exactly, and just think when they actually start running to the left side of the line when the season starts, the holes are going to be there for this guy to break the long runs that taylor couldn't last yearAddai didn't start a game last year for the Colts, but who was the better fantasy player between Rhodes and Addai? I know the Colts offense and the Vikings offense aren't close, but Peterson>>Addai. Taylor is starting, but it is doubtful that he will play more than Peterson.Keep drinking the koolaid ap fansLets see. The coach says its TaylorBOTH major papers say its TaylorThe offensive coordinator says its TaylorTaylor starts each preseason game, then gets pulled and replaced by APBut no, all the AP fans "know" that AP is da man.Eventually - perhaps. Starting off? Not a chance
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O.K.All better now.Seems to me there's plenty of room in the Minny offense for both backs to be productive. Taylor got really banged up towards the end of the season, I think Childress will split carries pretty evenly to keep both guys fresh and healthy throughout the season. The Vikes have the defense and the offense to bludgeon people for 4 quarters, I think that's how it'll play out most games. Peterson's advantage over Taylor is speed, power, vision and agility, so even if they get even touches I'd expect Peterson to do more with them.
I wouldn't expect this as long as both are on the team. It's to their advantage to use them both just about equally. While not as gifted as Peterson, Taylor doesn't suck. They can move the chains with either guy, and keeping them both fresh will make them both more effective throughout the season. Plus if Peterson is to be the franchise for Minny for years to come, you may as well reduce the number of car crashes he's in while you've got another guy around who can do the job too. If I'm Childress I'm using them both as much as possible and carting out a play action pass every now and then. Very few defenses will be able to hang with that kind of pounding - keep the game close and own the 4th quarter. If they can do that - and I think they can - they'll win more games than people expect.he's getting a 60-70% load over Taylor.
I have the same exact decision. Those three for one spot.Leaning towards Benson, as you know he won't be time-sharing.Week 1 is always the hardest week to pick starters for.
I have Chester and AD. I don't know if I will start Chester at all as long as AD is healthy.
(Or Benson vs. S.D.)
I bet both the Minny boys put up better stats against Atlanta than Benson does against the Chargers.Leaning towards Benson, as you know he won't be time-sharing.
Possible that one of them does; unlikely both of them do, and I don't feel like throwing darts in week 1.I bet both the Minny boys put up better stats against Atlanta than Benson does against the Chargers.Leaning towards Benson, as you know he won't be time-sharing.
That is the issue here and I have tried to address it as best I could but I am just as much in the dark about how the distribution and performance will ultimately be as anyone.I can see several scenarios playing out and possibly combinations of these scenarios.Possible that one of them does; unlikely both of them do, and I don't feel like throwing darts in week 1.I bet both the Minny boys put up better stats against Atlanta than Benson does against the Chargers.Leaning towards Benson, as you know he won't be time-sharing.
I wouldn't count on that. Cooper and Wilhelm are probably better vs. the run than Godfrey and Edwards (at this point in their careers). I think the pass defense takes a hit due to the change though.Benson vs. the Chargers may not be as bad as it has been in recent years due to the changes of SD inside linebackers.
I have drafted twice in 12 team redrafts in the past week, he was gone at 2.12 and 3.2If you want him, go get him.After reading all of this, I would like to post a question. For everyone, where do you see his stats falling at the end of the season? And, what is the highest possible position you would consider drafting him within your draft? I believe his ADP is 4th round at this moment.I have to admit, I've been very impressed with Peterson and believe he will be a great back, barring injury, in the future but I am not too sold on him for this season. Just trying to get a read on how he is being ranked amongst the sharks.
Sorry man. You're back on the Taylor/Peterson/Benson island all by yourself. When I posted earlier, I completely forgot that I also took Fred Taylor in the 8th round. Jacksonville is hosting the Titans in week 1. I think he is clearly the play here over the other three. But again, I'd play Benson in your situation. Caddy would have to show it to me at least once, and he's no lock to do anything noteworthy at Qwest Field.Biabreakable said:That is the issue here and I have tried to address it as best I could but I am just as much in the dark about how the distribution and performance will ultimately be as anyone.I can see several scenarios playing out and possibly combinations of these scenarios.Possible that one of them does; unlikely both of them do, and I don't feel like throwing darts in week 1.I bet both the Minny boys put up better stats against Atlanta than Benson does against the Chargers.Leaning towards Benson, as you know he won't be time-sharing.
