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We should know more as the week goes along and see how much he is practicing. I would guess that you'd know for sure by Friday night. If not, then the Packers are probably trying to make Miami guess.When are we supposed to know, gameday or before ?
Packers prepping for life without Rodgers?Posted on: October 13, 2010 10:06 amScore: 106Rate This Post:Rate This Post:Fair Good Cool Awesome I Love It! Posted by Will BrinsonOkay, "life without" is strong, since Aaron Rodgers should be back sooner than later from his concussion, but there's at least a decent chance that he misses the Miami game this weekend, and the Packers are preparing for that by giving Matt Flynn more than his normal number of reps with the first team.Although Flynn doesn't think there's anything really THAT wrong with Rodgers."He seemed normal," Flynn said. "We were talking, having a normal conversation, playing cards this morning. He doesn’t seem foggy or cloudy or anything."(Quick aside: I did a lot of chuckling over the obvious notion that a) Flynn really, really, really wants Rodgers to be healthy and the probably-not-true-theory that b) while Rodgers is in a concussed state, Flynn's convincing him to play cards and robbing him blind.)QB coach Tom Clements also referred to Rodgers as "very lucid" throughout the whole process of getting his bell rung, so that's good news, but no one should expect to see him back at practice before Thursday or Friday at the earliest, and still worry a little bit about Rodgers playing on Sunday."It’s definitely possible," Packers coach Mike McCarthy said of Rodgers missing a game. "I know at a minimum he’ll miss some practice time."On the bright side, Rodgers being sidelined might finally beat the "YOU REALLY SHOULD CONSIDER HAVING A DECENT RUNNING GAME" message everyone's been sending McCarthy's way into his head.For more NFL news, rumors and analysis, follow @cbssportsnfl on Twitter and subscribe to our RSS Feed.
(Quick aside: I did a lot of chuckling over the obvious notion that a) Flynn really, really, really wants Rodgers to be healthy and the probably-not-true-theory that b) while Rodgers is in a concussed state, Flynn's convincing him to play cards and robbing him blind.)
Still too late for getting a replacement. My backup QB is Palmer who is on bye... time to hit the waiver wire for Hasselbeck. Barf.Side note - Sir Psycho your FFL team in your sig will be out 6-10 weeks... looks like you'll miss the playoffs with 6-10 straight losses.Sir Psycho said:When are we supposed to know, gameday or before ?
Not sure what Miami would have to lose by preparing for Rodgers as if he was playing. If all of a sudden they had to face Matty Flynn instead, my guess is they would do a little dance of joy and not panic over it.eoMMan said:We should know more as the week goes along and see how much he is practicing. I would guess that you'd know for sure by Friday night. If not, then the Packers are probably trying to make Miami guess.Sir Psycho said:When are we supposed to know, gameday or before ?
Yea, this is where I'm at.This is a tough one b/c if he plays the chances he leaves the game after a big hit will be substantially higher than normal. There's nothing worse than a big goose egg in the QB line on gameday.
luckily some guy dropped VY last week and was able to snag him. Hopefully it's not a long absence.Still too late for getting a replacement. My backup QB is Palmer who is on bye... time to hit the waiver wire for Hasselbeck. Barf.Side note - Sir Psycho your FFL team in your sig will be out 6-10 weeks... looks like you'll miss the playoffs with 6-10 straight losses.Sir Psycho said:When are we supposed to know, gameday or before ?![]()
I'd guess we'll have a pretty good idea by Thursday. He could to a Cutler type thing and practice in some form and then be shut down but if he completely misses today and tomorrow's practice, that'll say a lot. He's got a great grasp of the system and he's a guy that could show up Friday for practice and still be ok, but I'd be surprised if it came to that.My gut guess is that Bedard is right and its' about 75% that he plays. Although that's purely a guess. JSir Psycho said:When are we supposed to know, gameday or before ?
I don't understand why Cutler is already coming back and why Rodgers would even attempt to play.Give them a couple of weeks off and then bring them back. The worst case scenario is to have them take another blow to the head(which doesn't have to be as significant this time) and them be out the entire season or end up like Aikman/Young and end a career premature.This is a tough one b/c if he plays the chances he leaves the game after a big hit will be substantially higher than normal. There's nothing worse than a big goose egg in the QB line on gameday.
Aaron Rodgers-QB- Packers Oct. 13 - 2:41 pm et
Packers coach Mike McCarthy doesn't expect to have another update on Aaron Rodgers (concussion) until Thursday morning.
Rodgers will undergo his concussion testing at that time. Despite "optimism" in the Packers' organization, Rodgers' status remains very much in doubt for Week 6. His outward symptoms are not apparent, but teams have been extra cautious about concussions throughout the first five weeks of the season.
