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[ArcticEdge]

I think he will be sacked by the Vikes front four many times.

[from the crowd] Now that's a good ####### opinion!!! [from the crowd]

 

[Todem]

It is going to be a long year in GB this season.

Thanks for that dynamite observation...from the guy claiming Javon Walker is 100% ready to go...It will be a much easier year in GB than it will be in Oakland buddy.

Um...let's see...yeah Rodgers...first year starting (I could care less how long he has been charting plays and carrying a clip board). Replacing Favre will be very hard. That team will take a big step back. Teams are licking their chops at the sight of a first year starter with how many regular season starts under his belt? Yeah that's what I thought, zero.

And yes Walker is 100% ready to play this season. I think the Raiders medical staff checked him out before Al wrote a fat up front check.

Keep drinking that Rodgers Kool Aide along with Ryan Grant and Jennings (who is a great talent at WR but now in a ?? situation).

Im glad you could care less how long he has been learning how to play the pro game. I think it will make a big difference when the season starts between what he does and what Russell does this year.Replacing Favre will be tough...but so will playing QB for the Oakland Raiders (they draft that high so often for a reason).

Big step back? Define big? I think they still win 10 games this year and possibly win the division.

Teams are licking their chops to go after him and go one on one with Driver, Jones, and Jennings? I hope so. Blitz all you want, thats why the Packers have 2 very good Tackles to take care of those ends.

Denver's medical staff checked him out too...again, how did that end up for them?

Rodger's kool-aid? What have I said about him that is all that much kool-aid? That he will not struggle nearly as bad as you think? That he has a very good supporting cast? That he has a defense to back him up so he does not have to do as much on his own?

Grant? That he is a good back in a good situation?

What have I said about Jennings? That he likely won't see 12 TDs this year? Yeah...this kool-aid is good.

And I would not call being the #2 poised to eventually be the #1 in GB a ?? situation. He looked just fine hauling in a Rodgers pass for a nice score against Dallas.

GB will be lucky to win 9 games. 2006 Denver had a rookie QB and was a mess. Javon in his first year hauled in 69 for 1084 and 8TD's and finished ranked 9th in non PPR and 12th in PPR. 2007 before he hurt his knee hauled in 9 for 119 and 8 for 101. Injuries happen.

One game that Dallas had no film, no tendendices to game plan for...not what I would use to judge a projected season out of a GREEEN QB.

Let's agree to disagree Dragon master and check back week 8 for a pulse on GB's season.

 

[sho nuff]

Yes that is the point....b/c there is more pressure in a defending NFC North and NFC championship reaching team....than a team that is a perenial loser, that is my point. Yes or no?And for the Dline to be alright....they need to have Harrell get into gear.

Sure...there is more pressure...but that perennial loser is a loser for a reason. Because they are not nearly as good of a team as GB is.Either Harrell or Jolly come back strong from his injury. Same with Cole.or hope one of the DE's steps up and they can move Jenkins into the middle (where he may be more for 3rd downs with KGB at DE).Plenty of things to rotate on that line...its one of the least of my concerns.

They are generally a perennial loser because of QB play. Look at the losing franchises...detriot, arizona, miami(still struggling since marino), oakland, 49ers....its all QB play. GB struggled before Favre got there as well.I think Jenkins should be moved back inside on passing downs, that is where he could excel.

Because of QB play?They have had plenty of issues with WRs, RBs, Oline, Defense...and so on (crappy ownership is a good start as well)GB struggled before Ron Wolf got there and put together a team...starting on the player side with Favre.Several things aided in the building of those teams by Wolf...Reggie White coming in, Favre, Holmgren...the advent of the Salary Cap and free agency as we know it today really helped GB build back up.To ever say it is all QB play is completely foolish and ignorant IMO.GB's struggles in the 80s were not because of QB play alone. Dickey actually played the hell out of that position...the defense was awful.

