Soulfly3
Footballguy
So, basically repeating last nights game, except with Rodgers taking knees every play as opposed to being on his back?
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Aaron Rodgers apologizes to you (1 Viewer)
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Khy
Footballguy
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Of course they are moving on...lol ....they have no choice. The fudge packers were overrated and have been exposed for 3 weeks now. If the bears had decided to just run the ball and play D they would have won too
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Rodgers is just getting exposed for being a me first primal donna loser. Finley's agent was right. He is no leader....Brady or both Manning's have accomplished so much more than him yet you never see them do this gun shot or championship belt bs.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Seems like Bears fans have an inherent, irrational hatred of all-things-Packers. Who knew?
BeaverCleaver
Footballguy
mad sweeney
Footballguy
If that we're the only bad call maybe. But there's the whole problem of their scoring drive being handed to them by the refs to deal with. Rogers didn't do enough on that drive, he needed help.He did enough to win the game. The referees handed the game to Seattle.His comments were spot on, and admirable.Nothing about what he said was admirable. He sounds like a whiny baby. It's not like he did much to win that game when he had every opportunity to.Obviously he has more of an agenda than someone whose team DIDN'T just get screwed by the refs....but that said, I admire him for saying it. Between this and saying the call was "awful" in his press conference last night, he surely has a hefty fine coming his way.I don't see what's soabout this?
CurlyDumps
Footballguy
He's also right. Rodgers' little finger-gun was so douchey. And the defense shoved it right back in his face, with authority. It was the Seattle offense that basically lost them the game.Chest thumping from a Seahawk fan after last night's entertainment.
coolnerd
Footballguy
Green bay might need to more worried about not having the QB sacked 8 times in a half while running the ball just 3 times. they could have done something about not getting into position to be screwed.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
drummer
Footballguy
Chest pump that asterisk!'ImTheScientist said:Why wouldn't I? Held the pack to 12 points.'scrumptrulescent said:Chest thumping from a Seahawk fan after last night's entertainment.
Short Corner
Footballguy
Do you have a link to this?The replacements have been under a gag order from the NFL since they have been hired.'MDSkinner said:You know, the real ref talked about this a bit after the game with Gruden and Tirico and he pointed out that the kind of push off that Tate did (which was clearly a push off but it was not like he decapitated the defender or anything) is often ignored in those situations, so that they will just let the play speak for itself.'Raider Nation said:Perhaps we should turn our outrage toward Golden Tate instead.
Reporter: "Did you push off?"
Tate: "I don't know what you're talking about."
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
Jerry Markbreit was an NFL official for 33 years, the referee in eight conference championships and four Super Bowls.
He never saw anything close to what he witnessed Monday night.
Markbreit was at home outside of Chicago, watching Green Bay play at Seattle, and — like millions of other viewers — he was stunned by the officiating calls that were made, the ones that weren't made, and the Seahawks' game-winning Hail Mary that wasn't a catch but an interception.
Photos: Was it a touchdown or an interception?
"I don't like to see injustice at all," Markbreit said by phone Tuesday morning. "And I think that injustice has been served on our officials. But this is injustice against a team that deserved to win this game, and it's terrible. It makes you feel bad. It puts a stain on officiating everywhere.
"The officials that work all the other sports look at this thing and say, 'My gosh! How could the NFL put these inexperienced guys, to represent the officiating world, on the biggest stage they have? Shame on them.'"
Markbreit, 77, who retired as a game official in 1999, has spent the past decade as an officiating trainer with the league. When the league locked out the officials in June, the trainers were told their services would not be needed either.
Watching Monday's game, Markbreit found it especially galling that, when the two officials in the end zone had opposite calls, one calling a touchback or time out and the other a touchdown, the referee didn't step in get both zebras on the same page.
"This is a routine play from our guys," he said. "It's a wonderful play, and it's a great play to officiate, and it's a great play to get correct.
"The head referee should come down. Anytime you have a play where you have two decisions — one yes, one no — the referee comes down, 'What's going on guys?' that's negotiation. That's what a referee does. He doesn't just call fouls, he negotiates the game."
He never saw anything close to what he witnessed Monday night.
Markbreit was at home outside of Chicago, watching Green Bay play at Seattle, and — like millions of other viewers — he was stunned by the officiating calls that were made, the ones that weren't made, and the Seahawks' game-winning Hail Mary that wasn't a catch but an interception.
Photos: Was it a touchdown or an interception?