1. Vikings control ATL offense (almost certain ATL will not be able to run against them) and get an early lead by FG or TD. Continue to alternate Chester and AD evenly.
2. Vikings get more than 1TD lead and shift to running Chester exclusivly with the game in hand. I see this happening throughout the season when the Vikings build a good lead even if AD is starting by then. AD will probobly be the reason for the lead. AD will still be GL RB.
3. Vikings get behind due to quick strike passing offense by ATL. Vikings continue to run the ball but carries shift more to AD for his big play ability.
Really the only situation that I see being bad for AD is if the Vikings get an early lead and I am right that they use Chester to close the game out. But if the Vikes do get an early lead (or even a later significant lead) it will likely be because of a big play by AD. So having Chester close it out still might be a good game for AD. The other 2 scenario's should allow AD to get significant opportunities.
Benson vs. the Chargers may not be as bad as it has been in recent years due to the changes of SD inside linebackers.
I will probably be thinking it over until game time.
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I edited your post for brevity. So you pretty much agree that this could be an ugly defensive battle?Biabreakable said:Falcons defense in 2006 was decent vs. the run. They allowed 3.7 ypc for the season and an average of 103.6 yards/game which was ranked 9th in the league. This was a vast improvement from 2005 when the Falcons gave up 4.7 ypc for the season and an average of 128.9 yards/game which was ranked 26th. That being said the Falcons defense is no where near as formidable as the Vikings run defense that allowed 2.8 ypc for the season and an average of 61.6 yards/game.CowboyFan said:The only thing "stone cold" will be the Vikings passing, uhm, attack(?)Falcons stack the box and lock down the run. People seriously underrate the Atl def. The biggest weakness is the secondary, but I can't see Tarvaris being able to exploit even that."stone cold" lol
So who is going to stop who?
Seriously???I have AD as my second back.... Who would you start for me 2nd back without PPR and TDs 6pts:
A) Adrian Peterson
B) Deangelo Williams
C) Brandon Jackson
D) Brian Leonard
I dunno what to do...
Glad you had the Nads to throw it out there and give some truth as I see it, The Media(ESPN), well many anyway seem to want to throw the whole Falcons organization under the bus this season. The logic is "they are a weaker team without VICK" I think Harrington is going to suprise many people tis year, Petrino's Offense is perfect for Harrington. I see Joey finishing the year in the top 15 of QB's.As to Peterson running for 100 yds and 2 TD's? I guess its possible but not likely. Peterson will be a great back in the NFL, but he needs some work. I think 10 carries for 30 yards is more likely. 9 of those for 2 yards or less and one break out run for 15 yards. Peterson has not adjusted to the NFL game yet. He is still dancing around and getting caught in the backfield. Since I dont believe too much in Tavaris Jackson I am going to go with the Falcons blowing out the Vikings in a mild upset, 35 to 10. As the season progresses I see Peterson taking on a larger role and having a few giant games on a miniscule amount of carries. If healthy Peterson will be the clear cut starter next year. I am still taking Taylor first in re-drafts this year.Taylor and Jackson combine for 1700 yards Rushing and 12 TD's, 45 Receptions and 2 TD's. Split it up however you like.CowboyFan said:The only thing "stone cold" will be the Vikings passing, uhm, attack(?)Falcons stack the box and lock down the run. People seriously underrate the Atl def. The biggest weakness is the secondary, but I can't see Tarvaris being able to exploit even that."stone cold" lol
If he gets 10 carries then 9 of them will be for 2 yards or less? Peterson hasn't adjusted to the NFL game yet? He dances around too much in the backfield? Have you even watched the Vikings, and specifically Peterson, in the preseason? Your observations are unfounded.As to Peterson running for 100 yds and 2 TD's? I guess its possible but not likely. Peterson will be a great back in the NFL, but he needs some work. I think 10 carries for 30 yards is more likely. 9 of those for 2 yards or less and one break out run for 15 yards. Peterson has not adjusted to the NFL game yet. He is still dancing around and getting caught in the backfield.CowboyFan said:The only thing "stone cold" will be the Vikings passing, uhm, attack(?)Falcons stack the box and lock down the run. People seriously underrate the Atl def. The biggest weakness is the secondary, but I can't see Tarvaris being able to exploit even that."stone cold" lol