Then if its not QB play why has their been a QB drafted in the top 3 in the NFL draft for 8 years in a row? QB is the single most important position in sports....period!To be successful without a good to great QB. A team must be outstanding in almost every other facet of the game. See Ravens, Bucs, Bears,SD(altho Rivers is developing).

Because QB is the flashy position that all people love when their team picks one...but the foundation of good teams is based on Oline and Dline.You mean the Ravens that won a super bowl with Trent Dilfer? The Bucs who won one with Brad Johnson? The Bears who got to one with Rex Grossman?Want to know what those teams had in common...dominant offensive and defensive lines.Tennessee got to the playoffs last year with poor QB play. Why? Because their offensive and defensive line played well all year.Do you think Tom Brady looks nearly as good if he is under pressure all the time? No...not knocking his talent...but he and Manning and Favre have had big advantages by having Olines that protect them very well.What I am saying is its not all about the QB as you claimed...

 

[sho nuff]

I think he will be sacked by the Vikes front four many times.

He very well might be...of course, he may light up that secondary quite a bit too as the Oline keeps him safe.

 

[sho nuff]

GB will be lucky to win 9 games. 2006 Denver had a rookie QB and was a mess. Javon in his first year hauled in 69 for 1084 and 8TD's and finished ranked 9th in non PPR and 12th in PPR. 2007 before he hurt his knee hauled in 9 for 119 and 8 for 101. Injuries happen.One game that Dallas had no film, no tendendices to game plan for...not what I would use to judge a projected season out of a GREEEN QB.Let's agree to disagree Dragon master and check back week 8 for a pulse on GB's season. :(

Lucky to win 9 huh? I disagree...I think 9 is quite easily done for this team.What does Denver's QB have to do with Javon's knee acting up after the Docs had checked him out. How many extra procedures has he had on his knee?Again...if Dallas did not prepare for short passes and WRs running after the catch...than they were stupid. What Rodgers did is what Favre had been doing all year...throwing underneath and letting the WRs run. What Jennings did on that play has little to do with some supposed lack of game planning for a short pass that he took the distance.

 

[Todem]

GB will be lucky to win 9 games. 2006 Denver had a rookie QB and was a mess. Javon in his first year hauled in 69 for 1084 and 8TD's and finished ranked 9th in non PPR and 12th in PPR. 2007 before he hurt his knee hauled in 9 for 119 and 8 for 101. Injuries happen.One game that Dallas had no film, no tendendices to game plan for...not what I would use to judge a projected season out of a GREEEN QB.Let's agree to disagree Dragon master and check back week 8 for a pulse on GB's season.

Lucky to win 9 huh? I disagree...I think 9 is quite easily done for this team.What does Denver's QB have to do with Javon's knee acting up after the Docs had checked him out. How many extra procedures has he had on his knee?Again...if Dallas did not prepare for short passes and WRs running after the catch...than they were stupid. What Rodgers did is what Favre had been doing all year...throwing underneath and letting the WRs run. What Jennings did on that play has little to do with some supposed lack of game planning for a short pass that he took the distance.

My point was depsite having green rookie half the year and general turmoil at the QB position his first year in Denver, he had a very productive season. The fact he re-injured his knee is just something that you can not predict. Structure wise the knee was sound going into his first year with Denver and now again I am sure he is as healthy has he can be going into Oakland. Man he must have burned you at some point.As far as game planning...Give a tam team a wekk and some film on a QB and they can plan how to attack him and what tendencies he has. Then they can disuise coverages, shift players, etc etc etc. If your gonna base Rodgers success on a half of football then go ahead.I like the Packers. i think they have a bunch of great talent. It will take them a year to recover from losing one of the best ever to play thre position. And for the record Brian Brohom will end up being this teams QB of the future starting as early as some point this season if Rodgers either does not hold up or plays really bad. Brohom has more in the noggin and in the arm IMO then Rodgers.Later.

