3 Way Tie (1 Viewer)

[broncofan13000]

3 teams in my league finish tied with equal amount of Victory points.

First tie breaker is H2H matchups.

Team 1 splits season series with Team 2.

Team 2 beats Team 3.

Team 3 beats Team 1.

Who is the worst team?

Or would you need to go to the 2nd tiebreaker (total points)?

thanks,

 

[thayman]

Do you have divisions? if they are in different divisions tie break in the division, then out of it.

 

[broncofan13000]

Do you have divisions? if they are in different divisions tie break in the division, then out of it.

We do have divisions.1 & 2 are in the same division (hence playing twice).Team 1 scored more total points then Team 2.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Go by record vs. the other two opponents.

Team 2 (2-1)

Team 3 (1-1)

Team 1 (1-2)

 

[thayman]

Do you have divisions? if they are in different divisions tie break in the division, then out of it.

We do have divisions.1 & 2 are in the same division (hence playing twice).Team 1 scored more total points then Team 2.

If it was me I would go 2,1,3 as a draft order. Use the div. tiebreaker first, team 1 wins over team 2, then team 3 beat team 1.

 

[glumpy]

Go by record vs. the other two opponents.Team 2 (2-1)Team 3 (1-1)Team 1 (1-2)

 

[valhallan]

Team 1 lost to both.

 

[TheBigDog]

Go by record vs. the other two opponents.Team 2 (2-1)Team 3 (1-1)Team 1 (1-2)

I say group head-to-head record is probably the most fair with a tie between 3 or more teams and no clearcut winner.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

it goes:

victory points

overall record

head to head

total points

division record

what say you all, now that you know the specifics...

& i am team 2. & someone else in the thread is team 1....

team 3 has the least toal points, followed by team 2 & then team 1.

hi bronco

 

[Sinn Fein]

I think most leagues have a rule that H2H only applies to 2 teams. If you do not have such a rule, then Team 1 is "worst" - but you should change the rule to only apply H2H when the teams have played an even number of games - or if there has been a season sweep by one of the teams.

 

[David Yudkin]

it goes:victory pointsoverall recordhead to headtotal pointsdivision recordwhat say you all, now that you know the specifics... & i am team 2. & someone else in the thread is team 1.... team 3 has the least toal points, followed by team 2 & then team 1. hi bronco

If you have a tiebreaker breakdown you should already have an answer.Are all 3 teams tied in victory points? If yes, move down.Are all 3 teams tied in overall record? If yes, move down.Are all 3 teams tied in head to head? If yes, move down.Are all 3 teams tied in total points? If yes, move down.Are all 3 teams tied in division record? In yes, then you have a problem.Eliminate one or both of the teams using this methodology. I believe you should only use head to head if all teams played the same number of games. So a team that went 3-1 should not have an advantage vs a team that went 2-1 because the schedule was not even.If you get to a tiebreaker that eliminates one team but not another, you may need to start back at the top of the list comparing 2 teams instead of 3. For example, you may not be able to use head to head for the reason I just explained but you may be able to use that if there are only 2 teams if they played each other.

 

[quickhands]

Do you have divisions? if they are in different divisions tie break in the division, then out of it.

We do have divisions.1 & 2 are in the same division (hence playing twice).Team 1 scored more total points then Team 2.

I am amazed that this wasn't planned on.round robin records mean ZERO IMO#1 Head to Head (no team eliminated)#2 divsional record (N/A)#3 Total pts scored#4 Most pts scored against

 

[DA RAIDERS]

it goes:victory pointsoverall recordhead to headtotal pointsdivision recordwhat say you all, now that you know the specifics... & i am team 2. & someone else in the thread is team 1.... team 3 has the least toal points, followed by team 2 & then team 1. hi bronco

If you have a tiebreaker breakdown you should already have an answer.Are all 3 teams tied in victory points? If yes, move down.Are all 3 teams tied in overall record? If yes, move down.Are all 3 teams tied in head to head? If yes, move down.Are all 3 teams tied in total points? If yes, move down.Are all 3 teams tied in division record? In yes, then you have a problem.Eliminate one or both of the teams using this methodology. I believe you should only use head to head if all teams played the same number of games. So a team that went 3-1 should not have an advantage vs a team that went 2-1 because the schedule was not even.If you get to a tiebreaker that eliminates one team but not another, you may need to start back at the top of the list comparing 2 teams instead of 3. For example, you may not be able to use head to head for the reason I just explained but you may be able to use that if there are only 2 teams if they played each other.

Do you have divisions? if they are in different divisions tie break in the division, then out of it.

We do have divisions.1 & 2 are in the same division (hence playing twice).Team 1 scored more total points then Team 2.

I am amazed that this wasn't planned on.round robin records mean ZERO IMO#1 Head to Head (no team eliminated)#2 divsional record (N/A)#3 Total pts scored#4 Most pts scored against

this is what was done. h2h was thrown out due to the 3 way tie & points were used for the seeding. 3-2-1

 

[broncofan13000]

I think most leagues have a rule that H2H only applies to 2 teams. If you do not have such a rule, then Team 1 is "worst" - but you should change the rule to only apply H2H when the teams have played an even number of games - or if there has been a season sweep by one of the teams.

This was the commish's answer to me. (i'm team 1, hi raiders :( ) Since this wasnt defined in the rules (that H2H needs a clean sweep in a 3 way) i didnt understand how i did not come up as the worst team.