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I generally don't take advice from 8th and 9th place coaches. As a guy who won his dynasty league last year with Deangelo Williams on his roster my advice would be to aquire Williams in all formats. Williams is the real deal, all of the Stewart hype addicts are going to be sorely disappointed.
That's the direction I'm leaning as well, and why I responded as I did to Code-Money. There are precious few players who have the upside to justify rostering in a small redraft roster, but I'll definitely be using a 7th-8th round pick on Deangelo this season after someone uses a 4th-5th rounder to snag Stewart. In regards to dynasty format, which was the league type Code-Money suggested 'cutting ties' with Deangelo in, that format is typically perfect for shelving a guy like Deangelo. I'd liken Deangelo's prospects to those of Priest Holmes, who showed flashes but not enough 'load carrying' ability to deter Baltimore from selecting Jamal Lewis. After the team was committed to Lewis, it let Priest walk away and the talent was taken advantage of elsewhere. Honestly, I'd love Code-Money to post all of the players he'd roster after 'cutting ties' with Deangelo Williams. 
Williams is a awesome value this year. He is a first round RB who will be given every shot to succeed, everyone is down on him for some reason, low value with high payoff is a serious buy in my opinion. Can he fail, sure, I think it is far more likely he will succeed however. People are baggin on him because his team took a often injured goal line back when they only had one other running back on the roster. Please.I have heard Williams speak on the radio and I am in the camp that Williams knows that this is his opportunity and he is fully intending to make the most of it. I saw him play in college and I have no reason to believe he doesn't have the skills to match his determination.That's the direction I'm leaning as well, and why I responded as I did to Code-Money. There are precious few players who have the upside to justify rostering in a small redraft roster, but I'll definitely be using a 7th-8th round pick on Deangelo this season after someone uses a 4th-5th rounder to snag Stewart. In regards to dynasty format, which was the league type Code-Money suggested 'cutting ties' with Deangelo in, that format is typically perfect for shelving a guy like Deangelo. I'd liken Deangelo's prospects to those of Priest Holmes, who showed flashes but not enough 'load carrying' ability to deter Baltimore from selecting Jamal Lewis. After the team was committed to Lewis, it let Priest walk away and the talent was taken advantage of elsewhere. Honestly, I'd love Code-Money to post all of the players he'd roster after 'cutting ties' with Deangelo Williams.
Gee, I wonder why.Williams is a awesome value this year. He is a first round RB who will be given every shot to succeed, everyone is down on him for some reasonThat's the direction I'm leaning as well, and why I responded as I did to Code-Money. There are precious few players who have the upside to justify rostering in a small redraft roster, but I'll definitely be using a 7th-8th round pick on Deangelo this season after someone uses a 4th-5th rounder to snag Stewart. In regards to dynasty format, which was the league type Code-Money suggested 'cutting ties' with Deangelo in, that format is typically perfect for shelving a guy like Deangelo. I'd liken Deangelo's prospects to those of Priest Holmes, who showed flashes but not enough 'load carrying' ability to deter Baltimore from selecting Jamal Lewis. After the team was committed to Lewis, it let Priest walk away and the talent was taken advantage of elsewhere. Honestly, I'd love Code-Money to post all of the players he'd roster after 'cutting ties' with Deangelo Williams.
:( SeriouslyThey didnt take Stewart because they were enamored with their running gameGee, I wonder why.Williams is a awesome value this year. He is a first round RB who will be given every shot to succeed, everyone is down on him for some reason
Gee, I wonder why.Williams is a awesome value this year. He is a first round RB who will be given every shot to succeed, everyone is down on him for some reason
Yeah they took him because they had two tailbacks on the roster if you count Toefield as a tailback. I guess there is only one reason to take a back and not having enough rb on the roster isnt it then.By all means take Stewart before Williams in your draft, that will work out well for you.Gee, I wonder why.Williams is a awesome value this year. He is a first round RB who will be given every shot to succeed, everyone is down on him for some reason
Honestly, I'd love Code-Money to post all of the players he'd roster after 'cutting ties' with Deangelo Williams.