 

[sho nuff]

GB will be lucky to win 9 games. 2006 Denver had a rookie QB and was a mess. Javon in his first year hauled in 69 for 1084 and 8TD's and finished ranked 9th in non PPR and 12th in PPR. 2007 before he hurt his knee hauled in 9 for 119 and 8 for 101. Injuries happen.One game that Dallas had no film, no tendendices to game plan for...not what I would use to judge a projected season out of a GREEEN QB.Let's agree to disagree Dragon master and check back week 8 for a pulse on GB's season.

Lucky to win 9 huh? I disagree...I think 9 is quite easily done for this team.What does Denver's QB have to do with Javon's knee acting up after the Docs had checked him out. How many extra procedures has he had on his knee?Again...if Dallas did not prepare for short passes and WRs running after the catch...than they were stupid. What Rodgers did is what Favre had been doing all year...throwing underneath and letting the WRs run. What Jennings did on that play has little to do with some supposed lack of game planning for a short pass that he took the distance.

My point was depsite having green rookie half the year and general turmoil at the QB position his first year in Denver, he had a very productive season. The fact he re-injured his knee is just something that you can not predict. Structure wise the knee was sound going into his first year with Denver and now again I am sure he is as healthy has he can be going into Oakland. Man he must have burned you at some point.As far as game planning...Give a tam team a wekk and some film on a QB and they can plan how to attack him and what tendencies he has. Then they can disuise coverages, shift players, etc etc etc. If your gonna base Rodgers success on a half of football then go ahead.I like the Packers. i think they have a bunch of great talent. It will take them a year to recover from losing one of the best ever to play thre position. And for the record Brian Brohom will end up being this teams QB of the future starting as early as some point this season if Rodgers either does not hold up or plays really bad. Brohom has more in the noggin and in the arm IMO then Rodgers.Later.

That is great that he had a productive season. None of that has anything to do with the docs checking his knee out and saying similar things to what Oakland is apparently saying...and his knee still gave him issues. Im not talking about his possible production if healthy...Im talking about not thinking his knee will hold up.So...they game planned for the short passing game and quick release of Favre...but then got burned because they had not planned for the short passing game and quick release that Rodgers was showing them? Again...watch that game...Rodgers followed the game plan that GB had been running nearly all year. If anything, Favre got away from it more in the first half going deep much more than he had been and getting away from the shorter passes.Im not basing his success on one half. Im saying it showed promise...and that Jennings looked just fine running after the catch on a pass from Rodgers. You have to realize Jennings got to play with Rodgers quite a bit in practice as they are both young players. Im sure they are quite familiar with each other.Brohm very well might be the next big QB in GB. I have no problem with that. But Brohm has yet to show he has more in the arm than Rodgers.

 

[Almas_4th_Child]

Yes that is the point....b/c there is more pressure in a defending NFC North and NFC championship reaching team....than a team that is a perenial loser, that is my point. Yes or no?

And for the Dline to be alright....they need to have Harrell get into gear.

Sure...there is more pressure...but that perennial loser is a loser for a reason. Because they are not nearly as good of a team as GB is.Either Harrell or Jolly come back strong from his injury. Same with Cole.

or hope one of the DE's steps up and they can move Jenkins into the middle (where he may be more for 3rd downs with KGB at DE).

Plenty of things to rotate on that line...its one of the least of my concerns.

They are generally a perennial loser because of QB play. Look at the losing franchises...detriot, arizona, miami(still struggling since marino), oakland, 49ers....its all QB play. GB struggled before Favre got there as well.I think Jenkins should be moved back inside on passing downs, that is where he could excel.

Because of QB play?They have had plenty of issues with WRs, RBs, Oline, Defense...and so on (crappy ownership is a good start as well)

GB struggled before Ron Wolf got there and put together a team...starting on the player side with Favre.

Several things aided in the building of those teams by Wolf...Reggie White coming in, Favre, Holmgren...the advent of the Salary Cap and free agency as we know it today really helped GB build back up.

To ever say it is all QB play is completely foolish and ignorant IMO.

GB's struggles in the 80s were not because of QB play alone. Dickey actually played the hell out of that position...the defense was awful.

