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what are the underlying assumptions behind the average draft position list from FBG? This information should be posted somewhere, since different league size , starters and scoring can significantly change ADP...

 
Thanx, but you missed my question, I think:What are the assumptions behind those 230 picks? 10 teams or 12? FBG scoring? What roster size?

My league is a 10 team, 16 man roster, PPR scoring league. ADP does me no good if the info isn't (relatively) close to what my draft will look like!

 
Thanx, but you missed my question, I think:What are the assumptions behind those 230 picks? 10 teams or 12? FBG scoring? What roster size?

My league is a 10 team, 16 man roster, PPR scoring league. ADP does me no good if the info isn't (relatively) close to what my draft will look like!
12 is the norm, as you know, for the FF world. Then 14 and 10 come in a distant 2nd
 
How does league size change that ADP data?

I understand scoring, but I never understood why league size matters.

Sure in a 10 you might wait on QBs, go WR earlier. But I'm not sure it would skew things that much. ADP gives you a general idea of where people are going. And honestly, I'm not sure the scoring matters.

I use ADP data to identify value. Guys at RB20-25 who I project to RB15-20. WR30-35 who I project to 20-25. Gives me an idea of the general perception players.

People are overlooking Rod Smith in PPR and non-PPR. So I'm not sure it even matters that much.

 
How does league size change that ADP data?

I understand scoring, but I never understood why league size matters.
It makes a huge difference. QBs and RBs go much earlier in 16 team leagues vs. 8 team leagues. In an 8 team league, the preferred strategy is to get studs at every position if possible. In a 16 team league, the supply and demand of starting RBs and QBs makes them come off the board much sooner.This has been one of my pet peeves regarding this data. It would be great if there was a way to collect enough ADP information that when putting in your league settings into the DD, it actually spit out more intelligent ADP given the parameters. For example, you always need to factor that in and draft pass catching RBs (like Chris Perry or Marion Barber) much sooner in a 1 ppr league than the FBG ADP data will suggest. Or if you're in a league that gives 2 ppr to tight ends, will there ever be away to have the ADP automatically adjust for those variables? This would greatly increase the effectiveness of the DD.

 
How does league size change that ADP data?

I understand scoring, but I never understood why league size matters.
It makes a huge difference. QBs and RBs go much earlier in 16 team leagues vs. 8 team leagues. In an 8 team league, the preferred strategy is to get studs at every position if possible. In a 16 team league, the supply and demand of starting RBs and QBs makes them come off the board much sooner.This has been one of my pet peeves regarding this data. It would be great if there was a way to collect enough ADP information that when putting in your league settings into the DD, it actually spit out more intelligent ADP given the parameters. For example, you always need to factor that in and draft pass catching RBs (like Chris Perry or Marion Barber) much sooner in a 1 ppr league than the FBG ADP data will suggest. Or if you're in a league that gives 2 ppr to tight ends, will there ever be away to have the ADP automatically adjust for those variables? This would greatly increase the effectiveness of the DD.

I agree with what you are saying BUT that would make for guppies growing into Sharks WAY Before their time. Fine tuning of any list is a projection of stats for your leagues scoring and this is where time and effort on sites like FBG help to fine tune your rankings..
 
How does league size change that ADP data?I understand scoring, but I never understood why league size matters.
It makes a huge difference. QBs and RBs go much earlier in 16 team leagues vs. 8 team leagues. In an 8 team league, the preferred strategy is to get studs at every position if possible. In a 16 team league, the supply and demand of starting RBs and QBs makes them come off the board much sooner.

This has been one of my pet peeves regarding this data. It would be great if there was a way to collect enough ADP information that when putting in your league settings into the DD, it actually spit out more intelligent ADP given the parameters. For example, you always need to factor that in and draft pass catching RBs (like Chris Perry or Marion Barber) much sooner in a 1 ppr league than the FBG ADP data will suggest. Or if you're in a league that gives 2 ppr to tight ends, will there ever be away to have the ADP automatically adjust for those variables? This would greatly increase the effectiveness of the DD.

I agree with what you are saying BUT that would make for guppies growing into Sharks WAY Before their time. Fine tuning of any list is a projection of stats for your leagues scoring and this is where time and effort on sites like FBG help to fine tune your rankings..
 
It's all relative to the type of leagumates you're in. In my local league I know that everyone but me either drafts out of magazines or printe out espn.com cheatsheets.

I make sure to have the espn.com sheets and avg magazine rankings available to me at my draft. Also, I track how each person typically drafts each season, so I know who picks QBs early, waits on RBs, etc...

In my more competitive leagues, ADP is a better indication.....however I make damn sure that whatever ADP I use mirrors the type of league I am in to the best of my ability.

 
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what are the underlying assumptions behind the average draft position list from FBG? This information should be posted somewhere, since different league size , starters and scoring can significantly change ADP...
The data is compiled from the two most popular mocking sites, which provides a huge sample, and MFL where early drafts are the norm. The data from Xperts is based on 12 team non PPR (for the most part, but that site is heavily influenced by 10s). Maybe Red can better explain. Nevertheless since your league is 10 PPR, you can only use that info as a guide, a good guide. Bump the backs who get a lot of receptions. Move the 1 and 2 WRs all up a half round or so, and you're getting a good approximation.

 

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