Stop it! Some of us still have drafts to complete yet.Yeah they took him because they had two tailbacks on the roster if you count Toefield as a tailback. I guess there is only one reason to take a back and not having enough rb on the roster isnt it then.By all means take Stewart before Williams in your draft, that will work out well for you.Gee, I wonder why.Williams is a awesome value this year. He is a first round RB who will be given every shot to succeed, everyone is down on him for some reason
You dont have to be a genius to know they took Stewart because they want a physical running game and they didnt have a physical running back on the team. Are you guranteeing Williams out-performs Stewart this year?Yeah they took him because they had two tailbacks on the roster if you count Toefield as a tailback. I guess there is only one reason to take a back and not having enough rb on the roster isnt it then.By all means take Stewart before Williams in your draft, that will work out well for you.Gee, I wonder why.Williams is a awesome value this year. He is a first round RB who will be given every shot to succeed, everyone is down on him for some reason
Honestly, I'd love Code-Money to post all of the players he'd roster after 'cutting ties' with Deangelo Williams.
Williams a Major Player in the offense
As a DWill owner in multiple dynasty's, I agree. To me, Fox is a friggin idiot.
Anyone remember what T.J. Duckett ran?I need to go add "40 time" to that "fnatasy football cliches" thread.
Yup! It's worth overpaying for Stewart right now.
Dude's stock is only gonna go up. What would you have given to get the Jamal Lewis that replaced that Priest Holmes, with hindsight being 20/20 of course. 
Yeah, but Duckett has always been a #####.
Is that sarcasm? I probably would have preferred to have had Priest...Yup! It's worth overpaying for Stewart right now.Dude's stock is only gonna go up. What would you have given to get the Jamal Lewis that replaced that Priest Holmes, with hindsight being 20/20 of course.
I was saying, more or less, 'what would you have paid to get Jamal Lewis whether you already had Priest or not?' Not 'which one would you prefer.'Is that sarcasm? I probably would have preferred to have had Priest...Yup! It's worth overpaying for Stewart right now.
No. But I call it 50-50 odds that he does.You dont have to be a genius to know they took Stewart because they want a physical running game and they didnt have a physical running back on the team. Are you guranteeing Williams out-performs Stewart this year?Yeah they took him because they had two tailbacks on the roster if you count Toefield as a tailback. I guess there is only one reason to take a back and not having enough rb on the roster isnt it then.By all means take Stewart before Williams in your draft, that will work out well for you.Gee, I wonder why.Williams is a awesome value this year. He is a first round RB who will be given every shot to succeed, everyone is down on him for some reason
Honestly, I'd love Code-Money to post all of the players he'd roster after 'cutting ties' with Deangelo Williams.
Williams a Major Player in the offense
That's with the benefit of hindsight. Big backs with good 40 times seem to attract lots of hype and wishful thinking."Carolina spends high draft pick on RB, incumbent RB's starting job in jeopardy."
I like Stewart longterm, but not this season. Being limited during rookie training camp has to delay his development, and as a result his performance probably suffers, assuming he gets to 100% to begin with. I'm buying Stewart for dynasty but Deangelo in redraft.
Yeah, well these same people thought David Carr was an NFL QB and gave him like $5 mil to suck like he always has. We see how good they are at evaluating talent.Gee, I wonder why.Williams is a awesome value this year. He is a first round RB who will be given every shot to succeed, everyone is down on him for some reason
Of course not, Williams could always get hurt and it is possible that Stewart could be healthy sometime later in the season with some understanding of the play book and be able to steal play time from Toefield. In which case if Williams is out for the year then Stewart may compile enough short yardage runs to theoretically pass Williams if DeAngelo plays very little.Guarantee no, but it is very very likely that Williams will out perform the rookie with a bad toe.You dont have to be a genius to know they took Stewart because they want a physical running game and they didnt have a physical running back on the team. Are you guranteeing Williams out-performs Stewart this year?Yeah they took him because they had two tailbacks on the roster if you count Toefield as a tailback. I guess there is only one reason to take a back and not having enough rb on the roster isnt it then.By all means take Stewart before Williams in your draft, that will work out well for you.Gee, I wonder why.Williams is a awesome value this year. He is a first round RB who will be given every shot to succeed, everyone is down on him for some reason
Honestly, I'd love Code-Money to post all of the players he'd roster after 'cutting ties' with Deangelo Williams.