Then if its not QB play why has their been a QB drafted in the top 3 in the NFL draft for 8 years in a row? QB is the single most important position in sports....period!To be successful without a good to great QB. A team must be outstanding in almost every other facet of the game. See Ravens, Bucs, Bears,SD(altho Rivers is developing).

Because QB is the flashy position that all people love when their team picks oneOh so now you know more than NFL scouts? Didn't you say you weren't going to do that? I can quote you if you wish there...but the foundation of good teams is based on Oline and Dline.Yes great Oline and Dline do have their own places....but the single most important position is the QBYou mean the Ravens that won a super bowl with Trent Dilfer? The Bucs who won one with Brad Johnson? The Bears who got to one with Rex Grossman?

Want to know what those teams had in common...dominant offensive and defensive lines.They also have HOF linebackers....secondaries that returned INT's for TD's......also ST touchdowns...so like I said, without good to great QB play, it must be a TOTAL(not oline/dline) outstanding effort in all facets of the game.

Tennessee got to the playoffs last year with poor QB play. Why? Because their offensive and defensive line played well all year.Didn't Vince Young win a National Championship? Wasn't he a top 5 draft pick? I'm sure that Run game was unreal with that impressive YPC Lendale White had.....haha

Do you think Tom Brady looks nearly as good if he is under pressure all the time? No...not knocking his talent...but he and Manning and Favre have had big advantages by having Olines that protect them very well. All of these QB's are great....some of the best ever, but they make their offensive lines look better because of a feel in the pocket and a quick release. They throw the ball on time and avoid many many sacks.

What I am saying is its not all about the QB as you claimed...First and foremost....it is the QB. Then the others come into play.

 

[sho nuff]

Because QB is the flashy position that all people love when their team picks oneOh so now you know more than NFL scouts? Didn't you say you weren't going to do that? I can quote you if you wish there...but the foundation of good teams is based on Oline and Dline.Yes great Oline and Dline do have their own places....but the single most important position is the QB

You mean the Ravens that won a super bowl with Trent Dilfer? The Bucs who won one with Brad Johnson? The Bears who got to one with Rex Grossman?

Want to know what those teams had in common...dominant offensive and defensive lines.They also have HOF linebackers....secondaries that returned INT's for TD's......also ST touchdowns...so like I said, without good to great QB play, it must be a TOTAL(not oline/dline) outstanding effort in all facets of the game.

Tennessee got to the playoffs last year with poor QB play. Why? Because their offensive and defensive line played well all year.Didn't Vince Young win a National Championship? Wasn't he a top 5 draft pick? I'm sure that Run game was unreal with that impressive YPC Lendale White had.....haha

Do you think Tom Brady looks nearly as good if he is under pressure all the time? No...not knocking his talent...but he and Manning and Favre have had big advantages by having Olines that protect them very well. All of these QB's are great....some of the best ever, but they make their offensive lines look better because of a feel in the pocket and a quick release. They throw the ball on time and avoid many many sacks.

What I am saying is its not all about the QB as you claimed...First and foremost....it is the QB. Then the others come into play.

No...QBs are definitely important...but its not the end all be all.And apparently, lately, NFL scouts agree with me as you see more and more Dline going at or near the top of the draft and Oline gets more and more focus by teams.

But where do I claim to know more than an NFL scout? People remember QBs being picked at the top...the feel it is the better "value" pick. Its not always the best player for them to take. (people don't like taking LBs high either...does not make them any less important). Part of it is with paying that kind of money to a DT...teams would rather pay a QB that much. There are plenty of things that go into why QBs and RBs go high in drafts...its not always just about QB being as important as you want to make it seem.

Single most important position? Yes..but you ignore the glaring weaknesses of those putrid teams on the O and Dlines.

So you admit that great Oline and Dlines are quite important...thanks. All I needed to know. You can now quit claiming that the main reason those teams sucked was just because of the QB.