"I don't like to see injustice at all," Markbreit said by phone Tuesday morning. "And I think that injustice has been served on our officials. But this is injustice against a team that deserved to win this game, and it's terrible. It makes you feel bad. It puts a stain on officiating everywhere.
"The officials that work all the other sports look at this thing and say, 'My gosh! How could the NFL put these inexperienced guys, to represent the officiating world, on the biggest stage they have? Shame on them.'"
Markbreit, 77, who retired as a game official in 1999, has spent the past decade as an officiating trainer with the league. When the league locked out the officials in June, the trainers were told their services would not be needed either.
Watching Monday's game, Markbreit found it especially galling that, when the two officials in the end zone had opposite calls, one calling a touchback or time out and the other a touchdown, the referee didn't step in get both zebras on the same page.
"This is a routine play from our guys," he said. "It's a wonderful play, and it's a great play to officiate, and it's a great play to get correct.
"The head referee should come down. Anytime you have a play where you have two decisions — one yes, one no — the referee comes down, 'What's going on guys?' that's negotiation. That's what a referee does. He doesn't just call fouls, he negotiates the game."
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
Cheapens the game. Nfl should be ashamed
sho nuff
Footballguy
Exposed for 3 weeks.Your Bears got beat...AGAIN by the Packers.How many times do we have to keep beating them before you understand the Packers are simply better than them.Overrated.Super Bowl Champs...15-1 season to follow.Seems they were rated just fine.Yeah...if the Packers had decided to just run the ball in the first half...they coulda shoulda woulda....blah blah blah...If Jay had decided not to keep throwing it to the guys in Green and Gold (AGAIN) they coulda shoulda woulda....Nice to see you trying to chime in...but as usual, you just come off looking foolish.'Sweetness_34 said:
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Good work A-Rod!
No way this thing gets done without the MVP stepping in.
MVP, Superbowl Champ, dates supermodels AND interrupts his superstar schedule mid-season to resolve this nasty labor dispute, thereby protecting the NFL owners from their own greedy stupidity and rescuing the game we all love.
Let's all acknowledge the huge debt of gratitude we owe this great American hero today!
No way this thing gets done without the MVP stepping in.
MVP, Superbowl Champ, dates supermodels AND interrupts his superstar schedule mid-season to resolve this nasty labor dispute, thereby protecting the NFL owners from their own greedy stupidity and rescuing the game we all love.
Let's all acknowledge the huge debt of gratitude we owe this great American hero today!
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Lol.... He's a turd. Loved seeing Bruce Irvin discount double check him. He should have never pulled the pistol signal after the first play of the game.Good work A-Rod!
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Good work A-Rod!
He's already been immortalized by the US Treasury Department, on the $5 bill.
Run It Up
Footballguy
He should have cried even more after the week 1 loss.Maybe half the NFL wouldnt have lost a game inbetween now and then had he. Why we havent heard everyone else cry about it I couldnt tell you, must be an mvp thing. But then that doesnt explain Brady not complaining about all the terrible calls, what a pickle were in.Good work A-Rod!
Run It Up
Footballguy
He may have been signaling first down, but he did it by shooting imaginary guns at the opposing team, pretty clearly. Ive been looking everywhere for video or a gif to no avail, but if you can find one please, prove us all wrong.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
It's an example.... One of many. I use to like the guy but the little things like that are happening all the time. It seems all the talk about how great he is has got to his head.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Actually, quite clearly he was pointing them quickly down the field and not actually at someone...since he was further downfield than most of them after running past them.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Pointing first down with pistol fingers is a sign talk about him being great has gone to his head.And just the talk of it...not the SB MVP or actual MVP awards going to his head...but the talk of it right?Hilarious.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Please read what I'm writing. It's an example....one of many.
Man In The Box
Footballguy
If only Aaron Rodgers had Allstate instead of State Farm, he could have avoided mayhem like this.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Seems to be an example of people like you overreacting to something very small that has zero to do with ego or getting a big head.Especially to anyone who has read or listened to Rodgers talking about the little celebration things he does.But carry on the nitpicking if you wish.
Run It Up
Footballguy
I was wrong about the call, im just waiting for someone to prove me wrong about this, and until then its hilarious.
PainTrain
Footballguy
I think the apology is hilarious. You can't apologize for someone else's behavior. Especially if you are apologizing for how you feel like they screwed you over.
Apologizing is expressing regret for your actions. As in "I'm sorry I..."
