Adam Schefter On The Radio This Morning Talking Draft (1 Viewer)

[Sigmund Bloom]

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- Dolphins don't want Matt Ryan. People Schefter respects love Ryan. The Ravens would "do cartwheels" if Ryan falls to them. The Ravens may trade up to get him (Chiefs? - my thoughts here).

- First two picks will be JLong and Dorsey "take it to the bank". Dorsey could even go #1 in a trade up. Dolphins will trade with "any partner" - then he says "tune in to NFL Network tonight" (Patriots? - my thoughts here)

- Jason Taylor was going to be traded for 2nd or 3rd, seems like a 2nd now - could even go up from there. Says again he can't say everything he knows. (then says Ireland hasn't returned his calls). Dolphins aren't talking to anyone in the media about their plans - keeping everything very tight.

- Jake Long is the only player the Dolphins have talked to as of yesterday. They are not close on an agreement. Long has not been given a deadline - even if Parcells has said there is one in his mind to Peter King.

- A coach with a top 10 pick said to him "isnt it interesting that you havent heard MCFadden's name come out of the Fins camp at all"? Schefter says he doesn't believe that McFadden is in play at #1, but that this coach said McFadden is #1 on his board.

- Didn't directly address question about Beck's future with the Dolphins, but suggested that if the #1 is JLong, then could be a combo deal with a 2nd round QB.

Watch NFL Network tonight to get the update!

 

[BustedKnuckles]

 

[TheFanatic]

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- Dolphins don't want Matt Ryan. People Schefter respects love Ryan. The Ravens would "do cartwheels" if Ryan falls to them. The Ravens may trade up to get him (Chiefs? - my thoughts here).

- First two picks will be JLong and Dorsey "take it to the bank". Dorsey could even go #1 in a trade up. Dolphins will trade with "any partner" - then he says "tune in to NFL Network tonight".

- Jason Taylor was going to be traded for 2nd or 3rd, seems like a 2nd now - could even go up from there. Says again he can't say everything he knows. (then says Ireland hasn't returned his calls). Dolphins aren't talking to anyone in the media about their plans - keeping everything very tight.

- Jake Long is the only player the Dolphins have talked to as of yesterday. They are not close on an agreement. Long has not been given a deadline - even if Parcells has said there is one in his mind to Peter King.

- A coach with a top 10 pick said to him "isnt it interesting that you havent heard MCFadden's name come out of the Fins camp at all"? Schefter says he doesn't believe that McFadden is in play at #1, but that this coach said McFadden is #1 on his board.

- Didn't directly address question about Beck's future with the Dolphins, but suggested that if the #1 is JLong, then could be a combo deal with a 2nd round QB.

Watch NFL Network tonight to get the update!

Great info...

 

[KarmaPolice]

Good stuff. I'll have to watch NFL network as usual tonight.

I think the Ravens would have to trade with KC. IMO the Jets should be thinking long and hard about Ryan with the 1.6 if Atlanta doesn't take him. I don't think McFadden should be in consideration unless Ryan and Gholston are off the board before they pick. with the depth at Rb this year again, there is some good talent in the 2nd round for them.

 

[KarmaPolice]

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- First two picks will be JLong and Dorsey "take it to the bank". Dorsey could even go #1 in a trade up. Dolphins will trade with "any partner" - then he says "tune in to NFL Network tonight" (Patriots? - my thoughts here)

Interesting. Obviously the SB showed the other weakness of theirs is the OL with the Giants' pass rush.ETA: What would it cost the Pats though??

 

[munchkin]

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- First two picks will be JLong and Dorsey "take it to the bank". Dorsey could even go #1 in a trade up. Dolphins will trade with "any partner" - then he says "tune in to NFL Network tonight" (Patriots? - my thoughts here)

Interesting. Obviously the SB showed the other weakness of theirs is the OL with the Giants' pass rush.ETA: What would it cost the Pats though??

I don't see the Pats trading up for J Long. While the O-Line imploded in the SB I think it was a combo of the relentless rush and a loss of confidence under the pressure of going undefeated. Dorsey would be a possibility if they feel good about his leg and bad about the prospect of resigning Wilfork.

 

[Jiggyonthehut]

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- Jason Taylor was going to be traded for 2nd or 3rd, seems like a 2nd now - could even go up from there. Says again he can't say everything he knows. (then says Ireland hasn't returned his calls). Dolphins aren't talking to anyone in the media about their plans - keeping everything very tight.

