Accepting a trade after an injury (1 Viewer)

[Skipper]

I'm in a pro public Yahoo league with nine random strangers. Today I was offered a 3-for-3 trade (give D Cook, D Thomas, D Parker, get J Jones, M Bryant, M Ingram). As far as I can tell, that offer will remain through and beyond the Sunday games. It occurs to me that I could follow the Sunday games, and if one of the players on my side (two are on my bench) gets hurt, I can hit the Accept button and win the trade.

Questions:

1. Is that possible? It's hard to figure out exactly how trades in Yahoo work.

2. Is that a super **** move? Or should owners be careful about offering trades near game day?

 

[cockroach]

Scumbag move.  

 

[Moonshine]

Possible to do. Still super douchey.

 

[Hankmoody]

1.  Probably not, I think the players lock once their game kicks off.

2.  Yes.  People will say it's the other guy's fault for leaving the trade open, and technically they are right, but it's still bush league to take advantage of.

 

[Ridcully]

2. Is that a super **** move? Or should owners be careful about offering trades near game day?

Yes, to both questions.  They should be more careful, but it's still a #### move.

 

[Hilts]

If you accept it immediately it's a jerk move. If the offer is still open a couple days after the injury then accepting is perfectly fair. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Up to the other guy to withdraw the offer. 

Generally speaking if I have an offer out and my potential trade partner hasn't accepted by Sunday, I withdraw for exactly this reason. Valuation can change even without an injury to the player - a QB injury could tank a WRs value, or significant OL injuries can hamper an entire offense.

So to your specific Q's, yes you could accept and yes it's douchey, as it would be considered "bad faith" in knowingly dealing damaged goods. 

I was in a work league many years ago, (in the way way back time, before the twitter reported everything in real time) where a dude heard a report of a knee sprain to his RB listening to a beat reporter on satellite radio & made me an offer of that player in a package. It seemed fair, I accepted and the next day the news broke on our site that the RB was out 4-6 weeks with a significant sprain. It was still in the trade review period, and I rallied the rest of the league to vote it down. Dude admitted he'd heard the report the day before. 

No harm done since the trade was voted down, but dude who sold me his damaged goods was not invited back to the league the next year. Because no one wants to play with a dude who'd do that to another dude.

Don't be that dude. 

 

[ghostguy123]

This is the exact reason I don't leave offers up for more than maybe a couple hours. . Anything can happen, even on off days.  I don't trust people. 

Once the offer is up and sits for a bit then is taken down, at least the other owner knows it was a serious offer and we can negotiate via email. 

 

[Chaka]

I agree it's not cool to pull the trigger, then again I always rescind any open trade offers before kickoff, it's not that difficult.  It's a rookie move to leave them open. So, if you do pull the trigger after injury, again not cool and I do not endorse at all, look at as an educational experience for the other guy.  This is how we learn.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Could happen any time during the week so guess its not ok to leave offers out at all for any amount of time if guys are gonna do this.

 

[voiceofunreason]

Scumbag move.  

If you have to ask...

 

[One More Rep]

I revoke all open offers every Sunday morning because of these type of situations.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Could happen any time during the week so guess its not ok to leave offers out at all for any amount of time if guys are gonna do this.

That's not the same as the scenario described by OP though. 

He/she is saying the trade is up, they see one of their players involved get hurt, they rush to click accept to knowingly deal damaged goods.

if you make a trade with me on a Monday & one of the players gets hurt in practice on Thursday, that's just my crappy luck. 

Huge difference there imo. 

 

[fruity pebbles]

That's not the same as the scenario described by OP though. 

He/she is saying the trade is up, they see one of their players involved get hurt, they rush to click accept to knowingly deal damaged goods.

if you make a trade with me on a Monday & one of the players gets hurt in practice on Thursday, that's just my crappy luck. 

Huge difference there imo. 

No. Im saying it could happen anytime during the week as in I propose a deal Wednesday morning, player x tears an ACL in practice later that day and doooshbag owner runs to the site and accepts the offer. If i were commish I'd reverse the deal as being accepted under false pretense. 

 

[ghostguy123]

No. Im saying it could happen anytime during the week as in I propose a deal Wednesday morning, player x tears an ACL in practice later that day and doooshbag owner runs to the site and accepts the offer. If i were commish I'd reverse the deal as being accepted under false pretense. 

Little grey area there if a deal is accepted when the owner might not even know an injury occured.  

I have done this once several year ago and the other owner was all ticked.  I seriously had no clue the guy i was trading was hurt in practice.

A commish needs to stay out of it IMO.

 

[DropKick]

Little grey area there if a deal is accepted when the owner might not even know an injury occured.  

I have done this once several year ago and the other owner was all ticked.  I seriously had no clue the guy i was trading was hurt in practice.

There is still an honorable way to handle these situations.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

No. Im saying it could happen anytime during the week as in I propose a deal Wednesday morning, player x tears an ACL in practice later that day and doooshbag owner runs to the site and accepts the offer. If i were commish I'd reverse the deal as being accepted under false pretense. 

Oh ok - gotcha. Yeah, we're totally on the same page. My bad.  

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Little grey area there if a deal is accepted when the owner might not even know an injury occured.  

I have done this once several year ago and the other owner was all ticked.  I seriously had no clue the guy i was trading was hurt in practice.

A commish needs to stay out of it IMO.

As a commish if the league members agreed to reverse the trade, I'd happily help out there. I'd probably suggest it privately to each because of the nature of the trade. 

 

[CalvinJ55]

My league has a rule allowing the Commish to veto trades for this exact situation.  

 

[Hankmoody]

Our leagues require one of the owners to post the trade on the forums and the other to accept before it's considered final.  Takes most of the risk out of it.  Of course my leagues are pretty much non-db owners too, so it's highly unlikely to ever come up.