A week later, I am still crushed. The perspective of a mixed-race marriage and a loss of trust (1 Viewer)

[Slapdash]

this is true.   One of my main issues with Republican party.

brings up a nice point i'd like to make.  Even though there are millions of Republicans,  the Republican leadership does not give two cents about me or people they're supposed to represent.  This is why Trump won.   Many people saw the elite NEVER TRUMPERS from the Republican leadership, the same people that wanted to destroy the Tea Party.    People thought "you're just as much of a problem as the Democrats" and voted for trump as a vote against Hillary and elite Republicans that have lost touch with the party.

Trump talked about law and order, enforcing immigration, renegotiating trade agreements.   These are all against the Republican leadership ideas.   They wanted Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio etc....    all the vanilla Republicans lost to trump in the prelims because "conservatives" liked that he wasn't ignoring legitimate issues to a wide swath of voters.  

For years, Republican leadership has talked about conservative ideas to get votes, but once in power they've operated on their own interests, or the interests of business partners.

Trump ran against that and won

Problem is, at least in the specific example of the debt, Trump is going to govern like a typical Republican.  

But I get your broader point, I was saying back last August that the politicians/media on both sides were underestimating his appeal. 

 

[tommyboy]

i don't think trump has a lot of appeal to the avg person, he had very high negatives.   

but he wasn't Hillary and he wasnt an Elite Republican™.    8 years ago people voted for "change"   they did it again last week

 

[Eephus]

this is true.   One of my main issues with Republican party.

brings up a nice point i'd like to make.  Even though there are millions of Republicans,  the Republican leadership does not give two cents about me or people they're supposed to represent.  This is why Trump won.   Many people saw the elite NEVER TRUMPERS from the Republican leadership, the same people that wanted to destroy the Tea Party.    People thought "you're just as much of a problem as the Democrats" and voted for trump as a vote against Hillary and elite Republicans that have lost touch with the party.

Trump talked about law and order, enforcing immigration, renegotiating trade agreements.   These are all against the Republican leadership ideas.   They wanted Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio etc....    all the vanilla Republicans lost to trump in the prelims because "conservatives" liked that he wasn't ignoring legitimate issues to a wide swath of voters.  

For years, Republican leadership has talked about conservative ideas to get votes, but once in power they've operated on their own interests, or the interests of business partners.

Trump ran against that and won

It remains to be seen if Trump will govern like that.  Early signals are mixed which I expect to continue.   There will be a mish mash of Trump and GOP establishment stuff colliding in his first 100 days. 

 

[fantasycurse42]

Think there is an overreaction by some. I'll say this, I'm kind of an egomaniac at times, I'd have to imagine becoming much more grounded after becoming the most powerful person on Earth.

 

[flapgreen]

Are they going to be legal or Deplorables?

White Legals are deplorable.  Get with the times,  man! 

 

[HellToupee]

White Legals are deplorable.  Get with the times,  man! 

Irredeemable too

 

[Jayrod]

I must have missed where Trump said he was against mixed race marriages.

It's the children!  Won't anyone think of the children!?!?

 

[Steed]

Best thing you could do for your friends is disown them.  It's a win-win

 

[tommyboy]

kicking a guy when he's down is a bit much, unless its CSTU

Koya is good people just stop.    Offer some advice or just don't post but some of these comments are really poor taste

 

[Ksquared]

kicking a guy when he's down is a bit much, unless its CSTU

Koya is good people just stop.    Offer some advice or just don't post but some of these comments are really poor taste

I would generally agree, but Koya went on ignore list about the end of the summer.  His condescension of anyone that would oppose his view was bad enough, but constantly labeling anyone not agreeing with him as racist, homophobic, sexist, ..... and all the other labels helped create the responses he got.  You want to piss on everyone as worthless knuckle draggers, then do not expect a lot of tears to be shed when you cannot handle that "your" superior candidate did not win.

Hopefully Koya will get over this as he calms down and get back to the poster from 1+ years ago when we could actually agree to disagree.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Don't go to Maryland. They will beat you up for not voting for their guy.. gal. 

http://www.wusa9.com/mb/local/maryland-news

This high school is like ten minutes from my house. This is the same school district where the superintendent sent the email I posted yesterday.

 

[Dr Oadi]

Don't go to Maryland. They will beat you up for not voting for their guy.. gal. 

http://www.wusa9.com/mb/local/maryland-news

Or go to Portland if you're a pregnant woman and try to get to a hospital. 

http://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2016/11/15/theyre-just-thugs-portland-protesters-attack-pregnant-woman-as-she-tries-to-get-to-er-video/?utm_content=buffer83f08&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

 koya guy being afraid may be on to something.   

 

[jonessed]

You don't?

I do.

 

[jonessed]

This high school is like ten minutes from my house. This is the same school district where the superintendent sent the email I posted yesterday.