What does VY winning a national championship or rookie of the year have to do with how bad he played last year and the team winning based on the play of their Oline and the play of their defense? Yup...that little YPC that still amounted to the #5 rushing attack in the league. And by trying to slam him here...you are making more of my case for Grant having a good season. At 3.1 ypc...White ended up with 1110 yards. Do you think Grant will drop all the way to 3 yards per carry?

Not all of why those lines look good is because of quick release and pocket presence. Look at some of the best teams of all time...and they have a very strong characteristic on the O and Dlines. There is a reason people talk about the importance of winning the battles in the trenches.

Im not saying QB play is not important...not at all. But its not just this end all be all as to why some of the worst teams the past several years have stunk.

 

[ScottyFargo]

GB will be lucky to win 9 games. 2006 Denver had a rookie QB and was a mess. Javon in his first year hauled in 69 for 1084 and 8TD's and finished ranked 9th in non PPR and 12th in PPR. 2007 before he hurt his knee hauled in 9 for 119 and 8 for 101. Injuries happen.One game that Dallas had no film, no tendendices to game plan for...not what I would use to judge a projected season out of a GREEEN QB.Let's agree to disagree Dragon master and check back week 8 for a pulse on GB's season.

Lucky to win 9 huh? I disagree...I think 9 is quite easily done for this team.What does Denver's QB have to do with Javon's knee acting up after the Docs had checked him out. How many extra procedures has he had on his knee?Again...if Dallas did not prepare for short passes and WRs running after the catch...than they were stupid. What Rodgers did is what Favre had been doing all year...throwing underneath and letting the WRs run. What Jennings did on that play has little to do with some supposed lack of game planning for a short pass that he took the distance.

Dallas has done everything they could this offseason to upgrade their secondary, even going so low as to trade for Pacman-and they aren't even sure yet when he'll be eligible to play. This is the same secondary that gave up 312 and 4 TD's to Eli Manning week 1, 287 and 2 TDs (4 INT though) to Trent Green in Miami, and 244 and 1 to Todd Collins. They had a weakness in their secondary last year. Roy Williams is pulled on passing downs because he's a liability. I don't think it matters that Dallas wasn't "prepared" for Rodgers when they were facing Favre, that's not a factor. What is a factor is that they simply didn't have a great pass D to begin with.I think that this isn't enough to go on to say whether or not Rodgers is going to screw up the Packers season. He proved competent coming off the bench, but I don't take it either way to give him a thumbs up or thumbs down for a losing 200 yard and 1 td performance against the 13th ranked pass defense from last year.

 

[sho nuff]

GB will be lucky to win 9 games. 2006 Denver had a rookie QB and was a mess. Javon in his first year hauled in 69 for 1084 and 8TD's and finished ranked 9th in non PPR and 12th in PPR. 2007 before he hurt his knee hauled in 9 for 119 and 8 for 101. Injuries happen.One game that Dallas had no film, no tendendices to game plan for...not what I would use to judge a projected season out of a GREEEN QB.Let's agree to disagree Dragon master and check back week 8 for a pulse on GB's season.

Lucky to win 9 huh? I disagree...I think 9 is quite easily done for this team.What does Denver's QB have to do with Javon's knee acting up after the Docs had checked him out. How many extra procedures has he had on his knee?Again...if Dallas did not prepare for short passes and WRs running after the catch...than they were stupid. What Rodgers did is what Favre had been doing all year...throwing underneath and letting the WRs run. What Jennings did on that play has little to do with some supposed lack of game planning for a short pass that he took the distance.

Dallas has done everything they could this offseason to upgrade their secondary, even going so low as to trade for Pacman-and they aren't even sure yet when he'll be eligible to play. This is the same secondary that gave up 312 and 4 TD's to Eli Manning week 1, 287 and 2 TDs (4 INT though) to Trent Green in Miami, and 244 and 1 to Todd Collins. They had a weakness in their secondary last year. Roy Williams is pulled on passing downs because he's a liability. I don't think it matters that Dallas wasn't "prepared" for Rodgers when they were facing Favre, that's not a factor. What is a factor is that they simply didn't have a great pass D to begin with.I think that this isn't enough to go on to say whether or not Rodgers is going to screw up the Packers season. He proved competent coming off the bench, but I don't take it either way to give him a thumbs up or thumbs down for a losing 200 yard and 1 td performance against the 13th ranked pass defense from last year.