I'm torn on this. What's the play here for both Miami and a prospective team like the Jaguars? Two teams I've heard that expressed the most interest were Minnesota and Jacksonville, both of whom need a pass rusher as a distinct need. While Miami has a better leveraging position in that they COULD be in a position to grab a talented DE @16 or trade up a few spots without giving up too much. But Jacksonville does not have that luxury @26, nor do they want to give up too much talent in the first day (2nd and 3rd round picks have been CRITICAL to the success of the Jaguars, and in recent years, even moreso than their 1st rounders.)

If you are the Vikings/Jags, do you get this done now and plan the draft out, or do you get this done on draft day, holding out for a better deal and bank on the fact that it will get done? Will his price drop as draft day comes, towards the 3rd+5th trend we saw with the superstar DT's (Stroud, Rogers) or will it rise?

And for those Miami homers, is there a chance he doesn't get moved?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Thank god I'm done doing mock drafts because this one is impossible to predict. Anything, or nothing could happen.

That's not to say this isn't good information. I love it. From now until the draft, I'm just going to be about it all.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Thank god I'm done doing mock drafts because this one is impossible to predict. Anything, or nothing could happen.

That's not to say this isn't good information. I love it. From now until the draft, I'm just going to be about it all.

Uno Mas GB?

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

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- Jason Taylor was going to be traded for 2nd or 3rd, seems like a 2nd now - could even go up from there. Says again he can't say everything he knows. (then says Ireland hasn't returned his calls). Dolphins aren't talking to anyone in the media about their plans - keeping everything very tight.

I'm torn on this. What's the play here for both Miami and a prospective team like the Jaguars? Two teams I've heard that expressed the most interest were Minnesota and Jacksonville, both of whom need a pass rusher as a distinct need. While Miami has a better leveraging position in that they COULD be in a position to grab a talented DE @16 or trade up a few spots without giving up too much. But Jacksonville does not have that luxury @26, nor do they want to give up too much talent in the first day (2nd and 3rd round picks have been CRITICAL to the success of the Jaguars, and in recent years, even moreso than their 1st rounders.)

If you are the Vikings/Jags, do you get this done now and plan the draft out, or do you get this done on draft day, holding out for a better deal and bank on the fact that it will get done? Will his price drop as draft day comes, towards the 3rd+5th trend we saw with the superstar DT's (Stroud, Rogers) or will it rise?

And for those Miami homers, is there a chance he doesn't get moved?

As big of a need that is for the Jags, I don't like the idea of giving up a second rounder.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

So which one of

Miami

St.Louis

Atlanta

Oakland

Kansas City

NY Jets

NE Patriots

Baltimore

Cincinnati

New Orleans

has McFadden at No.1 on their board.

New Orleans, Baltimore and St.Louis (and probably Miami) won't take him.

Cincinnati trading up (Chad Johnson as bait?)

I think New England is the team however. Hasn't McFadden visited them?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Thank god I'm done doing mock drafts because this one is impossible to predict. Anything, or nothing could happen.

That's not to say this isn't good information. I love it. From now until the draft, I'm just going to be about it all.

Uno Mas GB?

Well I suppose there will be one final, day before, "what's your final guess" mock draft thread that I'll participate in.

 

[ravnzfan]

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- Dolphins don't want Matt Ryan. People Schefter respects love Ryan. The Ravens would "do cartwheels" if Ryan falls to them. The Ravens may trade up to get him (Chiefs? - my thoughts here).

- First two picks will be JLong and Dorsey "take it to the bank". Dorsey could even go #1 in a trade up. Dolphins will trade with "any partner" - then he says "tune in to NFL Network tonight" (Patriots? - my thoughts here)

- Jason Taylor was going to be traded for 2nd or 3rd, seems like a 2nd now - could even go up from there. Says again he can't say everything he knows. (then says Ireland hasn't returned his calls). Dolphins aren't talking to anyone in the media about their plans - keeping everything very tight.

- Jake Long is the only player the Dolphins have talked to as of yesterday. They are not close on an agreement. Long has not been given a deadline - even if Parcells has said there is one in his mind to Peter King.

- A coach with a top 10 pick said to him "isnt it interesting that you havent heard MCFadden's name come out of the Fins camp at all"? Schefter says he doesn't believe that McFadden is in play at #1, but that this coach said McFadden is #1 on his board.

- Didn't directly address question about Beck's future with the Dolphins, but suggested that if the #1 is JLong, then could be a combo deal with a 2nd round QB.