Williams a Major Player in the offense
Shader's top 10 running backs currently include, in no particular order:1. DeAngelo Williams2. Chris Johnson3. 4.5.6.7.8.9.10.Yes, I'm curious who the rest are.
Earnest Graham finished 8th in my ppr league last year. He never said he's picking them in the 1st 2 rounds, just that he thinks they finish top 10.Shader's top 10 running backs currently include, in no particular order:1. DeAngelo Williams2. Chris Johnson3. 4.5.6.7.8.9.10.Yes, I'm curious who the rest are.
Earnest Graham finished 8th in my ppr league last year. He never said he's picking them in the 1st 2 rounds, just that he thinks they finish top 10.Shader's top 10 running backs currently include, in no particular order:1. DeAngelo Williams2. Chris Johnson3. 4.5.6.7.8.9.10.Yes, I'm curious who the rest are.
I never mentioned anything about him saying those running backs were being picked in the first two rounds. He's stated in separate threads that both Chris Johnson and DeAngelo Williams were going to finish as top 10 running backs. I'm simply curious what other running backs he feels will end in the top ten as his list is off to a very bold start.I'm sorry. I thought you were saying that's ridiculous, and just thought I'd point out the Graham thing.Earnest Graham finished 8th in my ppr league last year. He never said he's picking them in the 1st 2 rounds, just that he thinks they finish top 10.Shader's top 10 running backs currently include, in no particular order:1. DeAngelo Williams2. Chris Johnson3. 4.5.6.7.8.9.10.Yes, I'm curious who the rest are.I never mentioned anything about him saying those running backs were being picked in the first two rounds. He's stated in separate threads that both Chris Johnson and DeAngelo Williams were going to finish as top 10 running backs. I'm simply curious what other running backs he feels will end in the top ten as his list is off to a very bold start.
Ok, I'm sorry is my top ten not the generic standard top ten that you see on every internet site around? Let me see if I got this...1. LT2. ADP3. Westbrook4. GoreAm I on the right track?Every year there are huge surprises. CJ and Deangelo are this year's surprises. I would also put Mcfadden in my top ten if you're wondering.It's hilarious to me how EVERY SINGLE YEAR there is an in-stone consensus of the top ten running backs and the consensus always falls on it's face.CJ, DWill and Dmac. Save the post and see me in January. Barring injury, I'm confident in all 3.Shader's top 10 running backs currently include, in no particular order:1. DeAngelo Williams2. Chris Johnson3. 4.5.6.7.8.9.10.Yes, I'm curious who the rest are.
If you want another BOLD prediction, in PPR leagues, CJ will finish top 5.Ok, I'm sorry is my top ten not the generic standard top ten that you see on every internet site around? Let me see if I got this...1. LT2. ADP3. Westbrook4. GoreAm I on the right track?Every year there are huge surprises. CJ and Deangelo are this year's surprises. I would also put Mcfadden in my top ten if you're wondering.It's hilarious to me how EVERY SINGLE YEAR there is an in-stone consensus of the top ten running backs and the consensus always falls on it's face.CJ, DWill and Dmac. Save the post and see me in January. Barring injury, I'm confident in all 3.Shader's top 10 running backs currently include, in no particular order:1. DeAngelo Williams2. Chris Johnson3. 4.5.6.7.8.9.10.Yes, I'm curious who the rest are.
I like it. In some aspects, Deangelo reminds me of Preist Holmes. He's identical in size, has the quickness and shiftiness. If he can block and run well between the tackles, the yardage will come. I won't predict 20+ TDs, but with this huge line they have, Williams has a chance to succeed. He may need something to happen to Stewart to put up top ten numbers. But, given Stewart's already got an issue, it's not like it'd be a shocker if he missed time.Ok, I'm sorry is my top ten not the generic standard top ten that you see on every internet site around? Let me see if I got this...1. LT2. ADP3. Westbrook4. GoreAm I on the right track?Every year there are huge surprises. CJ and Deangelo are this year's surprises. I would also put Mcfadden in my top ten if you're wondering.It's hilarious to me how EVERY SINGLE YEAR there is an in-stone consensus of the top ten running backs and the consensus always falls on it's face.CJ, DWill and Dmac. Save the post and see me in January. Barring injury, I'm confident in all 3.Shader's top 10 running backs currently include, in no particular order:1. DeAngelo Williams2. Chris Johnson3. 4.5.6.7.8.9.10.Yes, I'm curious who the rest are.