They were a slightly above average pass D. They averaged 213 per game given up in the air(a whopping 3 yards per game worse than Green Bay)...only allowed 19 TDs...(thats tied for 8th best in the league)...and were 3rd in the league in sacks.Teams that are on top...still try to get better (I know, this concept is not familiar to a Vikings fan).Im not giving him much on that game more than like you said...he looked competent...he was not freaked out by the national stage (well, if you call the NFL Network national)...the most I took out of it was less about his performance and more about how he handled himself.Its not like he was facing the Vikings pass D.

 

[Phurfur]

Again Farve was a HOF top 4 QB of all time. That is not easy to replace. Rodgers will be lucky to toss over 20 TD's this year IMO.

Throw the house at him?So...they are going to blitz...and play everyone up? Do you really think they are going to let their secondary go one on one with those WRs? Really?

Im not claiming it will be easy to replace.

I don't think it will take luck for him to break 20 TDs this year with this team. I think around 20-25 is a good projection for him actually.

I think Rodgers will be lucky to make it out of the Preseason in one piece. He has shown a lack of durability in the very small amount of time he's been on the field. Perhaps that was a conditioning issue that was a result of him holding a clipboard so often and he'll come into this season ready to take a hit.... but I tend to think he may not be getting his RDA of calcium or something. If he plays 16 games I will be shocked.

Again people...he has shown no more "lack of durability" than he has shown he can light the league up passing the ball.You cannot take such a small sample size and try projecting this. he broke a foot...that is not a conditioning issue (perhaps the hammy was last year...could also be he did not warm up the same after actually getting some time in the Dallas game)

Lucky to make it out of preseason in one piece? Come on now people...think some before you type.

People? ... People?!? Who are these people you are referring to? Judging from this thread, the "People" expect Aaron Rodgers to be the starting QB for the Packers next season. So people, take note of Rodgers' "lack of durability", because it's a huge red flag.

The people who continually use a small sample size to project that to a "lack of durability".Call it a question in how long he or any QB can stay healthy...but its simply not enough info to just say he lacks durability at this point.

GB will be lucky to win 9 games.

2006 Denver had a rookie QB and was a mess. Javon in his first year hauled in 69 for 1084 and 8TD's and finished ranked 9th in non PPR and 12th in PPR. 2007 before he hurt his knee hauled in 9 for 119 and 8 for 101. Injuries happen.

One game that Dallas had no film, no tendendices to game plan for...not what I would use to judge a projected season out of a GREEEN QB.

Let's agree to disagree Dragon master and check back week 8 for a pulse on GB's season.

Lucky to win 9 huh? I disagree...I think 9 is quite easily done for this team.What does Denver's QB have to do with Javon's knee acting up after the Docs had checked him out. How many extra procedures has he had on his knee?

Again...if Dallas did not prepare for short passes and WRs running after the catch...than they were stupid. What Rodgers did is what Favre had been doing all year...throwing underneath and letting the WRs run. What Jennings did on that play has little to do with some supposed lack of game planning for a short pass that he took the distance.

Dallas has done everything they could this offseason to upgrade their secondary, even going so low as to trade for Pacman-and they aren't even sure yet when he'll be eligible to play. This is the same secondary that gave up 312 and 4 TD's to Eli Manning week 1, 287 and 2 TDs (4 INT though) to Trent Green in Miami, and 244 and 1 to Todd Collins. They had a weakness in their secondary last year. Roy Williams is pulled on passing downs because he's a liability. I don't think it matters that Dallas wasn't "prepared" for Rodgers when they were facing Favre, that's not a factor. What is a factor is that they simply didn't have a great pass D to begin with.I think that this isn't enough to go on to say whether or not Rodgers is going to screw up the Packers season. He proved competent coming off the bench, but I don't take it either way to give him a thumbs up or thumbs down for a losing 200 yard and 1 td performance against the 13th ranked pass defense from last year.