Watch NFL Network tonight to get the update!

great stuff here, Bloom....BTW, this is the 2nd time in 2 days I've seen mention of a KC/Balt swap in the 1stw/no 3rd (traded for McGahee) or 5th(supplemental pick for OT-Gaither), I'd hate to see us burn the '08-2nd and next yrs 1st to get Ryan...(yes,we do own 4 compensatory picks, including a 4th for AD)

I've seen a few positional rankings where Ryan---concensus #1 QB off the board---isn't the concensus #1 QB talent wise

...and I think Taylor for a 2nd would be as close to 'stone cold lock' as there is

 

[Morton Muffley]

So which one of

Miami

St.Louis

Atlanta

Oakland

Kansas City

NY Jets

NE Patriots

Baltimore

Cincinnati

New Orleans

has McFadden at No.1 on their board.

I think New England is the team however. Hasn't McFadden visited them?

Just to be clear....the OP wrote that:A coach with a top 10 pick....said McFadden is #1 on his board.

So putting both these pieces of info together, you believe that:

Bill Belichick (or one of his coaches!) told Adam Schefter (a member of the media!!!) who NE has as the #1 player (on the their draft board!!!!)....when six teams will pick before the Pats and countless others could trade to get ahead of them!!!!!!!! Really?

Repeat after me [with a lisp] INCONCEIVABLE!

....unless it's subtefuge...in which case it's equally invalid.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

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- Dolphins don't want Matt Ryan. People Schefter respects love Ryan. The Ravens would "do cartwheels" if Ryan falls to them. The Ravens may trade up to get him (Chiefs? - my thoughts here).

- First two picks will be JLong and Dorsey "take it to the bank". Dorsey could even go #1 in a trade up. Dolphins will trade with "any partner" - then he says "tune in to NFL Network tonight" (Patriots? - my thoughts here)

- Jason Taylor was going to be traded for 2nd or 3rd, seems like a 2nd now - could even go up from there. Says again he can't say everything he knows. (then says Ireland hasn't returned his calls). Dolphins aren't talking to anyone in the media about their plans - keeping everything very tight.

- Jake Long is the only player the Dolphins have talked to as of yesterday. They are not close on an agreement. Long has not been given a deadline - even if Parcells has said there is one in his mind to Peter King.

- A coach with a top 10 pick said to him "isnt it interesting that you havent heard MCFadden's name come out of the Fins camp at all"? Schefter says he doesn't believe that McFadden is in play at #1, but that this coach said McFadden is #1 on his board.

- Didn't directly address question about Beck's future with the Dolphins, but suggested that if the #1 is JLong, then could be a combo deal with a 2nd round QB.

Watch NFL Network tonight to get the update!

great stuff here, Bloom....BTW, this is the 2nd time in 2 days I've seen mention of a KC/Balt swap in the 1stw/no 3rd (traded for McGahee) or 5th(supplemental pick for OT-Gaither), I'd hate to see us burn the '08-2nd and next yrs 1st to get Ryan...(yes,we do own 4 compensatory picks, including a 4th for AD)

I've seen a few positional rankings where Ryan---concensus #1 QB off the board---isn't the concensus #1 QB talent wise

...and I think Taylor for a 2nd would be as close to 'stone cold lock' as there is

as a KC fan I don't think this will happen.....if Long is gone which he will be and Ryan is there KC will take him and then adress the oline in the next few rounds......KC has not had this high of a draft pick in quite some time.....this is their chance to get "the guy"....KC has not had a "get you to the next level QB" since an aging Montana....with all apologies to Trent Green, but he just never got them where they needed to go......this is KC's chance to get "the guy" and if they trade this pick to Balt and let them take "the guy" instead, I think heads will roll.....Long is the only other player besides Ryan with this pick......unless they look at trading up and getting back into the 1st round to grab Brohm after taking Clady

wose case scenerio for KC is if both Long and Ryan are gone.......losing that coin flip really hurt....

 

[KSkid]

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- Dolphins don't want Matt Ryan. People Schefter respects love Ryan. The Ravens would "do cartwheels" if Ryan falls to them. The Ravens may trade up to get him (Chiefs? - my thoughts here).

- First two picks will be JLong and Dorsey "take it to the bank". Dorsey could even go #1 in a trade up. Dolphins will trade with "any partner" - then he says "tune in to NFL Network tonight" (Patriots? - my thoughts here)

- Jason Taylor was going to be traded for 2nd or 3rd, seems like a 2nd now - could even go up from there. Says again he can't say everything he knows. (then says Ireland hasn't returned his calls). Dolphins aren't talking to anyone in the media about their plans - keeping everything very tight.