Source: Greg Bedard on Twitter
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id...making-progressI think he plays. McCarthy seems like he's talking it up quite a bit for gamesmanship, maybe.Jason Wilde of ESPNMilwaukee.com: "Aaron Rodgers didn't take a single snap Wednesday, and yet, when the Green Bay Packers quarterback left the locker room after practice, he did so having given subtle indications that he play in Sunday's game against the Miami Dolphins at Lambeau Field. Now, nothing he did was proof that he will pass all of his required post-concussion cognition tests, get the go-ahead from an independent neurologist and make his 39th consecutive start (including playoffs). But when someone suggested to him that he didn't seem like a guy coming off a concussion, Rodgers smirked. 'What concussion?' he said as he walked out of the room."
How can he be ok...he doesn't even remember being concussed...and ol Flynn took all his money playing cards on the plane that night.http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id...making-progressI think he plays. McCarthy seems like he's talking it up quite a bit for gamesmanship, maybe.Jason Wilde of ESPNMilwaukee.com: "Aaron Rodgers didn't take a single snap Wednesday, and yet, when the Green Bay Packers quarterback left the locker room after practice, he did so having given subtle indications that he play in Sunday's game against the Miami Dolphins at Lambeau Field. Now, nothing he did was proof that he will pass all of his required post-concussion cognition tests, get the go-ahead from an independent neurologist and make his 39th consecutive start (including playoffs). But when someone suggested to him that he didn't seem like a guy coming off a concussion, Rodgers smirked. 'What concussion?' he said as he walked out of the room."
There are different severities of concussions. The way Cutler got knocked around that game it wouldn't be shocking if his was worse the Rodgers.I don't understand why Cutler is already coming back and why Rodgers would even attempt to play.Give them a couple of weeks off and then bring them back. The worst case scenario is to have them take another blow to the head(which doesn't have to be as significant this time) and them be out the entire season or end up like Aikman/Young and end a career premature.This is a tough one b/c if he plays the chances he leaves the game after a big hit will be substantially higher than normal. There's nothing worse than a big goose egg in the QB line on gameday.
Aaron Rodgers-QB- Packers Oct. 13 - 11:47 pm et According to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, there's "only a slight chance" that Matt Flynn will start over Aaron Rodgers (concussion) in Week 6."At the very least, it's a good experience for him," writes beat reporter Greg Bedard of Flynn's increased first-team practice reps. The Packers gave no update on their starting quarterback's status Wednesday, but Bedard makes it sound like they're tentatively planning on giving Rodgers the nod against the Dolphins. Coach Mike McCarthy will shed more light on Thursday.Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel
Plus they're saying that was Cutler's 5th known concussion. He says it won't change the way he plays, but he might have to go to Manning school of taking a dive if he wants a long career. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...0,2778612.storyThere are different severities of concussions. The way Cutler got knocked around that game it wouldn't be shocking if his was worse the Rodgers.I don't understand why Cutler is already coming back and why Rodgers would even attempt to play.This is a tough one b/c if he plays the chances he leaves the game after a big hit will be substantially higher than normal. There's nothing worse than a big goose egg in the QB line on gameday.
Give them a couple of weeks off and then bring them back. The worst case scenario is to have them take another blow to the head(which doesn't have to be as significant this time) and them be out the entire season or end up like Aikman/Young and end a career premature.
I don't disagree with either point. But is the risk worth the reward? One game vs the rest of the season??? That was my point.Plus they're saying that was Cutler's 5th known concussion. He says it won't change the way he plays, but he might have to go to Manning school of taking a dive if he wants a long career. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...0,2778612.storyThere are different severities of concussions. The way Cutler got knocked around that game it wouldn't be shocking if his was worse the Rodgers.I don't understand why Cutler is already coming back and why Rodgers would even attempt to play.This is a tough one b/c if he plays the chances he leaves the game after a big hit will be substantially higher than normal. There's nothing worse than a big goose egg in the QB line on gameday.
Give them a couple of weeks off and then bring them back. The worst case scenario is to have them take another blow to the head(which doesn't have to be as significant this time) and them be out the entire season or end up like Aikman/Young and end a career premature.
If he passes the tests...are the risks this week any greater than those next week...or the week after?I don't disagree with either point. But is the risk worth the reward? One game vs the rest of the season??? That was my point.Plus they're saying that was Cutler's 5th known concussion. He says it won't change the way he plays, but he might have to go to Manning school of taking a dive if he wants a long career. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...0,2778612.storyThere are different severities of concussions. The way Cutler got knocked around that game it wouldn't be shocking if his was worse the Rodgers.I don't understand why Cutler is already coming back and why Rodgers would even attempt to play.This is a tough one b/c if he plays the chances he leaves the game after a big hit will be substantially higher than normal. There's nothing worse than a big goose egg in the QB line on gameday.
