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Don't get me wrong, I think ADP is great but I do not see him as better than Dickerson right now. I too watched E. Dickerson and he was simply amazing. He hit holes so quick and once he got past them, he was gone. The guy was sick. No way I can call ADP the "best pure runner the league has ever seen" after 8 games.
Not to rub that in... but I'll be at Lambeau field next Sunday for Packers v. Vikings II. And yes, I'm fully aware that two weeks in a row of watching All Day slash defenses to shreds will render me an addict with a man crush.his last big run before the 3yd record breaker, looked like it could have gone the distance. he high stepped and then got horse collared, could have been 350 easy.for being at that game. i was either going to this game, the oakland game in two weeks or the giant game in three weeks. we decided to do an AC/NY trip (from DC) and go see the giants game. hopefully he can have something special saved for that game too.
I've seen a lot of power backs with good speed and some fast backs with okay power, but nothing like the speed/power combination this kid has. The only guys I can come up with are Dickerson and Bo Jackson. As far as physical tools are concerned, nobody matches up with AP better than Bo. Dickerson was a beast with near world-class speed, but he was not nearly as powerful as runner as AP is. Once he clears the line and gets to the 2nd level, there aren't too many DB's out there who want any parts of him.
Fantasy football aside, let's hope this kid's career isn't cut short like Bo's was due to injury and we can enjoy watching what he does for years to come. That's what I hope for most of all as an NFL fan.Thanks for the Dickerson rookie stats. AD is avg 2 yards a carry more than Dickerson did his rookie year. AD is on pace for about 70 less carries and 200 more yrds than Dickerson's rookie year. This is going to be fun to watch play out for the next 8 games.
Isn't the point of having 8 or 9 in the box to not let the back get past the line of scrimmage?
In theory, sure. But this kid jukes the first man (or three) like no other, so it actually backfires.Isn't the point of having 8 or 9 in the box to not let the back get past the line of scrimmage?
I guess I'm missing the point then.In theory, sure. But this kid jukes the first man (or three) like no other, so it actually backfires.Isn't the point of having 8 or 9 in the box to not let the back get past the line of scrimmage?
You're not the only one. It's all about coming up with irrational justification for why Peterson is tearing up the league. How about leaving it at "he's as talented of a running back as there is in the NFL?"I guess I'm missing the point then.In theory, sure. But this kid jukes the first man (or three) like no other, so it actually backfires.Isn't the point of having 8 or 9 in the box to not let the back get past the line of scrimmage?
That is the point, Andy. What are you missing?
If that was the point, why did you quote another post?And playing nickel isn't going to help either. It may get your d-back's killed.That is the point, Andy. What are you missing?
Just imagine if Moss were still in MN. Probably the 2 best offensive weapons in the game in AD and Moss. Just sign an average QB and it's Superbowl homeboy. Instead we have Troy Williamson, thanks ownership
Is this the thread where we say: "If the defense just would have stopped tackling him, he would have probably had 600+ yards rushing." ?dickey moe said:
I love ADP, but lets calm down for a minute here.
You're not missing the point-they are. He'd still be racking up huge numbers if teams played their base Ds. If you can, go look at some of his runs at OU. Teams were forced to defend that pass rather than stacking the line and AD still had huge runs where he was just weaving through the secondary making people miss 10, 20 and 30 yards down the field.Andy Dufresne said:I guess I'm missing the point then.RAIDERNATION said:In theory, sure. But this kid jukes the first man (or three) like no other, so it actually backfires.Andy Dufresne said:Isn't the point of having 8 or 9 in the box to not let the back get past the line of scrimmage?RAIDERNATION said:pigskin pimp said:
I know his father attended the Dallas game. Apparently, he doesn't perform well in front of Pop's.The one person who can stop Peterson is me (and sometimes Childress). He was on my bench vs. the Bears D (42 points and 3 TDs in that game), and rode the pine yesterday against the Chargers D (49 points and 3 TDs). I was clever enough to convince myself to play Kevin Jones (71 yds) instead.Anyway, I'm not sure why the Eagles and Cowboys' games were so different than the Bears and Chargers. The Eagles game was a close game (within a TD at the start of Q4), and so was the Dallas game (DAL had a 7 point lead at the end of 3Q). Is it just the highly unpredictable big play difference, or is it about the quality of the second tier of defenders to prevent the long play? Longest run vs Eagles was 17 yards. Longest vs. Dallas was 20 yards (TD). Against the Bears, he had 67, 73, 35 yd TD runs. We all know the Chargers story on giving up the big play, but they had only allowed 2 rushing TDs all year until yesterday's game: Sammy Morris scored with 3 mins left in the Pats blowout game, and Brandon Jackson scored with less than a minute left in the GB game. Does anyone have insight to the Chargers seeming implosing vs. Peterson?