- Jake Long is the only player the Dolphins have talked to as of yesterday. They are not close on an agreement. Long has not been given a deadline - even if Parcells has said there is one in his mind to Peter King.

- A coach with a top 10 pick said to him "isnt it interesting that you havent heard MCFadden's name come out of the Fins camp at all"? Schefter says he doesn't believe that McFadden is in play at #1, but that this coach said McFadden is #1 on his board.

- Didn't directly address question about Beck's future with the Dolphins, but suggested that if the #1 is JLong, then could be a combo deal with a 2nd round QB.

Watch NFL Network tonight to get the update!

great stuff here, Bloom....BTW, this is the 2nd time in 2 days I've seen mention of a KC/Balt swap in the 1stw/no 3rd (traded for McGahee) or 5th(supplemental pick for OT-Gaither), I'd hate to see us burn the '08-2nd and next yrs 1st to get Ryan...(yes,we do own 4 compensatory picks, including a 4th for AD)

I've seen a few positional rankings where Ryan---concensus #1 QB off the board---isn't the concensus #1 QB talent wise

...and I think Taylor for a 2nd would be as close to 'stone cold lock' as there is

as a KC fan I don't think this will happen.....if Long is gone which he will be and Ryan is there KC will take him and then adress the oline in the next few rounds......KC has not had this high of a draft pick in quite some time.....this is their chance to get "the guy"....KC has not had a "get you to the next level QB" since an aging Montana....with all apologies to Trent Green, but he just never got them where they needed to go......this is KC's chance to get "the guy" and if they trade this pick to Balt and let them take "the guy" instead, I think heads will roll.....Long is the only other player besides Ryan with this pick......unless they look at trading up and getting back into the 1st round to grab Brohm after taking Clady

wose case scenerio for KC is if both Long and Ryan are gone.......losing that coin flip really hurt....

I can't see them taking Ryan, and I really don't think they should. He might be the best QB in this draft, which has been argued against by some, but he is by no means a sure fire franchise guy. The Chiefs need help on their O-line desperately. I think their best move would be OL in the 1st and 2nd. When they were making the playoffs consistently it was largely because of their line. Sure they had soem talented skill guys, but the line drove that offense, and I think Edwards is the kind of coach who wants to win in the trenches. I see them going line, either O or D, but I hope O, because their OL has fallen apart.Also, I saw on NFL network that Peterson had been talking about how they need to get 5 or 6 starters out of this draft. It wasn't said, but I don't think QB is one of those positions.

 

[FTRWRTR]

So which one of MiamiSt.LouisAtlantaOaklandKansas CityNY JetsNE PatriotsBaltimoreCincinnatiNew Orleanshas McFadden at No.1 on their board.New Orleans, Baltimore and St.Louis (and probably Miami) won't take him.Cincinnati trading up (Chad Johnson as bait?)I think New England is the team however. Hasn't McFadden visited them?

Forget about dmac to atlanta. Them taking him never made any sense because the Falcons already have a rb in jerious norwood that's close to the same size and speed as mcfaddenIf the Falcons end up with chris long I'd be beyond happyThe pats moving up for long or dorsey doesn't fit their M.O. especially since they would prolly have to throw in a 2nd rounder to move up six spots

 

[Stinkin Ref]

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- Dolphins don't want Matt Ryan. People Schefter respects love Ryan. The Ravens would "do cartwheels" if Ryan falls to them. The Ravens may trade up to get him (Chiefs? - my thoughts here).

- First two picks will be JLong and Dorsey "take it to the bank". Dorsey could even go #1 in a trade up. Dolphins will trade with "any partner" - then he says "tune in to NFL Network tonight" (Patriots? - my thoughts here)

- Jason Taylor was going to be traded for 2nd or 3rd, seems like a 2nd now - could even go up from there. Says again he can't say everything he knows. (then says Ireland hasn't returned his calls). Dolphins aren't talking to anyone in the media about their plans - keeping everything very tight.

- Jake Long is the only player the Dolphins have talked to as of yesterday. They are not close on an agreement. Long has not been given a deadline - even if Parcells has said there is one in his mind to Peter King.

- A coach with a top 10 pick said to him "isnt it interesting that you havent heard MCFadden's name come out of the Fins camp at all"? Schefter says he doesn't believe that McFadden is in play at #1, but that this coach said McFadden is #1 on his board.

- Didn't directly address question about Beck's future with the Dolphins, but suggested that if the #1 is JLong, then could be a combo deal with a 2nd round QB.

