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Aaron Hernandez -- 22nd ranked TE this week in PPR (1 Viewer)
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Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Pretty sure the powers that be aren't going to appreciate you giving out exact rankings on a player
I didn't realize it was against the rules. If it is, I can edit the subject line, but it seemed so off-the-wall that it's hard to discuss without mentioning the actual ranking.
Synthesizer
Footballguy
It's called "Early Cheatsheets". The updated one will come later tonight and I can guarantee he'll end up higher than that.
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Guy has been a disappointment as of late. He's been vastly overshadowed by Gronk, and dropped an easy TD against the Chiefs last week. That said, he's still put up decent numbers. I'm not the fan I used to be though and will probably start Davis over him this week, if that means anything.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
tis is weak on their behalf. borderline ######ed that we can't discuss their rankings on their forums.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
this
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Actually you can. They've been very clear in the past they don't mind if someone lists an individual player and that ranking. You can even list the one above/below to compare. It's listing all 21 ahead of him that's a problem.
goldenchild
Footballguy
Vernon or Fred?
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
Vernon I assume.
Hernandez is still in the second tier of TEs. He had at least 2 targets in the end zone the other night, one TD called back on penalty and one dropped I think. I might put him at 10th but no lower.
Hernandez is still in the second tier of TEs. He had at least 2 targets in the end zone the other night, one TD called back on penalty and one dropped I think. I might put him at 10th but no lower.
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Whoops...Fred.
I definitely get that, but he can still go off on any given week and I just can't imagine why he'd be ranked that low. Somewhere in the 6-10 range seems right to me.
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Agree that he shouldn't be ranked that low. Anything below 8 or so is ridiculous.
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Often when you get past the top 5 or so the point differential between 10 and 20 is extremely minimal. You folks are entirely too caught up in what is likely a difference of 3 yards. If you like him, play him.
The Football Freak
Footballguy
It may have something to do with Philly being tough on TEs this season. I think only Fred Davis, and maybe one other TE I'm forgetting, has really played well against them. Of course, NE is different than most teams that have played Philly since they have two quality pass-catching TEs, but stats are stats.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
He should have had 2 touchdowns. He dropped one, and caught the other but had it called back on an illegal shift.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Been the #18 TE over the last four weeks - not sure what the issue is.
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
Right I forgot how good Fred Davis has been over the last 4 weeks.
Still locked in at #22...
Run It Up
Footballguy
Is it possible to even ignore Gronkowskis girth?
buck naked
Footballguy
Why list him there in the first place then????Philly is terrible against the TE. He should never have been there in the first place.
jasvic
Footballguy
True last year, not this season. They're actually one of the better defenses against the TE. Football Outsiders even has them at #1.
LargeMouthBass
Footballguy
YGOS?
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
I wouldn't read anything into those stats. Philly's linebackers and safeties are mostly terrible. They haven't been gashed by TEs because teams can run on them at will. Also, the numbers would look a lot worse if not for some egregious drops by Lance Kendricks in Week 1 and Jake Ballard last week.
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Thinking I may roll with Hernandez this week. Gronk has to get extra attention with the roll he's been on. I don't know, just get the feeling he may be in for a big game.
for ranks based on success rate for winning football games. there is some overlap, but its not necessarily indicative. id prefer looking at prior te performance and if you could rig a srs type profile i think it would be even more enlightening.
jasvic
Footballguy
Agreed, but my point is they aren't "terrible" this year.
Thats exactly how I feel. If he is playing he is in for me.
silentcoach
Footballguy
Philly may be good versus the tightend, but Hernandez does not really lineup at the traditional te spot. He plays more like a number 2 or slot wr, so stats should be adjusted accordingly. I would expect Gronkowski to be limited, if the phi lbs and safeties are as good as the stats indiciate (compared to the last few weeks)and Hernandez to see a cpl more receptions come his way. The over/under is set at 50 for this game! Someone, has to get some yardage....right?! 
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cubbie5150
Footballguy
Guess I'm in the minority agreeing Hernandez won't be very productive this week. 3/43 seems like an o.k. projection to me. I'm thinking Pats will run the ball plenty in this one
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
I would have to agree, imho he is much more likely to have 3/43 by half time than a total for the game. He is still getting targets and with a little better luck he could easily have had a few more scores over the last few games. Gronk is hot right now and imho it is logical to assume he will get a bit more attention. Add in Branch and Ocho hurting and I expect a very solid game for Hernandez. 2 caveats: Yes, I own Hernandez in 1 league and I have a feeling NE may run the ball more than usual this week.GreenNGold
Footballguy
How many points does your league give for "should've been TD's?" -- mine gives 0. I think his ranking is about right. He has some upside but is certainly not a top TE.
The point is that he's been targeted in the end zone. Are there really more than 15 TE's you'd start in front of Hernandez this week?
GreenNGold
Footballguy
How do his targets in the red zone compare to other TEs targets in the red zone? Unless we can figure that out the targets you saw are not special/unique to Hernandez. To answer your question there are 12-13 TEs I would absolutely start over him. Around 5-6 I would consider to be about equal to him and could go either way on.
Fair enough. I just see his floor as being very similar to most of the other guys in the 6-15 range, while his ceiling is substantially higher (and he has a much better chance of realizing it on any given week).
