3rd tier running backs (1 Viewer)

[timschochet]

I'm trying to read all the threads discussing each of these running backs, but what I'm really trying to do is compare them to each other. Here is a list of the guys I'm interested in:

Mark Ingram

Ahmed Bradshaw

Peyton Hills

LeGarrette Blount

Jahvid Best

Michael Turner

If all of these guys are on the board in the 3rd round when its time for you to draft (and assuming that you are intending to take here your RB1 or RB2) which one do you choose? Why? Who's next? Any and all thoughts would be helpful; my draft is Sunday and I have no idea at this point which direction to go in.

 

[Bamac]

PPR or no?

 

[timschochet]

Just for reference, I consider the guys mentioned in the OP 3rd tier running backs because I have two tiers above them:

Tier 1

Foster

Rice

Peterson

Charles

Johnson

Tier 2

McCoy

McFadden

Mendenhall

Forte

Jackson

Jones-Drew

Gore

 

[timschochet]

PPR or no?

No PPR for me.

 

[bigmiiiiike]

I'm trying to read all the threads discussing each of these running backs, but what I'm really trying to do is compare them to each other. Here is a list of the guys I'm interested in:Mark IngramAhmed BradshawPeyton HillsLeGarrette BlountJahvid BestMichael TurnerIf all of these guys are on the board in the 3rd round when its time for you to draft (and assuming that you are intending to take here your RB1 or RB2) which one do you choose? Why? Who's next? Any and all thoughts would be helpful; my draft is Sunday and I have no idea at this point which direction to go in.

If we're talking non-PPR, Turner won't be there in the 3rd, but if he is, take him. After Turner, I like Blount, Ingram, Hillis, Best, Bradshaw, in that order.

 

[TheFootballJesus]

Assuming it's non-PPR

1) Michael Turner

2) Peyton Hillis

3) Legarette Blount

3a) Mark Ingram

5) Ahmad Bradshaw

6) Jahvid Best

My thinking is Brandon Jacobs takes a lot more touches away from Ahmad Bradshaw than people anticipate and that Jahvid Best just doesn't hold up for the entire season

 

[timschochet]

Regarding Turner: Dodds has him ranked 18th, last on this list, and also marks him as a guy to avoid. I'm not sure why. On paper I tend to agree with the other posters here, because he should be guaranteed 250-300 carries. But maybe there is something we don't know...

 

[Warhogs]

For me:

Turner (by a wide margin over the other guys you listed).

Hillis (I am bothered by the fact he seemed to wear down, Hardesty there, and the fact that he seems more like a FB forced to carry the ball last year)

Blount (will face a much tougher road this year but he has the skills to be a very good RB)

Ingram (hate counting on rookies but I think he is the goods)

Bradshaw (really like this guy but not sure he can get many tds)

Best (I don't think he can handle a full load)

Not any real separation in this group (outside of Turner) and I might be more inclined to go another position and grab someone at RB the next round.

 

[timschochet]

Seems like Best has the most upside here. If Best can stay healthy (obviously a big if) then he will get 14-17 touches a game, and he could be this years' Jamaal Charles. What I'm thinking is that if I got lucky enough to get one of the Tier 1 running backs in the first round, I could afford to take a chance on a guy like Best as my RB2.

ETA- Of course, if you draft Best, you need to take Jerome Harrison at some point later in the draft.

 

[Insein]

Turner - Easily especially in non PPR. In fact, he should be at least tier 2 in non PPR.

Hillis - Trouble relying on him a 2nd time but looking at it objectively, there's no reason to think he can't do it again.

Blount - Looks strong and is still hungry.

Bradshaw - Even with Jacobs, Bradshaw will get 1200+ yards. TDs are hard to predict though.

Best - Should make a step forward but injuries are huge here.

Ingram - I don't trust rookies.

 

[djjosee]

Where would Greene fit in here?

 

[timschochet]

Where would Greene fit in here?

I've got Greene at the top of my 4th tier. Feel free to disagree though.

 

[Tanner9919]

I'm not sure I'd include some of those guys in tier 3.

Ingram? maybe.

Best? no.

in no particular order:

tier 1:

Rice

Foster

CJ

Mendenhall ( just look at his fantasy playoff schedule weeks' 11-16.juicy as they come.

Peterson

2:

Charles

Gore

Forte

MJD

McFadden

EDIT: Fred Jackson

3.

