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4,000 year wait for Eagles Season tickets (2 Viewers)

The way these things work are they keep names on the list forever...whether they move, die, or get tickets elsewhere. 10% of those names are probably not interested for one reason or another any more.

The Bucs have a supposed 80,000 person waiting list. A friend of mine called and put his name on the list, hoping for something within a year. He rec'd a call back in a week with seats available.

I personally cancelled my season tickets because there are so many single tickets available every week thru the ticket offices...even for sell-outs.

 
Actually, this is somewhat misleading.

Pretty much anyone had a shot at season tickets just a few years ago when they were selling tickets for the new stadium. Catch is you had to pay the Seat License and buy 5 years with tickets in advance. Mostly in the club box level, so they were the pricier seats. Took quite a while for them to sell out as I recall.

 
Actually, this is somewhat misleading.Pretty much anyone had a shot at season tickets just a few years ago when they were selling tickets for the new stadium. Catch is you had to pay the Seat License and buy 5 years with tickets in advance. Mostly in the club box level, so they were the pricier seats. Took quite a while for them to sell out as I recall.
We rolled the dice and gave up our tickets to avoid the seat licenses and then went ahead and signed up for tickets all over again. Ended up getting seats no problem in roughly the same location at the Linc where we had them at the Vet. Turned out so many of us [season ticket holders] called the Birds' seat license bluff, there was zero problem getting tickets that first year. There is a very long wait now. Even if I move to another part of the country, I will keep the tickets in my name and just sell them to others so I can always get them back at some point.
 
Giants have always(well, a long long time) been considerred one of the teams with the longest waiting list. Last I heard it was 7-9 years.

 
Green Bay...I signed my kids up in 2002 and they are #'s 57,089 & 57,090 on the list. They've moved up 300 spots a year on average....it's going to be a while.

 
Green Bay...I signed my kids up in 2002 and they are #'s 57,089 & 57,090 on the list. They've moved up 300 spots a year on average....it's going to be a while.
I read an article last year that said fans on the Packer season ticket waiting list since the mid 70's finally got them in 2006. I'm right around 30,000 and have been on the list for about 12 years. Had it not been for the renovation, I'd up near the 40,000's.
 
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Actually, this is somewhat misleading.

Pretty much anyone had a shot at season tickets just a few years ago when they were selling tickets for the new stadium. Catch is you had to pay the Seat License and buy 5 years with tickets in advance. Mostly in the club box level, so they were the pricier seats. Took quite a while for them to sell out as I recall.
We rolled the dice and gave up our tickets to avoid the seat licenses and then went ahead and signed up for tickets all over again. Ended up getting seats no problem in roughly the same location at the Linc where we had them at the Vet. Turned out so many of us [season ticket holders] called the Birds' seat license bluff, there was zero problem getting tickets that first year. There is a very long wait now. Even if I move to another part of the country, I will keep the tickets in my name and just sell them to others so I can always get them back at some point.
You hit the nail right on the head - the main reason for these long waits for season tickets is that people can make money selling tickets. I'd like to know what % of season tickets actually get used by the ticket owners, I'd be shocked if it's over half for the high demand teams.
 
Green Bay...I signed my kids up in 2002 and they are #'s 57,089 & 57,090 on the list. They've moved up 300 spots a year on average....it's going to be a while.
Fathers leave their tickets in their will down there.
 
Actually, this is somewhat misleading.

Pretty much anyone had a shot at season tickets just a few years ago when they were selling tickets for the new stadium. Catch is you had to pay the Seat License and buy 5 years with tickets in advance. Mostly in the club box level, so they were the pricier seats. Took quite a while for them to sell out as I recall.
We rolled the dice and gave up our tickets to avoid the seat licenses and then went ahead and signed up for tickets all over again. Ended up getting seats no problem in roughly the same location at the Linc where we had them at the Vet. Turned out so many of us [season ticket holders] called the Birds' seat license bluff, there was zero problem getting tickets that first year. There is a very long wait now. Even if I move to another part of the country, I will keep the tickets in my name and just sell them to others so I can always get them back at some point.
You hit the nail right on the head - the main reason for these long waits for season tickets is that people can make money selling tickets. I'd like to know what % of season tickets actually get used by the ticket owners, I'd be shocked if it's over half for the high demand teams.
I can't begin to guess what the percentage of unused season tickets is, but I can tell you that at least in my section, it's far higher than 50%. I would say, with confidence, that 75%-80% of the "regulars" are in our section each and every game, with as much as 100% for a good chunk of them. Again, I have no idea if a) my section or b) the Eagles are representative of the league's attendance trends on the whole, but Birds season ticket holders are regulars for sure.I have a buddy who inherited his grandfather's season tickets to RFK years ago and kept them when they moved to FedEx. My buddy has lived in Los Angeles going on 10 years, and still is a Redskins season ticket holder. He sells each ticket every year, but maintains the rights, "just in case" he comes back to D.C. some day.

 
Indiana University had a 26 year wait for season tickets before Bob Knight got fired. The next year there was virtually no list. A single catastrophic event like that can dry up the list. Their silly little projections are based on current supply and demand, which both can change.

 
When the Eagles moved from the Vet they gave each ST holder an option to buy a SBL/PSL. They were vague at the time and couldn't give you exact details on your seat but they mentioned that while you would still retain tickets, only people that bought the SBL would sit in the "lower bowl" and the first few rows of the upper deck. I passed on the SBL and while I have tickets, I am up very high. I regret very much that I didn't buy but at the time didn't think it would matter as we sat in the infamous 700 level at the Vet plus it is hard to justify $1700 each for only the same right to buy that we had at the Vet. Keep in mind that ticket brokers siezed the moment and bought any and all avaiable lower level seats and have sold them for top dollar since the Eagles have been mostly good since they opened the Linc. (smart move on their part)

With this structure in place, the Eagles only "own" the 40% on the non SBL seats. The 60 % SBL seats are owned by individuals and can be sold or traded for whatever anyone is willing to buy/sell. The team wants nothing to do with the SBL seats! You can do a search on Ebay for crazy prices! This means that the chance of getting a ST is really divided into 26,000 not 65,000. Of those who have non SBL seats, why would anyone give them back to the team when they can pick the games that they want and sell the rest to retain the seats in their name? I am now looking to buy a SBL seat license and will always keep my 2 seats in the upper deck to off set the cost of the 2 that I will use.

This is a bad system but the Eagles as well as all teams in the future will do the same thing. They don't care who owns the seats as long they are sold in advance which also spares them the headache of moving ST holders, adding/dropping accounts etc...I spoke to the Eagles last year and they told me less than 100 tickets were not renewed (death, loss of job?) so now figure how long it will take to move up on the list?

I find it funny that they have a "dog and pony" show for single game tickets on sale each summer using online and phone but there are so few tickets available that they pissed off more people than make happy. Strangely, minutes afterwards Stubhub is loaded with them. It is very sad for the "average" fan but unless you pony up $8000+ for two seats you will never get tickets.

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