Watch NFL Network tonight to get the update!

great stuff here, Bloom....BTW, this is the 2nd time in 2 days I've seen mention of a KC/Balt swap in the 1stw/no 3rd (traded for McGahee) or 5th(supplemental pick for OT-Gaither), I'd hate to see us burn the '08-2nd and next yrs 1st to get Ryan...(yes,we do own 4 compensatory picks, including a 4th for AD)

I've seen a few positional rankings where Ryan---concensus #1 QB off the board---isn't the concensus #1 QB talent wise

...and I think Taylor for a 2nd would be as close to 'stone cold lock' as there is

as a KC fan I don't think this will happen.....if Long is gone which he will be and Ryan is there KC will take him and then adress the oline in the next few rounds......KC has not had this high of a draft pick in quite some time.....this is their chance to get "the guy"....KC has not had a "get you to the next level QB" since an aging Montana....with all apologies to Trent Green, but he just never got them where they needed to go......this is KC's chance to get "the guy" and if they trade this pick to Balt and let them take "the guy" instead, I think heads will roll.....Long is the only other player besides Ryan with this pick......unless they look at trading up and getting back into the 1st round to grab Brohm after taking Clady

wose case scenerio for KC is if both Long and Ryan are gone.......losing that coin flip really hurt....

I can't see them taking Ryan, and I really don't think they should. He might be the best QB in this draft, which has been argued against by some, but he is by no means a sure fire franchise guy. The Chiefs need help on their O-line desperately. I think their best move would be OL in the 1st and 2nd. When they were making the playoffs consistently it was largely because of their line. Sure they had soem talented skill guys, but the line drove that offense, and I think Edwards is the kind of coach who wants to win in the trenches. I see them going line, either O or D, but I hope O, because their OL has fallen apart.Also, I saw on NFL network that Peterson had been talking about how they need to get 5 or 6 starters out of this draft. It wasn't said, but I don't think QB is one of those positions.

then they need to bring somebody in at QB........or else they will have this high of a pick again next year.......maybe they could turn some of the 10 picks they have in this draft into another 1st rounder and snag Brohm

 

[KSkid]

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- Dolphins don't want Matt Ryan. People Schefter respects love Ryan. The Ravens would "do cartwheels" if Ryan falls to them. The Ravens may trade up to get him (Chiefs? - my thoughts here).

- First two picks will be JLong and Dorsey "take it to the bank". Dorsey could even go #1 in a trade up. Dolphins will trade with "any partner" - then he says "tune in to NFL Network tonight" (Patriots? - my thoughts here)

- Jason Taylor was going to be traded for 2nd or 3rd, seems like a 2nd now - could even go up from there. Says again he can't say everything he knows. (then says Ireland hasn't returned his calls). Dolphins aren't talking to anyone in the media about their plans - keeping everything very tight.

- Jake Long is the only player the Dolphins have talked to as of yesterday. They are not close on an agreement. Long has not been given a deadline - even if Parcells has said there is one in his mind to Peter King.

- A coach with a top 10 pick said to him "isnt it interesting that you havent heard MCFadden's name come out of the Fins camp at all"? Schefter says he doesn't believe that McFadden is in play at #1, but that this coach said McFadden is #1 on his board.

- Didn't directly address question about Beck's future with the Dolphins, but suggested that if the #1 is JLong, then could be a combo deal with a 2nd round QB.

Watch NFL Network tonight to get the update!

great stuff here, Bloom....BTW, this is the 2nd time in 2 days I've seen mention of a KC/Balt swap in the 1stw/no 3rd (traded for McGahee) or 5th(supplemental pick for OT-Gaither), I'd hate to see us burn the '08-2nd and next yrs 1st to get Ryan...(yes,we do own 4 compensatory picks, including a 4th for AD)

I've seen a few positional rankings where Ryan---concensus #1 QB off the board---isn't the concensus #1 QB talent wise

...and I think Taylor for a 2nd would be as close to 'stone cold lock' as there is

as a KC fan I don't think this will happen.....if Long is gone which he will be and Ryan is there KC will take him and then adress the oline in the next few rounds......KC has not had this high of a draft pick in quite some time.....this is their chance to get "the guy"....KC has not had a "get you to the next level QB" since an aging Montana....with all apologies to Trent Green, but he just never got them where they needed to go......this is KC's chance to get "the guy" and if they trade this pick to Balt and let them take "the guy" instead, I think heads will roll.....Long is the only other player besides Ryan with this pick......unless they look at trading up and getting back into the 1st round to grab Brohm after taking Clady

wose case scenerio for KC is if both Long and Ryan are gone.......losing that coin flip really hurt....