This is the opposite of that.
It's like apologizing that God hates you. You're not sorry, you're just sad.
Apologizing is expressing regret for your actions. As in "I'm sorry I..."
This is the opposite of that.
It's like apologizing that God hates you. You're not sorry, you're just sad.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Actually...its quite smart and calculated.He is ingratiating himself even more with his fans.The point was to do something that the NFL, the real refs, Goodell...all of them forgot again about....THE FANS!!!Rodgers knows what he is doing in that manner and in the world of his PR.
Going to have to disagree. To non-Packer fans, I think this hurts his image more than it helps it. The statement comes across as a whine thinly disguised as a "I'm doing this for you...the fans"
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Oh right - I'm sure it's just a miraculous coincidence that these mortal enemies finally bridge the enormous gap and hammer out a contract one day after the MVP steps in …
sho nuff
Footballguy
How many non-Packer fans listen to ESPN Milwaukee?Sure, it will make other news when it gets picked up.His move it to go for his fans.Those that are non-Packer fans or non-Rodgers fans won't like much of what he is going to say anyway.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Its a festivus miracle.
DoubleG
Footballguy
This part, I agree with you about. He certainly made himself even more popular in Green Bay. Unfortunately I think he also, however, alienated a lot of people that respected before the contrived apology. It is certainly "calculated" (as opposed to heartfelt) - he did with a clear goal in mind - to blame the loss on the replacement officials. Smart? Well, if he considers drawing a few thousand Packer fans closer while alieanating others, than sure. Before his apology, I respected Aaron Rodgers as a football player and as (as close as I could tell) a decent guy. This "apology" definately took him down a few notches in my book. If it raised him a few notches in Packer fan's eyes - and that's all he cares about, then I guess it was smart.McCarthy showed more class than Rodgers in dealing with the situation. "The apology" may have played well in Wisconsin, and with Packer fans in general, but I guarantee it didn't fly nearly as well other places.
Come on really? He certainly knows no matter what station he's on that his audience isn't limited to that small subset. And those that are Packer or Rodger fans are going to like him pretty much regardless of what he says.
sho nuff
Footballguy
I do agree that I liked the way McCarthy handled it.I think Rodgers also knows that he was going after his fans to show "he cares".I don't think he just blames that game on them though.Again...have not heard that whole interview...but from almost any other game that has gone poorly, he puts a ton of it on himself and always has. I would be shocked if he has not done so in some form since that game.Woodson apparently did yesterday at practice saying that the time to complain was done...nobody lost the game except themselves and so on.
If this was his true intention, than I have less of a problem with what he said. It just came across to me as this was not his true intention, but instead he used it as a vehicle to complain about the refs.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Perhaps...but he had already done that in his presser.Goes back to his comments "apologizing" to fans for the pro-bowl.
Master of Past and Present
Footballguy
Bogus apology because he apologized for other groups and didn't apologize for the one thing the players could control and should be apologizing for.
Player safety has been part of the reason people want the real guys back because the replacements were letting too many illegal hits go un-flagged and then tempers would flare after plays. While part of that is certainly on the officials, a bigger part should be on the players.
I have no problem with the players holding more if it isn't going to be called or pushing more if PI isn't getting called and trying to get away with stuff like that. But they showed a true disregard for their fellow players by taking cheap/late shots on each other. Just because they could get away with it without getting flagged doesn't mean they should do it. They are the ones who are taking extra shots just because they can and apparently need Dad around to stop them and punish them for it.
The players should not be getting huge pass on the whole situation just because the negotiations didn't involve them. No one forced them to push the limits of what they can get away with. There are former players suing because they didn't know the effects of certain hits or the amounts of hits to the head but even though the players these days are well aware of the effects, if they can get away with those hits, they are way too happy to give them.
People just seem to want to blame the Commish/owners and the bad officiating for the drop in player safety the first few weeks but its the players that were willing to take the extra shots just because they could. They were the ones that made the choice to potentially hurt their fellow players. They aren't stupid or clueless, they knew what they were doing. They could have pulled up from some of those hits and now they will start doing so because the normal guys are back. It's their fault player safety was compromised because they apparently have the impulse control of a child and need Dad to step in. There is a difference between whether you can do something and whether you should. The players saw the chances they could do cheap/late hits and their logic said they should. It's amazing that they seem to take little to no blame because the league/officials have to save them from themselves.