They were a slightly above average pass D. They averaged 213 per game given up in the air(a whopping 3 yards per game worse than Green Bay)...only allowed 19 TDs...(thats tied for 8th best in the league)...and were 3rd in the league in sacks.Teams that are on top...still try to get better (I know, this concept is not familiar to a Vikings fan).

Im not giving him much on that game more than like you said...he looked competent...he was not freaked out by the national stage (well, if you call the NFL Network national)...the most I took out of it was less about his performance and more about how he handled himself.

Its not like he was facing the Vikings pass D.

How can you be "on top" when you haven't won a playoff game in over a decade? Your standards are very weird.

 

[sho nuff]

How can you be "on top" when you haven't won a playoff game in over a decade? Your standards are very weird.

Not sure if you meant to say something after the first blurb you quoted or not...As for this...Im no Cowboys fan for sure.But on top as in...best record in the NFC last season and a good team (come on...work with me here, I was making fun of the Vikings)

 

[twitch]

I cant really consider myself to have an objective opinion here, because although Im not a Pack fan, I really want to see this kid Rodgers succeed. And not because I have him on any fantasy teams because I dont. And not because I didnt love watching Brett Favre play. Because I did. I'll miss watching that SOB sling the pig. But Rodgers seems like a good man, who's patience only began at the very least on draft day when he suffered for hours before being thrown bone and a huge opportunity to study under one of history's greatest sports icons. And he's been nothing but a great kid and class act, that Ive been aware of, through the entire process. He's not been one of these kids who steps right into the league and been given a $70million contract and handed the keys to Winnebago. The organization did it the right way by bringing him in at the right time. And Rodgers has done the right thing by working hard and waiting. And he's going to succeed because good things happen to good people, he's certainly waited his turn. The Pack is on the cusp of being a great team. I really hope AR can put them over the top.

 

[zoonation]

Rodgers will be the biggest value play at QB this year. I really hope people soften on Jennings too, as he will become a huge value play at WR as well.

 

[sho nuff]

I cant really consider myself to have an objective opinion here, because although Im not a Pack fan, I really want to see this kid Rodgers succeed. And not because I have him on any fantasy teams because I dont. And not because I didnt love watching Brett Favre play. Because I did. I'll miss watching that SOB sling the pig. But Rodgers seems like a good man, who's patience only began at the very least on draft day when he suffered for hours before being thrown bone and a huge opportunity to study under one of history's greatest sports icons. And he's been nothing but a great kid and class act, that Ive been aware of, through the entire process. He's not been one of these kids who steps right into the league and been given a $70million contract and handed the keys to Winnebago. The organization did it the right way by bringing him in at the right time. And Rodgers has done the right thing by working hard and waiting. And he's going to succeed because good things happen to good people, he's certainly waited his turn. The Pack is on the cusp of being a great team. I really hope AR can put them over the top.

Lake Winnebago?Sorry...bad Wisconsin area joke there.

And very nicely said.

 

[sho nuff]

Rodgers will be the biggest value play at QB this year. I really hope people soften on Jennings too, as he will become a huge value play at WR as well.

Not sure people will soften on Jennings.They remember the 12 TDs...they remember the big TD against Dallas with Rodgers in there and think Rodgers might favor him.Driver continues to look like a big value play this year.

 

[Tanner9919]

What's your guys opinions on Aaron Rodgers? this year and for a dynasty?Standard yahoo scoring...he would be my #2 guy since I have Brees as a #1.Thanks!

higher than Cutler, probably a top 10-12 QB..great line, running game, WR's..

 

[jurrassic]

It is going to be a long year in GB this season.

Thanks for that dynamite observation...from the guy claiming Javon Walker is 100% ready to go...It will be a much easier year in GB than it will be in Oakland buddy.