If he gets 10 carries then 9 of them will be for 2 yards or less? Peterson hasn't adjusted to the NFL game yet? He dances around too much in the backfield? Have you even watched the Vikings, and specifically Peterson, in the preseason? Your observations are unfounded.As to Peterson running for 100 yds and 2 TD's? I guess its possible but not likely. Peterson will be a great back in the NFL, but he needs some work. I think 10 carries for 30 yards is more likely. 9 of those for 2 yards or less and one break out run for 15 yards. Peterson has not adjusted to the NFL game yet. He is still dancing around and getting caught in the backfield.CowboyFan said:The only thing "stone cold" will be the Vikings passing, uhm, attack(?)Falcons stack the box and lock down the run. People seriously underrate the Atl def. The biggest weakness is the secondary, but I can't see Tarvaris being able to exploit even that."stone cold" lol
The only dancing I saw was after he bowled over the defensive back on the 43 yd run. Other than that, he has done NO dancing in the backfield.If he gets 10 carries then 9 of them will be for 2 yards or less? Peterson hasn't adjusted to the NFL game yet? He dances around too much in the backfield? Have you even watched the Vikings, and specifically Peterson, in the preseason? Your observations are unfounded.As to Peterson running for 100 yds and 2 TD's? I guess its possible but not likely. Peterson will be a great back in the NFL, but he needs some work. I think 10 carries for 30 yards is more likely. 9 of those for 2 yards or less and one break out run for 15 yards. Peterson has not adjusted to the NFL game yet. He is still dancing around and getting caught in the backfield.CowboyFan said:The only thing "stone cold" will be the Vikings passing, uhm, attack(?)Falcons stack the box and lock down the run. People seriously underrate the Atl def. The biggest weakness is the secondary, but I can't see Tarvaris being able to exploit even that."stone cold" lol![]()
Peterson is notorious for getting either -2 yds, 5 yds, or 30+ yds. That's all he ever did at OU-and trust me I watched him enough to know. I don't see the "NFL game" changing this much.I have no doubts Peterson will get his-even in Week 1. The big question will be if he can stay healthy while doing it?If he gets 10 carries then 9 of them will be for 2 yards or less? Peterson hasn't adjusted to the NFL game yet? He dances around too much in the backfield? Have you even watched the Vikings, and specifically Peterson, in the preseason? Your observations are unfounded.As to Peterson running for 100 yds and 2 TD's? I guess its possible but not likely. Peterson will be a great back in the NFL, but he needs some work. I think 10 carries for 30 yards is more likely. 9 of those for 2 yards or less and one break out run for 15 yards. Peterson has not adjusted to the NFL game yet. He is still dancing around and getting caught in the backfield.CowboyFan said:The only thing "stone cold" will be the Vikings passing, uhm, attack(?)Falcons stack the box and lock down the run. People seriously underrate the Atl def. The biggest weakness is the secondary, but I can't see Tarvaris being able to exploit even that."stone cold" lol
AKA "Barry Sanders Syndrome"Peterson is notorious for getting either -2 yds, 5 yds, or 30+ yds.If he gets 10 carries then 9 of them will be for 2 yards or less? Peterson hasn't adjusted to the NFL game yet? He dances around too much in the backfield? Have you even watched the Vikings, and specifically Peterson, in the preseason? Your observations are unfounded.As to Peterson running for 100 yds and 2 TD's? I guess its possible but not likely. Peterson will be a great back in the NFL, but he needs some work. I think 10 carries for 30 yards is more likely. 9 of those for 2 yards or less and one break out run for 15 yards. Peterson has not adjusted to the NFL game yet. He is still dancing around and getting caught in the backfield.CowboyFan said:The only thing "stone cold" will be the Vikings passing, uhm, attack(?)Falcons stack the box and lock down the run. People seriously underrate the Atl def. The biggest weakness is the secondary, but I can't see Tarvaris being able to exploit even that."stone cold" lol