I can't see them taking Ryan, and I really don't think they should. He might be the best QB in this draft, which has been argued against by some, but he is by no means a sure fire franchise guy. The Chiefs need help on their O-line desperately. I think their best move would be OL in the 1st and 2nd. When they were making the playoffs consistently it was largely because of their line. Sure they had soem talented skill guys, but the line drove that offense, and I think Edwards is the kind of coach who wants to win in the trenches. I see them going line, either O or D, but I hope O, because their OL has fallen apart.Also, I saw on NFL network that Peterson had been talking about how they need to get 5 or 6 starters out of this draft. It wasn't said, but I don't think QB is one of those positions.

then they need to bring somebody in at QB........or else they will have this high of a pick again next year.......maybe they could turn some of the 10 picks they have in this draft into another 1st rounder and snag Brohm

I don't see them turning it around this year and making the playoffs anyway, so I wouldn't mind seeing them with this high of a draft pick again next year. Bring in some good young players and really build something instead of cobbling together a bunch of crap and trying to squeek into the playoffs to lose their first game.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

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- Dolphins don't want Matt Ryan. People Schefter respects love Ryan. The Ravens would "do cartwheels" if Ryan falls to them. The Ravens may trade up to get him (Chiefs? - my thoughts here).

- First two picks will be JLong and Dorsey "take it to the bank". Dorsey could even go #1 in a trade up. Dolphins will trade with "any partner" - then he says "tune in to NFL Network tonight" (Patriots? - my thoughts here)

- Jason Taylor was going to be traded for 2nd or 3rd, seems like a 2nd now - could even go up from there. Says again he can't say everything he knows. (then says Ireland hasn't returned his calls). Dolphins aren't talking to anyone in the media about their plans - keeping everything very tight.

- Jake Long is the only player the Dolphins have talked to as of yesterday. They are not close on an agreement. Long has not been given a deadline - even if Parcells has said there is one in his mind to Peter King.

- A coach with a top 10 pick said to him "isnt it interesting that you havent heard MCFadden's name come out of the Fins camp at all"? Schefter says he doesn't believe that McFadden is in play at #1, but that this coach said McFadden is #1 on his board.

- Didn't directly address question about Beck's future with the Dolphins, but suggested that if the #1 is JLong, then could be a combo deal with a 2nd round QB.

Watch NFL Network tonight to get the update!

great stuff here, Bloom....BTW, this is the 2nd time in 2 days I've seen mention of a KC/Balt swap in the 1stw/no 3rd (traded for McGahee) or 5th(supplemental pick for OT-Gaither), I'd hate to see us burn the '08-2nd and next yrs 1st to get Ryan...(yes,we do own 4 compensatory picks, including a 4th for AD)

I've seen a few positional rankings where Ryan---concensus #1 QB off the board---isn't the concensus #1 QB talent wise

...and I think Taylor for a 2nd would be as close to 'stone cold lock' as there is

as a KC fan I don't think this will happen.....if Long is gone which he will be and Ryan is there KC will take him and then adress the oline in the next few rounds......KC has not had this high of a draft pick in quite some time.....this is their chance to get "the guy"....KC has not had a "get you to the next level QB" since an aging Montana....with all apologies to Trent Green, but he just never got them where they needed to go......this is KC's chance to get "the guy" and if they trade this pick to Balt and let them take "the guy" instead, I think heads will roll.....Long is the only other player besides Ryan with this pick......unless they look at trading up and getting back into the 1st round to grab Brohm after taking Clady

wose case scenerio for KC is if both Long and Ryan are gone.......losing that coin flip really hurt....

I can't see them taking Ryan, and I really don't think they should. He might be the best QB in this draft, which has been argued against by some, but he is by no means a sure fire franchise guy. The Chiefs need help on their O-line desperately. I think their best move would be OL in the 1st and 2nd. When they were making the playoffs consistently it was largely because of their line. Sure they had soem talented skill guys, but the line drove that offense, and I think Edwards is the kind of coach who wants to win in the trenches. I see them going line, either O or D, but I hope O, because their OL has fallen apart.Also, I saw on NFL network that Peterson had been talking about how they need to get 5 or 6 starters out of this draft. It wasn't said, but I don't think QB is one of those positions.

then they need to bring somebody in at QB........or else they will have this high of a pick again next year.......maybe they could turn some of the 10 picks they have in this draft into another 1st rounder and snag Brohm

