Aaron Brooks out 2-4 weeks (1 Viewer)

[CalBear]

I wouldn't necessarily put my faith in this coaching staff to make the right decision on just about anything. Plus Walter clearly wasn't ready last season, he's a raw prospect. He's probably still not ready, but what's the alternative?

Seems like last year's coaching staff and this year's felt the same way. How many games like this week's do you need to see to realize Walter isn't a solution? 10 for 27 for 3 INT and 3 fumbles is Ryan Leaf territory, and that's after Walter got a year to prepare.The alternative is the same one the Saints had last year; put in Brooks, who you know can do some things but also makes boneheaded mistakes, or put in someone like Bouman who they know sucks in all aspects of the game. What's the point of that?

 

[Tau837]

At least Brooks has produced as a fantasy QB before. What makes Walter's performance yesterday better than Brooks' performance in week 1?On 24 plays (pass attempts, runs, sacks), Brooks produced 95 yards, 0 turnovers, 0 points, and was sacked 7 times.On 46 plays (pass attempts, runs, sacks), Walter produced 198 yards, 5 turnovers (2 fumbles, 3 interceptions), 6 points (2 FGs), and was sacked 8 times.Yes, Walter led Oakland to two FGs. But one of them came after an 8 play, 8 yard drive following a McNair interception. So I hardly think that is a discriminator.Walter's yardage per play is about the same. He is sacked a bit less often. He produced one good drive for a FG. But he has 5 turnovers to none for Brooks.Given the real possibility that Walter flops, Brooks might be a decent guy to stash on the bench in deep leagues.

Walter had 3 fumbles but only 1 was lost. Therefore it was 4 turnovers. Doesn't change analysis much. Just FYI.Also..what Walter did was coming off the bench without having a full week of practice as the #1. I'd like to see what he can do with a full week of preparing for the start.

I was using Walter's combined numbers from the 2 games. If I'm not mistaken, Walter lost a fumble in week 1, so that's 5 turnovers on the season. I didn't see that Brooks had 2 lost fumbles in the box score and didn't see the game... if he did lose 2, that narrows it to 5 turnovers for Walter to 2 for Brooks.

 

[gman8343]

I wouldn't necessarily put my faith in this coaching staff to make the right decision on just about anything. Plus Walter clearly wasn't ready last season, he's a raw prospect. He's probably still not ready, but what's the alternative?

Seems like last year's coaching staff and this year's felt the same way. How many games like this week's do you need to see to realize Walter isn't a solution? 10 for 27 for 3 INT and 3 fumbles is Ryan Leaf territory, and that's after Walter got a year to prepare.The alternative is the same one the Saints had last year; put in Brooks, who you know can do some things but also makes boneheaded mistakes, or put in someone like Bouman who they know sucks in all aspects of the game. What's the point of that?

It's the O-line, not the QB, or at least not all the QB. The o-line is simply awful, and the QBs are taking 7 step drops which doesn't give them time to get rid of the ball. Walter looked better than Brooks yesterday IMO.

 

[Tau837]

I wouldn't necessarily put my faith in this coaching staff to make the right decision on just about anything. Plus Walter clearly wasn't ready last season, he's a raw prospect. He's probably still not ready, but what's the alternative?

Seems like last year's coaching staff and this year's felt the same way. How many games like this week's do you need to see to realize Walter isn't a solution? 10 for 27 for 3 INT and 3 fumbles is Ryan Leaf territory, and that's after Walter got a year to prepare.The alternative is the same one the Saints had last year; put in Brooks, who you know can do some things but also makes boneheaded mistakes, or put in someone like Bouman who they know sucks in all aspects of the game. What's the point of that?

It's the O-line, not the QB, or at least not all the QB. The o-line is simply awful, and the QBs are taking 7 step drops which doesn't give them time to get rid of the ball. Walter looked better than Brooks yesterday IMO.

Exactly why Brooks should be reinstalled as the starter when healthy.

 

[Statorama]

There no decent available QB out there

I heard Billy Volek is available.

 

[Usual Suspect]

You're not the coaching staff. The coaching staff has been looking at Walter for over a year now, and last year they put in Tuiasosopo instead of Walter, and this year they brought in Brooks instead of giving the ball to Walter. If they're smart, the coaching staff really doesn't care what you as a fan would like to see.

Edit to add: I'm not saying Brooks is good, just that Walter is not any kind of answer.

Are you serious? They don't care what I have to say, they aren't reading the FBG forums. I might as well go home. (just in case that wasn't obvious).You know Walter isn't the answer. Thats fine. I'm not sold that he isn't the answer but I'm sold that ABrooks isn't the answer. I'd like to see him actually start a game with proper preparation before saying he should be bagging groceries.

Just a FYI - Walter missed the end of the 2005 season after having hernia surgery. I'm no NFL coach but I would guess they would rather have Tui play at the end of the '05 season then a guy laying on his back in a hospital bed. He fought the injury all year after sustaining it in the preseason and opted to have surgery during the '05 season...so no, I don't think the coaching staff got an appropriate look at him. They did get enough of a look though to pass up on a QB with their first pick (not saying that was smart but that should tell you what the coaches think of him).

 

[Usual Suspect]

I was using Walter's combined numbers from the 2 games. If I'm not mistaken, Walter lost a fumble in week 1, so that's 5 turnovers on the season. I didn't see that Brooks had 2 lost fumbles in the box score and didn't see the game... if he did lose 2, that narrows it to 5 turnovers for Walter to 2 for Brooks.

Gotcha. So they aren't as far off as first thought. In twice as many snaps, Walter has a little more then twice as many turnovers.As I said before...Walter isn't a savior who is going to turn the season around. But I'd like to see what he can do as a starter with a full period of preparation as the starter. I'd rather know in 2006 that he isn't the answer for 2007 then to find out in 2007 that he isn't the answer. As far as fantasy goes...in a 2 QB keeper league...I'm interested in how he performs.

 

[SNK]

How does this affect Marques Tuiasosopo's fantasy value?

But seriously, OAK needs to get someone and FAST. So who could they trade for. Holcomb, Rattay, Wright, Feely, the list of mediocre QBs is long. But its full of names better than Walter and Tuiasosopo.

 

[PatsWillWin]

How does this affect Marques Tuiasosopo's fantasy value?But seriously, OAK needs to get someone and FAST. So who could they trade for. Holcomb, Rattay, Wright, Feely, the list of mediocre QBs is long. But its full of names better than Walter and Tuiasosopo.

Yeah the Raiders need to get someone NOW or they're chances of competing for the division will quickly fade away!

 

[Lauryn]

There no decent available QB out there

I heard Billy Volek is available.

you snooze, you lose

 

[TommyGilmore]

Time to give Jeff George another call.