Galileo
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4th of July parade shooting in Chicago suburb (1 Viewer)
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BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Pretty ironic that the latest mass shooting comes on a day we're celebrating "freedom."
Condolences to the families affected.
When will we do something?
Condolences to the families affected.
When will we do something?
Summer Wheat
Footballguy
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
This isn't Chicago. It's 30 miles away and has virtually no crime.56 people shot as of last night in Chicago this weekend. Unreal..
Galileo
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Summer Wheat
Footballguy
Shooter still at large.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Suspected shooter is in their late teens (18-20 yrs old)...seems to be the norm for mass shootings.
What I don't get is, they havent been alive long enough to be mad at the world to the point of committing these kinds of acts, yet it keeps happening.
It's a mad world.
What I don't get is, they havent been alive long enough to be mad at the world to the point of committing these kinds of acts, yet it keeps happening.
It's a mad world.
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tri-man 47
Footballguy
Yeah, Highland Park is a classic north shore, wealthy suburb …truly one of the last places in the Chicagoland region where you’d expect an incident like this. Just mind boggling and demoralizing.
krista4
Footballguy
I hope it won't end up being anti-Semitic, given the large Jewish population in that town. Or I guess it doesn't matter whether it is or not. Awful. Sorry, I'm not making sense.
The reports say a high powered rifle was recovered at the scene. If there is a serial number, would this be a case where a national database could potentially find the shooter faster? Or not? The police assume he's still armed.
Here the shooting on FB posted on reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CrimeInChicago/comments/vrcvc8/highland_park_shooting_capture_on_fb_live/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Here the shooting on FB posted on reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CrimeInChicago/comments/vrcvc8/highland_park_shooting_capture_on_fb_live/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
The teen mind is prone to extreme thoughts to begin with. The troubled teen mind can be particularly volatile, even over things that may not make any sense to adults.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
It makes sense …it’s a tragedy, for sure. Adding an anti-Semitic element just adds more complexity and another set of emotions.
HellToupee
Footballguy
Police looking for 22yo Awake the rapper -Robert Eugene "Bobby" Crimo III
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Another religious nut commiting mas murder in his god's name apparently
HellToupee
Footballguy
El Floppo
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
tri-man 47
Footballguy
A psychiatrist friend of mine posted on FB about an associate of his who has some knowledge of the family and shooter. The shooter is described as being “off.” Hardly technical, but some indication of a young man who probably had no business having access to a high-powered rifle.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Yep. Ditto. Had at least 5 friends and their families at the parade. Thankfully all ok. One friend’s SIL got shot in the ankle. She’s fine (mostly).
Galileo
Footballguy
Interesting. I sort of take a different perspective. Problems that a more experienced/mature adult may be able to shrug off can be significantly magnified by the mind of a younger person. A pimple can mean the end of the world to an adolescent. Younger folks also may not have developed the coping mechanisms yet to deal with life's issues.
jamny
Footballguy
Looking through some of his history and it doesn't seem like religion plays a part in his life.
His Dad ran for mayor in 2019 and lost with 28% of the vote.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Given Highland Park‘s demographics, I had the same thought. It’s evil no matter what, but it’s still sad that this thought comes to mind right?
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
So glad to hear that. Didn't figure you'd be there, but figured you might have folks who were. I'm glad everyone is OK. I haven't heard from everyone on my list yet, but the two remaining are those I'd think least likely to be there. Only one person I've been in touch with was actually at the parade with her family, and they are all OK.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Hope you hear back and get good news soon. Still waiting on a few others as well, but odds are low that anyone else we know was there. The whole thing makes me feel ill. We were in Wisconsin all weekend, nowhere near thankfully.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Fox News not even covering it. 
bigbottom
Footballguy
I think I saw a photo of her on the news getting medical attention from another attendee. Glad to hear she’s okay.
jamny
Footballguy
First the religion angle, now this? Fox was covering it all day without even talking about anything else.Fox News not even covering it.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
My son had a couple of friends at/in the parade, but they’re OK. I’m so sick of these shootings.
He’s in custody
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Turned to see their spin on it. Sat through two complete segments on unrelated things that spanned 20 minutes with no mention of it. Not even words on the screen mentioning it.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Glad they are ok tri. What’s really sad is that while the specifics are atypical for Chicago (parade, wealthy suburb) this outcome isn’t abnormal for a Chicago summer weekend. So many things wrong……
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Insoxicated
As usual:
this kid has been screaming from the rooftops about this well in advance but as usual we totally missed it: Weird how we fail to focus on this stuff... still
https://youtu.be/yB-1J1lPGS8
this kid has been screaming from the rooftops about this well in advance but as usual we totally missed it: Weird how we fail to focus on this stuff... still
https://youtu.be/yB-1J1lPGS8
jamny
Footballguy
They're doing pre-recorded Independence Day stuff for prime time. I'm sure they would cut in if anything developed but should they keep going if no new news is coming out?
Not retracting your religion comment?
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Not yet, no. There was tons of stuff on Twitter about it - not exactly the best source, I admit.
jamny
Footballguy
Just turned on CNN and there's a live concert by Pitbull...OMG!!!@Fox News not even covering it.
HellToupee
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
1. What do you suggest we do about disturbing posts and feeds?
2. What is the "cutoff" for when we take action, and what is that action?
3. Should we really be linking and clicking on these things to begin with? - fame is increasingly a motivation for some of these people. I know I am always torn about wanting to be informed, and giving them the exact thing they want. I like the book's idea of treating them like other types of crimes - don't say their name, post terrible pics of them, and focus more on the survivors and people who caught him.
Galileo
Footballguy
Who's to say they didn't?
Hypothetically speaking, let's say this guy lived in your neighborhood and you became aware of this video, maybe even knew him to be a bit "weird". What do you do about it? Serious question. Even if we suspect someone is capable of doing something drastic what can you do? Arrest him on the possibility of what he might do? Force him into some sort of therapy (perhaps against his will)? Trample on his rights to privacy with a pre-emptive search warrant based on him being weird?
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I know that it's not the PSF and many you purposely don't go over there.
All I will say is that one of the best reads I've had in awhile is THIS BOOK. They studied these types of shooters, talk about their common traits, and talk about solutions they would try out to help prevent more. Can't recommend the book enough for the info in it.
All I will say is that one of the best reads I've had in awhile is THIS BOOK. They studied these types of shooters, talk about their common traits, and talk about solutions they would try out to help prevent more. Can't recommend the book enough for the info in it.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
This is the rub. More times than not when I am reading it seems that somewhere in the process something couldn't be done for a variety of reasons even if people think they needed to be looked at more - can't hold them long enough at the hospital, can't do anything because they haven't committed a crime, can't force them into more therapy, etc..
Capella
Footballguy
I don’t think there is much you can do here, which is why we should have even slightly tougher gun laws, but this country is insane about their guns and would rather have these shootings than any rudimentary laws so here we are. Sucks.