Doesn't that kind of cover the spectrum of runs? A carry for a loss, an average pickup, and a big play? Consider me confused as to what this means. But I'll say this in closing, the kid didn't do much dancing in the preseason games. When he hits the hole his explosiveness is quite evident or at least it was during his brief action thus far with the Vikes. Maybe that changes come regular season, but I seriously doubt it. And the Vikes have an above average line to boot. So long as Childress comes to his senses and gives AD a majority of the work, we're looking at a special talent who's going to put up noteworthy fantasy numbers.OU#1 said:Peterson is notorious for getting either -2 yds, 5 yds, or 30+ yds. That's all he ever did at OU-and trust me I watched him enough to know. I don't see the "NFL game" changing this much.SayWhat? said:If he gets 10 carries then 9 of them will be for 2 yards or less? Peterson hasn't adjusted to the NFL game yet? He dances around too much in the backfield? Have you even watched the Vikings, and specifically Peterson, in the preseason? Your observations are unfounded.mdog1967 said:As to Peterson running for 100 yds and 2 TD's? I guess its possible but not likely. Peterson will be a great back in the NFL, but he needs some work. I think 10 carries for 30 yards is more likely. 9 of those for 2 yards or less and one break out run for 15 yards. Peterson has not adjusted to the NFL game yet. He is still dancing around and getting caught in the backfield.The only thing "stone cold" will be the Vikings passing, uhm, attack(?)Falcons stack the box and lock down the run. People seriously underrate the Atl def. The biggest weakness is the secondary, but I can't see Tarvaris being able to exploit even that."stone cold" lol
In ChicagoDid I really see someone say that Chester is the "star RB" and the Vikings are looking to protect him, specifically because of that, in the preason.Teams spend top 10 draft picks on RBs and let slightly better than average backs keep all the carries when?
That'll be sweet then.1st and 10, Peterson up the middle for -2 yards2nd and 12, Peterson off right tackle for 5 yards3rd and 7, Peterson off left tackle for 30 yards.Rinse and Repeat. Why would they ever give the ball to Chester?ADP will set the league on fire averaging 11 yards per carry!!!OU#1 said:Peterson is notorious for getting either -2 yds, 5 yds, or 30+ yds. That's all he ever did at OU-and trust me I watched him enough to know. I don't see the "NFL game" changing this much.
Sounds truly awful. I'll be staying away.RAIDERNATION said:AKA "Barry Sanders Syndrome"
Sorry for the AC stuff but I do think its a relavent question and might be useful to others with AD/Chester reading what other owners may be considering doing with AD in week 1 with so much still left unknown.That being said I don't feel any more certain about the situation than I did days ago except for one thing.The Vikings will win this game.Right now I have the minimum on number of touches for AD @ 13 but still thinking this over.These threads are always so good for about 30 posts or so. Why do they go off track and get silly after that? AC questions. Vick/Harrington arguments. Some dude who hasn't even watched a Vikings preseason game talking about AD "dancing" behind the line of scrimage. WTF???
After the first few weeks you'll completely understand what I'm saying!Doesn't that kind of cover the spectrum of runs? A carry for a loss, an average pickup, and a big play? Consider me confused as to what this means. But I'll say this in closing, the kid didn't do much dancing in the preseason games. When he hits the hole his explosiveness is quite evident or at least it was during his brief action thus far with the Vikes. Maybe that changes come regular season, but I seriously doubt it. And the Vikes have an above average line to boot. So long as Childress comes to his senses and gives AD a majority of the work, we're looking at a special talent who's going to put up noteworthy fantasy numbers.