Chances are he wont be in long. Most coaches are always cautious with their starting RB's if they arent 100%. I have no doubt stewart will be the starting rb for the panthers sooner than later.Stewart should play in their next preseason game, which airs tonight on Fox, 8 est.
Regardless, I'm watching every second of that game. And we'll get to see Toefield see some action!Chances are he wont be in long. Most coaches are always cautious with their starting RB's if they arent 100%. I have no doubt stewart will be the starting rb for the panthers sooner than later.Stewart should play in their next preseason game, which airs tonight on Fox, 8 est.
I doubt he plays long either if he plays at all tonight. There are a lot of players out tonight such as Gary Barnidge (glute), Chris Gamble (hamstring), D.J. Hackett (toe), Chris Harris (groin), Ken Lucas (nose), Ryne Robinson (knee), Dante Rosario (hamstring), Ian Scott (knee), Steve Smith (concussion), and Dwayne Jarrett (bruised knee).Chances are he wont be in long. Most coaches are always cautious with their starting RB's if they arent 100%. I have no doubt stewart will be the starting rb for the panthers sooner than later.Stewart should play in their next preseason game, which airs tonight on Fox, 8 est.
Why would they want to make another team better? That doesn't make much sense.
Ah, that was classic. Thank you for causing me to cough some Mountain Dew all over my desk.Brutis said:Chances are he wont be in long. Most coaches are always cautious with their starting RB's if they arent 100%. I have no doubt stewart will be the starting rb for the panthers sooner than later.sholditch said:Stewart should play in their next preseason game, which airs tonight on Fox, 8 est.
This whole forum is just too in love with Stewart. He had a great college career, and he has the prototypical size. I have no doubt in the future, he'll be a very good running back, both real life and fantasy. But people give Deangelo Williams NO chance at anything. Everyone just wants to assume Stewart jumps in and starts. There's no question with people on this board, despite the fact the coaches haven't said anything one way or the other. It's not even considered an opinion anymore, it's pure fact."Most coaches are always cautious with their starting running backs if they're not 100%" He hasn't even played a snap of pre-season football yet, let alone a real game. He's been limited all training camp long. Deangelo Williams has an excellent outing, and yet you still post it as that. With no real basis.Can we take the bias out folks?NopeDayne wasn't built like Stew or had his speed. Good try thoSinrj said:
Considering how Deangelo couldnt beat out deshawn foster in 2 years for the starting job, Deshawn leaves and goes to SF while Carolina then drafts Stewart 13th overall in the draft. You cant see how most would assume carolina has plans for stewart other than backing up Deangelo?Brutis said:Chances are he wont be in long. Most coaches are always cautious with their starting RB's if they arent 100%. I have no doubt stewart will be the starting rb for the panthers sooner than later.sholditch said:Stewart should play in their next preseason game, which airs tonight on Fox, 8 est.This whole forum is just too in love with Stewart. He had a great college career, and he has the prototypical size. I have no doubt in the future, he'll be a very good running back, both real life and fantasy. But people give Deangelo Williams NO chance at anything. Everyone just wants to assume Stewart jumps in and starts.NopeDayne wasn't built like Stew or had his speed. Good try thoSinrj said:
I can't see how no one is considering it a competition when:Stewart's toe hasn't been 100%.He's been limited all training camp.He hasn't taken a single snap.Deangelo looked GREAT in his first outing.The reason Deangelo didn't get rid of Foster has nothing to do with talent. I just love that you post Stewart as the starter as if it's pure fact. Most coaches don't risk their injured players in preseason period pal, starters or not. You just wanted a spot to say Stewart's definitely the starter. And as of right now, you know that's not the case. He may be named the starter. But who was number one on the depth charts released to date? Stewart's going to have to earn it, they're not just going to hand it to him. And thus far, Deangelo hasn't made it a cake walk for him.Considering how Deangelo couldnt beat out deshawn foster in 2 years for the starting job, Deshawn leaves and goes to SF while Carolina then drafts Stewart 13th overall in the draft. You cant see how most would assume carolina has plans for stewart other than backing up Deangelo?Brutis said:Chances are he wont be in long. Most coaches are always cautious with their starting RB's if they arent 100%. I have no doubt stewart will be the starting rb for the panthers sooner than later.sholditch said:Stewart should play in their next preseason game, which airs tonight on Fox, 8 est.
