Addai. Ceiling and Floor (1 Viewer)

[phillzphan]

Its really tough for me to judge how many carries this kid will get. Edge's rookie year he got 369 carries for 1553 yards and 13 TDs. Addai has some talent but Rhodes is talking a lot of trash that he will get the starting job.

What are your thoughts on his potentials this year?

 

[LGOA]

I'd say about 165/700/5TDs 33 rec/350/2TD

 

[Z-Dog]

I wouldn't look at Edge's numbers as a comparision. Edge was the first RB drafted, ahead of Ricky Williams, in the top 5. Addai is not that caliber of back. Besides, Indy has an 1100 yard rusher on the roster in Dominic Rhodes, and you better believe that he's going to get playing time. Indy is in win-now mode, and they will not rely on a rookie to be the rushing offense. Addai and Rhodes will split time all year, unless one of them simply blows the other guy out of the water. I don't see that happening though, so RBBC here.

 

[TheFanatic]

I wouldn't look at Edge's numbers as a comparision. Edge was the first RB drafted, ahead of Ricky Williams, in the top 5. Addai is not that caliber of back. Besides, Indy has an 1100 yard rusher on the roster in Dominic Rhodes, and you better believe that he's going to get playing time. Indy is in win-now mode, and they will not rely on a rookie to be the rushing offense. Addai and Rhodes will split time all year, unless one of them simply blows the other guy out of the water. I don't see that happening though, so RBBC here.

The flaw in that argument is that if Indy had so much faith in Rhodes, why did they draft a RB so high? They could've drafted someone in the mid rounds if they thought Rhodes could get it done. Rhodes did alright in a system that he should've done a lot better than alright. In particular, I believe Manning got sacked a lot the year Rhodes got his 1K yards. That can't happen. Rhodes has been in the league for a while and still doesn't block well. Looks like the Colts will look to teach a rookie rather than rely on an old dog that can't learn new tricks.

BTW, I own Rhodes in a Dynasty League.

 

[JimmyD]

I wouldn't look at Edge's numbers as a comparision. Edge was the first RB drafted, ahead of Ricky Williams, in the top 5. Addai is not that caliber of back. Besides, Indy has an 1100 yard rusher on the roster in Dominic Rhodes, and you better believe that he's going to get playing time. Indy is in win-now mode, and they will not rely on a rookie to be the rushing offense. Addai and Rhodes will split time all year, unless one of them simply blows the other guy out of the water. I don't see that happening though, so RBBC here.

The flaw in that argument is that if Indy had so much faith in Rhodes, why did they draft a RB so high? They could've drafted someone in the mid rounds if they thought Rhodes could get it done. Rhodes did alright in a system that he should've done a lot better than alright. In particular, I believe Manning got sacked a lot the year Rhodes got his 1K yards. That can't happen. Rhodes has been in the league for a while and still doesn't block well. Looks like the Colts will look to teach a rookie rather than rely on an old dog that can't learn new tricks.

BTW, I own Rhodes in a Dynasty League.

Is there any numbers on that? I don't think I saw any Rhodes games, so if he was missing blocks then that is a big deal or even just stinks at blocking.I feel comfortable saying that JA is a better runner and even receiver, but my thought was that he wouldn't be on the field very much if he can't pick up the audibles and blocking assignments. If Rhodes isn't very good at it and there isn't a huge gap between Rhodes and him in that area then I would think Addai would get more chances.

 

[Blackjacks]

I wouldn't look at Edge's numbers as a comparision. Edge was the first RB drafted, ahead of Ricky Williams, in the top 5. Addai is not that caliber of back. Besides, Indy has an 1100 yard rusher on the roster in Dominic Rhodes, and you better believe that he's going to get playing time. Indy is in win-now mode, and they will not rely on a rookie to be the rushing offense. Addai and Rhodes will split time all year, unless one of them simply blows the other guy out of the water. I don't see that happening though, so RBBC here.

The flaw in that argument is that if Indy had so much faith in Rhodes, why did they draft a RB so high? They could've drafted someone in the mid rounds if they thought Rhodes could get it done. Rhodes did alright in a system that he should've done a lot better than alright. In particular, I believe Manning got sacked a lot the year Rhodes got his 1K yards. That can't happen. Rhodes has been in the league for a while and still doesn't block well. Looks like the Colts will look to teach a rookie rather than rely on an old dog that can't learn new tricks.

BTW, I own Rhodes in a Dynasty League.

Don't you also own ADDAI as well?

 

[ProdigyofParcells]

I wouldn't look at Edge's numbers as a comparision. Edge was the first RB drafted, ahead of Ricky Williams, in the top 5. Addai is not that caliber of back. Besides, Indy has an 1100 yard rusher on the roster in Dominic Rhodes, and you better believe that he's going to get playing time. Indy is in win-now mode, and they will not rely on a rookie to be the rushing offense. Addai and Rhodes will split time all year, unless one of them simply blows the other guy out of the water. I don't see that happening though, so RBBC here.

The flaw in that argument is that if Indy had so much faith in Rhodes, why did they draft a RB so high? They could've drafted someone in the mid rounds if they thought Rhodes could get it done. Rhodes did alright in a system that he should've done a lot better than alright. In particular, I believe Manning got sacked a lot the year Rhodes got his 1K yards. That can't happen. Rhodes has been in the league for a while and still doesn't block well. Looks like the Colts will look to teach a rookie rather than rely on an old dog that can't learn new tricks.

BTW, I own Rhodes in a Dynasty League.

Don't you also own ADDAI as well?

I personally love Addai and see him getting the starters job at worst by midseason either due to performance issues with Rhodes or durability. I think Addai is a plug and play back in the Indy system. He was drafted IMO due to his completeness as a player and by default(I think Maroney was the target but thats another story ).

Rhodes can play but durability concerns I think are his achilles heel.

 

[Z-Dog]

I wouldn't look at Edge's numbers as a comparision. Edge was the first RB drafted, ahead of Ricky Williams, in the top 5. Addai is not that caliber of back. Besides, Indy has an 1100 yard rusher on the roster in Dominic Rhodes, and you better believe that he's going to get playing time. Indy is in win-now mode, and they will not rely on a rookie to be the rushing offense. Addai and Rhodes will split time all year, unless one of them simply blows the other guy out of the water. I don't see that happening though, so RBBC here.

The flaw in that argument is that if Indy had so much faith in Rhodes, why did they draft a RB so high? They could've drafted someone in the mid rounds if they thought Rhodes could get it done. Rhodes did alright in a system that he should've done a lot better than alright. In particular, I believe Manning got sacked a lot the year Rhodes got his 1K yards. That can't happen. Rhodes has been in the league for a while and still doesn't block well. Looks like the Colts will look to teach a rookie rather than rely on an old dog that can't learn new tricks.

BTW, I own Rhodes in a Dynasty League.

Every team in the NFL tries to have two backs. That's just the way of it. Why did the Bears draft Benson if Jones was picking up 1300 yards? Why did the Saints add Bush to McAllister? Why did the Chiefs add LJ to Holmes? RBs get hurt. You need more than one guy. Rhodes has been dinged up, and Addai is, like you say, a good fit for the system. But Rhodes will get his carries. He has a career 4.5 ypc, and ran for 4.7 ypc and 9 TDs in his rookie season, finishing with over 1300 combined yards. I just can't imagine why Indy wouldn't want to keep giving him the ball.

 

[jpapadub]

I agree Z-dog, and here's a couple more for good measure:

McCallister drafted in the first round with Ricky Williams coming off of 1000 yards in only 10 starts.

McGahee drafted in the first round with Travis Henry coming off of back-to-back 1300+ yard seasons.

Shaun Alexander taken in the first round when Ricky Watters was coming off of back-to-back 1200yd+rush/300yd+rec seasons.

Trung Canidate drafted in the first round the year after Marshall Faulk goes for 2,429 All purpose yards.

All of these players were drafted as fits for their system. Some got off to quick starts, while others...well...they were Trung Canidate.

Another situation where a team drafted for depth, but is more closely related to Addai's is the Dayne/Barber situation. Barber was playing in relative obscurity (like Rhodes) and NYG picked up Dayne with the first round pick. I like to think that Addai will hit hit the ground running, but it is a bit to early to discount Rhodes, especially with what he's shown when given the rock with regularity he can flat-out put up big numbers.

 

[MLBrandow]

I wouldn't look at Edge's numbers as a comparision. Edge was the first RB drafted, ahead of Ricky Williams, in the top 5. Addai is not that caliber of back. Besides, Indy has an 1100 yard rusher on the roster in Dominic Rhodes, and you better believe that he's going to get playing time. Indy is in win-now mode, and they will not rely on a rookie to be the rushing offense. Addai and Rhodes will split time all year, unless one of them simply blows the other guy out of the water. I don't see that happening though, so RBBC here.

The flaw in that argument is that if Indy had so much faith in Rhodes, why did they draft a RB so high? They could've drafted someone in the mid rounds if they thought Rhodes could get it done. Rhodes did alright in a system that he should've done a lot better than alright. In particular, I believe Manning got sacked a lot the year Rhodes got his 1K yards. That can't happen. Rhodes has been in the league for a while and still doesn't block well. Looks like the Colts will look to teach a rookie rather than rely on an old dog that can't learn new tricks.

BTW, I own Rhodes in a Dynasty League.

The flaw in that argument is that it is assumed that IND doesn't like Rhodes as their running back.Rhodes is every bit as good as Edge was in that system, and I'm not sure it's necessarily a compliment on Rhodes as much as it is a knock on Edge (that's irrelevant to this topic), but in either case, there was no drop-off in any stat category with Rhodes in his place in '01.

The only problem was the pass-blocking. Take a look at Manning's career stats. Mitigating the rookie learning curve, look at the year that stands out. It's 2001. And it stands out because Edge is a great pass-blocker, and when he went down, Rhodes took over without missing a beat... except for the pass-blocking.

Manning's INTs were abnormally high, as were his sacks taken.

Addai was drafted not because they need to rush him along and are in dire straits at RB, but because Rhodes can't pass block, and they need a guy that can come in, do that job for Rhodes, and be good enough to be groomed for the job in the future (NOT THIS YEAR).

 

[gman8343]

Is anyone concerned that Rhodes' one great season was five years ago, while David Boston was still a dominant player? Since then he's had some substantial injuries (ACL, chronic shoulder problems) and has been relegated to spot duty. He could be just as good, but he could easily have lost a step or two.

 

[radballs]

I'm just going to keep up on reports and preseason games to see how well Addai is picking up the offense and blocking schemes. There's no doubt he has more talent, but the Indy offense is more complicated than most and helping to protect Manning will be a team priority. Also, Manning audibles a lot and if Addai has any learning curve issues, Rhodes will be the main man for 2006.

 

[Punchie]

I just can't shake the feeling that Addai = JJ Arrington.