12 carries for 63 yrds and a TD not really a poor performance, more lack of opportunity...I know his father attended the Dallas game. Apparently, he doesn't perform well in front of Pop's.The one person who can stop Peterson is me (and sometimes Childress). He was on my bench vs. the Bears D (42 points and 3 TDs in that game), and rode the pine yesterday against the Chargers D (49 points and 3 TDs). I was clever enough to convince myself to play Kevin Jones (71 yds) instead.
Anyway, I'm not sure why the Eagles and Cowboys' games were so different than the Bears and Chargers. The Eagles game was a close game (within a TD at the start of Q4), and so was the Dallas game (DAL had a 7 point lead at the end of 3Q). Is it just the highly unpredictable big play difference, or is it about the quality of the second tier of defenders to prevent the long play? Longest run vs Eagles was 17 yards. Longest vs. Dallas was 20 yards (TD). Against the Bears, he had 67, 73, 35 yd TD runs. We all know the Chargers story on giving up the big play, but they had only allowed 2 rushing TDs all year until yesterday's game: Sammy Morris scored with 3 mins left in the Pats blowout game, and Brandon Jackson scored with less than a minute left in the GB game. Does anyone have insight to the Chargers seeming implosing vs. Peterson?
I don't think Anderson would be a good fit. He does well in Cleveland because he trusts his receivers to make plays and they do. I don't think Sydney Rice or Troy Williamson would be able to make these plays.Derek Anderson will be a RFA this offseason...I mean, if the Vikes are willing to start the ex-Brown Holcomb, then they'd love DA.His explosion when he hits the hole is simply amazing, followed by the quick hip-juke on the first defender. If Cedric Benson ever bothered to watch a tape of this kid, he'd be so ashamed of how he plays the same position in the same sport, he'd retire immediately.The big question: will there be any big ticket QBs/WRs available in the free agent market?
You're knocking Childress after 1 1/2 years??
Come on man, give the guy at least three years to bring in players he wants and not ones that Tice left over.And AP is on pace for 2072 rushing 16 rushing TDs on 316 carries. That's how amazing this kid is.
Inca I did the same thing!The one person who can stop Peterson is me (and sometimes Childress). He was on my bench vs. the Bears D (42 points and 3 TDs in that game), and rode the pine yesterday against the Chargers D (49 points and 3 TDs). I was clever enough to convince myself to play Kevin Jones (71 yds) instead.
The Chargers lost DE Luis Castillo at (I think) the start of the second half, and that's when the fun started. ADP had "only" around 40 yards in the first half.In a 2-RB, 12-team, 0.5-PPR league, I started Addai and Kevin Jones instead of Addai and ADP. Incredibly, I still managed to win by 0.15 points (kid you not), thanks to Addai, TO, and Big Ben. I have learned my lesson...Addai and ADP from here on out!Inca I did the same thing!The one person who can stop Peterson is me (and sometimes Childress). He was on my bench vs. the Bears D (42 points and 3 TDs in that game), and rode the pine yesterday against the Chargers D (49 points and 3 TDs). I was clever enough to convince myself to play Kevin Jones (71 yds) instead.