I don't see them turning it around this year and making the playoffs anyway, so I wouldn't mind seeing them with this high of a draft pick again next year. Bring in some good young players and really build something instead of cobbling together a bunch of crap and trying to squeek into the playoffs to lose their first game.

that has been their problem in past years......never quite good enough to get in the playoffs and do some damage (getting in two years ago was a fluke and took a miracle final Sunday of the season for them to get in) but also not quite sucky enough to get a high draft pick and get some bona fide studs....instaed they have always been in that 18-24 range and have had to take chances on guys (like Croyle).....never really getting an impact player in the first round....Bowe may pan out, but otherwise its been avrage pick after average pick....this is their chance to get a top flite guy.....they better take advantage of it.....with Long off the board early......taking another Ol at 5 seems to not have a lot of value.....so then yes a trade is more likely if they are commited to OL.....if they are indeed in a youth movement mode, Ryan seems like a good place to start and then build around him with the other 9 picks as best as you can.....not sure what will be in th eQB draft next year, but I think taking Ryan here is a safe play.....also heard something about Losman to KC....I wouldn't mind something cause watching Huard and Croyle again for another year will make me puke...........

 

[CanadianNFLJunkie]

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- Jason Taylor was going to be traded for 2nd or 3rd, seems like a 2nd now - could even go up from there. Says again he can't say everything he knows. (then says Ireland hasn't returned his calls). Dolphins aren't talking to anyone in the media about their plans - keeping everything very tight.

I'm torn on this. What's the play here for both Miami and a prospective team like the Jaguars? Two teams I've heard that expressed the most interest were Minnesota and Jacksonville, both of whom need a pass rusher as a distinct need. While Miami has a better leveraging position in that they COULD be in a position to grab a talented DE @16 or trade up a few spots without giving up too much. But Jacksonville does not have that luxury @26, nor do they want to give up too much talent in the first day (2nd and 3rd round picks have been CRITICAL to the success of the Jaguars, and in recent years, even moreso than their 1st rounders.)

If you are the Vikings/Jags, do you get this done now and plan the draft out, or do you get this done on draft day, holding out for a better deal and bank on the fact that it will get done? Will his price drop as draft day comes, towards the 3rd+5th trend we saw with the superstar DT's (Stroud, Rogers) or will it rise?

And for those Miami homers, is there a chance he doesn't get moved?

If I were the Vikings, I'd try very, very hard to give up one of the 2 3rd round picks we have for Taylor. Maybe even go and give up a 3rd this year and a conditonal pick the following year based on his 'success" but HECK YEAH I would do it. I'd do it now as well, then probably trade down out of their #1 pick to either lower in the 1st or early in the second, thinking they could get a OL or a TE late first then go after Flacco or whichever QB they cherish with the other 2nd rounder. To me, if they could get a solid pass rusher on this D most of their problems with be fixed, giving the secondary a better than fighting chance of covering WR's.

 

[Marauder]

So which one of

Miami

St.Louis

Atlanta

Oakland

Kansas City

NY Jets

NE Patriots

Baltimore

Cincinnati

New Orleans

has McFadden at No.1 on their board.

I think New England is the team however. Hasn't McFadden visited them?

Just to be clear....the OP wrote that:A coach with a top 10 pick....said McFadden is #1 on his board.

So putting both these pieces of info together, you believe that:

Bill Belichick (or one of his coaches!) told Adam Schefter (a member of the media!!!) who NE has as the #1 player (on the their draft board!!!!)....when six teams will pick before the Pats and countless others could trade to get ahead of them!!!!!!!! Really?

Repeat after me [with a lisp] INCONCEIVABLE!

....unless it's subtefuge...in which case it's equally invalid.

There is no way in hell that the Coach of any team in the top ten is voluneering to Adam Schefter who the number one player on their board is. If this conversation did take place it is much more likely that team has no interest at all in McFadden but is trying to drum up interest in him so the player they really want will fall to them.

 

[KarmaPolice]

So which one of

Miami

St.Louis

Atlanta

Oakland

Kansas City

NY Jets

NE Patriots

Baltimore

Cincinnati

New Orleans

has McFadden at No.1 on their board.

I think New England is the team however. Hasn't McFadden visited them?

Just to be clear....the OP wrote that:A coach with a top 10 pick....said McFadden is #1 on his board.

So putting both these pieces of info together, you believe that:

Bill Belichick (or one of his coaches!) told Adam Schefter (a member of the media!!!) who NE has as the #1 player (on the their draft board!!!!)....when six teams will pick before the Pats and countless others could trade to get ahead of them!!!!!!!! Really?

Repeat after me [with a lisp] INCONCEIVABLE!

....unless it's subtefuge...in which case it's equally invalid.

There is no way in hell that the Coach of any team in the top ten is voluneering to Adam Schefter who the number one player on their board is. If this conversation did take place it is much more likely that team has no interest at all in McFadden but is trying to drum up interest in him so the player they really want will fall to them.

OR what I thought was it was a team like StL that isn't going to take him. There's a big difference between having him #1 on your board and taking him with their pick if they need something else.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Schefter reported on NFL Net that the Saints have had preliminary talks with the Rams about moving up for #2 - Dorsey seems like a logical target.

 

[acefootball]

Schefter reported on NFL Net that the Saints have had preliminary talks with the Rams about moving up for #2 - Dorsey seems like a logical target.

Found a linky.

 

[jeter23]

NFL.com's Adam Schefter reports Arkansas RB Darren McFadden is the top-rated player on the Rams' draft board.

 

[Bob Magaw]

not sure if the rams would want to drop out of the top 6-7, elite player pool (where they might still get gholston or ellis)...

who would STL settle for... probably no DT there... harvey might be best DE avaiable...

if long, albert & clady are gone, that would leave chris williams & jeff otah at OT... i don't think they would look at any skill positions here... secondary could be a need, but not as big as fortifications on the lines...

maybe keith rivers, who would be about right value here, but wouldn't help with the lines...

fakhir brown reportedly dodged a bullet & was suspended only for first four games of the season... need for a CB in first 2-3 picks might not be as pressing, but they probably still need one...

it sure would be nice to add another 2nd rounder, in addition to their own high 2nd, as they are in need of reloading & injecting some youth & talent on both sides of the ball...

if they could pull this off & just drop to 6-7, i'd do it in a heartbeat to add a 2nd, but if they have to drop all the way to 1.10, i think i would prefer to just take dorsey or c. long (if j. long goes to MIA... if not, he could be at the top of the rams list)...

 

[gianmarco]

NFL.com's Adam Schefter reports Arkansas RB Darren McFadden is the top-rated player on the Rams' draft board.

While I can't imagine them taking McFadden, SJax is in a contract year, I believe. What happens if he leaves? Where does he go? Does his value go up, down, or stay the same?

 

[Boston]

not sure if the rams would want to drop out of the top 6-7, elite player pool (where they might still get gholston or ellis)...

who would STL settle for... probably no DT there... harvey might be best DE avaiable...

if long, albert & clady are gone, that would leave chris williams & jeff otah at OT... i don't think they would look at any skill positions here... secondary could be a need, but not as big as fortifications on the lines...

maybe keith rivers, who would be about right value here, but wouldn't help with the lines...

fakhir brown reportedly dodged a bullet & was suspended only for first four games of the season... need for a CB in first 2-3 picks might not be as pressing, but they probably still need one...

it sure would be nice to add another 2nd rounder, in addition to their own high 2nd, as they are in need of reloading & injecting some youth & talent on both sides of the ball...

if they could pull this off & just drop to 6-7, i'd do it in a heartbeat to add a 2nd, but if they have to drop all the way to 1.10, i think i would prefer to just take dorsey or c. long (if j. long goes to MIA... if not, he could be at the top of the rams list)...

For what it's worth...I heard a rumor on the radio today that the Pats are looking hard at Dorsey. If that's the case than a Pats-Rams deal could be a possibility. There's also a mention of the Pats/Dorsey in this article:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-c...o&type=lgns

 

[Lord of the Rings]

So which one of MiamiSt.LouisAtlantaOaklandKansas CityNY JetsNE PatriotsBaltimoreCincinnatiNew Orleanshas McFadden at No.1 on their board.New Orleans, Baltimore and St.Louis (and probably Miami) won't take him.Cincinnati trading up (Chad Johnson as bait?)I think New England is the team however. Hasn't McFadden visited them?

Cincinnati trades C. Johnson and the #9 (plus ???) to Miami for the #1. Miami then selects Clady at #9. Solid OT, cheaper than JLong @ #1. Parcells and his ego has handled Keyshawn and T.O. now he wants a shot at C.J. eventhough this time around he will "won't be the coach."

 

[el centro]

I just read this thread, and missed out on "Path to the Draft" & NFL Access tonight. Can anyone update on Bloom's notes at the start of Schefters comments?