It's happening in the Bay Area as well.  You pick it up more in local news.  No charges so no real record.  They aren't considered hate crimes obviously.

 

[ROCKET]

It's been a week and I can't stop smiling. Anxiously awaiting the inauguration.

 

[lod001]

It's been a week and I can't stop smiling. Anxiously awaiting the inauguration.

 

[ilikedwight]

It's been a week and I can't stop smiling. Anxiously awaiting the inauguration.

Same here brother.

 

[jon_mx]

I am sorry, but I think all this fear and tear-mongering is really f-ing dumb.  

 

[tommyboy]

I find this comparison offensive. I really do.

We don't know what kind of President Trump will be. He may be a good one; I hope he is. But during his campaign he expressed racism, bigotry, and xenophobia in a manner that was disgraceful and unprecedented. Obama never did anything close to that (neither has any previous modern candidate for that matter.) Regardless of what kind of President Trump turns out to be, his campaign for the office deserves to be condemned. I don't care that he won, it still deserves condemnation.

During the campaign Obama said:

If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun

argue with [people], get in their faces

 it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion 

If you’ve got a business – you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”

 

[tommyboy]

I am sorry, but I think all this fear and tear-mongering is really f-ing dumb.  

It actually helps solidify reasons people voted for Trump

 

[tommyboy]

I mean if you aren't grown up enough to handle defeat graciously how could you possibly handle the responsibility of running a govt?

 

[NREC34]

A lot of establishment republicans hate Trump. Just had the thought today: what if all of them aligned with democrats in congress and passed anything they wanted and even override potential Trump vetoes. 

Wouldn't that be absolutely the greatest thing to ever happen in politics?

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

I mean if you aren't grown up enough to handle defeat graciously how could you possibly handle the responsibility of running a govt?

Ask the tea baggers.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

A lot of establishment republicans hate Trump. Just had the thought today: what if all of them aligned with democrats in congress and passed anything they wanted and even override potential Trump vetoes. 

Wouldn't that be absolutely the greatest thing to ever happen in politics?

Or impeach him? They'd definitely prefer Pence. And we have fraud and rape cases against Trump moving forward as we speak.

 

[msommer]

I mean if you aren't grown up enough to handle defeat graciously how could you possibly handle the responsibility of running a govt?

How gracious is the Donald in defeat?

Under pressure he claimed the press was unfair, that a judge ruling against him was prejudiced because of Donald's bigoted remarks, Megyn Kelly was bleeding from whereever when she was asking him tough questions?

That screams readiness for responsibility to me.

Not

 

[NREC34]

Or impeach him? They'd definitely prefer Pence. And we have fraud and rape cases against Trump moving forward against Trump as we speak.

Yeah I think the odds are decent he will do something that they could get him on. Don't just constantly bring up BS stuff like they did to Obama though. Needs to be legit. 

 

[BassNBrew]

Yeah I think the odds are decent he will do something that they could get him on. Don't just constantly bring up BS stuff like they did to Obama though. Needs to be legit. 

What BS stuff?  Obama had it relatively easy.  Even though I disagreed a a lot of his policies and think he fell woefully short of his campaign promises, he was much more honest than Bush or Clinton.  I don't think he was corrupt like most and had a decent heart.  A majority of the hearings against his administration were due to Clinton (surprise, surprise).  If he just had the balls to divest himself of Clinton his successor would be building on his legacy instead of Trump dismantling it.  

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

A lot of establishment republicans hate Trump. Just had the thought today: what if all of them aligned with democrats in congress and passed anything they wanted and even override potential Trump vetoes. 

Wouldn't that be absolutely the greatest thing to ever happen in politics?

Democrats and establishment Republicans don't want the same things.

 

[tommyboy]

A lot of establishment republicans hate Trump. Just had the thought today: what if all of them aligned with democrats in congress and passed anything they wanted and even override potential Trump vetoes. 

Wouldn't that be absolutely the greatest thing to ever happen in politics?

No, but it would be funny

 

[Gr00vus]

I mean if you aren't grown up enough to handle defeat graciously how could you possibly handle the responsibility of running a govt?

I don't think the protestors were/are running for office. Or are you talking about someone else?

 

[Willie Neslon]

What BS stuff?  Obama had it relatively easy.

Oh come on.

 

[tommyboy]

I don't think the protestors were/are running for office. Or are you talking about someone else?

You're right I went off the rails there

 

[TheAristocrat]

That screams readiness for responsibility to me.

Not

Oh you go girl! :threefingersnaps:

The 90's were fun.

 

[Phil Elliott]

Koya - just watched a new ABC tv comedy show, "Speechless". Was a Thankgiving episode with families. You should stream it. Seriously.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I mean if you aren't grown up enough to handle defeat graciously how could you possibly handle the responsibility of running a govt?

Wait, what?  If Hillary has done one thing well in the last year it's that she handled the defeat pretty graciously.  How gracious do we think Trump would have been if he'd lost the election while having a majority in the popular vote?

