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A Pro Personnel Director's ranking of RB's (1 Viewer)

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Kinda surprising how this guy ranked the RB's. Even considering it's not a fantasy ranking but rather a pure NFL ranking, he still seems to be pretty far off with many of them. Which makes me think the team he works for could be the Raiders ? If this was the Sporting News rankings, I wouldn't have been surprised since they seem to be the least knowledgeable publication when it comes to football.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/article/20...son-rb-rankings

 
I actually like some of those rankings (SJax and DeAngelo for example), but Ray Rice all the way down at 18 seems egregiously low.

 
Seems like a good list to me. Stuff I would take issue would be Felix Jones being in the top 10 and Reggie Bush being anywhere near the top 20.

And John Stewart should be higher, possibly late top 10.

 
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Seems like a good list to me. Stuff I would take issue would be Felix Jones being in the top 10 and Reggie Bush being anywhere near the top 20.

And John Stewart should be higher, possibly late top 10.
Totally missed Bush being that high. And Stewart is top 10 for sure.
 
Jamaal Charles is way too low, IMO. But generally a good list.

I agree with Felix Jones being ranked high; I think Jon Stewart should be ranked higher as well.

 
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Jamaal Charles is way too low, IMO. But generally a good list.I agree with Felix Jones being ranked high; I think Jon Stewart should be ranked higher as well.
Felix is ranked high, but in terms of talent that's where I would place him. If you put Ray Rice that high last offseason people would complain, and I think Felix is as talented as Rice -- it's just touches and injury risk that are question marks for him, not talent IMO.
 
The guy clearly favors big backs based on smaller things he says:

- referring to backs as "the little back"

- Brandon Jacobs, Marion Barber, Adrian Peterson, and Steven Jackson getting the edge over some players I would think make more sense to be ranked higher.

Interesting/entertaining list.

 
Meh, this scout puts a huge premium on larger-sized RBs to have R.Brown/B.Jacobs so high, and Ray Rice/Jones-Drew arguably so low.

 
Meh, this scout puts a huge premium on larger-sized RBs to have R.Brown/B.Jacobs so high, and Ray Rice/Jones-Drew arguably so low.
I noticed this bias as well. But using his criteria (the player's size, power, speed, durability and versatility), then why are Felix Jones, Brandon Jacobs, and MB3 so high?
 
Meh, this scout puts a huge premium on larger-sized RBs to have R.Brown/B.Jacobs so high, and Ray Rice/Jones-Drew arguably so low.
I noticed this bias as well. But using his criteria (the player's size, power, speed, durability and versatility), then why are Felix Jones, Brandon Jacobs, and MB3 so high?
Or Ronnie Brown for that matter. I totally disagree that size is a good trait for NFL RBs. If anything, I look at it as a detriment. Guys like Payton/Sanders/Emmitt and more recently Portis/LT/Priest/Faulk/Deangello were not dainty by any means but relied on vision and ability to make tacklers miss. Guys like Jacobs and Brown who rely on power certainly are good when healthy, but they take a ton of punishment, and that beating inevitably impairs natural ability.
 
I think the list sucks:

1. Adrian Peterson, Vikings. He has a slight edge on Chris Johnson because he's a more physical pure power runner—and also has breakaway speed. He's working to solve issues with ball security.2. Chris Johnson, Titans. In addition to tremendous speed, he has great body control. Although he is slightly lighter and shorter than ideal, he runs like he's bigger.3. Steven Jackson, Rams. A big man (6-2, 231) who has amazing versatility and deceptive speed to go with sudden bursts of power.4. Ronnie Brown, Dolphins. If it weren't for durability issues, he might be the complete NFL back. Like Jackson, he has a big body (6-0, 230) and is a good receiver. Brown has shown he can throw the ball, too.5. Michael Turner, Falcons. He's a combination of track star and powerful zone runner.6. DeAngelo Williams, Panthers. He runs with good power and speed thanks to strong legs. He's a home run threat on every down.7. Frank Gore, 49ers. With his compact frame, he's in the same category as Williams. He has outstanding vision to go with speed and ability to break tackles.8. Maurice Jones-Drew, Jaguars. Another smaller back who has powerful legs that make him tough to bring down. He excels on screens and draws.9. Brandon Jacobs, Giants. A big, bruising back coming off a struggle in 2009. He takes a lot of hits with his upright style but delivers them, too.10. Felix Jones, Cowboys. He fits well in Dallas' scheme and his great speed is obvious, but he can also be a good power back with deceptive strength.11. Marshawn Lynch, Bills. Looking at him purely on the field, he is very skilled and powerful. He must show he can avoid the injury bug, however, to maintain success in Buffalo or elsewhere.12. Marion Barber, Cowboys. He always runs with a head of steam at 100 miles per hour. He knows he's big and strong and takes it out on you.13. Cedric Benson, Bengals. He had a bad start to his career but turned the corner last year. Now, like Lynch, he just needs to get out of his own way.14. Reggie Bush, Saints. A little change of pace here—his elusiveness stands out as both a runner and receiver. He's a great asset on screens and draws.15. Rashard Mendenhall, Steelers. He fits the mold of a big, strong, fast back and may be ready for a breakout year with better help from his line.16. Ray Rice, Ravens. They asked him do a lot last season, and he held up. That will be key going forward, because with his size (5-8, 205) they need to keep him from getting him too nicked up as a feature back.17. Shonn Greene, Jets. You could have called him a dark horse to find the light in Year 2, but then you remember how great he was during the playoffs.18. Matt Forte, Bears. He had a big rookie year before the workload caught up to him a bit in Year 2. His powerful body and versatility still stand out. Having Chester Taylor to relieve him should help.19. Beanie Wells, Cardinals. He's a big back, but he also has the burst to rack up big yards per carry. Getting double-digit touches consistently this season will help him.20. Jonathan Stewart, Panthers. They don't miss a beat when he replaces Williams; he would be a featured star on most teams.Six more to watchSix talented backs who didn't quite make the cut:Joseph Addai, Colts. It's hard to get a read on him in the Colts'offense. He may lose significant touches to Donald Brown.Jamaal Charles, Chiefs. The little back surprised many with a big second half of the season. The Chiefs made a good move to bring in Thomas Jones, who will help keep Charles fresh and healthy.Ryan Grant, Packers. He can be explosive, but his success may have more to do with his cutback running, which is ideal for his team's scheme.LeSean McCoy, Eagles. He has the versatile skills to be a younger Brian Westbrook; he just needs to prove it.Knowshon Moreno, Broncos. Moreno was nicked up a lot as a rookie, so it will take another year to determine just how good he is.Steve Slaton, Texas. He has underrated toughness for a smaller back.
 
If Peterson would always hold the ball as close as he does in the pic shown, he wouldn't have nearly the fumble problems...

 
Jamaal Charles is way too low, IMO. But generally a good list.I agree with Felix Jones being ranked high; I think Jon Stewart should be ranked higher as well.
Felix is ranked high, but in terms of talent that's where I would place him. If you put Ray Rice that high last offseason people would complain, and I think Felix is as talented as Rice -- it's just touches and injury risk that are question marks for him, not talent IMO.
I was unclear; I meant that I agree with Felix Jones' ranking.
 
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Jamaal Charles is way too low, IMO. But generally a good list.I agree with Felix Jones being ranked high; I think Jon Stewart should be ranked higher as well.
Felix is ranked high, but in terms of talent that's where I would place him. If you put Ray Rice that high last offseason people would complain, and I think Felix is as talented as Rice -- it's just touches and injury risk that are question marks for him, not talent IMO.
I was unclear; I meant that I agree with Felix Jones' ranking.
So you think he's that good?
 
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Jamaal Charles is way too low, IMO. But generally a good list.I agree with Felix Jones being ranked high; I think Jon Stewart should be ranked higher as well.
Felix is ranked high, but in terms of talent that's where I would place him. If you put Ray Rice that high last offseason people would complain, and I think Felix is as talented as Rice -- it's just touches and injury risk that are question marks for him, not talent IMO.
I was unclear; I meant that I agree with Felix Jones' ranking.
So you think he's that good?
Yeah, in terms of talent, I think Jones should be somewhere around the top ten. (But well below Ray Rice — so I strongly disagree with Rice's ranking.)
 
Jamaal Charles is way too low, IMO. But generally a good list.I agree with Felix Jones being ranked high; I think Jon Stewart should be ranked higher as well.
Felix is ranked high, but in terms of talent that's where I would place him. If you put Ray Rice that high last offseason people would complain, and I think Felix is as talented as Rice -- it's just touches and injury risk that are question marks for him, not talent IMO.
I was unclear; I meant that I agree with Felix Jones' ranking.
So you think he's that good?
Yeah, in terms of talent, I think Jones should be somewhere around the top ten. (But well below Ray Rice — so I strongly disagree with Rice's ranking.)
Ok...I see. Just making sure.
 
The guy clearly favors big backs based on smaller things he says: - referring to backs as "the little back"- Brandon Jacobs, Marion Barber, Adrian Peterson, and Steven Jackson getting the edge over some players I would think make more sense to be ranked higher. Interesting/entertaining list.
Exactly. It is entertaining, but beyond that, I don't think this guy knows any more than most of us. First of all, even doing a ranking like this is a bit of a reach because a back's real NFL value is related to the system in which he plays. This is why a Ray Rice is so much more valuable than this guy gives him credit. How can you objectively rank real talent outside of how a back is used?
 
Disagree with a lot of the list but primarily I think a top 20 is pointless. RB is one of the most fungible positions in sports so anything past the top 3-5 is really splitting hairs, imo.

 

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