Um...let's see...yeah Rodgers...first year starting (I could care less how long he has been charting plays and carrying a clip board). Replacing Favre will be very hard. That team will take a big step back. Teams are licking their chops at the sight of a first year starter with how many regular season starts under his belt? Yeah that's what I thought, zero.

And yes Walker is 100% ready to play this season. I think the Raiders medical staff checked him out before Al wrote a fat up front check.

Keep drinking that Rodgers Kool Aide along with Ryan Grant and Jennings (who is a great talent at WR but now in a ?? situation).

Im glad you could care less how long he has been learning how to play the pro game. I think it will make a big difference when the season starts between what he does and what Russell does this year.Replacing Favre will be tough...but so will playing QB for the Oakland Raiders (they draft that high so often for a reason).

Big step back? Define big? I think they still win 10 games this year and possibly win the division.

Teams are licking their chops to go after him and go one on one with Driver, Jones, and Jennings? I hope so. Blitz all you want, thats why the Packers have 2 very good Tackles to take care of those ends.

Denver's medical staff checked him out too...again, how did that end up for them?

Rodger's kool-aid? What have I said about him that is all that much kool-aid? That he will not struggle nearly as bad as you think? That he has a very good supporting cast? That he has a defense to back him up so he does not have to do as much on his own?

Grant? That he is a good back in a good situation?

What have I said about Jennings? That he likely won't see 12 TDs this year? Yeah...this kool-aid is good.

And I would not call being the #2 poised to eventually be the #1 in GB a ?? situation. He looked just fine hauling in a Rodgers pass for a nice score against Dallas.

GB will be lucky to win 9 games. 2006 Denver had a rookie QB and was a mess. Javon in his first year hauled in 69 for 1084 and 8TD's and finished ranked 9th in non PPR and 12th in PPR. 2007 before he hurt his knee hauled in 9 for 119 and 8 for 101. Injuries happen.

One game that Dallas had no film, no tendendices to game plan for...not what I would use to judge a projected season out of a GREEEN QB.

Let's agree to disagree Dragon master and check back week 8 for a pulse on GB's season.

The Denver situation has nothing to do with GB. Rodgers is not a rookie. He is in his 4th year and spend 3 years sitting on the bench learnig the system, dissecting film, and sitting in meetings with Favre. He is as well prepared mentally to take over than any first year qb in a long time. He also has the benefit of having McCarthy as his coach who basically took a 4-12 team and turned it into a 13-3 team (along with Thompson) in 3 seasons. McCarthy is a very creative game planner and devises his strategies around the strengths of his team. You only have to look at the spread 5 wr offense and quick passing game last year in the first 8 games to realize that. He is one of the top up and coming coaches in the league. No one can predict if Rodgers will be successful, but I will say the guy could not handle the situation better than he has. He was drafted in the first round and has sat behind Favre, without complaint or comment for 3 years. He has handled the doubting, and the rumors of Favre's "non-retirement" well and has also implemented an open house rule, in which he has an open door policy every Wednesday in which any member of the team and their families can come to his house to hang out. He caters the party and is trying to develop leadership and comraderie.

I don't think he will be a bust, but I can't predict he will be a superstar either. I think he will be put in a position to succeed and it will be up to him to make it happen. I do think people are selling the guy short. The Packers are loaded with wr options and have a ton of young depth on their o-line. I think Rodgers could very easily get to 3,400 yards and 24 td's.

 

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Rodgers will be the biggest value play at QB this year. I really hope people soften on Jennings too, as he will become a huge value play at WR as well.

Not sure people will soften on Jennings.They remember the 12 TDs...they remember the big TD against Dallas with Rodgers in there and think Rodgers might favor him.

Driver continues to look like a big value play this year.

I own Driver in one league and Jennings in 4. I hope your right. I am not going to push the panic button if I am right on GB taking a couple of steps back this season. I have faith that Rodgers can be a good QB but my concerns are simple1) First time playing a full regular season. That is huge.

2) He has shown a propensity for injury and if he get's hurt again they have a green but talented rookie behind him. I gotta believe they will address the back up position some how with an experienced player. Paging Daunte Culpepper