 

[tommyboy]

Wait, what?  If Hillary has done one thing well in the last year it's that she handled the defeat pretty graciously.  How gracious do we think Trump would have been if he'd lost the election while having a majority in the popular vote?

https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/751279-a-week-later-i-am-still-crushed-the-perspective-of-a-mixed-race-marriage-and-a-loss-of-trust/?do=findComment&comment=19622961

 

[Insein]

But seriously, I question the sanity of people who take this so seriously. All those crying about Trump to the point of not even letting parents see grandkids because of who they voted for are the same as those people that said Obama would turn us into a Muslim state of Al Queda and that the world as we know it would cease to exist.

In other words, crazy.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Ask the tea baggers.

Way to validate why Clinton lost.

 

[jerry jones]

I'd probably hold off on having kids for the next 4-8 years, see what kind of country we are left with (if America survives)

but, then of course you might be afraid of the next president too and will need to wait another 4-8 years before having kids. 

I wonder what kind of kids you will bring into adulthood if you yourself are so afraid of today's America?

Will they be afraid of anyone's ideas that are different than their own? 

Does this plague just continue thru the generations or do you trust in things like a friendship you've had for 30 years?

i just don't know....

 

[jerry jones]

Wait, what?  If Hillary has done one thing well in the last year it's that she handled the defeat pretty graciously.  How gracious do we think Trump would have been if he'd lost the election while having a majority in the popular vote?

Good thing the world doesn't have to find out....bet it would be a lot quieter than all this crap going on right now

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Good thing the world doesn't have to find out....bet it would be a lot quieter than all this crap going on right now

Trump called for a full on revolution when he thought Mitt Romney, a guy who kinda cared about a little bit, lost the EC while winning the popular vote.  What do you think his response would have been if it were him that had lost the EC while winning the popular?

 

[ShamrockPride]

kicking a guy when he's down is a bit much, unless its CSTU

Koya is good people just stop.    Offer some advice or just don't post but some of these comments are really poor taste

The entire premise of this thread is poor taste. "Whaaa, my candidate lost." ST-FU, get over it like an adult and not some whiney little high school students walking out of class that you're seeing on tv, go about your life, and hope (or even help with) your side comes out stronger in 4 years.

No, instead of being a man and accepting the process like we have for the past 250 years, not only am I going to reject the result, I'm going to whine my grievances over an anonymous internet message board.

He's a ####, and deserves the backlash he's gotten.

 

[jerry jones]

Trump called for a full on revolution when he thought Mitt Romney, a guy who kinda cared about a little bit, lost the EC while winning the popular vote.  What do you think his response would have been if it were him that had lost the EC while winning the popular?

Do you really think any protest from hard working middle Americans would come anywhere near the absurd demonstrations going on right now?

not a chance.....

 

[Daywalker]

But seriously, I question the sanity of people who take this so seriously. All those crying about Trump to the point of not even letting parents see grandkids because of who they voted for are the same as those people that said Obama would turn us into a Muslim state of Al Queda and that the world as we know it would cease to exist.

In other words, crazy.

That crazy you talk about is Donald Trump.  He wouldn't admit Obama was American three months ago.

 

[flapgreen]

I would generally agree, but Koya went on ignore list about the end of the summer.  His condescension of anyone that would oppose his view was bad enough, but constantly labeling anyone not agreeing with him as racist, homophobic, sexist, ..... and all the other labels helped create the responses he got.  You want to piss on everyone as worthless knuckle draggers, then do not expect a lot of tears to be shed when you cannot handle that "your" superior candidate did not win.

Hopefully Koya will get over this as he calms down and get back to the poster from 1+ years ago when we could actually agree to disagree.

Yeah he's been ugly quite a bit on here. Defend him all you want but It goes both ways.   He could be a decent guy but you don't dish it out and then complain when it's eventually given back to you.  I don't buy into that at all. 

 

[Da Guru]

I mean if you aren't grown up enough to handle defeat graciously how could you possibly handle the responsibility of running a govt?

Hillary flipped out and threw some tantrums after her loss but I am sure it was just frustration at the polls and her staff as she never expected to lose.

 

[The Commish]

Democrats and establishment Republicans don't want the same things.

They DO want to keep establishment people in power.  I don't think trying to make him look bad is out of the question, but I am also not holding my breath.

 

[[scooter]]

kicking a guy when he's down is a bit much, unless its CSTU

Koya is good people just stop.    Offer some advice or just don't post but some of these comments are really poor taste

I would generally agree, but Koya went on ignore list about the end of the summer. 

What kind of person feels the need to go into a thread started by someone on their ignore list?

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

They DO want to keep establishment people in power.  I don't think trying to make him look bad is out of the question, but I am also not holding my breath.

Can you give an example of a policy issue where establishment Republicans would work with Democrats in opposition to Trump?

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

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