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A Mass knife fight between all the Presidents (1 Viewer)

I like the Civil War guys teaming up during the early stages. A Grant/Hayes/Garfield trio would do some serious damage.

 
5. W.H. Harrison - **SLEEPER ALERT** take away the fluke death after 30 days in office, he was a frontier Indian fighter
was sick his entire term. probably won't even be able to stand up in the arena
The rules state:
o Every president is in the best physical and mental condition they were ever in throughout the course of their presidency. Fatal maladies have been cured, but any lifelong conditions or chronic illnesses (e.g. FDR’s polio) remain.
So I assume Harrison would be healthy?
 
Every president is in the best physical and mental condition they were ever in throughout the course of their presidency.
I think most of you are forgetting this part. Lincoln wasn't wrasslin anyone in his 50's (which is like our 60's now).

Obama in great shape? he's a smoker. That plus most of the presidents would resent him being a president (after all most owned his kind) and gang up on him...

I know W is a buffoon, but he was probably in the best shape of any sitting president and plus he's a weasel. That plus the obvious help from an ex CIA spook in his dad and George W. could take this thing...

 
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Every president is in the best physical and mental condition they were ever in throughout the course of their presidency.
I think most of you are forgetting this part. Lincoln wasn't wrasslin anyone in his 50's (which is like our 60's now).

Obama in great shape? he's a smoker. That plus most of the presidents would resent him being a president (after all most owned his kind) and gang up on him...

I know W is a buffoon, but he was probably in the best shape of any sitting president and plus he's a weasel. That plus the obvious help from an ex CIA spook in his dad and George W. could take this thing...
I hadn't paid attention to that rule. An old dude like Reagan would get whacked in the first five minutes of battle. Need to look at how old the different Presidents were during their administrations.
 
Every president is in the best physical and mental condition they were ever in throughout the course of their presidency.
I think most of you are forgetting this part. Lincoln wasn't wrasslin anyone in his 50's (which is like our 60's now).

Obama in great shape? he's a smoker. That plus most of the presidents would resent him being a president (after all most owned his kind) and gang up on him...

I know W is a buffoon, but he was probably in the best shape of any sitting president and plus he's a weasel. That plus the obvious help from an ex CIA spook in his dad and George W. could take this thing...
Obama's not a heavy smoker, and plays basketball regularly. He'll do just fine for a long time, into the Top 10, until the inevitable mob of earlier-era/southern-state presidents do indeed gang up on him.

Nixon will die by Ford's hand. Like Wormtongue shanking Saruman.

 
Lincoln was recognized as a physical freak even among rough and tumble frontiersmen who were no strangers to feats of strength and fighting.

Abraham Lincoln's physical strength has become legendary. One of his fellow townsmen at New Salem, R. B. Rutledge, a brother of the storied "Ann," recalls this quality of the young Lincoln. Trials of strength were very common among the pioneers. Lifting weights, as heavy timbers piled one upon another, was a favorite pastime, and no workman in the neighborhood could at all cope with Mr. Lincoln in this direction. I have seen him frequently take a barrel of whisky by the chimes and lift it up to his face as if to drink out of the bunghole. This feat he could accomplish with the greatest ease. I never saw him taste or drink a drop of any kind of spirituous liquors. R. B. RUTLEDGE TO HERNDON, OCTOBER 1866.
Biographer Alonzo McDonald wrote of an incident during his Lincoln's first legislative election: "A crowd of voters that had collected at Papsville, getting full of whiskey and enthusiasm, began a general fight. Among those who were roughly handled was a follower of the New Salem candidate. Jumping from the platform, Lincoln rushed through the melee, seized his friend's assailant as if to make him 'walk Spanish,' tossed him off ten feet or so, resumed his place on the stand, and calmly began his little speech.
A famous part of the Lincoln legend is Mr. Lincoln's wrestling match with Jack Armstrong of the Clary's Grove boys. "This was the turning point in Lincoln's life," attorney John T. Stuart told a Columbus, Ohio newspaper reporter in 1860 - thus determining its place in the Lincoln mythology.29 Biographer Benjamin Thomas wrote that the fight gave Mr. Lincoln "the reputation for courage and strength that was so essential to success on the frontier, and convinced his associates that he 'belonged.'" Historian Douglas L. Wilson wrote an extensive analysis of fight in Honor's Voice: The Clary's Grove boys, Stuart explained, were the regulators of the neighborhood and 'took it upon themselves to try the mettle of every new comer and ascertain what sort of stuff he was made of.' But Lincoln had proved an exceptional case, and it didn't take Armstrong long, according to Stuart, 'to discover that he had got hold of the wrong customer, and when it was evident that Lincoln was getting the better of their champion, the whole band pitched in and gave Lincoln several blows which had no very salutary effect on the strength of his legs. Lincoln however took all this in perfect good humor, and by laughing and joining displayed such an excellent disposition that he at once won their hearts and was invited to become one of the company.
I like Lincoln over Jackson in the finals.
 
Lincoln was recognized as a physical freak even among rough and tumble frontiersmen who were no strangers to feats of strength and fighting.

Abraham Lincoln's physical strength has become legendary. One of his fellow townsmen at New Salem, R. B. Rutledge, a brother of the storied "Ann," recalls this quality of the young Lincoln. Trials of strength were very common among the pioneers. Lifting weights, as heavy timbers piled one upon another, was a favorite pastime, and no workman in the neighborhood could at all cope with Mr. Lincoln in this direction. I have seen him frequently take a barrel of whisky by the chimes and lift it up to his face as if to drink out of the bunghole. This feat he could accomplish with the greatest ease. I never saw him taste or drink a drop of any kind of spirituous liquors. R. B. RUTLEDGE TO HERNDON, OCTOBER 1866.
Biographer Alonzo McDonald wrote of an incident during his Lincoln's first legislative election: "A crowd of voters that had collected at Papsville, getting full of whiskey and enthusiasm, began a general fight. Among those who were roughly handled was a follower of the New Salem candidate. Jumping from the platform, Lincoln rushed through the melee, seized his friend's assailant as if to make him 'walk Spanish,' tossed him off ten feet or so, resumed his place on the stand, and calmly began his little speech.
A famous part of the Lincoln legend is Mr. Lincoln's wrestling match with Jack Armstrong of the Clary's Grove boys. "This was the turning point in Lincoln's life," attorney John T. Stuart told a Columbus, Ohio newspaper reporter in 1860 - thus determining its place in the Lincoln mythology.29 Biographer Benjamin Thomas wrote that the fight gave Mr. Lincoln "the reputation for courage and strength that was so essential to success on the frontier, and convinced his associates that he 'belonged.'" Historian Douglas L. Wilson wrote an extensive analysis of fight in Honor's Voice: The Clary's Grove boys, Stuart explained, were the regulators of the neighborhood and 'took it upon themselves to try the mettle of every new comer and ascertain what sort of stuff he was made of.' But Lincoln had proved an exceptional case, and it didn't take Armstrong long, according to Stuart, 'to discover that he had got hold of the wrong customer, and when it was evident that Lincoln was getting the better of their champion, the whole band pitched in and gave Lincoln several blows which had no very salutary effect on the strength of his legs. Lincoln however took all this in perfect good humor, and by laughing and joining displayed such an excellent disposition that he at once won their hearts and was invited to become one of the company.
I like Lincoln over Jackson in the finals.
Yeah good thing nobody mentioned Lincoln's wrestling ability already.
 
Need to look at how old the different Presidents were during their administrations.
wikipedia allows you to sort by age. People betting on Buchanan or George H.W. Bush or even Andrew Jackson should probably reconsider.
Teddy coming in as the youngest at inauguration. Bump Teddy.
In all leagues.
But if you take away the charge up San Juan Hill his KPG drops big time.

 
Need to look at how old the different Presidents were during their administrations.
wikipedia allows you to sort by age. People betting on Buchanan or George H.W. Bush or even Andrew Jackson should probably reconsider.
Teddy coming in as the youngest at inauguration. Bump Teddy.
In all leagues.
But if you take away the charge up San Juan Hill his KPG drops big time.
So what. Take away that Lincoln was still technicaly POTUS right after he got shot dead & his rating goes way up.
 
Need to look at how old the different Presidents were during their administrations.
wikipedia allows you to sort by age. People betting on Buchanan or George H.W. Bush or even Andrew Jackson should probably reconsider.
Teddy coming in as the youngest at inauguration. Bump Teddy.
In all leagues.
But if you take away the charge up San Juan Hill his KPG drops big time.
So what. Take away that Lincoln was still technicaly POTUS right after he got shot dead & his rating goes way up.
All I know is that someone shot Lincoln, and he died. Someone shot Teddy, and he gave a speech.
 
Lincoln was recognized as a physical freak even among rough and tumble frontiersmen who were no strangers to feats of strength and fighting.

Abraham Lincoln's physical strength has become legendary. One of his fellow townsmen at New Salem, R. B. Rutledge, a brother of the storied "Ann," recalls this quality of the young Lincoln. Trials of strength were very common among the pioneers. Lifting weights, as heavy timbers piled one upon another, was a favorite pastime, and no workman in the neighborhood could at all cope with Mr. Lincoln in this direction. I have seen him frequently take a barrel of whisky by the chimes and lift it up to his face as if to drink out of the bunghole. This feat he could accomplish with the greatest ease. I never saw him taste or drink a drop of any kind of spirituous liquors. R. B. RUTLEDGE TO HERNDON, OCTOBER 1866.
Biographer Alonzo McDonald wrote of an incident during his Lincoln's first legislative election: "A crowd of voters that had collected at Papsville, getting full of whiskey and enthusiasm, began a general fight. Among those who were roughly handled was a follower of the New Salem candidate. Jumping from the platform, Lincoln rushed through the melee, seized his friend's assailant as if to make him 'walk Spanish,' tossed him off ten feet or so, resumed his place on the stand, and calmly began his little speech.
A famous part of the Lincoln legend is Mr. Lincoln's wrestling match with Jack Armstrong of the Clary's Grove boys. "This was the turning point in Lincoln's life," attorney John T. Stuart told a Columbus, Ohio newspaper reporter in 1860 - thus determining its place in the Lincoln mythology.29 Biographer Benjamin Thomas wrote that the fight gave Mr. Lincoln "the reputation for courage and strength that was so essential to success on the frontier, and convinced his associates that he 'belonged.'" Historian Douglas L. Wilson wrote an extensive analysis of fight in Honor's Voice: The Clary's Grove boys, Stuart explained, were the regulators of the neighborhood and 'took it upon themselves to try the mettle of every new comer and ascertain what sort of stuff he was made of.' But Lincoln had proved an exceptional case, and it didn't take Armstrong long, according to Stuart, 'to discover that he had got hold of the wrong customer, and when it was evident that Lincoln was getting the better of their champion, the whole band pitched in and gave Lincoln several blows which had no very salutary effect on the strength of his legs. Lincoln however took all this in perfect good humor, and by laughing and joining displayed such an excellent disposition that he at once won their hearts and was invited to become one of the company.
I like Lincoln over Jackson in the finals.
Yeah good thing nobody mentioned Lincoln's wrestling ability already.
I thought it was more interesting to read some actual historical accounts of Lincoln's physical accomplishments than it was to read a bunch of guys on the Internet say "Lincoln was a good wrestler." :shrug: I had some teachers who would bore us silly while reciting a bunch of facts out of textbooks, and I had some who would engage and educate us by sharing first-person historical accounts of the things we were studying. I always thought the second kind were much better.
 
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I like the Civil War guys teaming up during the early stages. A Grant/Hayes/Garfield trio would do some serious damage.
Garfield was not a fan of Grant as Garfield felt he was passed over for promotion. So internal team conflict might be their undoing?
Likely, but I think they would put aside their differences long enough to survive the initial melee. "The evil you know" and all that...
 
Favorites are obvious - Teddy, Washington, Lincoln, Jackson.

However, given the sheer pandemonium of it all, I think that the winner comes from the second tier.

 
Every president is in the best physical and mental condition they were ever in throughout the course of their presidency.
I think most of you are forgetting this part. Lincoln wasn't wrasslin anyone in his 50's (which is like our 60's now).Obama in great shape? he's a smoker. That plus most of the presidents would resent him being a president (after all most owned his kind) and gang up on him...

I know W is a buffoon, but he was probably in the best shape of any sitting president and plus he's a weasel. That plus the obvious help from an ex CIA spook in his dad and George W. could take this thing...
Plus he's a Texan. :thumbup:
 
Every president is in the best physical and mental condition they were ever in throughout the course of their presidency.
I think most of you are forgetting this part. Lincoln wasn't wrasslin anyone in his 50's (which is like our 60's now).Obama in great shape? he's a smoker. That plus most of the presidents would resent him being a president (after all most owned his kind) and gang up on him...

I know W is a buffoon, but he was probably in the best shape of any sitting president and plus he's a weasel. That plus the obvious help from an ex CIA spook in his dad and George W. could take this thing...
Plus he's a Texan. :thumbup:
Dude was born in Connecticut. He also lived in Bakersfield for christ's sake.
 
Every president is in the best physical and mental condition they were ever in throughout the course of their presidency.
I think most of you are forgetting this part. Lincoln wasn't wrasslin anyone in his 50's (which is like our 60's now).Obama in great shape? he's a smoker. That plus most of the presidents would resent him being a president (after all most owned his kind) and gang up on him...

I know W is a buffoon, but he was probably in the best shape of any sitting president and plus he's a weasel. That plus the obvious help from an ex CIA spook in his dad and George W. could take this thing...
Plus he's a Texan. :thumbup:
Dude was born in Connecticut. He also lived in Bakersfield for christ's sake.
You shut your whoremouth.
 
Every president is in the best physical and mental condition they were ever in throughout the course of their presidency.
I think most of you are forgetting this part. Lincoln wasn't wrasslin anyone in his 50's (which is like our 60's now).Obama in great shape? he's a smoker. That plus most of the presidents would resent him being a president (after all most owned his kind) and gang up on him...

I know W is a buffoon, but he was probably in the best shape of any sitting president and plus he's a weasel. That plus the obvious help from an ex CIA spook in his dad and George W. could take this thing...
Plus he's a Texan. :thumbup:
Dude was born in Connecticut. He also lived in Bakersfield for christ's sake.
You shut your whoremouth.
You going to claim Josh Hamilton too?
 
Every president is in the best physical and mental condition they were ever in throughout the course of their presidency.
I think most of you are forgetting this part. Lincoln wasn't wrasslin anyone in his 50's (which is like our 60's now).Obama in great shape? he's a smoker. That plus most of the presidents would resent him being a president (after all most owned his kind) and gang up on him...

I know W is a buffoon, but he was probably in the best shape of any sitting president and plus he's a weasel. That plus the obvious help from an ex CIA spook in his dad and George W. could take this thing...
Plus he's a Texan. :thumbup:
Dude was born in Connecticut. He also lived in Bakersfield for christ's sake.
You shut your whoremouth.
You going to claim Josh Hamilton too?
Let's wait and see how the playoffs and offseason go.
 
Every president is in the best physical and mental condition they were ever in throughout the course of their presidency.
I think most of you are forgetting this part. Lincoln wasn't wrasslin anyone in his 50's (which is like our 60's now).Obama in great shape? he's a smoker. That plus most of the presidents would resent him being a president (after all most owned his kind) and gang up on him...

I know W is a buffoon, but he was probably in the best shape of any sitting president and plus he's a weasel. That plus the obvious help from an ex CIA spook in his dad and George W. could take this thing...
Plus he's a Texan. :thumbup:
Dude was born in Connecticut. He also lived in Bakersfield for christ's sake.
You shut your whoremouth.
You going to claim Josh Hamilton too?
Let's wait and see how the playoffs and offseason go.
Well we all know how GWB's terms went and yet here you are.BURN!

 
I can't help but picturing the Bushes, back to back, in the middle of the arena, just dominating.

 
Need to look at how old the different Presidents were during their administrations.
wikipedia allows you to sort by age. People betting on Buchanan or George H.W. Bush or even Andrew Jackson should probably reconsider.
Teddy coming in as the youngest at inauguration. Bump Teddy.
initially I had Grant in my top 5 just because he's a mean SOB, but as one of the youngest in the competition, I think he's gotta be top 2 with Teddy.my top 5:

1. Teddy

2. Grant

3. Abe

4. Jackson

5. Washington

SLEEPER ALERT = Obama. lots of old white men would be deathly afraid of a black guy with a knife.

 
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My wife and I were having this discussion and expanded to First Ladies. We had it narrowed down to Bess Truman, Edith Wilson, Eleanor Roosevelt, and Hillary Clinton. My wife leaned Truman, but I think Wilson.

 
My wife and I were having this discussion and expanded to First Ladies. We had it narrowed down to Bess Truman, Edith Wilson, Eleanor Roosevelt, and Hillary Clinton. My wife leaned Truman, but I think Wilson.
Hillary would fight dirty. Michelle Obama has reach and looks like a mean grappler. I think they'd both make top 5. Lou Hoover would definitely be in the mix, too.
 
My wife and I were having this discussion and expanded to First Ladies. We had it narrowed down to Bess Truman, Edith Wilson, Eleanor Roosevelt, and Hillary Clinton. My wife leaned Truman, but I think Wilson.
Pretty lean group. I'll take Dolly Madison to sweep the chubby division.
 
My wife and I were having this discussion and expanded to First Ladies. We had it narrowed down to Bess Truman, Edith Wilson, Eleanor Roosevelt, and Hillary Clinton. My wife leaned Truman, but I think Wilson.
Hillary would fight dirty. Michelle Obama has reach and looks like a mean grappler. I think they'd both make top 5. Lou Hoover would definitely be in the mix, too.
Yeah, I think a good case can be made for Hoover and Obama too. Lou Hoover hunted when she was younger. That might give her an edge.
 
Only way Grant wins is if he convinces some of the others to do a suicide charge against a well entrenched group and thins the herd.

 
I think you go with the shorter, scrappier guy over the taller, lumbering one in a knife fight.

I like Grant. 5'9", 160lbs, West Point graduate, and only 46 years old at inauguration.

 
'Sarnoff said:
Lincoln easily. All those years chopping logs, splitting rails, etc. Guy can handle a blade, plus he's got those long arms. He was a great wrestler, too. I don't think anyone could take him.
:goodposting: Lincoln had leverage. History tells us he was a great wrestler.
 
'Sarnoff said:
Lincoln easily. All those years chopping logs, splitting rails, etc. Guy can handle a blade, plus he's got those long arms. He was a great wrestler, too. I don't think anyone could take him.
:goodposting: Lincoln had leverage. History tells us he was a great wrestler.
These were a bunch of smart dudes. No chance that a few of them dont team up and go after Lincoln right away.
 
Pierce is a sleeper. Not too old when inaugurated. Military experience in the Mexican war. Was in a train accident with his family and watched his son get decapitated, so a bunch of bleeding presidents won't faze him. Grew up in a log cabin, so you know he is tough.

 
JFK is a dark horse even with a bad back. Military background, sneaky CIA stuff and it took a magic bullet fired by who knows to kill him

 

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