D. Williams

McCoy

Grant

Bradshaw

Blount

Ingram/Greene

I discount Best as anything more than a 3rd down back..Bradshaw and Blount will produce similar #'s to last season but I'd bank on Ryan Grant possibly poking into the top 10 RB category..

Hillis slowed at the end of 2010 and I think that's what'll happen to him this season..he's a decent RB but not a 3rd tier guy..

Turner has a lot of wear and tear on the legs, can he last a full 300+ carry season? doubtful.

 

[Defending Champs]

Not to derail completely, but how do you guys have the first three tiers? Just finished mine and thought I'd measure them up to yours.

Mine is non PPR though post yours with the side note of PPR/non.

TIA

 

[Gawain]

1) Michael Turner

2) Peyton Hillis

3) Mark Ingram

4) Ahmad Bradshaw

5) Legarette Blount

6) Jahvid Best

 

[TheFootballJesus]

I'm not sure I'd include some of those guys in tier 3.Ingram? maybe.Best? no.in no particular order:tier 1:RiceFosterCJMendenhall ( just look at his fantasy playoff schedule weeks' 11-16.juicy as they come.Peterson2:CharlesGoreForteMJDMcFadden3.D. WilliamsMcCoyGrantBradshawBlountIngram/GreeneI discount Best as anything more than a 3rd down back..Bradshaw and Blount will produce similar #'s to last season but I'd bank on Ryan Grant possibly poking into the top 10 RB category..Hillis slowed at the end of 2010 and I think that's what'll happen to him this season..he's a decent RB but not a 3rd tier guy..Turner has a lot of wear and tear on the legs, can he last a full 300+ carry season? doubtful.

Why so low on Shady Mccoy?

 

[Doug B]

Regarding Turner: Dodds has him ranked 18th, last on this list, and also marks him as a guy to avoid. I'm not sure why. On paper I tend to agree with the other posters here, because he should be guaranteed 250-300 carries. But maybe there is something we don't know...

If Dodds is as injury-averse as I am, then 18th among RBs is about right.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Michael Turner

Mark Ingram

Peyton Hills

Jahvid Best

Ahmed Bradshaw

LeGarrette Blount

 

[cheese]

For me, Turner and Hillis are their own tier.

Best/Ingram/Bradshaw/Blout is tougher to sort out. I probably will avoid this tier entirely if I can help it.

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

This reminds me of the 'Rank the top 6 QBs thread' where Romo was all but forgotten. Yes, keep writing off Best.

 

[tim_whatley]

I think Grant, Addai and DWill are also in that group, sans Turner who should be a level higher.

 

[GManiac]

Injury is a concern but If Best makes it through the majority of the season healthy, I believe he will produce big, or at least better than expected numbers. He has the skills for sure. His body is a concern but I think other highly regarded RB have had a similar or worse injury history and then have gone on to play relatively healthy, I'm thinking of McFadden here, Moreno to a lesser extent in recent history. Then guys like JStew who I think had worse injury problems yet still gets ranked high every year. I'm thinking Best with full time puts up McCoy 2010 numbers or about that.

 

[shortbow]

PPR:

Peyton Hills

Jahvid Best

Ahmed Bradshaw

Michael Turner

LeGarrette Blount

Mark Ingram

Standard:

Michael Turner

Ahmed Bradshaw

Peyton Hills

LeGarrette Blount

Jahvid Best

Mark Ingram

 

[Kenny Powers]

non-PPR

Michael Turner

LeGarrette Blount

Mark Ingram

Achmed Bradshaw

Peyton Hillis

Jahvid Best

 

[N Zone]

Mine are somewhat different so it's easier just to post my RB rankings as follows.

ppr

Adrian Peterson

Arian Foster

Chris Johnson

Darren McFadden

Jamaal Charles

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Ray Rice

LeSean McCoy

Steven Jackson

Maurice Jones-Drew

Frank Gore

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Rashard Mendenhall

Peyton Hillis

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Deangelo Williams

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Michael Turner

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Ahmad Bradshaw

Matt Forte

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Jahvid Best

Felix Jones

Mark Ingram RC

LaGarette Blount

Shonn Greene

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Beanie is in this tier now IMO.

I now take him ahead of Blount for sure. Toss up with Hillis and Best. Still take the other guys over Beanie

Ingram

Turner

Bradshaw

Hillis

Beanie

Best

Blount

 

[timschochet]

Beanie is in this tier now IMO.

I now take him ahead of Blount for sure. Toss up with Hillis and Best. Still take the other guys over Beanie

Ingram

Turner

Bradshaw

Hillis

Beanie

Best

Blount

Agreed. Beanie belongs here.

 

[rascal]

Assuming it's non-PPR1) Michael Turner2) Peyton Hillis3) Legarette Blount3a) Mark Ingram5) Ahmad Bradshaw6) Jahvid BestMy thinking is Brandon Jacobs takes a lot more touches away from Ahmad Bradshaw than people anticipate and that Jahvid Best just doesn't hold up for the entire season

But I would add Beanie.

 

[T with T]

Just for reference, I consider the guys mentioned in the OP 3rd tier running backs because I have two tiers above them:Tier 1FosterRice PetersonCharlesJohnsonTier 2McCoyMcFaddenMendenhallForteJacksonJones-DrewGore

Just wondering what Tier R. Matthews falls in bud??? I would say tier 2 but you don't have him in any of your 3.

 

[timschochet]

Just for reference, I consider the guys mentioned in the OP 3rd tier running backs because I have two tiers above them:Tier 1FosterRice PetersonCharlesJohnsonTier 2McCoyMcFaddenMendenhallForteJacksonJones-DrewGore

Just wondering what Tier R. Matthews falls in bud??? I would say tier 2 but you don't have him in any of your 3.

According to Dodds, he's below all of these in a 4th tier with Fred Jackson and Felix Jones (I have a feeling Felix should be higher.) The problem with Matthews is, of course, Tolbert.

 

[T with T]

Its funny that all these posters and no one said Matthews????? He was injured last year but showed he can put up numbers even when hurt... I think Matthews could be top 10 in ppr. Similar to what Mccoy, Rice did in their second years

 

[shortbow]

Its funny that all these posters and no one said Matthews????? He was injured last year but showed he can put up numbers even when hurt... I think Matthews could be top 10 in ppr. Similar to what Mccoy, Rice did in their second years

They run the ball a lot in San Diego, but not enough for this to happen. As long as Tolbert is in SD I doubt Mathews even comes close to top 25.

 

[whodeywhodey]

Speaking of top 25 --- no love for Fred Jackson? I love him at his ADP. He's not a sexy pick but would be an awesome RB2 or RB3 for where you can get him. He will get somewhere around 250 carries. Who else can you get with his skill set that late with those amount of carries?

 

[T with T]

Its funny that all these posters and no one said Matthews????? He was injured last year but showed he can put up numbers even when hurt... I think Matthews could be top 10 in ppr. Similar to what Mccoy, Rice did in their second years

They run the ball a lot in San Diego, but not enough for this to happen. As long as Tolbert is in SD I doubt Mathews even comes close to top 25.

Are you Kidding me, the Chargers already said that Matthews is the featured back, and tolbert will be a fill in player.. Looking at last year, Tolbert only had major production when matthews was out. I would def put Matthews in one of the first 3 tiers and who cares what dobbs says

 

[shortbow]

Its funny that all these posters and no one said Matthews????? He was injured last year but showed he can put up numbers even when hurt... I think Matthews could be top 10 in ppr. Similar to what Mccoy, Rice did in their second years

They run the ball a lot in San Diego, but not enough for this to happen. As long as Tolbert is in SD I doubt Mathews even comes close to top 25.

Are you Kidding me, the Chargers already said that Matthews is the featured back, and tolbert will be a fill in player.. Looking at last year, Tolbert only had major production when matthews was out. I would def put Matthews in one of the first 3 tiers and who cares what dobbs says

Lol, this is just as bad as the Charles crowd saying that Thomas Jones is only getting 100 carries...All ive been hearing as far as his workload the most anyone has said is 200-220 carries with none of the goal line or short yardage work. Ryan Mathews hasnt been given a shot to show on the field how good or bad he is, but Tolbert has and despite what every Mathews owner thinks, Tolbert is a NFL level bruiser that would get carries for any team he played on. I wouldnt be surprised that if Tolbert doesnt get a new contract before next season he goes to another team starts and is more successful than Mathews, the dude has Michael Turner talent.But thats never gonna happen, because Mathews isnt Tomlinson and why would they get rid of Michael Turner twice? Hes staying put and hes gonna be a big part of the run game.