This whole forum is just too in love with Stewart. He had a great college career, and he has the prototypical size. I have no doubt in the future, he'll be a very good running back, both real life and fantasy. But people give Deangelo Williams NO chance at anything. Everyone just wants to assume Stewart jumps in and starts.NopeDayne wasn't built like Stew or had his speed. Good try thoSinrj said:
This will be a fun thread to bump in a couple of weeks.I can't see how no one is considering it a competition when:Stewart's toe hasn't been 100%.He's been limited all training camp.He hasn't taken a single snap.Deangelo looked GREAT in his first outing.The reason Deangelo didn't get rid of Foster has nothing to do with talent. I just love that you post Stewart as the starter as if it's pure fact. Most coaches don't risk their injured players in preseason period pal, starters or not. You just wanted a spot to say Stewart's definitely the starter. And as of right now, you know that's not the case. He may be named the starter. But who was number one on the depth charts released to date? Stewart's going to have to earn it, they're not just going to hand it to him. And thus far, Deangelo hasn't made it a cake walk for him.Considering how Deangelo couldnt beat out deshawn foster in 2 years for the starting job, Deshawn leaves and goes to SF while Carolina then drafts Stewart 13th overall in the draft. You cant see how most would assume carolina has plans for stewart other than backing up Deangelo?Brutis said:Chances are he wont be in long. Most coaches are always cautious with their starting RB's if they arent 100%. I have no doubt stewart will be the starting rb for the panthers sooner than later.sholditch said:Stewart should play in their next preseason game, which airs tonight on Fox, 8 est.
This whole forum is just too in love with Stewart. He had a great college career, and he has the prototypical size. I have no doubt in the future, he'll be a very good running back, both real life and fantasy. But people give Deangelo Williams NO chance at anything. Everyone just wants to assume Stewart jumps in and starts.NopeDayne wasn't built like Stew or had his speed. Good try thoSinrj said:
I mean. Can you at least give me some legitimate reason you think they're just going to hand your buddy the job? He's going to be limited all camp long, he's going to play very little in the pre-season, and then week 1, he's going to be the lead back, when he has another talented back that is healthy, and performing very well? Please, watch the game tonight, and tell me something about both backs.From what I saw of Deangelo in the last game, he was sharp. He was making great cuts, hitting the hole hard, breaking tackles, getting his head and shoulders low on the goal line. I can't say Stewart did any of that. If he comes out and looks sharp tonight, I'll believe he might be the lead back. But, if he comes out and goes 6 for 12, and looks sluggish...This will be a fun thread to bump in a couple of weeks.I can't see how no one is considering it a competition when:Stewart's toe hasn't been 100%.He's been limited all training camp.He hasn't taken a single snap.Deangelo looked GREAT in his first outing.The reason Deangelo didn't get rid of Foster has nothing to do with talent. I just love that you post Stewart as the starter as if it's pure fact. Most coaches don't risk their injured players in preseason period pal, starters or not. You just wanted a spot to say Stewart's definitely the starter. And as of right now, you know that's not the case. He may be named the starter. But who was number one on the depth charts released to date? Stewart's going to have to earn it, they're not just going to hand it to him. And thus far, Deangelo hasn't made it a cake walk for him.Considering how Deangelo couldnt beat out deshawn foster in 2 years for the starting job, Deshawn leaves and goes to SF while Carolina then drafts Stewart 13th overall in the draft. You cant see how most would assume carolina has plans for stewart other than backing up Deangelo?Brutis said:Chances are he wont be in long. Most coaches are always cautious with their starting RB's if they arent 100%. I have no doubt stewart will be the starting rb for the panthers sooner than later.sholditch said:Stewart should play in their next preseason game, which airs tonight on Fox, 8 est.This whole forum is just too in love with Stewart. He had a great college career, and he has the prototypical size. I have no doubt in the future, he'll be a very good running back, both real life and fantasy. But people give Deangelo Williams NO chance at anything. Everyone just wants to assume Stewart jumps in and starts.NopeDayne wasn't built like Stew or had his speed. Good try thoSinrj said:
