my #1 QB in dynasty.

I don't think Bortles has much of a chance at all at being a future fantasy starting QB. I think he has a > 50% chance of being Tannehill, but that's not super exciting in normal leagues. I think Manziel has a > 50% chance of putting up sporadic QB1 production and will be the most exciting QB to own and provide the best sell high opportunities.

In leagues where longevity counts, like Superflex and 16 team, I would favor Bridgewater. I still think he's the best QB and I agree he's in the best situation. It's a losing proposition though to bet on him becoming a difference maker in standard 12 tm 1QB leagues. Still could be worth a pick if he's there in the 3rd or 4th.

 

[Khy]

I think Bortles is the only QB in this draft with a > 50% chance of being a future fantasy starting QB which is why I have him above that next group of less likely stud WR/RB. I think the rest of the QBs in this class are more likely to be fantasy QB2s and QB3s, or wash out completely.

more Bridgewater is sneaking up my board as my #1 QB in dynasty.

I don't think Bortles has much of a chance at all at being a future fantasy starting QB. I think he has a > 50% chance of being Tannehill, but that's not super exciting in normal leagues. I think Manziel has a > 50% chance of putting up sporadic QB1 production and will be the most exciting QB to own and provide the best sell high opportunities.

In leagues where longevity counts, like Superflex and 16 team, I would favor Bridgewater. I still think he's the best QB and I agree he's in the best situation. It's a losing proposition though to bet on him becoming a difference maker in standard 12 tm 1QB leagues. Still could be worth a pick if he's there in the 3rd or 4th.

Sure, one of my leagues though is a 2QB league which shakes things up a lot being that I really only have one viable starter at the position on the team. So I almost have to make an early 1st round selection for a QB. I'm just thinking Bridgewater, at least on paper, looks like the best QB on the board when you take into account talent and situation. In 1QB drafts though I wouldn't dream of taking any of these guys in the first round though and second round would be pushing it obviously.

 

[Pwingles]

Im in a tough spot as well at 1.03

My roster is very thin at RB , so sankey seems nice. We are only required to start 1 rb, and can start 2 TE in a TE premi scoring league, 1.5 ppr for them so ebron has appeal too. Am iffy on cooks right now

 

[Warhogs]

Im in a tough spot as well at 1.03

My roster is very thin at RB , so sankey seems nice. We are only required to start 1 rb, and can start 2 TE in a TE premi scoring league, 1.5 ppr for them so ebron has appeal too. Am iffy on cooks right now

I'm not as high on Ebron as many are but in that format and only having to start 1 RB Ebron is certainly in the mix at that pick.

 

[Pwingles]

Im in a tough spot as well at 1.03

My roster is very thin at RB , so sankey seems nice. We are only required to start 1 rb, and can start 2 TE in a TE premi scoring league, 1.5 ppr for them so ebron has appeal too. Am iffy on cooks right now

I'm not as high on Ebron as many are but in that format and only having to start 1 RB Ebron is certainly in the mix at that pick.

Ya, me neither. But havent gotten a good offer to move back yet

 

[Noah Davis]

How would a 4 year rookie contract salary cap league (Reality Sports) affect the rookie pick value? I think it bumps values for immediate impact if you only hold player for 4 years....also significantly cheaper than vets.

 

[KellysHeroes]

How would a 4 year rookie contract salary cap league (Reality Sports) affect the rookie pick value? I think it bumps values for immediate impact if you only hold player for 4 years....also significantly cheaper than vets.

same for me, get to keep the player for 4 - 6 yrs (depending on if u taxi them), also a start 2 - 3 RB so I went Sankey. I believe hes the best all around RB, not the fastest but hes got good vision and should be ok in the NFL.