Give them a couple of weeks off and then bring them back. The worst case scenario is to have them take another blow to the head(which doesn't have to be as significant this time) and them be out the entire season or end up like Aikman/Young and end a career premature.
They are actually. Just like a knee that is finally a go....the more time that passes...the more healed that body part will be for that week.If he passes the tests...are the risks this week any greater than those next week...or the week after?I don't disagree with either point. But is the risk worth the reward? One game vs the rest of the season??? That was my point.Plus they're saying that was Cutler's 5th known concussion. He says it won't change the way he plays, but he might have to go to Manning school of taking a dive if he wants a long career. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...0,2778612.storyThere are different severities of concussions. The way Cutler got knocked around that game it wouldn't be shocking if his was worse the Rodgers.I don't understand why Cutler is already coming back and why Rodgers would even attempt to play.
Give them a couple of weeks off and then bring them back. The worst case scenario is to have them take another blow to the head(which doesn't have to be as significant this time) and them be out the entire season or end up like Aikman/Young and end a career premature.
Not sure if McCarthy is smart enough to do that.I heard one interesting theory. That Rodgers doesn't really have a concussion, but McCarthy is saying he does so the league will stop ignoring all the head blows Rodgers has been taking. Essentially looking for a little protection for his QB, who isn't exactly getting the Manning/Brady treatment from the refs (huge understatement).![]()
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/104957959.htmlRodgers back at practice. Took vast majority of snaps during session open to media Players were in shells. No word on game status.
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what he saidI think the science is pretty conclusive now, and resting for at least ten days is essential and should be required for ALL concussions, as the risks are just too high for severe brain damage down the road if a team puts pressure on a player too return early/player wants to come back early/etc...hopefully the Packers do the RIGHT thing, and the SMART thing, but not all teams are the same. The brain doesn't heal overnight, or in three days, ideally he would be able to take a full 30 days, at a minimum, but we all know the pressure to win makes that a pipe dream. But playing this week? A concussion is a concussion, severe or not, and the Packers would and should be ashamed if they allow him to play. This isn't a joke, and it isn't your father's NFL, a brain injury shouldn't be dealt with lightly and Rodgers shouldn't even be on the practice field, imo...maybe next week, if Rodgers passes all tests with flying colors, but 7 days is too soon, way too soom, and it shouldn't even be up for debate.
I'm afraid that I cannot agree with you. A hang nail is nothing like having your arm cut off at the elbow, and treating them the same is ridiculous. Good grief.If all tests are conclusive that he has the same cognitive abilities as he had before the concussion, then he and the team should be free to decide whether or not the player can resume standard activities.I will say that the thing that bothers me most about this is the inconsistent calling of the game from crew to crew especially regarding the supposed safety of the players [helmet-to-helmet and defense-less hits]. The Redskins piled it on throughout the game, and there were at least 3 instances where IMO an unsportsmanlike penalty should have resulted against the Redskins. One was after Rodgers ran and initiated the standard QB slide ... A Redskin who had plenty of time to avoid hitting him, did not avoid him. What's the point of the rule if you are going to let the Defender hit the QB? They shouldn't be allowed within a county if the QB starts the slide. The interception was also one of them. A Redskin defender clearly hit him helmet-to-helmet and after the ball was out ... Breath on Peyton Manning and the flag comes out instantly!It really should be applied evenly for each game and from crew to crew.In fact, I see no reason why this specific penalty shouldn't be a reviewable action.I think the science is pretty conclusive now, and resting for at least ten days is essential and should be required for ALL concussions, as the risks are just too high for severe brain damage down the road if a team puts pressure on a player too return early/player wants to come back early/etc...hopefully the Packers do the RIGHT thing, and the SMART thing, but not all teams are the same. The brain doesn't heal overnight, or in three days, ideally he would be able to take a full 30 days, at a minimum, but we all know the pressure to win makes that a pipe dream. But playing this week? A concussion is a concussion, severe or not, and the Packers would and should be ashamed if they allow him to play. This isn't a joke, and it isn't your father's NFL, a brain injury shouldn't be dealt with lightly and Rodgers shouldn't even be on the practice field, imo...maybe next week, if Rodgers passes all tests with flying colors, but 7 days is too soon, way too soom, and it shouldn't even be up for debate.