I'd love to hear a big name like Rodgers apologize for that.
Player safety has been part of the reason people want the real guys back because the replacements were letting too many illegal hits go un-flagged and then tempers would flare after plays. While part of that is certainly on the officials, a bigger part should be on the players.
I have no problem with the players holding more if it isn't going to be called or pushing more if PI isn't getting called and trying to get away with stuff like that. But they showed a true disregard for their fellow players by taking cheap/late shots on each other. Just because they could get away with it without getting flagged doesn't mean they should do it. They are the ones who are taking extra shots just because they can and apparently need Dad around to stop them and punish them for it.
The players should not be getting huge pass on the whole situation just because the negotiations didn't involve them. No one forced them to push the limits of what they can get away with. There are former players suing because they didn't know the effects of certain hits or the amounts of hits to the head but even though the players these days are well aware of the effects, if they can get away with those hits, they are way too happy to give them.
People just seem to want to blame the Commish/owners and the bad officiating for the drop in player safety the first few weeks but its the players that were willing to take the extra shots just because they could. They were the ones that made the choice to potentially hurt their fellow players. They aren't stupid or clueless, they knew what they were doing. They could have pulled up from some of those hits and now they will start doing so because the normal guys are back. It's their fault player safety was compromised because they apparently have the impulse control of a child and need Dad to step in. There is a difference between whether you can do something and whether you should. The players saw the chances they could do cheap/late hits and their logic said they should. It's amazing that they seem to take little to no blame because the league/officials have to save them from themselves.
I'd love to hear a big name like Rodgers apologize for that.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Actually, that's going to happen every single week (barring the extremely odd tie game).He should have cried even more after the week 1 loss.Maybe half the NFL wouldnt have lost a game inbetween now and then had he. Why we havent heard everyone else cry about it I couldnt tell you, must be an mvp thing. But then that doesnt explain Brady not complaining about all the terrible calls, what a pickle were in.Good work A-Rod!
No way this thing gets done without the MVP stepping in.
MVP, Superbowl Champ, dates supermodels AND interrupts his superstar schedule mid-season to resolve this nasty labor dispute, thereby protecting the NFL owners from their own greedy stupidity and rescuing the game we all love.
Let's all acknowledge the huge debt of gratitude we owe this great American hero today!
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Whether or not Aaron gets up there and passive aggressively blames the refs for the loss, without mentioning all the calls that wen his way, it's the hail mary that got the deal done, not the guy who got stuffed for 60 minutes and needed bad PI calls to lead a TD drive.
CapnJB
Footballguy
Here you go. The Gun SlingerETA I don't really think that looks like he's signaling a first down. He was walking back to the huddle when he did it. Looks like he brought a finger gun to a sack fight.
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John 14:6
Jesus is Lord!
Run It Up
Footballguy
It may have turned into a complaint but when I initially brought it up it was at the end of the game and I was joking that he brought a lot of the punishment on himself for antagonizing the Seahawks. He came out, ran for a first down, pew pew, 9 sacks. I thought it was funny, everyone else thought he was signaling a first down, which he may be, but it looks like he is poking the beast.
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Dark Matter
Footballguy
The guy apologizes to the fans, all fans for the debacle that is the NFL with replacement refs. He expresses everyones frustration including his own and is chastized, called a doosh nozzle and is accused of having alterior motives. Bunch of self centered, jealous nobody wannabes that post on the internet. What have you ever done? You play in the NFL? You know how it feels to do what he does? Not that any of you haters would ever have the chance to run for a first down on MNF but how would you react? Go on posting your absolute theories and self assured analysis to make yourself feel better. In the mean time, #12 is getting ready to play the New Orlean Saints. What are you doing?
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I know Saints fans can legitimately say they have an argument that perhaps 2 of their losses were due to the direct bad calls of the replacement refs.
I bet at least a quarter to a half the teams in the NFL can make an argument that they wrongly lost at least one game in the first three due to a bad call that regular refs would likely not have made.
The NFL should apologize.
And people should talk about the influence of the following in bringing the real refs home:
- Gambling
- Fantasy Football
- Goodell's (not the League's) own reputation.
I bet at least a quarter to a half the teams in the NFL can make an argument that they wrongly lost at least one game in the first three due to a bad call that regular refs would likely not have made.
The NFL should apologize.
And people should talk about the influence of the following in bringing the real refs home:
- Gambling
- Fantasy Football
- Goodell's (not the League's) own reputation.
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